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06-18-2015, 09:53 PM
#2701
re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?
News today from the My Advertising Pays Scam page on Facebook
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06-19-2015, 05:05 PM
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The Booths have come out of hiding. Mike Deese hasn't though.
Lynne Booth says, Mike Deese is the most honest person she has ever met. (Does that include Tony Booth I wonder?)
Lynne obviously doesn't get out that much.
Some funny stuff in this video.... One for washable Jones maybe?
Children & grandchildren running MAPS in the future, programmers booked up for years, 15 year plans etc. Lots of BS here, remember Banners Broker 10 year deal on rent a building near Manchester? Tony Booth's many many statements to qualify the potential of MAPs longevity qualify absolutely nothing.
Also are they drawing down expectations? Not everybody wants to be a mega-rich it turns out. Some folk just want to earn enough to buy coffee & a cake (expectations still much too high I fear)
Being really rich apparently (or giving the impression of being really rich more like) turns people into jerks, some truth in that I feel.
(as can be evidenced by the King of Maps himself Simon Stepsys)
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06-19-2015, 10:55 PM
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06-19-2015, 11:21 PM
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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06-20-2015, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by
Joe_Shmoe
The Booths have come out of hiding. Mike Deese hasn't though.
Lynne Booth says, Mike Deese is the most honest person she has ever met. (Does that include Tony Booth I wonder?)
Lynne obviously doesn't get out that much.
Children & grandchildren running MAPS in the future, programmers booked up for years, 15 year plans etc. Lots of BS here, remember Banners Broker 10 year deal on rent a building near Manchester? Tony Booth's many many statements to qualify the potential of MAPs longevity qualify absolutely nothing.
Also are they drawing down expectations? Not everybody wants to be a mega-rich it turns out. Some folk just want to earn enough to buy coffee & a cake (expectations still much too high I fear)
Being really rich apparently (or giving the impression of being really rich more like) turns people into jerks, some truth in that I feel.
(as can be evidenced by the King of Maps himself Simon Stepsys)
Do you think they might be reducing expectations in response to the recommedation from the ASA? Specifically that earnings claims must not be made if they cannot be substantiated?
Interesting that they are seemingly doing this though.
Usual old bollox from them about longevity. If Banners Broker is anything to go by, once they start talking about longevity, you know the scheme is doomed.
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06-20-2015, 11:25 AM
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Now we have someone else giving out top tips......pity he's still making claims about payments which need to be substantiated.....
Maps 520 June 15.jpg
The future of MAPs - spamming other FB pages and touting your scheme for others to join. Not touting for advertisers, I note.
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06-20-2015, 11:40 AM
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Here we have it straight from the horses mouth (or Simon Stepsys | "The Internet Millionaire") - Simon explains the importance of credit packs, and, omportantly, getting members in under you so that you can earn off their back, so to speak:-
Maps 521 June 15.jpg
If old Simon has 4,500 direct referrals, and he gets $5 every time they buy a credit pack, how much does that make him? But I'm curious, do they still get the commission even if someone in their downline buys a pack from their pretendy earnings (as opposed to whipping out the credit card to buy them)? If that is the case, then how can they be earning any real money? Isn't it just shuffling numbers round on the screen?
Oh, hang on, wait a minute.....
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06-20-2015, 11:50 AM
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re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?
Hello. This is interesting. Our boy Simon has suddenly set up a new company - Master Key Associates Ltd.
What will that be selling, I wonder?
SS MK June 15.jpg
Is a new scheme already beckoning?
(CREDIT TO the Tara Talks blog, which found this information first).
The address seems to be provided by this organisation: https://www.smallfirmsservices.com/
Small Firms Services Ltd? But Simon is an internet millionaire! He has a Bentley! He's a BUSINESSMAN! Why should he need help from a company that provides a mailbox, a mail forwarding service and help with registering your company? A company that, however excellent it may be in its own way, boasts of providing "a cheap virtual address service"? Isn't that for, well, small companies? Not "internet millionaires" for whom cost would be no object?
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06-20-2015, 09:38 PM
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re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
If old Simon has 4,500 direct referrals, and he gets $5 every time they buy a credit pack, how much does that make him? But I'm curious, do they still get the commission even if someone in their downline buys a pack from their pretendy earnings (as opposed to whipping out the credit card to buy them)? If that is the case, then how can they be earning any real money? Isn't it just shuffling numbers round on the screen?
Oh, hang on, wait a minute.....
A $5 commission is earned regardless of whether or not real money was used to purchase the credit pack or pretendy earnings. Basically everytime someone buys a credit pack MAP goes into debt $12. $5 to the sponsor and then $7 profit which the member can withdraw once the credit pack expires.
I purchased my last credit pack on the 9th March. According to the numbers in my back office this was the 1110671th credit pack purchased, so MAP owed $13,328,052 to its affiliates on this date. Doing some more quick math about 12,000 credit packs were being purchased daily at this time. God knows what the numbers are now.
Anyone out there seriously think MAP has sold $13,000,000 of advertising to real external businesses?
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06-21-2015, 01:23 AM
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WANTED!
Amazing Opportunity has arisen for a personal shopper!
Must be colour-blind, have terrible taste and no fashion sense>
NO WAGES available but can pay in Advertising Credits>
Must be fully conversant is BS.
Hurry! This position won't be available for long!
simons clothes.jpg
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06-21-2015, 02:40 AM
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re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?
Originally Posted by
nerd
A $5 commission is earned regardless of whether or not real money was used to purchase the credit pack or pretendy earnings. Basically everytime someone buys a credit pack MAP goes into debt $12. $5 to the sponsor and then $7 profit which the member can withdraw once the credit pack expires.
I purchased my last credit pack on the 9th March. According to the numbers in my back office this was the 1110671th credit pack purchased, so MAP owed $13,328,052 to its affiliates on this date. Doing some more quick math about 12,000 credit packs were being purchased daily at this time. God knows what the numbers are now.
Anyone out there seriously think MAP has sold $13,000,000 of advertising to real external businesses?
Goodness me, Nerd - how are they keeping going? If everyone suddenly wanted to withdraw, they'd be stuck, wouldn't they?
I suppose this explains why they push the "get to 1200 packs before withdrawing money" idea, along with referring more people. Good job the Germans promote the idea of starting off in the scheme with 100 packs in one hit as that will bring in approx $5,000 a time. But how many people can or want to do that? Although SS has metioned the idea, I don't think it's prevalent in the UK.
I doubt they have sold $1,300 of real external advertising business, let alone $13,000,000! The focus is NEVER on advertising. It is ALWAYS on recuritment. That's a real giveaway, don't you think?
I reckon it's not going to go on for much longer. Some weeks, yes, some monthe even, but years? No. Maybe that's why our boy Simon has set up his new company in anticipation? His current one was set up in 2013 when he was still in Banners Broker, but didn't that go down the tubes not long afterwards? Handy that it was all set up and ready for when he joined Empower and then MAPs, wasn't it?
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Reason: spelling!
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06-21-2015, 11:59 AM
#2712
re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?
Originally Posted by
nerd
Basically everytime someone buys a credit pack MAP goes into debt $12. $5 to the sponsor and then $7 profit which the member can withdraw once the credit pack expires.
Doing some more quick math about 12,000 credit packs were being purchased daily at this time. God knows what the numbers are now.
Thanks for this, quite a model.
12,000 *$12 = $144,000 MAPS goes in debt each day,
$144,000 *365 = $52,560,000 MAPS goes in debt each year assuming no compounding of packs.
Originally Posted by
nerd
Anyone out there seriously think MAP has sold $13,000,000 of advertising to real external businesses?
I seriously think Deese stands a better chance digging $50m out of his Maphole investing with http://www.realscam.com/f11/donald-a...snakeoil-2771/ in the next 2% per day FX trading opp than convincing many more suckers that 4 Corners and Adhitz are going to plug this Ponzi deficit.
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06-21-2015, 12:32 PM
#2713
re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?
Originally Posted by
nerd
I purchased my last credit pack on the 9th March. According to the numbers in my back office this was the 1110671th credit pack purchased.
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
I doubt they have sold $1,300 of real external advertising business, let alone $13,000,000! The focus is NEVER on advertising.
Using nerd's back office numbers, I can't see more than $3,332,013( $3 * 1,110,671) $1300 is a number is closer to what I believe. Without trying to digest MAPs goofy math, why bother paying to advertise when you could be paid
to advertise? What businessperson not high on meth is going to pay even $3.01 for a level of adverting where a MAPs member gets $7 profit and is comped an additional $3 to place ads on the site?
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
It is ALWAYS on recuritment. That's a real giveaway, don't you think?
Only for the past 2000 years.
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06-21-2015, 03:38 PM
#2714
re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
Goodness me, Nerd - how are they keeping going? If everyone suddenly wanted to withdraw, they'd be stuck, wouldn't they?
I suppose this explains why they push the "get to 1200 packs before withdrawing money" idea, along with referring more people. Good job the Germans promote the idea of starting off in the scheme with 100 packs in one hit as that will bring in approx $5,000 a time. But how many people can or want to do that? Although SS has metioned the idea, I don't think it's prevalent in the UK.
I doubt they have sold $1,300 of real external advertising business, let alone $13,000,000! The focus is NEVER on advertising. It is ALWAYS on recuritment. That's a real giveaway, don't you think?
I reckon it's not going to go on for much longer. Some weeks, yes, some monthe even, but years? No. Maybe that's why our boy Simon has set up his new company in anticipation? His current one was set up in 2013 when he was still in Banners Broker, but didn't that go down the tubes not long afterwards? Handy that it was all set up and ready for when he joined Empower and then MAPs, wasn't it?
Unfortunately this could be around for a while longer. If the numbers on the home page are accurate, there are approx 500 people joining per day. If only 10% buy credit packs and start with 20CPs, this is $50,000 of new money coming into MAP daily. We know that people are heavily encouraged to buy as many as possible to start with, I have heard of people starting with 600 packs, so the actual number is probably much higher than $50,000.
If we look at withdrawls, if you are diamond with no refferals, you are able to withdraw between $70 - $100 profit per day depending on how the packs are paying out, so this is enough to sustain 500 diamond members. Based on a few sources I doubt the amount of diamonds is over 200. Also at last check stepsys was withdrawing about $6000 per day, Frank Calamari Jr and the rest of the big ponzi pimps are probably on a $1000 per day. Its difficult to estimate but on the current information at hand I would say that after payouts there is plenty of change left over to go into Deese's or whoevers bank account.
Either the authorities shut it out down, Deese cuts and runs with the money, or it will be around for as long as there are gullible people that think clicking 10 ads a day will allow you to fire your boss.
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06-22-2015, 01:32 AM
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Oops! Look like there has been another glitch, and people have lost text ads.....the ladies with the laptops have had to get busy, I see!
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06-22-2015, 01:55 AM
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Umm, err,
a supposed multi million dollar advertising company that claims it's going to be bigger than Google and it only backs up its' clients' revenue source every "couple of weeks"
Yeah, s--u--u--u--r-e
Come on people, do you need to be hit over the head with a cluestick before you wake up you're dealing with a bunch of amateurs ???
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06-22-2015, 07:54 AM
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re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?
Originally Posted by
littleroundman
Umm, err,
a supposed multi million dollar advertising company that claims it's going to be bigger than Google and it only backs up its' clients' revenue source every "couple of weeks"
Yeah, s--u--u--u--r-e
Come on people, do you need to be hit over the head with a cluestick before you wake up you're dealing with a bunch of amateurs ???
Some people need the information written on a nail and driven in!
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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06-22-2015, 08:24 AM
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re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?
Calgary man arrested after Best Buy on 17th Ave robbed | Metro
SEEMS about two an a half years ago according to the newspaper there was an Inspector Steve Lorne working for the Calgary Police. I wonder if he is any relation? It is odd that above he was commenting on a robbery. Maybe fraud is different but if it is the same guy you would think he might do some background checking on MAPS?
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06-22-2015, 08:27 AM
#2719
re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?
Originally Posted by
littleroundman
Umm, err,
a supposed multi million dollar advertising company that claims it's going to be bigger than Google and it only backs up its' clients' revenue source every "couple of weeks"
Yeah, s--u--u--u--r-e
Come on people, do you need to be hit over the head with a cluestick before you wake up you're dealing with a bunch of amateurs ???
Does anyone have the Facebook group link for the alleged advertisers that are external to the scheme? You know, a Bentley representative asking the lady from Amazon what happened to the recent ad buy, only to have one of the jokers from Comcast chime in with the tip of the day?
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06-22-2015, 05:56 PM
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There's delusional and then there's Frank Calabro Jr
In the WORLD ???
C'mon Frankie, that's bulltish - even for a ponzi pimp.
Especially with an income claim like this on the same page
Frank Calabro Jrs' frankiecalabrojr page on Facebook
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06-23-2015, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by
littleroundman
There's delusional and then there's Frank Calabro Jr
In the WORLD ???
C'mon Frankie, that's bulltish - even for a ponzi pimp.
If he had no material possessions, which presumably includes a computer, how did he manage to join MAPs and click on his 10 ads a day?
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06-23-2015, 02:59 AM
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I haven't seen much about MAPs groups in the USA, perhaps because the American authorities take a much dimmer view of these things than the Europeans; however there is now a MAPs group in Florida.
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Doesn't seem to get much publicity though.....
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06-23-2015, 06:07 AM
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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06-23-2015, 07:23 AM
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06-23-2015, 09:45 AM
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