Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

[scamassassin007]

Meanwhile, over on the BB FB page, I've found these two little gems......
http://www.realscam.com/attachments/f8/7130-banners-broker-hyip-ponzi-scam-bb-fb-1st-march-14.jpg
http://www.realscam.com/attachments/f8/7131-banners-broker-hyip-ponzi-scam-bb-fb-1st-march-2.jpg

"Jump out of the blocks with V3"? Ye gods and little fishes (as my grandmother used to say)!


And Let The SPIN Begin!

[scamassassin007]

Banners Broker Topic On Cork 96fm Radio- 27/02/14 - PJ Coogan

RE: Liquidation Update


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-lz679PP1s&feature=youtu.be

*Thanks to Dan Dare for this piece!

[Joe_Shmoe]

I was just checking out Iain Sherriff's new followers as one is want to do now and again.:RpS_wink:

https://twitter.com/iain_sherriff/followers

I noticed that he has a lot of very new followers, mostly new accounts created by other Banners Broker affiliates.

No doubt they have been created because of the new rule decreed from above that affiliates must have a Twitter account with at least 10 followers.

So it strikes me that most of the followers initially that the BB affiliates will have are just other BB affiliates. :RpS_smile:
Really Chris, what use is that in reality (not BB "reality") to have BB affiliates spamming other BB affiliates with BB related crap?

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[scamassassin007]

I was just checking out Iain Sherriff's new followers as one is want to do now and again.:RpS_wink:

https://twitter.com/iain_sherriff/followers

I noticed that he has a lot of very new followers, mostly new accounts created by other Banners Broker affiliates.

No doubt they have been created because of the new rule decreed from above that affiliates must have a Twitter account with at least 10 followers.

So it strikes me that most of the followers initially that the BB affiliates will have are just other BB affiliates. :RpS_smile:
Really Chris, what use is that in reality (not BB "reality") to have BB affiliates spamming other BB affiliates with BB related crap?

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Some of the current BB sheep might be using other names to keep a low profile. Chris might also be trying to filter out the "pro-bb" people.

It is sad to know that NEW people are still being recruited in BB.

[Joe_Shmoe]

Some of the current BB sheep might be using other names to keep a low profile. Chris might also be trying to filter out the "pro-bb" people.

It is sad to know that NEW people are still being recruited in BB.

I don't think they are new Banners Broker victims. They just seem to be current victims who have only now created new Twitter accounts because of the new rule.

[Jerrygo]

Banners Broker Topic On Cork 96fm Radio- 27/02/14 - PJ Coogan

RE: Liquidation Update


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-lz679PP1s&feature=youtu.be

*Thanks to Dan Dare for this piece!

Oh very nice. And with a reporter who was actually at the hearing in IOM.
It's a Ponzi, short and sweet.
Hope you have posted this in other sites and forums where the sheeple can listen to it.

[scamassassin007]

Interesting Post On BB Ponzi Scam FB Page:

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1014084_215742131957778_1818531953_n.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/xagzhgy.jpg

[scamassassin007]

READ ALL ABOUT IT !!!

http://img5.kiosko.net/2014/02/27/ie/irish_examiner.750.jpg

http://en.kiosko.net/ie/2014-02-27/np/irish_examiner.html

@ Chris Smith... Need a TISSUE for the ISSUE?


***

Al Sills Responds On Twitter

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[scamassassin007]

Another Voice On Twitter...

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[littleroundman]

This is interesting.

Here we all were believing a judge granted the liquidation and appointed liquidators, yet here we have Ian Parker saying it was all planned by Smiffy.

http://imageshack.com/a/img542/5930/whn7.jpg

If Smiffy planned it, why was the court involved ??

Not lying AGAIN, are we Ian ??

[Joe_Shmoe]

Some scammers having a chat on Twitter
about their "New" happy clappy Stasi regulated forum.

http://www.realscam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7133&d=1393724524&thumb=1 (http://www.realscam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7133&d=1393724524)
http://www.realscam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7135&d=1393724613&thumb=1 (http://www.realscam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7135&d=1393724613)
http://www.realscam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7136&d=1393724643&thumb=1 (http://www.realscam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7136&d=1393724643)
http://www.realscam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7134&d=1393724588&thumb=1 (http://www.realscam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7134&d=1393724588)
http://www.realscam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7138&d=1393724701&thumb=1 (http://www.realscam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7138&d=1393724701)

Hey! Why not triple your income?

http://www.realscam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7139&d=1393724749&thumb=1 (http://www.realscam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7139&d=1393724749)

[scamassassin007]

This is interesting.

Here we all were believing a judge granted the liquidation and appointed liquidators, yet here we have Ian Parker saying it was all planned by Smiffy.

If Smiffy planned it, why was the court involved ??

Not lying AGAIN, are we Ian ??

The same with Al Sill''s from above: "Everyone Needs To Hear It FRom The Horses Mouth" Meaning Chris Smith.

We should all listen to Chris smith and not a law firm, not a judge, and not a reporter...

The sheep are not going to believe even if we hand them evidence on a silver platter... Pathetic...

[AshKen1]

More from Twitter - taken this morning, 2 March 2014. Some old familiar faces, plus one or two I didn't know before now.

[littleroundman]

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag116/Little_Roundman/scams/kevin_zps422f5683.jpg

Oh, I dunno, Kevin,

Just a guess, mind you, but perhaps it's because they don't want to have their name and picture associated with a collapsing HYIP ponzi scam.

[Julie Diligent]

We should all listen to Chris smith and not a law firm, not a judge, and not a reporter... The sheep are not going to believe even if we hand them evidence on a silver platter... Pathetic...

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The poor thing needs to stay out of the BB chat rooms.

[Della Cate]

I think the idea of the BB peeps having Twitter accounts and all pushing various schemes to each other is quite amusing.

Out old friend Nigel Albright has such an account, but his tweets are protected - you have to be a confirmed follower to see them. What a shame, I have never bothered with twitter, so am disappointed that I am unable to see the words of wisdom he comes out with. However, as he says on his FB page, he now has a Pinterest account ("because business demands it" - what business is that then, eh, Nigel?) where he has posted some pretty photographs of various scenes.

I think all the hard core BB-ers are now getting friends with each other and liking each other's postings and tweeting to each other and it's all rather SAD, don't you think? Especially as I wonder what they have to say that is of any relevance to anybody? (If I was nasty, I might say they are going to have to be friends with each other, because no-one else is going to want to be friends with them when BB eventually falls in the dust - specially not those people who lost money on BB.)

Now, I'm not up to date with these things, but how exactly does having a twitter account and putting photos on Pinterest help with online advertising and make money, exactly? Cos in his case, you cannot see his "tweets" and I couldn't see anything about BB on the pinterest page - unless I am missing it. And oddly enough, apart from liking World e-wallet, BB support and BB mobile on his FB page, old Nigel doesn't say a word about his involvement with BB. True, he has now got lots of new friends such as Mark Ghobril, the Parkers, Kevin Phoenix, Iain Sherriff et al, but about BB itself he is silent.

Not ashamed of it, are you, Nigel?

[JackTolerance]

Meanwhile, over on the BB FB page, I've found these two little gems......
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"Jump out of the blocks with V3"? Ye gods and little fishes (as my grandmother used to say)!

I saw that first one on Banners Broker Ponzi Scam Facebook page and did a Mask-style jaw drop. As for the other pic, I mean, what more can one add really?!

:crazy:

[scamassassin007]

I Got The Feeling That Think Simon Stepsys Like Us..

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/q71/s720x720/1621752_215870125278312_211514118_n.jpg

[Ken Roklin]

Now that the IoM BBI is being liquidated the creditors of BBI IoM should keep the ball rolling and start procedures to liquidate BBI Belize. Who operated BBI between the time IoM was shut down or dormant (wasn't being used according to Chris) and the the time BBI, Belize was incorporated in 2013? Which company took the revenue from the affiliates and in what country and bank was it deposited?

[Joe_Shmoe]

I Got The Feeling That Think Simon Stepsys Like Us..




The first indication from Simon Stepsys that all isn't rosy in the garden.

[Joe_Shmoe]

Oh dear James O'Driscoll ain't a happy Bunny.
Iain is there though to smooth things over with some more BS



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[scamassassin007]

Guess They Do Watch Us...

Now Iain Sherriff Ways In... .

https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/q71/s720x720/1655956_215890735276251_1601475687_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1891254_1385812261690484_567514552_n.jpg

* Credit & Thanks to Mark Thomas!


@Simon.. I guess you guys don't like us!
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@ Simon.. Bring it on Mary!

[scamassassin007]

Banners Broker's New Theme Song For BB V3


http://youtu.be/UvxPpEHA-SY


(!)

[Della Cate]

I Got The Feeling That Think Simon Stepsys Like Us..

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/q71/s720x720/1621752_215870125278312_211514118_n.jpg

Ah, I've been looking at SS's FB page. And it is very, very clear that he has seen the film "The Wolf of Wall Street", and that he has (1) taken it as a role model, and (2) thinks he is a junior "wolf". In your dreams, pal!

Simon, you are no Wolf of Wall Street. More....um...the Hamster of Hale? The Weasel of Wythenshaw?

[AshKen1]

Ah, I've been looking at SS's FB page. And it is very, very clear that he has seen the film "The Wolf of Wall Street", and that he has (1) taken it as a role model, and (2) thinks he is a junior "wolf". In your dreams, pal!

Simon, you are no Wolf of Wall Street. More....um...the Hamster of Hale? The Weasel of Wythenshaw?

I suppose one big difference is that the Wolf of Wall Street has more than one suit, shirt, belt, pair of shoes ;)

[scamassassin007]

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/q71/s720x720/1798103_215894608609197_497089120_n.jpg

ah, i've been looking at ss's fb page. And it is very, very clear that he has seen the film "the wolf of wall street", and that he has (1) taken it as a role model, and (2) thinks he is a junior "wolf". In your dreams, pal!

Simon, you are no wolf of wall street. More....um...the hamster of hale? The weasel of wythenshaw?

AMEN SISTER! lol

[scamassassin007]

I suppose one big difference is that the Wolf of Wall Street has more than one suit, shirt, belt, pair of shoes ;)

And some of the wolves and self proclaimed BB Millionaires are in "FORECLOSURE" ....

[Della Cate]

Ah yes, I see Iain Sherriff gets an honourable mention a few posts back.

This Iain Sherriff.....as per his FB page.

Gentleman of leisure? (Facepalm)

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How's it working out for you, Iain, now BB in the Isle of Man has been liquidated?

[scamassassin007]

Don't You Just Love Twitter?

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t34/1098490_764785203533978_715483333_n.jpg?oh=7ad62f2 40a9403c0673b7e0cb236c354&oe=5315752E

Hmmmmmm.....

[scamassassin007]

Good Questions Posted On The Banners Broker Ponzi Scam Page:

Regi Watts is reaching Out To Ian.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/q71/s720x720/1972517_215965895268735_1521394080_n.jpg



Regi Watts:

@ian There are some rumours going around the UK teams and have been for a long time now, maybe you know of these events and can offer any insight.

There has been talk that you never had contact with Chris Smith over your particular matter and to this day have not received any proof of what Chris Smith says you have done for both IC and affiliate situations.

It's public knowledge that Simon Stepsys has been caught cross pitching Empower Network twice now. The first time was at a UK Manchester meet where Duncan Wood reported him to David Hooker for pitching his own BB team members. The second happened at the UK event where he was told not to attend the next day (Sunday) after he was caught on the Saturday. As we can see he now proceeds to pitch Myadvertisingpays to BB people, whilst he is silent about supporting BB now he has made his money selling panels and packages.

Another cross pitching example which I have been told by a high up leader, is that of Keith Lambert and Sharon James receiving legal cease and desist letters from Banners Broker in 2012 for cross pitching Zeekwards to BB affiliates. They recently continued this trend along with Mark Ghobril, Jamie Waters, Duncan Wood, Martin Wild, Iain Sherriff, Lorezno Guarini. In pitching Imarketslive to BB affiliates.

One has to wonder, why has Chris never taken action against these people, despite the many examples and evidence ?
43 minutes ago ·



*Ian may not respond to in depth questions as he is in the midst of a legal battle. Let's hope he does tell all.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Banners-Broker-Ponzi-Scam/398614356881465

[scamassassin007]

IRISH EXAMINER MARCH 3rd, 2014

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By Conor Ryan
Investigative Correspondent



Banners creditors can register for part of $6m
Monday, March 03, 2014

One of the liquidators appointed to the controversial investment company Banners Broker International has said that creditors will get an opportunity to register their claim to the company’s frozen cash pile.

Last week Banners Brokers International Ltd was put into liquidation by an Isle of Man court after a judge ruled that in the interests of justice it had to be wound up.

At the time of the liquidation the court was told Banners Broker had $6m (€4.35m) sitting in a dormant Isle of Man bank account but it had no other known assets.

Its chief executive, Canadian Chris Smith, subsequently said the rest of its money had been moved to a newly incorporated company trading under the same name in Belize. It is now known how much had been moved, but he said the Isle of Man bank account had only represented a “rainy day” fund which it could not get off the island in the Irish Sea in time.

Paul Appleton, who was appointed a joint liquidator to the Isle of Man firm, said the process was still at an early stage and once established it will allow creditors to stake a claim.

“The joint provisional liquidators are in the process of drafting a letter, which will go to all known creditors informing them as to the next steps.

“Additionally, the forthcoming creditors meeting will be communicated and advertised in accordance with the statutory requirements,” he said in a statement.

At estimated 12,000 Irish people had money invested in Banners Broker after its sales pitch promised “guaranteed” profits. Separately the company has previously said there are up to 400,000 people around the world who bought some of its secretive website marketing panels that were supposed to be sublet to advertisers for a profit.

The Isle of Man court also heard that in addition to ordinary investors there was a substantial claim, said to be worth $3m, registered against BBIL by its former independent contractor in Britain Ian Driscoll.

Mr Driscoll won a breach of contract case against BBIL in the Isle of Man in early February and has said he pushed for the liquidation to secure the sums he was owned and the money people had invested.

He has said if there are assets that have been moved to the Belize company they will be pursued.

Some investors have said they succeeded in getting money they paid to BBIL by credit card refunded after reporting the transaction was based on fraud or the product was not delivered.

Mr Smith has tried to warn investors that anybody who makes a claim to the court in the Isle of Man will not be paid, although he has no say in the liquidation process which will be overseen by a court-appointed Committee of Investigation.

The Canadian said investors signed up to an internal disputes’ procedure that prohibits investors from seeking recourse through the courts.

People with money in Banners Broker accounts have been waiting many months to be able to get proper access to their funds after tight restrictions were imposed.

Banners Broker previously blamed payment problems on technical issues but have now admitted the liquidation and its lack of access to the $6m fund will impact on promised transfers.





Source: Banners creditors can register for part of $6m | Irish Examiner (http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/banners-creditors-can-register-for-part-of-6m-260630.html)

[scamassassin007]

More From Conor:



Banner Brothers caught up in web of intrigue
Monday, March 03, 2014

With just $6m apparently available for creditors and the many Irish investors seeking the return of their investment, the affairs of liquidated Banners Broker promise to be messy despite assurances from some at the top, writes Investigative Correspondent Conor Ryan


https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/q71/s720x720/1689188_216065868592071_415338737_n.jpg

https://helendipity.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/click-here-animated.gif?w=468 (http://www.irishexaminer.com/analysis/banner-brothers-caught-up-in-web-of-intrigue-260575.html) For the full story...

Source: Banner Brothers caught up in web of intrigue | Irish Examiner (http://www.irishexaminer.com/analysis/banner-brothers-caught-up-in-web-of-intrigue-260575.html)

[Jerrygo]

I must say the Irish press and media has been excellent in exposing and reporting on this ponzi. In stark contrast to UK Canadian etc press.
Perhaps if Ireland had a royal family, or Eastenders stars, then the Irish papers would also be filled with commentary on the colour of their new frocks.
But they seem to have enough empty space to fill, so frivolous stories of multimillion$ multinational frauds get a mention.

[Jerrygo]

I believe there was a piece on BB in the Sunday World also yesterday, with some mention of McCarthy. Unfortunately it does not seem to be in the online edition. Be nice if someone could provide a scan of it.

[scamassassin007]

"WATCH OUT"...

"The BB Sheep Are Going To Tell Their Sugar Daddy Chris Smith! "

(!)


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Source: Twitter


The sheep at Banners Broker seem to have no problem with blatant Threats.. lol

I think we are all shaking in our boots!

[laidback]

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Source: Twitter


The sheep at Banners Broker seem to have no problem with blatant Threats.. lol

I think we are all shaking in our boots!
yaw-w-w-wn!

[Beacon]

On the upcoming Caribbean "world tour"

It might be worth noting some of the early BB players who now are well up the pyramid.

http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-broker-hyip-ponzi-scam-897/index535.html#post62299

In relation to the Portugal conference. This is what i posted from an Aug 11 2012 FB page



A big thank-you to all of you that attended the conventions in Algarve, Portugal - Ayub Ali, Lorenzo Guarini, Roman and Vanessa, Dirk Dhondt and Rehuel Siemons, Rinaldo Mercedes, Roco Shouna, Christelle Mailli, Janine Wahlen and Hennes, Fraser Douther, Ana Onofre and Edney, Hana Shuster and Benny Rockah, Paul Mccarthy, Gianluigi Binori, Mateusz Guzda, Piotr Nastalek, Claudia Santos, Neale Pocock, Marlon Modeste and Ephraim Hespodales, and Ian Driscoll.

A special thank-you to Ruairi Kelly, Marlon Modeste, Eric Kock and Mark Ghobril for your testimonials. It means soo much to the BB team to hear such amazing stories. We very much appreciate every word that you all said.

Thank-you Claudia Santos and Manuella (from Portugal) for being such a big help planning the convention and helping out at the conventions! We appreciate all of your help!

Paul Mccarthy won Independent Contractor of the year – a big Congratulations to you! Paul, you have done such a phenomenal job! Keep up the great work!

Simon Stepsys won top affiliate of the year! Simon, you are doing an amazing job in such a short period of time that you have been with BB. Congratulations!

Christelle Mailli is our newest Independent Contractor and she will be looking after France! Christelle, we know that you will do a wonderful job in France and congratulations on your new position!

And now for our Millionaires. Congratulations to Simon Stepsys, Juliusjack Julius, Richard Weals, Amisa Ameen Patel, Immi Imran Nauth, Jaya Bodele, Benjamin Douglas, Derek Overington, Aarun Nasar A Shah, Dilipmain D Dabrai, Jose Lourenco, John Barrett, Jonathan Harris, Basel Sharaf, Elke Waszmann, and Ruairi Kelly. Wow, all have done an amazing job! We sincerely appreciate all of your hard work and dedication!

Looks like there will be a competition between Mr. Rinaldo Mercedes (Dominican Republic) and Mr. Marlon Modeste (Trinidad). Both claim that their country will be number 1 next year! Let’s bring on the competition guys!

It was really quite amazing to hear Independent Contractors, leaders and affiliates all over the world telling the audience how much Banners Broker has changed their lives and for the better. Let’s celebrate everyones hard work, dedication and success! Thank-you everyone for all of your support! Banners Broker is looking forward to working with you and helping you grow your business!

BB Mangement


Now one of them mentioned above has a downline Michael Amann in the Carribbean who claims to have got enough out of BB to pay for a trip to see his mother in Florida. His upline Marlon Modeste ( who joined Feb 2011) claims to have made over $380,000 from BB. maybe most of that was play money but he certainly made
www.bannersbroker.com/mgmodeste - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr_fG_bsxCE)
www.bannersbroker.com/mgmodeste - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr_fG_bsxCE&feature=player_detailpage)

note Marlon says it is "passive income" @1:40

www.bannersbroker.com/mgmodeste - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12zJ1pibEsc&feature=player_detailpage)

Where he says @1:20 that he joined Jan 2011
Ephraim Hospidalis also seems to be a Caribbean player
Ephraim take 3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH3meloKyiE&feature=player_detailpage)

You can assume all the above players made money and none that I know of other than Ian Driscoll and Edney have cast any disparagement remarks about BB.

[scamassassin007]

On the upcoming Caribbean "world tour"


note Marlon says it is "passive income" @1:40

www.bannersbroker.com/mgmodeste - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12zJ1pibEsc&feature=player_detailpage)

Where he says @1:20 that he joined Jan 2011
Ephraim Hospidalis also seems to be a Caribbean player
Ephraim take 3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH3meloKyiE&feature=player_detailpage)

You can assume all the above players made money and none that I know of other than Ian Driscoll and Edney have cast any disparagement remarks about BB.

AGREED!

This is one of many important points. ..Banners Broker now claiming "THEY ARE NOT PASSIVE" and that the affiliates "PURCHASED A PRODUCT" Not a money making venture.

Almost all of the Big BB leaders used this kind of language: "INVESTMENTS", compared to "PENSIONS", and yes "PASSIVE" . Almost all of their propaganda does not even mention a product.

They think they can change HISTORY!

Al Sills as all of the Scammer BB Leaders did this.
WATCH and LISTEN CAREFULLY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUplyHoxK5o
*Don't Worry Al, There Are Many Copies...

Also...

CLASSIC MONOPOLY VIDEO where Ian Parker Calls the process MONOPOLY!
:loser:
One of the few PRODUCT ??? videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuAuXImBZ6M

[Whip]

Almost all of the Big BB leaders used this kind of language: "INVESTMENTS"

I think it's hilarious the Irish Examiners first sentence says it.

[scamassassin007]

I think it's hilarious the Irish Examiners first sentence says it.

Yes, and that is how most of the Big BB scammers originally promoted it. Now they cry foul....

[hendyphilhendy]

Latest post on Banners Broker Facebook page states this

Retweeting may be a part of the weekly tasks and not having an account with these stipulations may mean that your panels will not move that week.


Now I am confused (doesn't take much, granted) but surely the panels are meant to be linked to a block of advertising space on the blind network? Surely that should be the only factor that dictates whether a panel moves or not? What influence should a twitter retweet have and how can it be linked to the advertising panel? Do affiliates really not question this guff!

[Poyol]

I believe there was a piece on BB in the Sunday World also yesterday, with some mention of McCarthy. Unfortunately it does not seem to be in the online edition. Be nice if someone could provide a scan of it.

Hi Jerry,

Twas me who was in talks with Alan Sherry of Sunday World on Friday to see if he could get something out for Sunday. Looks like he did.

I will post a scan when he sends me one!

Jason

[Joe_Shmoe]

Latest post on Banners Broker Facebook page states this

Retweeting may be a part of the weekly tasks and not having an account with these stipulations may mean that your panels will not move that week.


Now I am confused (doesn't take much, granted) but surely the panels are meant to be linked to a block of advertising space on the blind network? Surely that should be the only factor that dictates whether a panel moves or not? What influence should a twitter retweet have and how can it be linked to the advertising panel? Do affiliates really not question this guff!

Banners Broker must consider Tweeting to be advertising. :shocked:

Chris will probably tell the BB victims the Banners Broker make millions of dollars via the medium of the retweet. :RpS_smile:

[Della Cate]

Latest post on Banners Broker Facebook page states this

Retweeting may be a part of the weekly tasks and not having an account with these stipulations may mean that your panels will not move that week.


Now I am confused (doesn't take much, granted) but surely the panels are meant to be linked to a block of advertising space on the blind network? Surely that should be the only factor that dictates whether a panel moves or not? What influence should a twitter retweet have and how can it be linked to the advertising panel? Do affiliates really not question this guff!

Well, I agree, but I also think it is hilarious! Over on the BB Fb page, the affiliates are now all begging each other to follow them. "I follow you, you follow me". Talk about a captive audience.

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[scamassassin007]

Well, I agree, but I also think it is hilarious! Over on the BB Fb page, the affiliates are now all begging each other to follow them. "I follow you, you follow me". Talk about a captive audience.

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.
*Good find Della!

The One comment is hilarious,
So an advertising platform needs everyone to post on twitter.
"It makes business sense"?
What about the advertising from the GREAT ADVERTISING PLATFORM?????

IDIOTS!

BB TWITTER CLOWNS

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/10001549_216207008577957_958957678_n.jpg

[ribshaw]

Well, I agree, but I also think it is hilarious! Over on the BB Fb page, the affiliates are now all begging each other to follow them. "I follow you, you follow me". Talk about a captive audience.


Banners Broker a great way to build wealth until someone opens the can.

This guy sells a load of sardines for $800. The buyer of the sardines sells them to another guy for $1,200. He in turn sells them to someone else for $1,500. The person that bought the sardines for $1,500 calls the guy he bought them from and complains that the sardines smell to high heaven. The guy declares him stupid and tells him that these were not "eating" sardines but rather "buying and selling" sardines

#ChrisSmithPonzi Pimp #alansillschucklehead #nocashforBBninnies

A Sardine Story There's more to it than just buying and selling | News & Analysis content from WardsAuto (http://wardsauto.com/news-amp-analysis/sardine-story-theres-more-it-just-buying-and-selling)

[scamassassin007]

A Message on the BAnners BRoker Ponzi Scam Facebook Page:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/10007434_216208131911178_1220857432_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Banners-Broker-Ponzi-Scam/398614356881465

[laidback]

.
Good find Della!

The One comment is hilarious,
s.. So an advertising platform needs everyone to post on twitter.
"It makes business sense"?
What about the advertising from the GREAT ADVERTISING PLATFORM?????

IDIOTS!

BB TWITTER CLOWNS

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/10001549_216207008577957_958957678_n.jpg Dunno where you found this crowd, but they look wa-a-a-ay too intelligent for BB...!

[Beacon]

EXCLUSIVE: National clown shortage may be approaching, trade organizations fear - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/exclusive-national-clown-shortage-approaching-article-1.1616801)

Their organisation must not be aware of BB. They could fill the clown shortage and have loads of surplus.

[Mundorf]

"I follow you-pls follow me" sheep "business" strategy is just a view of how endless stupidity can fly.I am sure...and I really mean it...imagine V3 was meant to use "kiss my ass" new revolutionary way of advertising ,many followers would say "kiss my ass,I'll kiss yours"...this people are not sheep any more but rather insects - more it smells more they support

[Poyol]

http://i61.tinypic.com/htb9rd.png

There you go, guys.

[Beacon]

Well, I agree, but I also think it is hilarious! Over on the BB Fb page, the affiliates are now all begging each other to follow them. "I follow you, you follow me". Talk about a captive audience.

7154

The ironic thing is this is EXACTLY how a Ponzi works! they see the actual anatomy in operation and they still can't accept it! This is called "cognitive dissonance".Cognitive dissonance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance) I mean take the above comment by Suzanne Hughes. She is aware of her downline who joined after her since she specifically refers to them. she is aware they put money into BB and she openly points to the fact that they cant use twitter and that because of that they will not be able to get any money from BB. Given that a Ponzi = a scheme where later joiners are paying for the earlier joiners they basically admit that BB is a ponzi by their own admission. At the same time they refuse to accept it is a Ponzi. :)

[Julie Diligent]

http://i61.tinypic.com/htb9rd.png

There you go, guys.

Bravo, Jason! I trust you won't be needing these guys any time soon: Samaritans saved my life | Samaritans (http://www.samaritans.org/) ;-)

Let's hope others won't, either.

[Poyol]

Bravo, Jason! I trust you won't be needing these guys any time soon: Samaritans saved my life | Samaritans (http://www.samaritans.org/) ;-)

Let's hope others won't, either.

Misprint on how much was invested they put an extra 0 in there accidentally!
I definitely won't be needing the Samaritans - though if anyone reading this forum does need to reach out for help, or an ear/should, contact any of the admins here; you won't be turned away.

Jason

[scamassassin007]

http://i61.tinypic.com/htb9rd.png

There you go, guys.

GOOD JOB JASON!

Take That you Banners Broker Ponzi Nazi's!

[Ken Roklin]

Now that Driscoll has started the liquidation of BBI, IoM, are the authorities going to check on his involvement in scamming thousands and thousands of affiliates by recruiting them? By law, he is as guilty as Chris Smith of promoting the Ponzi and now stands to receive even more money, after having been paid half a million, money rightly belonging to the affiliates who never received one cent.

Forcing BBI into liquidation may have sounded like a good idea at the time, but according to the court, BBI was a Ponzi and he played a huge part in the operations of the scam in Ireland. Should he now profit even more from this scam or be investigated and prosecuted for his part?

[Beacon]

Now that Driscoll has started the liquidation of BBI, IoM, are the authorities going to check on his involvement in scamming thousands and thousands of affiliates by recruiting them?


Not in this case. this case is about liquidators paying off creditors. Of course Driscoll and Smith would have to prove he is a legitimate creditor and produce a paper trail showing just how much he gave to BB and where he got that money and all that may have legal implications for criminality. But as for the civil case I assume the liquidators are responsible people and will determine who the valid creditors are.



By law, he is as guilty as Chris Smith of promoting the Ponzi


By which law? This case isn't about the criminal guilt of Chris Smith either. It is about the monies held by a legal entity BBI IoM and to whom this money is owed. All those "he is guilty" elements might well come in to the evidence but they are separate criminal cases for some other time. The direct issue here is who gets the $6million. I'm assuming costs will be of the order of tens of thousands and the other parties will have to pay their own costs. That leaves about 5.9 million to divide up.



and now stands to receive even more money, after having been paid half a million, money rightly belonging to the affiliates who never received one cent.


Who paid Driscoll a half million of BBI money? He may have a judgement registered but against whom?



Forcing BBI into liquidation may have sounded like a good idea at the time, but according to the court, BBI was a Ponzi and he played a huge part in the operations of the scam in Ireland. Should he now profit even more from this scam or be investigated and prosecuted for his part?

The court hasn't stated it is a ponzi even if it is. Nor does that have direct bearing on the issue other than ( which may well have direct bearing in this case) senior people involved in BB would be deemed not to be a creditor either by court decision or by law or maybe by the liquidator who may well be empowered to decide that certain people are not creditors.

There is a standard procedure after the liquidator takes their fee
Preferential Creditors (http://www.frielstafford.ie/useful-articles/preferential-creditors.161.html)

e.g.


1. All Corporation Tax, Capital Gains Tax and Income Tax assessed on the company up until 5 April prior to the relevant date, together with interest. The Revenue Commissioners will select the largest outstanding year for each Tax.

2. Income Tax Deductions on payments for sub-contractors in the 12 months before the relevant date.

3. VAT for the six complete taxable periods ending within the 12 months before the relevant date together with interest.

4. PAYE for the period of 12 months before the relevant date together with interest.

5. PRSI for the period of 12 months before the relevant date.

6. Wages and salaries for the employees in the four months before the relevant date, subject to a maximum of €3,174.

7. All accrued holiday pay - no money or time limit.

8. All compensation payable to an employee on termination of employment where the statutory minimum notice of termination has not been given.

9. Statutory Redundancy lump-sums.

10. Compensation awarded by the Employment Appeals Tribunal in respect of unfair dismissals.

11. Sick pay to an employee pursuant to any sick pay schemes.

12. Company contributions and contributions deducted from employees in respect of any pension schemes.

13. Damages and costs due to an employee as a result of an accident to the extent that it is not covered by insurance.

14. Subject to limitations, money advanced to pay wages, salaries, holiday pay, sick pay or pension contributions by a bank or a third party.

15. Local rates struck within 12 months before the relevant date. (but not water rates).

Now given
BBI didnt have any offices , employees, wages, social insurance, redundancy, sick pay, etc. all the money is available.
If they dont have any tax liability ( and they would if they were an actual business) then Chris Raj Driscoll and the rest of the lads cant really claim to have any rights to any of it. Maybe BBI did have a legally binding employment contract with Driscoll, I dont know. He would have to produce this contract and if he did he would be owed whatever BBI agreed to pay him. But if he had a contract and was employed as a manager then he was responsible for the accounts and the damage he is open to would probably far outstrip any money owed to him. He would also have to openly admit all the dealings he had with BBI. And he would have to supply a paper trail. I haven't seen the paper he supplied for this supposed other judgement. Where is it?

[Ken Roklin]

I was just raising some questions. The court didn't say it was a Ponzi but the Examiner certainly made reference to BBI being a Ponzi. I would like to believe with the press BBI has made in Ireland hat the authorities in Ireland would want to have a serious look at the business Driscoll operated and why there are 12,000 Irish affiliates wanting a piece of the $6 mil. Driscoll may well win in the liquidation proceedings but if the authorities actually do investigate Driscolls operation and discover he promoted the Ponzi he may well have to give it all back and then some. (the half a million paid to Driscoll was taken from Chris's webinar where he showed what he was paid, whether that is true or not only those two know).

[Buster Gutt]

I assume the liquidators are responsible people and will determine who the valid creditors are....................... I'm assuming costs will be of the order of tens of thousands and the other parties will have to pay their own costs. That leaves about 5.9 million to divide up.

Oh Boy........ that is just so cutely naive! I assume that you've never been involved in a Company liquidation? The first job of the Liquidators / Receivers / Lawful Thieves is to establish how much cash is available, then they decide how big their fee can be...... i.e. "How much can we get away with?"....... only when they have milked the cow to the point where the poor old dear is about to drop from exhaustion, will they think "Should we leave a little bit for the creditors?"........... then they'll think "Not unless we really have to"...... and only then will the creditors receive around a penny in the pound............. if they are extremely lucky!

And you think BB are bad?? lol

[dutyman]

Just joined this forum as a peeved BB creditor....I am glad my investment only runs to just over a hundred dollars

People, I am not a fan of Driscoll, Smith or anyone at BB. However, we should look at this issue and put things in perspective.
1. The case between BBI and Driscoll is a civil matter. Neither side has to reveal anything to the public. Anything that is disclosed into the public domain is only to rubbish the other side and can at best be seen as selective. No material held can be coerced into the Public domain.
2. The liquidation is not a case. It is a civil matter concerning the recovery of Driscoll's money as a result of him winning the civil case against BB along with anyone else who registers as a creditor. A liquidator has been appointed and now controls the cash in the IOM....end of story. Neither side has to reveal anything to the public. No material held can be coerced into the Public domain.
3. No authority other than possibly the Canadians would take on such a prosecution case as the possibility of gaining the evidence and extraditing the suspects would be ridiculously prohibitive. Driscoll cannot be touched without vast amounts of material from BB and that cannot be obtained unless BB are being criminally investigated and without a Commission Rogatoire or Letter of Request from the prosecuting authority, the material will not be obtained for a prosecution outside of Canada. I didn't mention Belize?......if you think they would want to prosecute then you really are naive...don't kid yourself...it ain't happening. And if the material that the Canadians would require is in Belize or places unknown, then any prosecution really is not a starter.
4. As such, Driscoll will receive what the civil court appointed liquidator deems to be his from the assets that the liquidator now controls. He will not be prosecuted unless there is an authority that takes another view......and no authority steps outside of its legal jurisdiction unless it really has to.....oh, and obtaining the evidence would be impossible (see above). Also, his defence would be that he saw this as a real business and the payments to affiliates stopped after he was relieved of duties.....the evidence would show that payments slowed or stopped a year ago and there would be no admissible evidence obtainable to show that anything was amiss before that.
5. Other creditors that can prove a claim with the liquidators will also receive a share of the assets held. If creditors lodge claims for $30 million and there is $3 million in assets, every creditor will receive 10 cents for every dollar of claim. That comes after the liquidators fees and Driscoll's cut (as he will rate higher on the scale due to his status with the liquidator's preferential list)

While it is clear that there is some roguish behaviour here, the reality is none of us know the full story as we do not have the full facts, only our own gut feelings. And as this is a civil matter, Driscoll only has to show papers to the his solicitors who then approach the civil court to raise a case against BB for non payment. This was done during the case that Driscoll brought against BB, hence the judgement for Driscoll and against BB. The liquidation was as a result of BB not paying Driscoll and Driscoll approaching the civil court for recovery of the sum that he proved to them that he was owed.

Interestingly, BB's lack of evidence of anything has probably worked against them in that they didn't or couldn't provide any material to refute Driscoll's claim.

[EagleOne]

dutyman: Welcome to RS. Great post, and I look forward to many more from you.

I agree this action in IoM is not what most people think it is and the demise of BB, but it could trigger an investigation by the authorities if they aren't already investigating them. It does not mean that those who were conned into BB by Ian Driscoll cannot sue him in civil court, which I hope they do after he gets his money. At least they know there is money to be awarded in their judgment against him.

Sadly this saga is far from over.

[dutyman]

.........oh and before anyone asks, I decided to only recruit once I saw some return on my money. I have therefore never recruited (you work it out!).

I really cannot see any authority beginning a criminal prosecution against any element of BB for the reasons I have already stated.

Sue Driscoll...........? If someone feels that they have a case and is prepared to go after him, fair enough. But they would need evidence that the problems with BB were evident and I would suggest, acted upon prior to his demise within BB world. Simply stating that he was 'responsible' will not get past first base. A prospective civil case would have to prove that BB was faulty prior to the date he left, that he knew this and that would be a difficult process involving proof of payment default and proof that Driscoll was responsible for those defaults.

If the fault is with BB, then Driscoll cannot be held liable as he was "independent". If he misrepresented, then evidence of that misrepresentation is needed. One word against another would not suffice as Driscoll would simply say that he sold product in good faith and that problems only manifested themselves after he was dismissed.

Driscoll clearly had enough evidence in the form of documents to persuade the court to rule in his favour. I doubt that any documents from BB would persuade any court to rule in anyone else's favour against Driscoll as BB is already devalued as a source of evidence. BB would not provide evidence saying that their product is in default.

Therefore, all Driscoll would have to do is state that BB material is devalued and biased against him in view of the judgement that he has obtained. No court would accept BB's evidence in a civil matter on that basis when you take into account how long ago Driscoll left.

In my honest opinion.........

[Ken Roklin]

.........oh and before anyone asks, I decided to only recruit once I saw some return on my money. I have therefore never recruited (you work it out!).

I really cannot see any authority beginning a criminal prosecution against any element of BB for the reasons I have already stated.

Sue Driscoll...........? If someone feels that they have a case and is prepared to go after him, fair enough. But they would need evidence that the problems with BB were evident and I would suggest, acted upon prior to his demise within BB world. Simply stating that he was 'responsible' will not get past first base. A prospective civil case would have to prove that BB was faulty prior to the date he left, that he knew this and that would be a difficult process involving proof of payment default and proof that Driscoll was responsible for those defaults.

If the fault is with BB, then Driscoll cannot be held liable as he was "independent". If he misrepresented, then evidence of that misrepresentation is needed. One word against another would not suffice as Driscoll would simply say that he sold product in good faith and that problems only manifested themselves after he was dismissed.

Driscoll clearly had enough evidence in the form of documents to persuade the court to rule in his favour. I doubt that any documents from BB would persuade any court to rule in anyone else's favour against Driscoll as BB is already devalued as a source of evidence. BB would not provide evidence saying that their product is in default.

Therefore, all Driscoll would have to do is state that BB material is devalued and biased against him in view of the judgement that he has obtained. No court would accept BB's evidence in a civil matter on that basis when you take into account how long ago Driscoll left.

In my honest opinion.........
I think you believe that BBI actually had a product. Anyone in Driscolls position would know within a very short time that there was no product and the affiliates were paid from recruiting new members. It doesn't matter how and what contract Driscoll and BBI had, he was promoting a Ponzi and that is a crime. There is enough evidence and paperwork out there to show that what BBI sold was panels (not a product) and not actual advertising that these panels were to represent.

[dutyman]

I am not saying that a product existed....I believed at the time that there was, but we all make mistakes. But what is important in any case is that while we can all jump up and down and call foul, without evidence that is acceptable in a court of law, that there was no product at that time, there is no case. Trying to set one wrong (BB) against another (Driscoll) and drawing conclusions from assumptions (as the court would see it) will not win a case. If there is true documentary evidence that is not devalued, then you can draw a conclusion but simply stating that anyone in Driscoll's position would know quite quickly is simply not evidence. It is merely assumption. Sorry to sound harsh but we must look realistically at this and not simply hope that because something is wrong, a court will be able to rule favourably on the matter.
BB stated that they sold impressions and panels......so what? They stated (whether true or not) that the advertising was on the blind network. Where would a plaintiff's evidence come from to say that this wasn't the case? BB will not say this.was false as it's their 'product'. Driscoll will not say this was the case prior to his removal as he would be implicated in a crime. So where is the documentary evidence? It's not that I believe that there is or ever was product. But it has to be proven that there was no product and I believe that the evidence realistically cannot be obtained. It is about admissible evidence........not gut feeling and assumption. As a plaintiff, you have to prove a case, Driscoll would not have to prove anything. You would need more than internet gossip......because for every positive assumption, a defendant would provide a negative one.

Quite simply civil cases of this ilk and potential scale do not succeed without proof at almost the criminal standard (beyond reasonable doubt) rather than balance of probability.......and please feel free to research the two standards of proof.

Sorry to sound harsh and I would dearly love to see someone succeed (please give me the evidence and I am happy to go to the authorities) but the reality is that it is unlikely that any case would succeed without such evidence.

[Char]

^^^^Which is why we need realscam and the court of public opinion to expose these serial scammers. Maybe now the mission of folks on here will be better understood.

[scamassassin007]

^^^^Which is why we need realscam and the court of public opinion to expose these serial scammers. Maybe now the mission of folks on here will be better understood.

Agreed. This is not a court and I don't think most here are Lawyers. Most Banners Broker MEmbers do not have a FREE voice in the BB forums. They are shunned and called names. They have their accounts frozen, blocked from forums with heavy hand of the Ponzi Nazis.

This is our chance to be heard. I will save my legal tactics to Perry Mason.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zlG-i2J6qI

[Whip]

There is no 'beyond a reasonable doubt' with civil cases in the US. That's only for criminal. That's why Ron Goldman was successful against OJ in his civil case.

[EagleOne]

dutyman: There is plenty of proof about BB that could be used against Ian Driscoll in a civil lawsuit. Ian can claim he didn't know it was a Ponzi, but due to his position in BB it won't fly. This position requires him to go way beyond just believing the story put out by BB as to what it does. Heck all the videos and statements by BB and Ian himself would prove your case; and especially this statement of his and I quote: "Only I know the whole story and since he has tried to blame me for all this I will be telling people the truth about Smith. He told everyone here that this $6.6 million was "Rainy Day " money $6.6 million so why has he NOT paid this money he owes to the affiliates for well over a year now and is hoping to get rid of all this debt in BB V3 ????? I will disclose more very damning information soon in good time "

I would just sit back and wait for him to post all his damning information then file the suit. When you are an "insider" you have to do true due diligence, which we all know he didn't do, or if he did he turned a blind eye to it. Besides there is a word that I love when it comes to civil lawsuits and it the word "Discovery." Amazing what all this word entails in a lawsuit. In short you get to give Ian an anal exam without jelly and with a cactus.

[littleroundman]

One would certainly hope the UKs' Financial Conduct Authority and Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs (the UK equivalent of the IRS) have at least one representative each in attendance should this ever make it to court.

[searcher]

Well, looks like Scammer Chris Smith is continuing on regardless:

Webinar schedule during blackout:

Conference Call Schedule

Highlights of BBv3 ** ( SOON TO BE BBV4, 5 6 ETC ETC ETC)
Screenshots and a tour of the new Banners Broker platform
Friday, March 7 - 11:00am EST

Understanding the Migration ** ( COUGH COUGH - WE SCAMMED EVERYONE IN V2.9 HAHAHA)
Reviewing what inventory will be moved to BBv3 and what it mean
Monday, March 10 - 11:00am EST

Using Social Media in the Advertising Channel ** (BB CANNOT WORK ON IT OWN, FOLKS HAVE TO USE SOCIAL MEDIA!)
How to use social platforms like Twitter, Facebook, Youtube and Craigslist to earn traffic
Tuesday, March 11 - 11:00am EST

Using Organic Traffic in the Advertising Channel ** (LAUGHABLE, ALL LIES)
How to use the Choice Network to earn traffic and promote your own products, services and apps
Wednesday, March 12 - 11:00am EST

All Things Banners Mobile ** (ALL THINGS BANNERS BROKER MOBILE SCAM)
The advantages of being part of Mobile Advertising and discussion on the Banners Mobile system.
Thursday, March 13 - 11:00am EST

Leaders Speak ** (SCAMMERS SPEAK)
A chance for some of the leaders who provided feedback to help shape BBv3 to speak and share their thoughts on the new system and the future
Friday, March 14 - 11:00am EST

BB Party and Tesla draw ** (CHRIS & LEAD SCAMMERS CELEBRATE THEIVING AGAIN)
A celebration of Banners Broker and the launch of BBv3 PLUS the draw for the Tesla!
Monday, March 17 - 11:00am EST

[Whip]

I thought they bought traffic and that's what the selling of 'traffic packs' was all about. hmmmmmmmmmm

[littleroundman]

A celebration of Banners Broker and the launch of BBv3 PLUS the draw for the Tesla!
Monday, March 17 - 11:00am EST

March 17 - that's St Patricks' Day.

It's a pity St Patrick didn't banish all the snakes from Canada as well as Ireland.

[Mundorf]

There is no need to have all the proofs of a crime to contact police or to help police decide to act.In Germany some big fishes went in jail after some reporters wrote some bad things they did and this things were not proofs as such but the same staff we have here on real scam - the facts ,the signs showing that a logic of something (business) is not spreading in appropriate ways and is not causing standard effects (regular payments,bankruptcy,grow,clear company policy etc.) - reasonable suspicion, what is quite enough in every country of law,to bring police in action.Police then does not decide is it a crime or not but only if the damage the eventual crime might produce is possibly so high to defend the costs of investigation- of course,with homicide is not the case. The only important moment is to draw attention of the authorities and let them reckon the measure of possible cost

[Whip]

March 17 - that's St Patricks' Day.

It's a pity St Patrick didn't banish all the snakes from Canada as well as Ireland.

Besides........I already won the Tesla (figurine)

http://cdn.howtogobroke.com/item_imgs/tesla_figurine.jpg

[scamassassin007]

Besides........I already won the Tesla (figurine)

http://cdn.howtogobroke.com/item_imgs/tesla_figurine.jpg

@ Whip... Here Ya Go...

http://www.torquenews.com/sites/default/files/image-1075/tesla-model-s-burns.jpg

[Beacon]

Oh Boy........ that is just so cutely naive! I assume that you've never been involved in a Company liquidation? The first job of the Liquidators / Receivers / Lawful Thieves is to establish how much cash is available,


Well that it seems has been done. There is $6 million and none of that is owed in holiday pay wages rent etc. because BBI didn't do any business and had no employess AFAIK.



then they decide how big their fee can be...... i.e. "How much can we get away with?"....... only when they have milked the cow to the point where the poor old dear is about to drop from exhaustion, will they think "Should we leave a little bit for the creditors?"

I disagree
There is absolutely no way a court would deem it valid for a liquidator who has $6 million to claim fees of say $5.5 million if there is actually no work for them to do other than compile a list of say 5,000 creditors from emails and snail mails they have been sent.



........... then they'll think "Not unless we really have to"...... and only then will the creditors receive around a penny in the pound............. if they are extremely lucky!


The liquidators have to act responsibly. Yes they will take a fee but I don't see how this fee would be over 100,000. They have had scant preparation time and I don't even know if they had a legal council the fees for which would amount to maybe several thousand for the one appearance they have had. They don't have to pay the legal costs of anyone else. They don't have any other bills. The driscoll case (AFAIK he wasnt represented in the IoM case) is against BB Uk Limited which is a different legal entity. Even if he has a case against BBI IoM, as I already stated I have seen nothing yet showing he either represented BBI IoM as a Director or employee AFAIK he certainly was not a director. We have seem no contract between Driscoll and BBI IoM so there is nothing for thenm to pay that way. That leaves about $5.9 million to pay to creditors.




And you think BB are bad?? lol

This is different to most liquidations voluntary or otherwise. In almost all liquidations there is a list of secured creditors who are owed money e.g the revenue;the banks; laon institutions; state agencies and county councils; rent owed on lease etc. In this case since BBI wasnt an actual business with real employees and a real office they owe NO BILLS. so ALL the money is available with the exception of the liquidator fees. In most cases more is owed to other people than there is available. In this case most of the money is still available when it comes to the creditors.

[Beacon]

I was just raising some questions. The court didn't say it was a Ponzi but the Examiner certainly made reference to BBI being a Ponzi. I would like to believe with the press BBI has made in Ireland hat the authorities in Ireland would want to have a serious look at the business Driscoll operated and why there are 12,000 Irish affiliates wanting a piece of the $6 mil. Driscoll may well win in the liquidation proceedings but if the authorities actually do investigate Driscolls operation and discover he promoted the Ponzi he may well have to give it all back and then some. (the half a million paid to Driscoll was taken from Chris's webinar where he showed what he was paid, whether that is true or not only those two know).

Can someone clarify WHAT half million was decided upon in WHAT judgement. I haven't seen any primary source reference to that judgement.

[Beacon]

Just joined this forum as a peeved BB creditor....I am glad my investment only runs to just over a hundred dollars

People, I am not a fan of Driscoll, Smith or anyone at BB. However, we should look at this issue and put things in perspective.
1. The case between BBI and Driscoll is a civil matter. Neither side has to reveal anything to the public. Anything that is disclosed into the public domain is only to rubbish the other side and can at best be seen as selective. No material held can be coerced into the Public domain.


Anything that was mentioned in court can be reprinted in the public domain without prejudice as anything said in court is public domain and immune from prosecution.
But the thing is I cant find this so called judgement that Driscoll apparently won against BBI IoM
Isle of Man Judgments Online (http://www.judgments.im/Content/home.mth)
So where is it?

I am aware Ken refers to a judgement in February but WHERE is this judgement ?



2. The liquidation is not a case. It is a civil matter concerning the recovery of Driscoll's money as a result of him winning the civil case against BB along with anyone else who registers as a creditor. A liquidator has been appointed and now controls the cash in the IOM....end of story. Neither side has to reveal anything to the public. No material held can be coerced into the Public domain.


The court has to reconvene and a committee is appointed to oversee liquidators AFAIK.


3. No authority other than possibly the Canadians would take on such a prosecution case as the possibility of gaining the evidence and extraditing the suspects would be ridiculously prohibitive. Driscoll cannot be touched without vast amounts of material from BB and that cannot be obtained unless BB are being criminally investigated and without a Commission Rogatoire or Letter of Request from the prosecuting authority, the material will not be obtained for a prosecution outside of Canada.


AS I stated I would think criminal proceedings are separate ( but not impossible). the thinkg is wher is this "contract" between BBI and Driscoll ( which would have to be submitted as evidence) or the judgement that people claim Driscoll to have won?


I didn't mention Belize?......if you think they would want to prosecute then you really are naive...don't kid yourself...it ain't happening. And if the material that the Canadians would require is in Belize or places unknown, then any prosecution really is not a starter.


Again that would be a seperate issue of BB Canada for money laundering or similar.



4. As such, Driscoll will receive what the civil court appointed liquidator deems to be his from the assets that the liquidator now controls. He will not be prosecuted unless there is an authority that takes another view......and no authority steps outside of its legal jurisdiction unless it really has to.....oh, and obtaining the evidence would be impossible (see above).


Yes but WHERE is the judgement Driscoll won against BB IoM and on what evidence is it based?


Also, his defence would be that he saw this as a real business and the payments to affiliates stopped after he was relieved of duties.....the evidence would show that payments slowed or stopped a year ago and there would be no admissible evidence obtainable to show that anything was amiss before that.


I would have to look at the dates but evidence could be produced that people were asked in dublin and elsewhere about FBI files on allied Wallet, about the history of Raj with a former Ponzi, about due dilligence ( If driscoll was a Director he has a duty to go through standard checks; about his knowledge of the experience training and background of those he knew in BBI; of what he asked them about the company when he was employed by them etc. Furthermore since that time other questions could be asked about Driscoll's involvement in similar schemes. If so Driscoll could NOT plead ignorance. I mean if he is now involved in similar ponzi's when he took a case against one just about to go bust then he has no credibility should he claim he didnt know then about it being dodgy if he is doing the same thing with another similar scheme now.


5. Other creditors that can prove a claim with the liquidators will also receive a share of the assets held. If creditors lodge claims for $30 million and there is $3 million in assets, every creditor will receive 10 cents for every dollar of claim. That comes after the liquidators fees and Driscoll's cut (as he will rate higher on the scale due to his status with the liquidator's preferential list)


I disagree. If the liquidator found Driscoll deserved nothing or nest to nothing then he wont come into it. If creditors claim they are owed $30 because of their ewallet then that also wont come into it. The liquidators should base claims on what people paid in and on reciepts bank statements supporting those payments. Im assuming they will get only hundreds or maybe thousands of claimants for an average of hundreds or thousands each. This will at most run into millions. In fact it may well be that VALID ( by which I mean supported by bank statemnnts how much they paid in) claims dont even cone to $6million because
1. BB sheep still think it is a business
2. BB sheep think they will lose their FAKE millions in virtual ewallet money if they claim back the $100 they "invested"
3. Many affiliates dont know about the IoM case.


While it is clear that there is some roguish behaviour here, the reality is none of us know the full story as we do not have the full facts,


I agree


only our own gut feelings.


I disagree. We have expert opinion and we have some hard evidence from courts, company records etc.


And as this is a civil matter, Driscoll only has to show papers to the his solicitors who then approach the civil court to raise a case against BB for non payment. This was done during the case that Driscoll brought against BB, hence the judgement for Driscoll and against BB.


WHAT judgement. Where is it registered?
It seems to me if it is true, Driscoll took a case and BB didnt show and he got awarded a judgement. If so this was wrong. It would then be for the creditors to appeal it. As such the liquidator is the one who represents them and may have the standing to approach the court and make their case. Fiurhtermore if Driscoll actually produces a contract for a million for his services then what tax did he pay on those services?


The liquidation was as a result of BB not paying Driscoll and Driscoll approaching the civil court for recovery of the sum that he proved to them that he was owed.


Really? AFAIK the liquidation was as a result of people paying money to BB and not getting anything back.

Going by
Fears for investors as suspected pyramid scheme wound up | Irish Examiner (http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/fears-for-investors-as-suspected-pyramid-scheme-wound-up-260228.html)


He appointed joint liquidators. One, from local firm Mann Benham, was put forward by Targus Investments. Targus had previously provided BBIL’s Canadian principal, Chris Smith, with nominee services for BBIL in the Isle of Man.

The second appointee was London-based Paul Appleton, of David Rubin and Partners LLP.
...
Under Isle of Man law, a committee of inspection will oversee the work of the liquidators. It is expected to take up to a month to establish the extent of BBIL’s remaining assets and debts.



Targus have been discussed here as a "Shelf company" . I dont think they represent Chris Smith and may have some fees for fooice etc but again I don't think this will be big maybe in the thousands. I don't think they represent Driscoll.

Appleton is the one who will come back to the court and divvy up the $6million. He is the $6million man. His fees shouldn't be more than 50k and maybe only 10k. So on what basis is Appleton going to pay Driscoll over a million?



Interestingly, BB's lack of evidence of anything has probably worked against them in that they didn't or couldn't provide any material to refute Driscoll's claim.

But what was his claim and where did he make it?

[Beacon]

March 17 - that's St Patricks' Day.

It's a pity St Patrick didn't banish all the snakes from Canada as well as Ireland.

Off topic but under the auspices of light relief ...
St Patrick didn't just banish all the snakes from Ireland. He preformed two even greater miracles. He also removed any pre existing historical reference to them being there before his arrival and he removed all evidence of them from the fossil record!

[Beacon]

The only important moment is to draw attention of the authorities and let them reckon the measure of possible cost

I agree with all of the rest of you r post but would go further than this as I have here

http://www.realscam.com/f22/philosophy-rs-whether-mods-admins-should-follow-some-rules-themselves-2997/#post67096


I have a problem with assuming that is our ONLY role. [awareness and leave it up to others to act/decide] We do have a role in alerting authorities and in lobbying them while we are not necessarily obliged to do it. We do have a role in advocating a particular action or in declaring something is a scam. This is a very sensitive issue however and we should be careful about defamation which is why "you decide" in addition to avoiding censorship also neatly avoids defamation.

I believe we also have an additional role in analysis. This happens to be my personal interest and an academic interest but I believe RS has a role in analysing both the criminology of the perpetrators and psychology of the victims. In addition we perform an analytical role in an jurisdictional sense. Traditionally legal discussion in academic journals about jurisprudence and the conflict of laws within a juristiction and between juristictions could and would drag on for years. Even though lawyers make up a major element of the political law makers, law makers rarely get involved in such arguments which are left to honorable jurists and senior civil servants . I think this process isn't sufficient in the internet age. We need a system whereby the people can discuss and respond to scams and make suggestion or advocate legal reform on an intrajuristictional basis.

[littleroundman]

Can someone clarify WHAT half million was decided upon in WHAT judgement. I haven't seen any primary source reference to that judgement.

We are seeing the combining of multiple rumours / stories here.

* On one of the webinars, Chris Smith showed an amount purportedly paid to Ian Driscoll "proving" Driscolls' claims were without merit and so the sheeple shouldn't be worried

* The news of the IoM liquidation has somehow morphed into A) Driscoll being able to get first dibs on the $6million B) Driscoll being behind the liquidation C) Driscoll won his civil case against Banners Broker

[Mundorf]

Of course we can,Beacon....I mean those of us with good law knowledge...however I am not the one.Some parts of civil procedural law are changing from time to time...here in Germany and Austria there is a must for almost every investigation that has reasonable suspicion in which case the investigation costs are unessential...let's see the situation development but I do not think BB could be shut down from inside....the followers mind debacle is to high for any action against BB so it will be authorities to end the story or scam will continue to damage people

[scamassassin007]

I See Ole Al Sills Removed many of his "PASSIVE" and "INVESTING" videos.
Proof that they read here!

*Thats ok AL.. We have them recorded for the authorities!

[scamassassin007]

We are seeing the combining of multiple rumours / stories here.

* On one of the webinars, Chris Smith showed an amount purportedly paid to Ian Driscoll "proving" Driscolls' claims were without merit and so the sheeple shouldn't be worried

* The news of the IoM liquidation has somehow morphed into A) Driscoll being able to get first dibs on the $6million B) Driscoll being behind the liquidation C) Driscoll won his civil case against Banners Broker

Agreed.... My Expanded points:

The focus should be on the fact that "something is being done".
I have never been, nor I will be a Ian Driscoll supporter as I think most us share this sentiment!
But..
He Ian sitting on a wealth of information that could help the victims

Let's not lose sight of the fact that Chris Smith has lied time and time again. He used a FREE version of excel to show us his spreadsheet.
Anyone can make up a spread sheet so we really do not know what Ian was paid. Chris Smith has lied almost weekly!

I would also like to point out that in the BB Skype Rooms and some of the private forums. (as we have posted in proof in the past) They seem to demonize Ex BB patriots. They shift the blame to them. It is in my opinion that this information flows from the top. These scammers are not to be trusted. Hopefully the authorities will someday sort all this out.

[Jerrygo]

I must admit I skip over the long academic posts, to me they are tedious.But I understand some of you are entertained by duelling over the ramifications and outcome of the IOM judgement. Or displaying your expertise in the working of company liquidation courts.
Being simple minded, I'll pass by all the guesses, and just take the news as it comes.
As it is now, I'm just delighted that Smith's $6million escape stash has been taken from him. And I believe that in means more to him than a "pesky situation".
At 10$ each, he would have to recruit 600,000 members to BBmobile to make up for that loss.
With all the bad press here in Ireland, 3 national newspaper stories, and radio coverage in the last week, they wont get any recruits here.
With all the chargebacks, many banks now have BBI on the radar.
Smith going into meltdown and stuttering his way through last webinar
A small claims court action against Stepsys in UK.
Many members contacting the IOM liquidators with claims.
Many BBI affiliates in revolt, and getting banned.
And so it goes. IT'S ALL GOOD.

[Ken Roklin]

Can someone clarify WHAT half million was decided upon in WHAT judgement. I haven't seen any primary source reference to that judgement.

The half million I was referring to is what Chris showed in his webinar that BBI had paid Driscoll over 2 years for his being the IC or whatever job he had in Ireland. I haven't seen what the courts awarded him in his lawsuit in the UK.

[Della Cate]

Well it's pathetic. Over on the BB FB page, they are all posting the Bb hashtags: #banners broker, #banners mobile and (wait for it) #future is bright.

As a non-twitter user, I haven't a clue what this is all about, but I fail to see how posting these names on a facebook page = internet advertising with commensurate income!

Weird.

[Della Cate]

Aha! So it's a cunning plan, eh, Ronnie?

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[Buster Gutt]

As a non-twitter user, I haven't a clue what this is all about

Presumably, as a non Twitter user, your viewpoint carries no value whatsoever.

[AshKen1]

#futureisbright

It's not just about BB that's for sure. As in, it's not unique to BB users, so a lot of their crap will be lost in amongst other people's stuff.

Good choice there Ron. Not.

It's worth having a look at Banners Broker though. You'll see quite a lot of the usual suspects.

I think a lot of what they plan to do will be lost as there are simply too many users.

[Whip]

Aha! So it's a cunning plan, eh, Ronnie?

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lol. yeah...........that's not going anywhere. but I guess you need something to prolong the pillaging of cash.

[scamassassin007]

FYI

Might be of interest:
James David Waters profile | free company director check (http://www.companydirectorcheck.com/james-david-waters-6)

[littleroundman]

Here's another Banners Broker charmer:

Not content with pimping Banners Broker,

http://imageshack.com/a/img33/5601/ffx8.jpg

Chris Cronin sets up a Facebook page pretending to warn people about HYIP ponzi scams, but instead, uses it to pimp his latest scam.

http://imageshack.com/a/img268/381/0l8m.jpg

(And, yes, you're right. That IS our old friend, the infamous TERRY CUTHBERT (http://www.realscam.com/f9/terry-cuthbert-again-2136/?highlight=terry+cuthbert) debating the merits of various HYIP ponzi frauds with Chris Cronin

[littleroundman]

FYI

Might be of interest:
James David Waters profile | free company director check (http://www.companydirectorcheck.com/james-david-waters-6)

Interesting:

http://imageshack.com/a/img43/9710/unc1.jpg

[Beacon]

Agreed.... My Expanded points:

The focus should be on the fact that "something is being done".
I have never been, nor I will be a Ian Driscoll supporter as I think most us share this sentiment!
But..
He Ian sitting on a wealth of information that could help the victims


This brings in a prionciple of US law which isnt used in the UK ( well they never admit to it) ~ plea bargaining. Now it is possible that a judge can decide to be lenient because someone came clean. It is also possible that in a civil case the parties can come to a deal ( which I would totally object to on principle in this case because I don't believe Driscoll was duped or that he invested any significant amount of his own money). But assuming a criminal conviction it is possible that he would not get prison if he came clean ~ do they still have birching or the cat of nine tails in the Isle of Man?


Let's not lose sight of the fact that Chris Smith has lied time and time again. He used a FREE version of excel to show us his spreadsheet.
Anyone can make up a spread sheet so we really do not know what Ian was paid. Chris Smith has lied almost weekly!


But that may also support Driscoll's case. What is significant about Chris lying is showing Driscoll supported him in those lies.


I would also like to point out that in the BB Skype Rooms and some of the private forums. (as we have posted in proof in the past) They seem to demonize Ex BB patriots. They shift the blame to them. It is in my opinion that this information flows from the top. These scammers are not to be trusted. Hopefully the authorities will someday sort all this out.

Yes but you make a logical error here. Chris can also be telling the truth. If Chris says "Driscol is a scammer" he may well be correct. You just can't rely on Chris to prove Driscol is a scammer. You have to show Driscoll also supported the scam.

[Beacon]

Any news on the Crewe case? Anyone heard from Demian?

[Beacon]

Simon, you are no Wolf of Wall Street. More....um...the Hamster of Hale? The Weasel of Wythenshaw?

The Nematoad of Nantwitch ? Or maybe newt/narwhale ?

[AshKen1]

I have to say I'm sitting here smiling.

According to their Twitter profile @bannersbroker, BB have 11.6K followers which is pretty impressive.

Shame then that only 21% of of those followers are active. Probably the usual suspects there.

Nearly 66% are inactive and the rest are fake (as in robots)

Keep going Ronnie, keep going... I'm sure that you'll draw in hundreds if not thousands more........... NOT!

[Della Cate]

The Nematoad of Nantwitch ? Or maybe newt/narwhale ?

Thanks, Beacon, I momentarily forgot where old Simon S lives.

The Newt of Nantwich, classic!

His FB page is now full of what I am guessing are quotes and stills from the Wolf of Wall Street. Loads of posts about loving money and concentrating on money and getting money; it's all most distasteful IMO. And silly. Does he not realise that the film TWOWS is seen by some people as a devastating critique of capitalism? Mind you, he probably thought Gordon Gekko was a role model as well. (People from the UK might remember the TV programme "Only Fools and Horses" when Del Boy modelled himself on Gordon Gekko, complete with red braces and an aluminium briefcase......)

Simon Stepsys could do with a slap round the face with a wet fish!

(PS: What is a nematoad??)

[JackTolerance]

Hi folks

I got back from the dentist this morning to find this letter from my bank regarding my ongoing slog to claim chargeback on the money I put into Banners Joker:

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Looks like a month of battling the bank has/is going to pay off :pulling_hair_out:

I'd like to thank Tara Talks, Banners Broker Ponzi Scam Facebook page as well as some of the folks off here who have tirelessly fought and keep fighting to educate and even entertain those out there about these charlatans.

Thanks, guys and keep up the good fight!

And for those who may be in a chargeback tussle - DON'T give up, keep persevering! I think if it wasn't for this recent liquidation hearing and all the proof/correspondence I've had since from David Rubin & Partners who are dealing with this, I would probably still be trying to get somewhere. I can tell you I've spent I don't know how long talking to my bank back and forth for weeks and it's been a royal pain to be honest. But HOPEFULLY my efforts have now paid off.

Best of luck everyone, let's see some more success stories on here :RpS_cool:

[path2prosperity]

(PS: What is a nematoad??)

A very unpleasant parasitic worm. When I was a kid, my brother offered me half his sweet ration to clean out his pig sties for a week. I will never forget the seething mass of worms from the unfortunate pigs.

Don't look at the images before a meal. (https://www.google.co.uk/#q=nematoad+worm)

[Della Cate]

I have to say I'm sitting here smiling.

According to their Twitter profile @bannersbroker, BB have 11.6K followers which is pretty impressive.

Shame then that only 21% of of those followers are active. Probably the usual suspects there.

Nearly 66% are inactive and the rest are fake (as in robots)

Keep going Ronnie, keep going... I'm sure that you'll draw in hundreds if not thousands more........... NOT!

Yes, and all they are doing is tweeting the Bb related hashtags and adding "please follow me"!

Come on....does anyone really, really think that by doing this they are (1) participating in online advertising and (2) going to make money from it? If so they are spectacularly stupid, IMHO.

Whatever happened to buying adverts on the web and brokering banners? Have Chris Smith and co forgotten all about that, hmmm?

[Beacon]

(PS: What is a nematoad??)
A phylum of AFAIK celomate worms
They include thread worms and roundworms and they comprise 95% of the bottom feeding life on the ocean floor.

[Beacon]

The half million I was referring to is what Chris showed in his webinar that BBI had paid Driscoll over 2 years for his being the IC or whatever job he had in Ireland. I haven't seen what the courts awarded him in his lawsuit in the UK.
this would be the same Chris and Driscol who said that BB had over 450,000 members and had billions in assets?
Driscol had the UK Independent contractor Job as far as I remember and this was handed to the Irish IC when BB dumped Driscol.
The think is people obviously paid money over to Driscol and we need some of them to come out of the woodwork.

But Im STILL not clear on any case made by driscol about BBI IoM owing him anything.

[HARRISON]

Martin Codack has a new job:

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[Ken Roklin]

this would be the same Chris and Driscol who said that BB had over 450,000 members and had billions in assets?
Driscol had the UK Independent contractor Job as far as I remember and this was handed to the Irish IC when BB dumped Driscol.
The think is people obviously paid money over to Driscol and we need some of them to come out of the woodwork.

But Im STILL not clear on any case made by driscol about BBI IoM owing him anything.

Post #14359 by littleroundman, he showed a Chancery & ordinary Procedures, isle of Man, where it listed a hearing on Feb. 10, 2014 Ian Driscoll, Claimant vs. Banners Broker International Limited, defendant, contractual disputes.

[Beacon]

I
As it is now, I'm just delighted that Smith's $6million escape stash has been taken from him. And I believe that in means more to him than a "pesky situation".
At 10$ each, he would have to recruit 600,000 members to BBmobile to make up for that loss.


Conversly with 15,000 Irish affiliates and maybe 15,000 UK affiliates thats only $200 each on average to haqve got $6million from them.
now Im sure ther are thousands with $50 who dont care anymore but we certainly know of cases of thousands or of over $10,000.

[Beacon]

Post #14359 by littleroundman, he showed a Chancery & ordinary Procedures, isle of Man, where it listed a hearing on Feb. 10, 2014 Ian Driscoll, Claimant vs. Banners Broker International Limited, defendant, contractual disputes.

Thanks for that. However there was no judgment yet delivered on this: Isle of Man Judgments Online (http://www.judgments.im/content/@47.htm)

[Mundorf]

Yes, and all they are doing is tweeting the Bb related hashtags and adding "please follow me"!

Come on....does anyone really, really think that by doing this they are (1) participating in online advertising and (2) going to make money from it? If so they are spectacularly stupid, IMHO.

Whatever happened to buying adverts on the web and brokering banners? Have Chris Smith and co forgotten all about that, hmmm?

They are...spectacularly and permanently stupid...the only 2 reasons why this scam is still alive

[scamassassin007]

Banners Broker Facebook Page Today Posted Instruction How To TRY To Block "NEGATIVE" POSTS:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1979487_217023011829690_693384872_n.jpg

This clearly backfired. BB does not have the power on control that they do with TalkingBB, The BB Skype Rooms, BB -Facebook and other controlled forums.

Many people are posting their warnings and views on Twitter. Chris seems to think it would be smooth sailing.

The "SCAMMER TWEET SCAMMER" idea is not working so well.

*The Banners Broker Ponzi Scam Facebook page Admin reported that Banners Broker will be doing Manual Twitter Panel Movement.

[Whip]

What is 'Manual Twitter Panel Movement' mean besides shitting themselves?

[Fairplay]

Banners Broker Facebook Page Today Posted Instruction How To TRY To Block "NEGATIVE" POSTS:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1979487_217023011829690_693384872_n.jpg

This clearly backfired. BB does not have the power on control that they do with TalkingBB, The BB Skype Rooms, BB -Facebook and other controlled forums.

Many people are posting their warnings and views on Twitter. Chris seems to think it would be smooth sailing.

The "SCAMMER TWEET SCAMMER" idea is not working so well.

*The Banners Broker Ponzi Scam Facebook page Admin reported that Banners Broker will be doing Manual Twitter Panel Movement.

Lmao, i bet the Manual Twitter Movement will be every bit as good as the Manual Payments!!! I reckon Smithy boy if he had an education would be dangerous !!

[Jerrygo]

Conversly with 15,000 Irish affiliates and maybe 15,000 UK affiliates thats only $200 each on average to haqve got $6million from them.
now Im sure ther are thousands with $50 who dont care anymore but we certainly know of cases of thousands or of over $10,000.

Beacon, I realize that you like to reply to every post with a contrary view. Please notice the future tense in my post.
"At 10$ each, he would have to recruit 600,000 members to BBmobile to make up for that loss."
And your rebuttal "Conversly with 15,000 Irish affiliates and maybe 15,000 UK affiliates thats only $200 each on average to haqve got $6million from them"

I really wish you would not reply to my posts, it was one of the reasons I drifted away from this forum.

[Beacon]

Beacon, I realize that you like to reply to every post with a contrary view. Please notice the future tense in my post.
"At 10$ each, he would have to recruit 600,000 members to BBmobile to make up for that loss."
And your rebuttal "Conversly with 15,000 Irish affiliates and maybe 15,000 UK affiliates thats only $200 each on average to haqve got $6million from them"

I really wish you would not reply to my posts, it was one of the reasons I drifted away from this forum.

It isn't a rebuttal it is a corollary. As such it depends on your statement being TRUE. It therefore is NOT a contrary view. It is an observational about the past based on your supposition about the future.

What you or I wish or don't wish has no relation to the logical facts. If you don't like my posts you don't have to respond to them and you are free to ignore me. If you have a personal issue with me then take it to PM. I certainly don't have any personal issue with you in spite of your obvious dislike of me.

[AshKen1]

Banners Broker Facebook Page Today Posted Instruction How To TRY To Block "NEGATIVE" POSTS:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1979487_217023011829690_693384872_n.jpg

This clearly backfired. BB does not have the power on control that they do with TalkingBB, The BB Skype Rooms, BB -Facebook and other controlled forums.

Many people are posting their warnings and views on Twitter. Chris seems to think it would be smooth sailing.

The "SCAMMER TWEET SCAMMER" idea is not working so well.

*The Banners Broker Ponzi Scam Facebook page Admin reported that Banners Broker will be doing Manual Twitter Panel Movement.

Um... blocking someone else on Twitter will only stop YOU seeing the tweets. They will continue to be shown to the rest of the world. Think of it like sitting in a room full of people and putting your fingers in your ears whilst saying "la la la I can't hear you".

Pick a medium, any medium Chris... you're as sh!t in this one as you were in the internet advertising...

[scamassassin007]

Lmao, i bet the Manual Twitter Movement will be every bit as good as the Manual Payments!!! I reckon Smithy boy if he had an education would be dangerous !!

MESSAGE TO CHRIS SMITH AND ALL THE Banners Broker PONZI NAZIS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91SP_2R_sE&feature=youtu.be

@ Chris Smith--> NEW PEOPLE READ TWEETS CHRIS.. Not For The BB Scammers That TWEET EACH OTHER!

FYI Hasgtags to piss them off: Their #TAGS They USe ---> #bannersbroker #bannersmobile #futureisbright
Other BB Group #TAGS #bringonBBv3 #countdownbegins #bringonBBv3 #talkingbbforum #talkingbbf
Our Anti BB Association #TAGS ---> = #PONZI #SCAM #BBLiquidation

Some Creative Anti BB TWEETS I Have Read:

Banners Broker = *PUBLIC INORMATION* #BBLIQUIDATION =Email paul.cooper@drpartners.com. 020 7400 7900 #bannersbroker #PONZI

DO NOT JOIN BANNERS BROKER! DON"T TRUST #PONZI NAZI PIMPS! #bannersbroker #bannersmobile #futureisbright --> #BBLIQUIDATION

+ 4FACTS GOOGLE= "Banners Broker #PONZI #SCAM " Don't join = #bannersbroker #bannersmobile #futureisbright Ask #BBLIQUIDATION

Banners Broker #Ponzi Pimps R STUPID Our TWEETS R $ NEW Victims! BLOCK US U MORONS! #SCAM = BB #bannersmobile #futureisbright

Banners Broker gave over 3 years of LIES! Don't Join #bannersbroker #bannersmobile #SCAM #futureisbright #ponzi

Fun For The Whole Family! TWEET AWAY!

[scamassassin007]

Here It Is: Banners Broker IOM PUBLIC NOTICE DOCUMENT

READ: Bottom Right Corner: SEE DOC---> http://freepdfhosting.com/e9ccccb994.pdf (http://freepdfhosting.com/e9ccccb994.pdf)

*(Bottom Right Corner Of Doc)

ZOOM:
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1779798_217142071817784_1546891432_n.jpg

REACTION:

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/q71/s720x720/1978771_216946615170663_1163471944_n.jpg

@ Chris Smith..We all know there was never a product!

Also

More FROZEN Banners Broker Accounts being reported on a daily bases. Many claim for no good reason.

[Beacon]

Here It Is: Banners Broker IOM PUBLIC NOTICE DOCUMENT

READ: Bottom Right Corner: SEE DOC---> http://freepdfhosting.com/e9ccccb994.pdf (http://freepdfhosting.com/e9ccccb994.pdf)

*(Bottom Right Corner Of Doc)



Eventually got a court listing
Welcome to the Insolvency List (http://www.insolvencylist.com/details.php?Serial=857159)


Notice Type: Overseas Territories and Dependencies


Company or Person: Banners Broker International Limited

DAVID RUBIN & PARTNERS

FINCHLEY 1

0208 343 5900

David Rubin & Partners, London, Insolvency, Corporate Recovery & Forensic Accounting Specialists, business (http://www.drpartners.com)

Creditors report attached
Further Details:
Company Number:
Insolvency Firm: DAVID RUBIN & PARTNERS

Notice Text:

In the High Court of Justice, Civil Division Chancery Division No CHP 14/008 of 2014 Banners Broker International Limited (Under the Order for winding up the above named Company dated 26 February 2014) Notice is hereby given that the first meeting of Contributories in the above mater will be held at the iMuseum, Kingswood Grove, Douglas, Isle of Man, IM1 3LY on 12 March 2014 at 11.00 am. Forms of general and special proxies are available. Proxies to be used at the meeting must be lodged at the offices of David Rubin & Partners LLP, 26-28 Bedford Row, London, WC1R 4HE by not later than 12.00 noon on 11 March 2014. Miles Andrew Benham and Paul Robert Appleton, Joint Official Receivers and Joint Provisional Liquidators 3 March 2014
Name:
Title: Joint Official Receivers and Joint Provisional Liquidators
Publish Date: 03/05/2014

[Beacon]

Um... blocking someone else on Twitter will only stop YOU seeing the tweets.

Effectively what you mean is "Ignoring" rather than "blocking" (!) Now this is ironic because BB have been ignoring but not blocking all the requests from money from their affiliates for years so they should be expert in this!

[Jerrygo]

It isn't a rebuttal it is a corollary. As such it depends on your statement being TRUE. It therefore is NOT a contrary view. It is an observational about the past based on your supposition about the future.

What you or I wish or don't wish has no relation to the logical facts. If you don't like my posts you don't have to respond to them and you are free to ignore me. If you have a personal issue with me then take it to PM. I certainly don't have any personal issue with you in spite of your obvious dislike of me.

Done deal Beacon. I will ignore your posts and you can ignore mine.Then you, I and the forum will be the better for it.
I think you know the reason for the animosity, and I have no desire to pm you.
I expect your ego won't allow someone else to get the last word so I can expect a final post from you to me.
After that lets ignore each other, and keep the peace on the forum.

[scamassassin007]

Hey Chris Smith... TWEET THIS!

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/p180x540/1622799_217166428482015_192416162_n.jpg

[AshKen1]

Effectively what you mean is "Ignoring" rather than "blocking" (!) Now this is ironic because BB have been ignoring but not blocking all the requests from money from their affiliates for years so they should be expert in this!

Doesn't really matter what it means Beacon, you can go look it up on Twitter if you feel you must.

For those few followers who will do as they are bid, it's like they're sitting there in their own little circle with their fingers in their ears. Same sh!t, different day.

The reality is that BB will not make any difference to Twitter. BB might as well have said go stand in a public car park and bark and the moon... oh wait...

[Della Cate]

Breaking news! According to the BB Fb page, they are "pushing out a Payza payment" (sounds a bit gruesome when they phrase it like that). So the infamous blackout will be delayed until after this!

Perhaps they cannot find the right socket to unplug the computer?

https://www.facebook.com/bannersbroker?fref=ts

[Della Cate]

And here is today's webinar: - (bold is mine)

Banners Broker Webinar 7.3.14

Chris Smith
Ron will do the majority of the webinar.
Today is an important day for BB as we will be able to do the migration into glorious v3.
A Payza payout will be sent out today. It's almost ready to go.

Ron
Welcome everyone to this very special webinar. I'm going to be walking you through the v3 platform. The site will go to blackout in approximately 1 hour. It means that at 12.00 EST. 5.00pm GMT, the site will be taken off line. You will not be able to go in and do anything on the BB website. It's like trying to clean up the house while you have 100,000 inside. We will close the doors until everything is ready to come back up again.

The BB World Tour will be in Trinidad and Tobago. We are still working on the dates and the information will be sent out via social media and the webinars.

Ron showed screen shots of how to log in and explained that it was faster and cleaner. He also showed and talked about the security features tab. You will need to remember your security questions and or pin for the first time you log in to v3. If you forget them, it will make it very difficult to get back into your account.

With the Id’s, unfortunately, there is too much data to migrate and we are asking everyone to reload their ID. If you have already had your ID approved, you will have 90 days to upload the ID again. If you haven't had your ID approved, you will have 30 days in which to do it. This is to prevent fraud.
Chris said here that the data formatting is completely different in v3 and that's why it needs to be done again. Some of the data is old and we are looking to get fresh data from everyone.

Social networking is going to be very important. When you go into v3, fill in your social media profile details (names for Twitter, fb, etc.)
V3 has been built from scratch and v3 is going to be much easier to use. It will be faster and more efficient.

There are lots of new options for incentive traffic including tweeting, watching you tube videos and face book postings. If you want to promote yourself, you can buy face book likes, etc.

This is v3. It's been a long time coming but we are excited to get it out.

We will give you time to set up your Twitter account. It needs to be 30 days old before you can use it for the weekly tasks and they will start on April 2nd

There is new promotional content. Webinar schedules in different languages. Educational tutorials on using social media.

Thanks you very much everyone. I hope everyone signs up for the other webinars.
Tesla draw a week on Monday. From myself and on behalf of the BB team, thank you for joining us here and we look forward to seeing you on Monday. Have a great weekend.

End of webinar. Synopsis of notes taken by Helen Wright. Not official BB notes.

Some observations:-

How many people will forget their password/pin and be locked out of their accounts?

Not more uploading of personal data! Haven't they got enough??

BUYING facebook likes, eh? I thought that wasn't allowed, that it was fraud....oh, hang on a sec....

What has watching videos on YouTube got to do with brokering banners??

Glorious V3 Hahahahaha!

[Ken Roklin]

And here is today's webinar: - (bold is mine)



Social networking is going to be very important. When you go into v3, fill in your social media profile details (names for Twitter, fb, etc.)
V3 has been built from scratch and v3 is going to be much easier to use. It will be faster and more efficient.

There are lots of new options for incentive traffic including tweeting, watching you tube videos and face book postings. If you want to promote yourself, you can buy face book likes, etc.


End of webinar. Synopsis of notes taken by Helen Wright. Not official BB notes.

Some observations:-

BUYING facebook likes, eh? I thought that wasn't allowed, that it was fraud....oh, hang on a sec....

Glorious V3 Hahahahaha!

From Facebook:
"In a blog post by its security team at the end of August, Facebook announced a new automated system for detecting and removing fraudulent likes, noting:

'A Like that doesn't come from someone truly interested in connecting with a Page benefits no one. Real identity, for both users and brands on Facebook, is important to not only Facebook’s mission of helping the world share, but also the need for people and customers to authentically connect to the Pages they care about. When a Page and fan connect on Facebook, we want to ensure that connection involves a real person interested in hearing from a specific Page and engaging with that brand’s content. As such, we have recently increased our automated efforts to remove Likes on Pages that may have been gained by means that violate our Facebook Terms.'"

I believe alerting Facebook to BBI's promotion to purchase links wouldn't hurt.

[Joe_Shmoe]

Some observations:-

How many people will forget their password/pin and be locked out of their accounts?

Not more uploading of personal data! Haven't they got enough??

BUYING facebook likes, eh? I thought that wasn't allowed, that it was fraud....oh, hang on a sec....

What has watching videos on YouTube got to do with brokering banners??

Glorious V3 Hahahahaha!

And the sheeple will continue to lap it up... :RpS_rolleyes:

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[Julie Diligent]

And the sheeple will continue to lap it up... :RpS_rolleyes:

Perhaps a press release on BB to this esteemed publication is in order, then, Joe:

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http://www.thedailysheeple.com (http://thedailysheeple.com)

[Eponymous]

Found another cretin pushing all kinds of wonky deals... Bill Willmot! ANd look, hes celebrating having $100k in his account!!

http://billwillmott.com/banners-broker-100k-milestone/

Except.... "available to withdraw 1896.74, withdrawal history zero"....:duh:

Must be some kind of glitch on the internet at the moment... this link no longer works, and there's no reference to BB on Billy Boy's grubby little website. Fortunately I alerted the Inland Revenue to his $100k earnings while the page link still worked; plus I've got a copy myself....

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I wonder if his "business" is still growing?

[littleroundman]

http://imageshack.com/a/img827/5690/3kot.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img703/755/ltnx.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img42/9624/zte7.jpg

[scamassassin007]

BB BLOG - CULT LIKE POSTS CONTINUES!

The Ponzi NAZIs At It Again! They FEAR a FREE Voice and the facts!

............................. :loser:
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[NikSam]

Company registration in IoM also got updated today , listing Liquidators.

Companies registry public view (http://portal.gov.im/pvi/CompanyDetails.aspx?company=124375C)

(made a mistake in "London" :) )


So Rubin Partners LLP are working for Ian Driscoll (as i suspected).
If someone hoping for a fair distribution of $6m they should be worrying now since Ian wants $3m more on top of what he already scammed.

[littleroundman]

http://imageshack.com/a/img842/7011/ul2n.jpg

Isle of Man Gov (http://portal.gov.im/pvi/CompanyDetails.aspx?company=124375C)

[scamassassin007]

WTF? DELAY Blackout to allow a payout and you can reverse your WITHDRAWAL REQUESTS?

Why would you want to REVERSE????????

*Tonights Banners Broker Facebook Page... "You Can't Make This SH#% UP!

................................ :loser:

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1779875_217285488470109_148399796_n.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://imageshack.com/a/img842/8018/4uql.jpg

Honestly,

Smiffy could hit her on the head with a baseball bat, then stick a gun in her back and steal her purse and she STILL wouldn't realize she's been involved with a fraud and Smiffys' sole intention is to steal as much of members money as he can before he's either caught or skips the country.

[littleroundman]

WTF? DELAY Blackout to allow a payout and you can reverse your WITHDRAWAL REQUESTS?

You have to understand the mind of a HYIP ponzi player.

It's much better to be not paid because YOU reversed the withdrawal than it is to be not paid because Smiffy hasn't paid anyone for at least 15 months.

The end result may be the same, but it makes the HYIPer feel better.

[scamassassin007]

*** MIGRATION DOCUMENT POSTED ON TWITTER ***
http://bannersbroker.com/images/migration.pdf

BB UPDATE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0sYBtxDL3c#t=25

:pt:

[Poyol]

http://imageshack.com/a/img827/5690/3kot.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img703/755/ltnx.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img42/9624/zte7.jpg

162 Circumstances in which company may be wound up by court
A company may be wound up by the court if —
(1) the company has by special resolution resolved that the company be
wound up by the court;
(2) being a public company which was registered as such on its original
incorporation, has not complied with the conditions for the
commencement of business required by subsection (1)(a) and (b) of
section 95 of this Act or, as the case may be, subsection (2)(b) of that
section;254

(3) the company does not commence its business within a year from its
incorporation, or suspends its business for a whole year;
(4) except in the case of a private company limited by shares or by
guarantee, the number of members is reduced below two;255

(5) the company is unable to pay its debts;
(6) the court is of opinion that it is just and equitable that the company
should be wound up.

[scamassassin007]

Banners Broker's "World eWallet" Seems to be keeping the sheep at bay by making symbolic posts of loss of jobs and scam companies taking money and people's losses seeming to TRY to legitimize themselves. More #Ponzi Nazui Proaganda!
.....................:loser:
LOOK: ----> https://www.facebook.com/worldewallet


_____________________ TWITTER FYI _________________________

Since Banners Broker is teaching their SHEEP how to BLOCK "Anti BB Propaganda" and giving them TWITTER instructions...
I thought it only fitting to post ideas for the other side:

HINT: (Try Not To Engage Pro BB Sheep As They Will Report )

*** You! Use The #HashTags ***

http://www.garyloper.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Gary-Loper-Life-Business-Social-Media-Coach-Happy-Tweeting.jpg

More Tending Twitter Post Ideas I read this morning: Feel Free To Use Them:

Why Do #PONZI NAZI PIMPs promote Banners Broker when BB Don't Pay? #bannersbroker #bannersmobile = #SCAM# #moneyonmymind
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WE DOCUMENT BANNERS BROKER PIMP TWEETS FOR THE AUTHORITIES! #bannersbroker #bannersmobile = #PONZI #SCAM #futureisbright
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4FACTS GOOGLE= "Banners Broker #PONZI #SCAM " Don't join = #bannersbroker #futureisbright #bannersmobilet Ask #BBLIQUIDATION
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BB VICTIMS = LIQUIDATION Banners Broker Email paul.cooper@drpartners.com. 020 7400 7900 #bannersbroker #PONZI #bannersmobile
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DON'T TRUST #bannersbroker! Google> Banners Broker #Ponzi #Scam RIP OFF! Banners Broker SUCKS #bannersmobile #thefutureisbright
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BANNERS BROKER $ #BBLIQUIDATION Email paul.cooper@drpartners.com. 020 7400 7900 #bannersbroker #BBLiquidation #futureisbright
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DO NOT TRUST BANNERS BROKER LIES! READ THE TRUTH! #bannersbroker & #bannersmobile = #PONZI & #SCAM pic.twitter.com/i0a1qE5EQZ
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BB VICTIMS = LIQUIDATION Banners Broker Email paul.cooper@drpartners.com. 020 7400 7900 #bannersbroker #PONZI #bannersmobile
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@ Chris Smith! SHUT YOUR CAKE HOLE! Banners Broker = #PONZI #SCAM = #bannersbroker #bannersmobile #futureisbright BB BS
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The Banners Broker SCUMBAG #PONZI NAZI PIMPS LIE! #bannersbroker & #bannersmobile Does Not Pay! #SCAM BB BS! #futureisbright
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Banners Broker = *PUBLIC INFORMATION* #BBLIQUIDATION =Email paul.cooper@drpartners.com. 020 7400 7900 #bannersbroker #PONZI
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We are Sad! Banned Broker promised us PASSIVE INCOME. They Never PAY! #bannersbroker & Banersmobile are #scam s & #Ponzi s
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READ FACTUAL NEWS! Banners Broker Is A #SCAM ! #bannersbroker #bannersmobile #futureisbright = #PONZI pic.twitter.com/n0MKhOTMl5
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OFFICIAL Banners Broker IOM Court Notice: #bannersbroker #bannersmobile #futureisbright = #PONZI #SCAM pic.twitter.com/U5iodB4uZI
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BB nem mondja el az igazat! Fuss ettől a társaságtól! #SCAM & #PONZI = #bannersbroker #futureisbright #bannersmobile
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I have NEVER been paid! Banners Broker is a #SCAM & #PONZI Don't Join #bannersbroker #bannersmobile #futureisbright BB=BS!
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DO NOT JOIN BANNERS BROKER ! Avoid the PIMP TWEETS #bannersbroker #bannersmobile = #PONZI #SCAM #futureisbright
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Banners Broker DOES NOT PAY! #bannersbroker & #bannersmobile = #SCAM #futureisbright BB SUCKS!

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/p180x540/1622799_217166428482015_192416162_n.jpg

[Joe_Shmoe]

More dissatisfied customers post on facebook...


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[Whip]

Is it still blackmail if they don't get what the blackmailers promise?

[scamassassin007]

More dissatisfied customers post on facebook...


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WOW! I thin ELLEN KEmp Gets It!

#PONZI NAZI promoter = Allen Sill posting all over Twitter and self promoting: Al's Post: >>> "Twitter can be a VERY powerful tool... and if you're in banners broker, you will want to know about THIS....." <<< Twitter - Banners Broker


http://youtu.be/D2wGxng6q1A?a

*Please Flag


He is also promoting a "TWITTER Instruction page online as why TWITTER is important to BB"

I wonder if he will use the words: "PASSIVE & INVESTING" this time?

[Beacon]

http://imageshack.com/a/img827/5690/3kot.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img703/755/ltnx.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img42/9624/zte7.jpg
Ok so that is telliung me Driscoll will get costs out of this.
That means his legal and other costs e.g. flights to IoM hotels ther etc.
Given Driscol didnt show I assume something of the order of 3 to 4k. Certainly not mre than 10k. and all of that is for the lawyers not Driscol.
He does NOT get any of the $6million

[Beacon]

Company registration in IoM also got updated today , listing Liquidators.

Companies registry public view (http://portal.gov.im/pvi/CompanyDetails.aspx?company=124375C)

(made a mistake in "London" :) )


So Rubin Partners LLP are working for Ian Driscoll (as i suspected).
If someone hoping for a fair distribution of $6m they should be worrying now since Ian wants $3m more on top of what he already scammed.

Read the terms of reference.
Driscoll gets costs only.
After that the liquidators decide if he is owed anything as a creditor.
You really think they will just give him $3million

[NikSam]

@scamassassin007
Just a tip: try to use words NAZI and SHEEP less (or not at all) if you want some victims to pay attention to you.

[scamassassin007]

@scamassassin007
Just a tip: try to use words NAZI and SHEEP less (or not at all) if you want some victims to pay attention to you.

@ NipSam.. They listen more to me then you,. Please worry about your own boring Posts.

I for one do not need posting advice from you.

I guess they prefer pointless arguing?

We get enough #PONZI NAZI policing from the Banners Broker Tribe!

You don't get the objective. My post are for potential victims, public knowledge, a jab at BB and the #Ponzi Nazi Sheep, and the leaders. These guys are like a CULT and we are not going to change many minds. If you think for one minute they take the time to read your long winded diatribes.. You are mistaken.

Thank YOU!

[scamassassin007]

Is Chris SMith still just Talking with all the Banners Broker changes & BBV3?

http://m.uploadedit.com/b029/1394297314630.gif

*Credit To Dan Dare

[NikSam]

Read the terms of reference.
Driscoll gets costs only.
After that the liquidators decide if he is owed anything as a creditor.
You really think they will just give him $3million

I would not like him getting a penny, otherwise if those $6m were treated as ill gotten gains and BB as a ponzi (which are not at the moment)
he should have surrendered all the past proceeds to the pool.
We do not know what deal Ian and Rubin Partners have, he contacted them first, knew about money in IoM, he brought them "business".

[scamassassin007]

More BB Sheep Starting To Speak Out.

*Look B4 Their Comments Are Erased From The #Ponzi #Nazis

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1897839_606843296058569_549793136_n.jpg

Again, More daily reports of FROZEN accounts from people starting to speak out and joining the BAnners Broker Ponzi Facebook Page!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Banners-Broker-Ponzi-Scam/398614356881465https://www.facebook.com/pages/Banners-Broker-Ponzi-Scam/398614356881465

[scamassassin007]

The BB Propaganda Machine Hard At Work:


TRANSLATION = "WE WILL PAY YOU IF YOU LIE"

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t31/q71/s720x720/1911207_10152259522381061_1643879207_o.jpg

You can find new people that have join on Youtube mentioning how "BANNERS BROKER HAS CHANGES THEIR LIES"

So Uplifting and Utopic! BS!

Apparently, BB does not care if you LIE so long as it is POSITIVE!

More of the same.. Except now they don't say "PASSIVE" publically!

http://amazingasset.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/14773b2971c73b-43.-Pinocchio.jpg

............... :loser:

"LIVING AN EPIC ADVENTURE":


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCLK0bnn3Pw

Gino Van de Walle is pushing a Youtube Blitzkrieg dozens Pro BB videos of in recent weeks.

Listening to him you would thing that BAnners Broker is a world changing miracle they will let anyone become rich.
He comes short of claiming that BB Will end world hunger and cure Aids!

Taking Bets as to whether he is getting paid?

[AshKen1]

Does anyone know if BB has gone into lockdown yet?

Seems to be returning either 401 or 403 error.....

Also had a funny glitch on here I've reported to LRM, Poyol and Soapboxmom - more will be revealed shortly.

[scamassassin007]

Does anyone know if BB has gone into lockdown yet?

Seems to be returning either 401 or 403 error.....

Also had a funny glitch on here I've reported to LRM, Poyol and Soapboxmom - more will be revealed shortly.

@ Ken

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/q71/s720x720/1970683_217491575116167_407363230_n.jpg

* FYI "Glitch" = Keep forcing login and see what happens.

[Joe_Shmoe]

I get this when trying to go to bannersbroker.com

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Then this

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[scamassassin007]

I get this when trying to go to bannersbroker.com

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Then this

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@ Joe_Shmoe YEP!

[scamassassin007]

And In Today's Soap Opera: "THE SCAM OF OUR LIVES"

Banners Broker Facebook Page 3-8-14

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1601008_217536138445044_1541760427_n.jpg

At least some of the sheep are leaving the flock.

[scamassassin007]

Banners Broker Again Removing "Negative Remarks" & honest questions and comments, Blocking Affiliates from forums and skype rooms and Freezing BB accounts...

Not to mention the HARSH way affiliates are treated in the Skype rooms and forums for questioning of commenting on BB actions or any kind of dissension in the ranks.

One of the comments above was also deleted. Hence the term : "PONZI NAZI"

Even PatrickPretty.com refered to Banners Broker as "CULT LIKE"

Meanwhile more weekly lies seemingly made up on the fly.

Even the most hardcore BB Sheep has to wonder what real business acts like this.

[scamassassin007]

Definite Maybe?

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t31/q71/s720x720/1966110_768007599878405_807673423_o.jpg

....................... #PONZI #SCAM COUNTDOWN
http://i.stack.imgur.com/KpOtd.gif


YEAH! BLACKOUT! LET'S CELEBRATE ANOTHER REASON NOT TO GET PAID! (!)

http://www.neconsultants.com/balloons_confetti_hw.gif

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/1904100_768009963211502_1856416623_n.jpg



*Credit Dan Dare & SA007

#BBSucks

[scamassassin007]

Behind the big business of selling Twitter followers and Facebook likes

A very good article everyone should read.

Perhaps the what Banners Broker is after with Twitter?


CLICK HERE - For The Article (http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/11/behind-the-big-business-of-selling-twitter-followers-and-facebook-likes-4298398/)



Schemes include ‘click farms’, where low-paid workers in poor countries are paid to repeatedly click the like button, view videos or retweet links, while support can also be given by fake profiles or genuine accounts hijacked by hackers and used to endorse profiles without their knowledge.

"low-paid workers" = BB Affiliates?



*Great find by Dan Dare

[littleroundman]

We get enough #PONZI NAZI policing from the Banners Broker Tribe!


Godwin's law

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/Mike_Godwin_at_Wikimedia_2010.jpg/220px-Mike_Godwin_at_Wikimedia_2010.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mike_Godwin_at_Wikimedia_2010.jpg)
Mike Godwin (2010)

Godwin's law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1" —​ that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.

Promulgated by American attorney and author Mike Godwin in 1990, Godwin's Law originally referred, specifically, to Usenet newsgroup discussions, it is now applied to any threaded online discussion, such as Internet forums, chat rooms and blog comment threads, as well as to speeches, articles and other rhetoric.

In 2012, "Godwin's Law" became an entry in the third edition of the Oxford English Dictionary.[7]

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[searcher]

I guess I just don't get it.... There is an order to close BB down, but they continue to move forward with BBSCAM V3. Does anyone know if the IoM order can actually be implemented? Thanks.

[littleroundman]

I guess I just don't get it.... There is an order to close BB down, but they continue to move forward with BBSCAM V3. Does anyone know if the IoM order can actually be implemented? Thanks.

The order only applies to the corporation registered in the Isle of Man, i.e. Banners Broker International Pty Ltd.

It does NOT apply to any of the other Banners Broker entities registered elsewhere.

What people either don't understand or do not want to understand is that this (Banners Broker) is NOT Zeek Rewards or AdSurf Daily or any of the other US registered and based HYIP ponzi frauds in recent history.

The incorporations mean nothing in the overall scheme of things.

IM(very)HO, the incorporated bodies are likely either "shelf companies"
(Shelf company) A shelf corporation, shelf company, or aged corporation, is a company or corporation that has had no activity. It was created and left with no activity - metaphorically put on the "shelf" to "age". )
or shell companies

shell company

noun
plural noun: shell companies


a non-trading company used as a vehicle for various financial manoeuvres or kept dormant for future use in some other capacity



designed to do exactly what has occurred over the past few weeks.

That is, keep attention away from Chris Smith and the other organizers of what is a multi million dollar fraud.

IANAL, not do I play one on a TV series, but, it appears to me, unless and until action is taken against Smiffy and Co within Canada by the relevant Canadian agencies, they will continue to operate with apparent impunity.

I would be EXTREMELY surprised if whoever really IS behind the Banners Broker fraud hasn't already moved to ensure any remaining funds have been moved into as many "untraceable" places as is possible.

One only has to look as far as Stepsys, Sills and the other serial pimps involved to know they, at least, aren't in the least concerned about the possibility of prosecution or the possibility of the level international co operation that would be needed to trace and prosecute the main players coming about, much less the reclaiming of any of the loot.

[Dreamstealer]

Read the terms of reference.
Driscoll gets costs only.
After that the liquidators decide if he is owed anything as a creditor.
You really think they will just give him $3million
Beacon is quite right. The liquidators cannot "prefer" his claim to other creditors. If I had put in $500 to BB and was now "owed" (according to BB) $100,000, I would be claiming $100k as a creditor. However the liquidator may decide to only give me $500, (or less if there are enough creditors) if he believes that there is no real business. But then Driscoll will only get his costs as well. It has been quite some time since I worked on a liquidation but I can assure you that the costs of the liquidators won't account for all of the $6m like some have said. Arguably might be $0.5m but probably less.

Also the liquidators have a legal duty to report to the authorities if they suspect a crime- eg fraud- has occurred. Don't expect them to tell us though as this would be a crime.

[Eponymous]

WTF are they doing that takes 10 days!?!?

[HARRISON]

WTF are they doing that takes 10 days!?!?

...packing?

[scamassassin007]

Banners Broker Ponzi Breaking Social Media T&Cs

*This Video Montage Is Factual Research & Very Interesting... By Dan Dare


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbZ6ziTZgsA&feature=youtu.be

[Beacon]

The order only applies to the corporation registered in the Isle of Man, i.e. Banners Broker International Pty Ltd.


Yes
1. There are very few actual companies and
2. The Isle of man courts have jurisdiction only over the Isle of Man companies.



It does NOT apply to any of the other Banners Broker entities registered elsewhere.


Of which ther are few.
A UK one with no resources as far as I know
An Indian one which was frozen and is still awaiting a court decision
A Canadian one which changed its name to stellar Point and does have some assets.
A Belize one which may or may not have some assets ~ I believe it does not.



The incorporations mean nothing in the overall scheme of things.


This is where I disagree with you.
BB used the fact that companies existed to recruit. When the one in India was frozen I believe that affected the overall scheme significantly.
If you dont think $6million is significant then fair enough but I would think it is significant.


IM(very)HO, the incorporated bodies are likely either "shelf companies" or shell companies


Including a shell company with $6million?



I would be EXTREMELY surprised if whoever really IS behind the Banners Broker fraud hasn't already moved to ensure any remaining funds have been moved into as many "untraceable" places as is possible.


And they might also have another $6million in Belize as they had in IoM? Or in Canada?



One only has to look as far as Stepsys, Sills and the other serial pimps involved to know they, at least, aren't in the least concerned about the possibility of prosecution or the possibility of the level international co operation that would be needed to trace and prosecute the main players coming about, much less the reclaiming of any of the loot.

Again we can't say that for sure. Im sure after the Crewe case if a criminal case follows Stepsys might have a different opinion.

[scamassassin007]

Smooth Sailing For Banners Broker! (!)

An Unhappy Start From Banners Broker's Own Facebook Page:

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31/q71/s720x720/1292276_217722858426372_456935816_o.jpg

[Beacon]

Banners Broker Ponzi Breaking Social Media T&Cs

*This Video Montage Is Factual Research & Very Interesting... By Dan Dare



I note Chris just at the end 3:40 says "we are looking to get fresh data/IDs" . It seems they have milked all they can from their old database so they are trying to relaunch with newer victims. The thing is, any relaunch will be tiny in comparison because people are more aware of the scam.

[HARRISON]

Oh Iain..thats just MEAN! Your NO fun..I'm gonna have to play somewhere else now:fishing_can:

7189

[Della Cate]

The "blackout" was postponned in order that a last payout was made (Payza/ - I forget), wasn't it?

However, the dimwitted affiliates seem to have forgotten about that. I haven't seen a single one of them saying "I got paid! Isn't everything marvellous? BB rocks!" - have you?

They've all been twittering on about the blackout and how V3 will be awesome! great! fantastic! solve all the problems! be more stable! etc. Not one has claimed a payout....probably because I reckon there weren't any.

Bit of a case of the bleedin' obvious, I suppose.

[Nourjan]

However, the dimwitted affiliates seem to have forgotten about that. I haven't seen a single one of them saying "I got paid! Isn't everything marvellous? BB rocks!" - have you?

They've all been twittering on about the blackout and how V3 will be awesome! great! fantastic! solve all the problems! be more stable! etc. Not one has claimed a payout....probably because I reckon there weren't any.

.


To be fair, there were a few that claimed to be paid in this latest batch.They did not mention the amount or since when the withdrawal have been pending save for one who gleefully cried that s/he was paid $194 ,take that as you may.

[littleroundman]

Again we can't say that for sure.

When dealing with internet based fraud and fraudsters, there is very little we can say "for sure"

[scamassassin007]

Pointy Finger Stepsys Has Moved On...

This will go down as another Simon Stepsys Classic!
The sheep gather for anticipation!
......................................... :loser:

http://youtu.be/l0ZTLmDM1aY

Toward The End... "FUTURE MILLIONAIRE" LINE Only Simon could pull off saying with such enthusiasm.

*Video by Dan Dare

[Beacon]

When dealing with internet based fraud and fraudsters, there is very little we can say "for sure"

:RpS_smile: Touché!
Mind you, based on the fact that they claim they have a "crack legal team" to deal with negative bloggers and that defamation cases will be taken and that NONE have I think we can say Banners Broker is a fraud for sure.

[Poyol]

"crack legal team"

I assumed they meant 'crap'.

[Ken Roklin]

Yes
1. There are very few actual companies and
2. The Isle of man courts have jurisdiction only over the Isle of Man companies.



Of which ther are few.
A UK one with no resources as far as I know
An Indian one which was frozen and is still awaiting a court decision
A Canadian one which changed its name to stellar Point and does have some assets.
A Belize one which may or may not have some assets ~ I believe it does not.



This is where I disagree with you.
BB used the fact that companies existed to recruit. When the one in India was frozen I believe that affected the overall scheme significantly.
If you dont think $6million is significant then fair enough but I would think it is significant.


Including a shell company with $6million?



And they might also have another $6million in Belize as they had in IoM? Or in Canada?



Again we can't say that for sure. Im sure after the Crewe case if a criminal case follows Stepsys might have a different opinion.

Again you are claiming Banners Brokers International and Stellar Point are the same companies. Nothing could be further from the truth. BBI has never registered a company in Canada. Stellar Point has had several name changes, from a numbered company before BBI was launched to Banners Broker Limited and then to Stellar Point. Chris Smith was never a Director of SP or Banners Broker Limited. While Raj was one of the main people behind BBI Chris never was a principal at SP. The only control Chris had over SP was the support (or whatever they called it) contract between the two companies.

BBI, the company, does not and cannot have a Canadian Bank account. Now maybe Chris has a few million in his personal account but I doubt he is that stupid to have money transferred from an offshore account to his personal account in Canada where authorities could seize it. The whole reason for having an offshore account is to avoid precisely that. The SP assets have absolutely nothing to do with BBI and can't be touched by BBI liquidators.

[laidback]

I assumed they meant 'crap'.
Silly me! I thought they meant their legal team was on crack...!

[scamassassin007]

I assumed they meant 'crap'.

Or.... Nose up Chris Smith's Crack?

[scamassassin007]

"Understanding the Migration" Webinar Today....

Here is the consensus!

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* Post Credit: Abigail Miller

[Fat City, LA]

Silly me! I thought they meant their legal team was on crack...!

I heard BB is using Doowe, Chetem, & How as their legal counsel.

[Beacon]

Again you are claiming Banners Brokers International and Stellar Point are the same companies.

No Im not and what do you mean by "again". I never claimed BBI and Stellar Point were the same company.

Banners Broker Inc. in Canada changed their name to Stellar Point.

There are two Banners Broker International one in Isle of Man and one in Belize. I never claimed anything that contradicts that. Where did I?



Nothing could be further from the truth. BBI has never registered a company in Canada.


Where did I claim they did?



Stellar Point has had several name changes, from a numbered company before BBI was launched to Banners Broker Limited and then to Stellar Point.


Given I think i was the first to post that Canadian companies information here, i never claimed anything different.


Chris Smith was never a Director of SP or Banners Broker Limited.


Never claimed he was did I?


While Raj was one of the main people behind BBI Chris never was a principal at SP. The only control Chris had over SP was the support (or whatever they called it) contract between the two companies.


I never claimed he was a shareholder or Director. It is quite clear however that Chris and Raj know each other and work together on the Banners Broker scam. It si clear because they both have implicated each other at various public meetings.


BBI, the company, does not and cannot have a Canadian Bank account.


It probably coud but that is beside the point. I never claimed BBI did have such an account. Money however was paid to both Chris and Raj and they both operated the BB scam. If there is money in SP or BBI accounts it is money that came from people they scammed.


Now maybe Chris has a few million in his personal account but I doubt he is that stupid to have money transferred from an offshore account to his personal account in Canada where authorities could seize it. The whole reason for having an offshore account is to avoid precisely that. The SP assets have absolutely nothing to do with BBI and can't be touched by BBI liquidators.

i never claimed the liquidator has control over SP but if any connection can be shown from Chris to Raj and any money associated with it it would constitute grounds for Canadian authorities to freeze Canadian accounts. that however is a separate action.

[Beacon]

We have already mentioned the Raj Dixit /Canadian companies and the Indian IoM and Belize
Here are some more in the UK jurisdiction
BANNERSBROKER UK LTD.
accounts not filed
Registered Address: Botanical House, 15 Guys Cliffe Road, Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, CV32 5BZ
accounts not filed
director and Secretary Ms Lesley Sequeira


MANAGING BANNERS BROKER LIMITED
accounts not filed
Registered Address: 4 Hitherwood Close, Reigate, RH2 0JJ
director
ESTHER PFEIFFER
4 Hitherwood Close, Reigate, England, RH2 0JJ

Esther is also director of BB Home Business Limited

BANNERS BROKER & SERVICES LTD

Registered Address: 38 Passfield Path, London, SE28 8BT

Directors: Alexander Anyanwu-Felix
Registered Address
38 Passfield Path
London
United Kingdom
SE28 8BT

Ebere Ekeh
Registered Address
38 Passfield Path
London
United Kingdom
SE28 8BT


BANNERS BROKER 4 BUSINESS LIMITED
accounts not filed
Registered Address: 39 Poachers Trail, Cyprus Point, Lytham, FY8 4FF
Director and Secretary Barry Costello-Monelle
39 Poachers Trail
Cyprus Point
Lytham
United Kingdom
FY8 4FF

[Beacon]

Again you are claiming Banners Brokers International and Stellar Point are the same companies. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I didnt claim they were the same companies but they ARE involved in the same scam.

Here is another opinion on that:
RevStar Global Review: Banners Broker rebooted? | BehindMLM (http://behindmlm.com/companies/revstar-global-review-banners-broker-rebooted/)


Listed as co-founders on the RevStar Global “Our Team” website page are Paul Redmayne (President) and David H. Hooker (Executive Vice-President).

Paul Redmayne was the President of Blue Bird Bids, a Zeek Rewards Ponzi clone that launched in late 2012.
More recently however, Hooker aligned himself with the Banners Broker Ponzi scheme as their “Director of Compliance”. Hooker held Banners Broker investor recruitment events, hosted corporate calls and appeared as an official spokesperson for the company.
...
Despite being presented as business partnerships with independent third-party merchants, it’s clear that RevStar Global’s “client” companies are being run by the company itself or someone involved with it.
...
No doubt the rest of RevStar Global’s “clients” are just sham websites set up by the company itself to market third-party affiliate offers. These businesses, as the independent third-party partner businesses they are portrayed to be, simply do not exist.
...
Given the involvement of RevStar Global management with Banners Broker and Blue Bird Bids, I can’t say I’m anything but surprised analysis of RevStar Global reveals yet another Ponzi scheme.


No surprises there but her is the point linking the likes of SP to BB


The final point of interest I’ll wrap up with, just in case the RevStar Global’s Ponzi ROI business model and sham “clients” wasn’t enough, is the involvement of Stellar Point Inc. in the opportunity.
...
Stellar Point Inc. is a name no doubt familiar to those who invested in Banners Broker. It is/was the front company set up for those running Banners Broker to hide behind when the scheme began to collapse.

Here’s RevStar Global co-founder David Hooker doing just that in July 2013: Quotes Hooker
"It is important to note that at no time has David ever been employed by BBI, nor has he been involved in any decision making process with that company. His contract is with Stellar Point Inc. and has the responsibility of developing support and development programs for many of Stellar Point’s clients, including BBI if so directed."

An “independent” contractor? Riiiiiiiiight.

I’ve already included one instance of Hooker pimping Banners Broker to prospective investors at the start of this review but hey, to save you scrolling all the way back up, here’s another: [photo supplied]
Different venue, same David Hooker pimping out the Banners Broker Ponzi scheme.

Does anyone really believe that Banners Broker and Stellar Point aren’t one and the same? For those of you familiar with TelexFree, think Ympactus.

In all probability Hooker is going to push the Stellar Point name on anything he claims is a third-party business, retaining RevStar Global for the Ponzi scheme. Then, when new investment dries up like it did it in Banners Broker, no doubt Hooker and friends will try to hide behind Stellar Point again.

Only this time around the facade might be a little more difficult to sell, given that Hooker himself is credited as the Co-founder and Executive Vice-President of RevStar Global. Maybe he’s an “independent” Co-founder and Executive Vice-President. They exist, right?

Now we know Raj Dixit , Hooker and Chris smith and others all appeared at BB pimping events. We have video and audio of them there.

In short NO they are not the same companies but YES they are related and monies owned by any of these companies could have originated with BB subscribers.
Yes it isn't for the UK courts to tell Canadian companies what to do but legal judgements in other (non Canadian) countries ARE taken as very serious evidence by foreign courts ( Canadian i.e. non UK) or enforcement agencies.

[Ken Roklin]

I didnt claim they were the same companies but they ARE involved in the same scam.



You did say:

“It does NOT apply to any of the other Banners Broker entities registered elsewhere.
Of which ther are few.
A UK one with no resources as far as I know
An Indian one which was frozen and is still awaiting a court decision
A Canadian one which changed its name to stellar Point and does have some assets.
A Belize one which may or may not have some assets ~ I believe it does not.

And they might also have another $6million in Belize as they had in IoM? Or in Canada?”

When one claims a foreign company has a Canadian entity called Stellar Point, I take that to mean BBI (the foreign company) owns or controls Stellar Point. What other conclusion could one come to other than that?

[scamassassin007]

IOM TODAY Headlines: "Creditors’ meeting over liquidation"

*A Local IOM news company published a Banners Broker update today: (BBI)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t31/q71/s720x720/1965464_218170821714909_1103751548_o.jpg (http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/isle-of-man-news/creditors-meeting-over-liquidation-1-6491036)

For The Entire Article: CLICK HERE (http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/isle-of-man-news/creditors-meeting-over-liquidation-1-6491036)

[Beacon]

You did say:

“It does NOT apply to any of the other Banners Broker entities registered elsewhere.


Correct Isle of man the court decision in the Isle of Man court on the Isle of Man registered Banners Broker International does not (note the words NOT in capitals) apply to any other Banners Broker related entity whether or not they called Banners Broker or anything else.
Correct. That is what I stated and that is what I meant.

How could you misconstrue that to mean I was claiming that Banners Broker International ( isle of Man or Belize) was a Canadian Company owned by Chris Smith?



Of which ther are few.
A UK one with no resources as far as I know
An Indian one which was frozen and is still awaiting a court decision
A Canadian one which changed its name to stellar Point and does have some assets.
A Belize one which may or may not have some assets ~ I believe it does not.


Yes I stated the above and i stand by all of it. It is all true.



And they might also have another $6million in Belize as they had in IoM? Or in Canada?”


They might but as I stated above I dont believe the Belize or canadian entities have $6million in their accounts.



When one claims a foreign company has a Canadian entity called Stellar Point, I take that to mean BBI (the foreign company) owns or controls Stellar Point. What other conclusion could one come to other than that?

I NEVER claimed Bannes Broker International was a Canadian company
Nor did I claim it Stellar Point or Banners Broker Canada was ever owned by Chris Smith.

If you "took it to mean" something then this is your own invention! One can not logically conclude I ever claimed Stellar Point or as it was formerly known ( Banners Broker Inc. Canada) was owned by chris Smith.

What I have stated however is that Banners Broker is a scam and Chris Smith Raj Dixit Hooker and some others are all clearly involved in this scam. If Stellar Point or BBI Belize does not have money in accounts then any accounts held by the main players should be looked into by the authorities.
It makes no difference to me personally who owns what company in spite of the fact that I didn't make the claim which you attribute to me. A record of involvement has been established.

[Ken Roklin]

How could you misconstrue that to mean I was claiming that Banners Broker International ( isle of Man or Belize) was a Canadian Company owned by Chris Smith?


I didn't misconstrue anything. You stated SP, Canada was a BBI registered entity. I guess there are many definitions of entity, but I think most people would conclude from that statement that if it is a BBI foreign entity, BBI owns/controls it.

Anyway, enough of this. Us debating this won't get these scammers behind bars where they belong.

[JackTolerance]

FINALLY! :RpS_thumbsup:

After a month of back and forth with my bank and after all my efforts to send them all the evidence I could (including of course about the liquidation proceedings), as of today my money has been credited back to me.

The moral of this story? If you know your rights and you are within the 540 day time frame with your chargeback claim, DON'T GIVE UP. I know I was in the right and I made damn sure to stand my ground. Banks clearly do not like trying to claw back money on your behalf, but we are not the ones in the wrong here. Banners Broker are.

So once again to Chris 'Smiffy' Smith and all his heinous minions of misery - You CAN all royally kiss my a** :butt_kisser:

Big shout out to Tara Talks, Tom Ferro, Dan Dare and everyone else who has been so helpful and diligent in their efforts to assist and inform others - keep up the great work, guys :whip_the_worker:

7197

[Della Cate]

Over on the BB Blog, more waffle.

Business??? I think that is stretching a point!

7201

They make "employment" sound like a dirty word, but I expect that more than one of them would be glad of a 9 to 5 job if they have squandered money on BB in the expectation of making a fortune whilst not having to go out to work!

[Brenda]

FINALLY! :RpS_thumbsup:

After a month of back and forth with my bank and after all my efforts to send them all the evidence I could (including of course about the liquidation proceedings), as of today my money has been credited back to me.

The moral of this story? If you know your rights and you are within the 540 day time frame with your chargeback claim, DON'T GIVE UP. I know I was in the right and I made damn sure to stand my ground. Banks clearly do not like trying to claw back money on your behalf, but we are not the ones in the wrong here. Banners Broker are.

So once again to Chris 'Smiffy' Smith and all his heinous minions of misery - You CAN all royally kiss my a** :butt_kisser:

Big shout out to Tara Talks, Tom Ferro, Dan Dare and everyone else who has been so helpful and diligent in their efforts to assist and inform others - keep up the great work, guys :whip_the_worker:

7197

So happy for you. Chargebacks, yeah, I can get my head around that process and you have proven that sticking to your guns can pay off. Equally as important though, is using this site to share that news. Thank you for endorsing what we do here and other sites like Tara's!

[Brenda]

Over on the BB Blog, more waffle.

Business??? I think that is stretching a point!

7201

They make "employment" sound like a dirty word, but I expect that more than one of them would be glad of a 9 to 5 job if they have squandered money on BB in the expectation of making a fortune whilst not having to go out to work!

I particularly like the ' some prefer to go to work to earn a paycheck every week or so, getting a paycheck!!?? Dear lord, are these employed people mad?? Who would want to be paid every week or so when they can wait a year, maybe more, probably never? Who would want to be an employee when they can be a Banners Broker whatever (!)

[Beacon]

I didn't misconstrue anything. You stated SP, Canada was a BBI registered entity.


No I did not! where did I state that?



I guess there are many definitions of entity,


I think I was quite clear about the legal definition of "entity" several times. In law a person may own things but a company is regarded as a person for legal purposes. Companies like people have the right to own money ,to hold bank accounts , to buy and sell etc.



but I think most people would conclude from that statement that if it is a BBI foreign entity, BBI owns/controls it.


where did I state that the company Banners Broker Canada or Stellar Point Canada was a BBI foreign entity?
firthermnore this is a different claim to them being the same company.

Banners Broker Canada is indeed the same company as Stellar Point. It is just a name change from one to the other. But not only did I never state that the BBI company owned SP ( which is your second claim about what I stated) I also never claimed BBI was SP ( your original claim).
I never claimed SP was a BBI "foreign entity"



enough of this. Us debating this won't get these scammers behind bars where they belong.

I think I have been quite clear about what I stated and I have clarified it several times but you are still claiming I stated something I clearly did not state!
There is no debate! I didn't state it and if you think I was not absolutely clear about it I subsequently several times told you clearly that I never stated it. If you continue to misconstrue what I stated then that is not my problem. If you can't accept that you read your own meaning into it that is not my problem. and if you think "enough of this" then simply don't post about it. I ahve to post about it since you are attributing things to me which I did not claim and have several times clarified what I did claim.

On the broader issue of people being involved in the same scam discussion SP, BBI etc. and who owns them might well result in assisting getting them behind bars. Personally I would prefer however rather than punish or react after the scam that people be aware of the scam before it happens.

[Beacon]

I particularly like the ' some prefer to go to work to earn a paycheck every week or so, getting a paycheck!!?? Dear lord, are these employed people mad?? Who would want to be paid every week or so when they can wait a year, maybe more, probably never? Who would want to be an employee when they can be a Banners Broker whatever (!)

To address the psychology of this:

i find it iroinic the general tone is one of "be free" and encouraging people to think and act for themselves. This is very like the neoconservative or Right Wing authoritarian Rhetoric. While they verbally encourage "personal freedom" these movements are filled with rules and regulations that the followers are forced to follow and punished if they don't. The rules also may be changed by the leaders at a whim. Look at how BB version two followers were dumped and forced to get twitter and conform to V3. Or how V1 people were told "passive income" and had to produce publicity and "work" for V2.

Right-wing authoritarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism)


Right-wing authoritarianism is defined by three attitudinal and behavioral clusters which correlate together:
Authoritarian submission — a high degree of submissiveness to the authorities who are perceived to be established and legitimate in the society in which one lives.
Authoritarian aggression — a general aggressiveness directed against deviants, outgroups, and other people that are perceived to be targets according to established authorities.
Conventionalism — a high degree of adherence to the traditions and social norms that are perceived to be endorsed by society and its established authorities, and a belief that others in one's society should also be required to adhere to these norms.

[scamassassin007]

Here is an interesting article in the (UK) Mirror that mentions Banners Broker and Flexcom and Highlights Ian Driscoll recent activities..

*Some of you may have seen this article. I thought it was interesting.


The 61-year-old from Skipton, North Yorks, is a former garage owner turned serial entrepreneur.



https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/q71/s720x720/1922263_218376235027701_1953618216_n.jpg

At the bottom of the Article I saw a post by our very own "LittkeRoundMan" :RpS_thumbsup:

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/q71/s720x720/1939596_218376411694350_453016732_n.jpg

For the full article CLICK HERE (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/andrew-penman-flexkom-really-the-3116205)

[scamassassin007]

Remember The Famous "OLDER COUPLE BB INTERVIEW VIDEO" That Ian Parker was responsible for?

View Ian Parker's Video (http://tinypic.com/r/2rcvb0l/8)

He keeps having the copies deleted

*Ian Defended this on a blog today...

Below were posts from: ----> Is Banner Brokers Still Going? (http://www.4networking.biz/Forum/ViewTopic/146670?Page=11)



Ian Parker:

OK... I have tried to not respond on this thread, but like so much material on the Internet, regarding Banners Broker and indeed myself, I feel that I am at least allowed to comment... again. Frederic, for your information, just to make it crystal clear, I offer the following. The couple shown in the still taken from my video are very good friends of mine. The still was taken from a video never used in the public domain. It was, as you correctly mentioned, originally uploaded onto my YouTube channel... it was never intended for public exposure. I recorded the couple in October 2012. I forgot to click the private settings back on that video, once it had been seen by my friends. Sadly,one of your friends copied the original and placed it onto two video sharing sites - both of whom have had to take it down due to breach of copyright. Before it was removed from the last site, some graphics were added, which questioned the validity of my friends having a Social Media account. For your information, my friends have Twitter, Facebook and other Social Media. I find it rather patronising and if I may say ageist, that you assume a couple in their 80's/90's would not have any form of Social Media. I do not have to share this information with you Frederic, but I want you to see the error of your statements. The couple have a son living overseas,and the couple contact their son via Skype... yes they have Skype too!! They shared Twiiter messages only today and the gentleman himself connects with his grandchildren via Facebook The initial video recording took place at their home as previously mentioned in October 2012. During that filming session, the gentleman showed the camera his Banners Broker pre-payment card, where he had his initial earnings sent to. I feel sure that the Gentleman concerned will not mind me sharing that he received his first $1,000 back in 2012, having orginally purchased a Green package for $415 The Gentleman and I speak approximately onnce a week, depending on what he is doing... oh again, just for clarity purposes, I did not recruit/sponsor the Gentleman concerned, but like the team leader I am, realised that the Gentleman may require more of my time, than some. Not true!! This Gentleman and his wife have a sharper business mind that I probably have. Now the video you have of me, is for public consumption and so I have to take the risk of being ridiculed by some annonymous people who are strongly against Banners Broker. In summation... I have no problem with people criticising Banners Broker, but what I do object to is the annoymous attacks on My wife, My self, members of Banners Broker and the company it'self. When promoting Banners Broker or any business I'm associated with, it's always with genuine honesty, sharing my picture, my home address, my phone number etc. I cannot counter any agrument because I simply have no idea who you are!! OK., Frederic.. I have cleared up the wrongful parts of your statements and I will leave this thread alone.... unless I see more incorrect information, that surely I'm allowed to comment on! Cheers - See more at: Is Banner Brokers Still Going? (http://www.4networking.biz/Forum/ViewTopic/146670?Page=11#sthash.MHFz3nFs.dpuf)






One Of The Replies:

Ian, as usual you are slightly twisting things. I looked up Peter's facebook profile and found this Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting (http://tinypic.com/r/2i6dgty/8) As you can see, Peter is not fully competent on facebook and needed a guiding hand from his grandchild. It is not unreasonable to assume people in their eighties and nineties would find social media difficult to use, I have relatives in the same age range who certainly have no clue how to use social media and after being on facebook for a several years rarely see anyone in that age group. The fact remains, Ian, you have recruited people, you do have elderly people in your team and Banners Broker is a Ponzi. The Liquidator will investigate Banners Broker International Belize and so there is a very real chance the house of cards will soon meet its demise, after which criminal proceedings are likely. Please, Ian, I don’t know if you saw this earlier in the thread so I will say it again; what are your thoughts on phoenix companies and with that in mind the relationship between Belize, UK and Isle of Man. I will give you a hint, all three countries have the same head of state. - See more at: Is Banner Brokers Still Going? (http://www.4networking.biz/Forum/ViewTopic/146670?Page=11#sthash.MHFz3nFs.dpuf)



Just one of many example of how these BB leaders can lie or stretch the truth so long as they make money. Funny how they are scrambling to erase their tracks just as Alan Sill s is.

[Della Cate]

Now here's a new FB group people could join.......so far it is an open group.......these people need a bit of education on the reality of BB methinks......Interesting to see who the members are, I bet it is a case of "round up the usual suspects"!

But then, I somehow feel they don't want to face the truth. Sadly.

This seems to be the leading admin on the group, anyone know him? He's Australian.

https://www.facebook.com/garth.whitney

Here is the group:-

https://www.facebook.com/groups/118202298378442/

[scamassassin007]

Everything At Banners Broker Is Top Notch!

This is the Credit Card authorization that BB has issued.

There isn't even a header...

Do they think that this will prevent Chargebacks?

I have never had to fill out a form like this for an online purchase or subscription.
Usually the checkout from the merchant account gateway or the payment processor handles this step usually with a check box.
They also capture your IP address and have other security measures.

Sign twice?

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1978776_609778605765038_1533530199_n.jpg

Banners Broker Affiliate Response CLICK HERE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rooPPLtK9pg)


I bet BB will rush to change this after seeing this post.


*Credit to Tara of the BB Ponzi Scam FB Page

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Banners-Broker-Ponzi-Scam/398614356881465

[littleroundman]

This seems to be the leading admin on the group, anyone know him? He's Australian.

https://www.facebook.com/garth.whitney

http://imageshack.com/a/img829/3417/py25.jpg

Garth Whitneys' garth.whitney page on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/garth.whitney)

http://imageshack.com/a/img32/8723/5lxh.jpg

Garth Whitneys' "Slayer" profile on IBOToolbox (http://www.ibosocial.com/Slayer)

http://imageshack.com/a/img31/8813/qobb.jpg

Garth Whitneys' garthwhitney.com (http://garthwhitney.com/) website

http://imageshack.com/a/img59/6840/7w45.jpg

Garth Whitneys' garth-whitney profile on LinkedIn (http://au.linkedin.com/pub/garth-whitney/33/733/656)

[scamassassin007]

Typical Purchase or Subscription checkout:
No Form To Sign:
http://zacharyc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/creditcard_checkout.png

[Beacon]

Typical Purchase or Subscription checkout:
No Form To Sign:
http://zacharyc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/creditcard_checkout.png

(!) Ah that explains it then. BB couldn't do this because they think PayPal are ripoff merchants and they just couldn't have PayPal on their forms. Except Terry stern of course who uses it for his jewelery business.

[dutyman]

(!) Ah that explains it then. BB couldn't do this because they think PayPal are ripoff merchants and they just couldn't have PayPal on their forms. Except Terry stern of course who uses it for his jewelery business.

BB operates with payment processors. Therefore any such 'form' that BB tries to use in respect of payments through a third party would be non binding, meaningless and a waste of energy even for them......in other words, a piece of meaningless Consolidated Reissued Administrative Pap.

This implies that Smithy is trying to carry out his own legal work using advice from the net somewhere and is not in sufficient funds to afford legal advice from a solicitor/lawyer....after all, look at the 'quality' of the actual document.

If you were in the position of filling the form in in the misguided belief that you will be paid, you may choose to use a card that will expire within the chargeback period of 540 days so that the error may be corrected when you hit the chargeback trail. The form states that your 'authorisation' will be valid until the card expires.....of course, if you realise that BB is a scam, you can apply before that as discussed ad infinitum

[JackTolerance]

I think this could be Chris Smith's new logo for Banners Broker. It's certainly apt in it's visual representation, I feel


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[scamassassin007]

I think this could be Chris Smith's new logo for Banners Broker. It's certainly apt in it's visual representation, I feel





@ Steve...

I'll have a McSCAM sandwich and a side of BS please... Hold the excuses!

[Fendaril]

This thread is getting way to long and brutally funny.

How much longer does this have?

[scamassassin007]

Coming Soon!

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/1939973_218679264997398_427228313_n.jpg

[Fat City, LA]

This thread is getting way to long and brutally funny.

How much longer does this have?

Sad to say. Its years from blackout. Some scams die screaming like Zeek, PS. Other go with a wimper.

[scamassassin007]

Is Ian Parker Back-Peddling Or Just Another Lie?

He claims he never promoted Banners Broker on this site but has posted his videos, BB propaganda, and even has his link as BB link as his signature.
Could this be the wave of the future for BB Leaders?

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31/q71/s720x720/1614609_218717701660221_1703416855_o.jpg

Source: At What Point Do You Remove A Member From The Forum. (http://www.4networking.biz/Forum/ViewTopic/148777?page=2)

Many Other Posts: http://www.4networking.biz/Forum/ViewTopic/146670?page=7#p1103211



POST Quote:

Bumf / Bum / Butt similar words, hence the song I posted. That post was not aimed at anyone and was just a play on words. Banners Broker is not a business, it is a Ponzi. Promoting Ponzi schemes is illegal in this country. Ian Parker continually sings the praises of Banners Broker and has recruited people. If anyone feels it is acceptable to draw elderly people into Ponzi schemes while trying to paint a picture of a legitimate business then they deserve everything they get. Many people have gotten in way above their heads and deposited their life savings into Banners Broker - some even think of Banners Broker as an alternative to a retirement fund. So, no, I make no apologies and seek to tackle head on the propaganda Ian Parker spouts.






Ian Parker:

Hi Frederic, I have been a member of 4N since 2102 and during that time I have served the local community of 4N having been at two meetings a week for the length of my passport. I became a member of the team, starting off as a Marketing Assistant, then moving onto the position of Group Leader for one of the meetings. I withdrew from public 4N shortly after Banners Broker lost the use of the MasterCard... I decided that it was not necessarily right of me to promote Banners Broker until I was happy with it. I have been on the forum since 2012 and have (hopefully) played my part in the 4N team spirit, offering ideas, thoughts, testimonials and recommendations. Frederic, I need you to understand something... I have NEVER, repeat NEVER promoted Banners Broker on the forum. Yes I have supported Banners Broker under scrutiny from fellow members. To promote your business on the forum, the etquette is to place your 'advertisement' in a special section within the forum - please do go and check, you will not see a post from me! During the last 18 months, there has been two/three major threads concerning Banners Broker. During this time, I have tried to answer, to the best of my knowledge, what I believe. Frederick, some people have joined 4N with the sole intention of destroying (I can think of no other word) Banners Broker... This is a business forum, where members support each other and sometimes we disagree... The one thing we all have for each other is respect! Whilst we may disagree on subjects there is a common thread of respect. This thread is not about Banners Broker, so possibly not the right thread for me to comment on, but to throw accusations against me is distasteful to say the least. As mentioned in the other thread, I have no problem with challenges to Banners Broker, so long as you come clean and reveal yourself and what is your major challenge with the company - after all what do you have to hide from? Frederick, you have made some sweeping allegations concerning me and Banners Broker, I have no idea how long you intend staying around, but please can I ask that you support your claims with facts and not hearsay, Internet gossip. Ian

..............................................:los er:

http://s2.dmcdn.net/DXgfA/x240-gU0.jpg





Now look at the BB promotional Video under his post:

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31.0-8/1920943_218720164993308_692753859_o.jpg

[Whip]

well, he doubled back and made the lame excuse that he has 'never done it during a conversation on that board'. lol. such a jackass.

[Brenda]

Is Ian Parker Back-Peddling Or Just Another Lie?

He claims he never promoted Banners Broker on this site but has posted his videos, BB propaganda, and even has his link as BB link as his signature.
Could this be the wave of the future for BB Leaders?

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31/q71/s720x720/1614609_218717701660221_1703416855_o.jpg


Source: At What Point Do You Remove A Member From The Forum. (http://www.4networking.biz/Forum/ViewTopic/148777?page=2)

Many Other Posts: Is Banner Brokers Still Going? (http://www.4networking.biz/Forum/ViewTopic/146670?page=7#p1103211)






Now look at the BB promotional Video under his post:

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31.0-8/1920943_218720164993308_692753859_o.jpg


I don't care what he says, the minute his finger pressed the record button he confirmed his place on the scumbag list. Actually, the minute the idea to record these elderly people came into his head, he confirmed his place on the scumbag list. There are no if's buts or maybes regarding that video's intent. By the end of the week he'll be claiming that his recorder somehow fell into his lap, the record button hitting off his tea cup during a random conversation about BB, with perfect camera views and recorded a completely unrehearsed conversation while he was completely distracted by a flying pig on it's way to collect a pot of gold from the end of a rainbow! Oh those unicorns and fairies at BB and how they can make you do the most out of character things (!)

It's b@#$$x, we know it, he knows it, he knows we know it. Keep up the good fight guys, would hate to think that these rats sleep well too !

[scamassassin007]

I don't care what he says, the minute his finger pressed the record button he confirmed his place on the scumbag list. Actually, the minute the idea to record these elderly people came into his head, he confirmed his place on the scumbag list. There are no if's buts or maybes regarding that video's intent. By the end of the week he'll be claiming that his recorder somehow fell into his lap, the record button hitting off his tea cup during a random conversation about BB, with perfect camera views and recorded a completely unrehearsed conversation while he was completely distracted by a flying pig on it's way to collect a pot of gold from the end of a rainbow! Oh those unicorns and fairies at BB and how they can make you do the most out of character things (!)

It's b@#$$x, we know it, he knows it, he knows we know it. Keep up the good fight guys, would hate to think that these rats sleep well too !


@ Brenda.. This Video?


Remember The Famous "OLDER COUPLE BB INTERVIEW VIDEO" That Ian Parker was responsible for?

*Ian Defended this on a blog (Re-Post)...



Ian Parker:

OK... I have tried to not respond on this thread, but like so much material on the Internet, regarding Banners Broker and indeed myself, I feel that I am at least allowed to comment... again. Frederic, for your information, just to make it crystal clear, I offer the following. The couple shown in the still taken from my video are very good friends of mine. The still was taken from a video never used in the public domain. It was, as you correctly mentioned, originally uploaded onto my YouTube channel... it was never intended for public exposure. I recorded the couple in October 2012. I forgot to click the private settings back on that video, once it had been seen by my friends. Sadly,one of your friends copied the original and placed it onto two video sharing sites - both of whom have had to take it down due to breach of copyright. Before it was removed from the last site, some graphics were added, which questioned the validity of my friends having a Social Media account. For your information, my friends have Twitter, Facebook and other Social Media. I find it rather patronising and if I may say ageist, that you assume a couple in their 80's/90's would not have any form of Social Media. I do not have to share this information with you Frederic, but I want you to see the error of your statements. The couple have a son living overseas,and the couple contact their son via Skype... yes they have Skype too!! They shared Twiiter messages only today and the gentleman himself connects with his grandchildren via Facebook The initial video recording took place at their home as previously mentioned in October 2012. During that filming session, the gentleman showed the camera his Banners Broker pre-payment card, where he had his initial earnings sent to. I feel sure that the Gentleman concerned will not mind me sharing that he received his first $1,000 back in 2012, having orginally purchased a Green package for $415 The Gentleman and I speak approximately onnce a week, depending on what he is doing... oh again, just for clarity purposes, I did not recruit/sponsor the Gentleman concerned, but like the team leader I am, realised that the Gentleman may require more of my time, than some. Not true!! This Gentleman and his wife have a sharper business mind that I probably have. Now the video you have of me, is for public consumption and so I have to take the risk of being ridiculed by some annonymous people who are strongly against Banners Broker. In summation... I have no problem with people criticising Banners Broker, but what I do object to is the annoymous attacks on My wife, My self, members of Banners Broker and the company it'self. When promoting Banners Broker or any business I'm associated with, it's always with genuine honesty, sharing my picture, my home address, my phone number etc. I cannot counter any agrument because I simply have no idea who you are!! OK., Frederic.. I have cleared up the wrongful parts of your statements and I will leave this thread alone.... unless I see more incorrect information, that surely I'm allowed to comment on! Cheers - See more at: Is Banner Brokers Still Going?






One Of The Replies:

Ian, as usual you are slightly twisting things. I looked up Peter's facebook profile and found this Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting As you can see, Peter is not fully competent on facebook and needed a guiding hand from his grandchild. It is not unreasonable to assume people in their eighties and nineties would find social media difficult to use, I have relatives in the same age range who certainly have no clue how to use social media and after being on facebook for a several years rarely see anyone in that age group. The fact remains, Ian, you have recruited people, you do have elderly people in your team and Banners Broker is a Ponzi. The Liquidator will investigate Banners Broker International Belize and so there is a very real chance the house of cards will soon meet its demise, after which criminal proceedings are likely. Please, Ian, I don’t know if you saw this earlier in the thread so I will say it again; what are your thoughts on phoenix companies and with that in mind the relationship between Belize, UK and Isle of Man. I will give you a hint, all three countries have the same head of state. - See more at: Is Banner Brokers Still Going?



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The Video That He Would Like To Forget:

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/1004535_218745638324094_1413882753_n.jpg

View Ian Parker's Video (http://tinypic.com/r/2rcvb0l/8) <-------- MAKE COPIES

He keeps having the copies deleted

ARE YOU AFRAID OF HISTORY IAN?

***Just one of many examples of how these BB leaders can lie or stretch the truth so long as they make money. Funny how they are scrambling to erase their tracks just as Alan Sill s is.

Poor Ian
........................:loser:
http://www.realscam.com/attachments/f8/6740-banners-broker-hyip-ponzi-scam-screen-shot-2014-01-02-21.35.35.jpg

*He Hates History To Be Recorded!

We Have More Copies Of All Your Videos Ian...

Just In Case The Authorities Would Like To See Them...

[Brenda]

@ Brenda.. This Video?



Poor Ian
........................:loser:
http://www.realscam.com/attachments/f8/6740-banners-broker-hyip-ponzi-scam-screen-shot-2014-01-02-21.35.35.jpg

*He Hates History To Be Recorded!

We Have More Copies Of All Your Videos Ian...

Just In Case The Authorities Would Like To See Them...

Ermm yep, replied to the wrong post but the sentiment remains! Whoops :)

[Beacon]

He claims he never promoted Banners Broker on this site but has posted his videos, BB propaganda, and even has his link as BB link as his signature.
Could this be the wave of the future for BB Leaders?

[B]Now look at the BB promotional Video under his post:

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31.0-8/1920943_218720164993308_692753859_o.jpg

I note you now have others eventually accepting court evidence was posted but they were expecting a Perry Mason "exposeé"

I would ask what them mean by an "exposee 2nd wht they expected from the evidence.
and then point out the following to them:
1. Perry Mason was a DEFENCE attorney not a prosecutor
2. In addition to the Isle of Man court records ther are
A. Indian court records of Banners Broker Assets frozen in India The District and Subordinate Judiciary of North Goa (http://northgoacourts.nic.in/) search under party name bento for 2013 and court comples Panaj
B. Irish Banners Broker collapse Get rich quick scheme leaves 15,000 out of pocket | Irish Examiner (http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/scheme-leaves-15000-out-of-pocket-242663.html)
c. FBI file on Banners Broker/Allied Wallet ...FBI &mdash; Payment Processors Agree to Forfeit More Than $13 Million in Funds Traced to Money Laundering and Online Gambling (http://www.fbi.gov/newyork/press-releases/2010/nyfo081710b.htm)
D. US Federal agency close BB credit line Banners Broker payza accounts locked in America by Homeland Security.
E. compliance Director" for Banners Broker (who hasn't a clue about compliance ) David Hooker | LinkedIn (http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhhooker)
does not even mention BB on his linkedin!
f. March 13th, 2013, a year ago the Banner Brokers Prepaid "Mastercard" program Vector Card Services Limited withdrawn from Banners Broker.
G. Canadian Banners Broker Director has a history in Ponzi and non compliance e.g.
KIBOTEC INC. (company number 7325568), Care of: RAJIV DIXIT, 119 NORLAND CIRCLE, OSHAWA ON, L1L 0A7
ICF World Homes ICF-World homes... Scam? - Page 2 - WORLD Law Direct Forums (http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/internet-hyip-scams/14537-icf-world-homes-scam-2.html)

Look them up https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpSrch.html?locale=en_CA
And the fact that he changed the name of Banners Broker to Stellar Point

Perry Mason Theme Song (http://www.televisiontunes.com/Perry_Mason.html)

I think maybe he meant "Ironside" :loser:

Ironside (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironside_%28TV_series%29)


The show revolved around former San Francisco Police Department (SFPD) Chief of Detectives


Thats who we need not Perry Mason

[littleroundman]

In summation... I have no problem with people criticising Banners Broker, but what I do object to is the annoymous attacks on My wife, My self, members of Banners Broker and the company it'self. When promoting Banners Broker or any business I'm associated with, it's always with genuine honesty, sharing my picture, my home address, my phone number etc.

IOW,

"It's OK for me to use my picture my home address and phone number and my wife to build an image of being a caring, sharing trustworthy fellow while I simultaneously promote and profit from my participation in a multi million dollar international fraud which has not paid its' members for over 15 months,

BUT,

"it's NOT OK for anyone else to point out I'm using my picture my home address and phone number and my wife to promote and profit from my participation in a multi million dollar international fraud which has not paid its' members for over 15 months"

[Beacon]

IOW,

"It's OK for me to use my picture my home address and phone number and my wife to build an image of being a caring, sharing trustworthy fellow while I simultaneously promote and profit from my participation in a multi million dollar international fraud which has not paid its' members for over 15 months,

BUT,

"it's NOT OK for anyone else to point out I'm using my picture my home address and phone number and my wife to promote and profit from my participation in a multi million dollar international fraud which has not paid its' members for over 15 months"

Correct. Apparently it is NOT okay for anyone to point out he is promoting a scam if he doesn't actually mention the now almost dead and therefore not making him any money scam himself now in another forum where he is promoting newer similar schemes. Apparently Ian does not believe that ones history or reputation in promoting scams in the past is important . But he would say that wouldn't he ? I mean he is the one who was promoting the scam isn't he so why wouldn't he try to invent a standard of "ignore the past" when his "you are exploiting peoples personal lives" excuse was exposed by showing it was him exploring peoples personal lives to promote a scam?

[scamassassin007]

Correct. Apparently it is NOT okay for anyone to point out he is promoting a scam if he doesn't actually mention the now almost dead and therefore not making him any money scam himself now in another forum where he is promoting newer similar schemes. Apparently Ian does not believe that ones history or reputation in promoting scams in the past is important . But he would say that wouldn't he ? I mean he is the one who was promoting the scam isn't he so why wouldn't he try to invent a standard of "ignore the past" when his "you are exploiting peoples personal lives" excuse was exposed by showing it was him exploring peoples personal lives to promote a scam?+


Beacon I agree with you regarding the company. But *IN MY OPINION* I think the Banners Broker Leaders are also just as guilty for the lies and promoting a scam while not telling the whole truth. Ian Parker had promotional videos with BB claims of financial utopia. He and others never mentioned that Banners Broker had not been paying nor did he mention any of the issues that have plagued Banners Broker. He never mentioned the weekly lies ot the heavy-handedness in the treatment of the affiliates. (Frozen accounts, being kicked out of forums and skye rooms, name calling, etc.) Let's not forget the cash payments either. Even when Banners Broker changes the rules, Leaders like Mark Ghobril, Simon Stepsys, and others figured out a loop hole and would pass the panels down though the ranks and would accept cash. Their own downlines are currently either going to court and or going to the FBI and the State's attorney Generals office as they have some forward on facebook.

Alan Sills and others who has promoted Banners Broker as Passive and have used just about every dirty little word that the U.S. SEC does not want you to say without a Securities License: Passive, Investing, Pension, etc. Now they want to delete history. By the way, the long arm of the U.S. applies to anyone violating these laws even if you are from another country and you promote an "investment" to a U.S. citizen. You can not promise or imply a "return on investment"

http://www.sec.gov/answers/ponzi.htm

https://www.finra.org/Investors/ProtectYourself/InvestorAlerts/FraudsAndScams/P118010

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/financialcareers/08/selling-securities.asp

Promoting a business having a return or as an investment even by comparison is wrong. Comparing to a "PENSION" is just not right.


These "LEADERS" think they can erase history by deleting the facts or the proof of their naughty deeds.

These "LEADERS" have a history of scams and most are on their next round of scamming. They do not wan't their names tarnished yet would like free reign to promote or say what ever they want to get others to join their current scam. These individuals are toxic to even a potential good program as they the the numbers and know how to cheat people and the system. These "LEADERS" need to be responsible for their actions.

Case in point: Dr. Lieven Van Neste, known to many as Dr. Scam or Lieven Van Nasty. Funny how these guys love the programs with a front end leaders bonus or "QUICK PAY" incentive. Lieven has an uncanny way of picking the scams and figuring out the best way to milk it before it collapses.

So please keep in mind, the authorities can go after individuals, not just the company. There is also civil court if the "VICTIMS" would like to seek action against the scammers.




Re: littleroundman comment:

IOW,

"It's OK for me to use my picture my home address and phone number and my wife to build an image of being a caring, sharing trustworthy fellow while I simultaneously promote and profit from my participation in a multi million dollar international fraud which has not paid its' members for over 15 months,

BUT,

"it's NOT OK for anyone else to point out I'm using my picture my home address and phone number and my wife to promote and profit from my participation in a multi million dollar international fraud which has not paid its' members for over 15 months"



I agree and would like to add:

These BB LEADERS: are (In My Opinion) self made celebrities. As LRM stated, they also put themselves out there with their pictures and information. They can't have it both ways and get their PONZI cake and eat it too. The information and statements they provide (In My Opinion) is public domain. They want to get away with murder when it comes to posting crap true or not true. But hate forums like this and on facebook that exposes them for what they really are. People are allowed to post satire and review videos. It is done all the time. Ian and other cry foul to youtube for copyright infringement. It could be argued that he himself made his celebrity "SCAM" status.

Another case in point is Mark Ghobril, who has had websites (currently not paid for) that claimed he was a multi-millionaire. Yet he is currently going through foreclosure. He posted pictures of himself all over the internet and loved being in the limelight. His foreclosure is public information and it was his oen downline that exposed him on facebook. He could very well possibly be defrauding the government as he may not have claimed all of his income and falsified foreclosure and other documents.

I do not blame everyone who joined or promoted BB in the past. I do think those who have promoted BB especially in the last few months knowing their were issues and giving false hope to many knowing that they would probably lose their money is wrong. Ian Parker has bragged about his payment sin other forums while most were not getting paid. I would bet most of the BB Scam Scumbags are in special favor with Chris Smith and getting payments to promote BB.

These BB Leaders want to erase their Ponzi tracks. Few of the BB leaders ever focused or talked about the "PRODUCT" as BB now claims.


_________________________________________________


Hopefully when scammers like Ian Parker post and promote their scams, Youtube and other sites will have a disclaimer:

................................. SCAM
http://scammer419.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/warning_animated.gif

[scamassassin007]

Please Sit Down For This.....

Banners Broker Gives Advice On tHe Best Advertising To Choose From:

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1978912_610384545704444_1666555316_n.jpg

"Do you offer REAL advertising"?

Should have been a better question.

Using BB traffic: Beacon... Please watch this new video and give us a report: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6jgnMUJ70M&feature=youtu.be

More fantasies and illusions in BB Land... :onloo:

[Beacon]

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Beacon I agree with you regarding the company. But *IN MY OPINION* I think the Banners Broker Leaders are also just as guilty for the lies and promoting a scam while not telling the whole truth.


Never claimed they werent. Well guilty but maybe "just as guilty" is a bit much. We are kind of in the "I drove an Ambulance in WWII" excuses when they guy may not have operated gas chambers but was an ardent Nazi supporter.



Ian Parker had promotional videos with BB claims of financial utopia. He and others never mentioned that Banners Broker had not been paying nor did he mention any of the issues that have plagued Banners Broker. He never mentioned the weekly lies ot the heavy-handedness in the treatment of the affiliates. (Frozen accounts, being kicked out of forums and skye rooms, name calling, etc.) Let's not forget the cash payments either. Even when Banners Broker changes the rules, Leaders like Mark Ghobril, Simon Stepsys, and others figured out a loop hole and would pass the panels down though the ranks and would accept cash. Their own downlines are currently either going to court and or going to the FBI and the State's attorney Generals office as they have some forward on facebook.


And thanks to you and others people have the evidence of this.


Alan Sills and others who has promoted Banners Broker as Passive and have used just about every dirty little word that the U.S. SEC does not want you to say without a Securities License: Passive, Investing, Pension, etc. Now they want to delete history. By the way, the long arm of the U.S. applies to anyone violating these laws even if you are from another country and you promote an "investment" to a U.S. citizen. You can not promise or imply a "return on investment"


Again the evidence is there because of you, RS and similar sites. However ( and i havent said this before) Stepsys Sills etc. should just ( suppose) maybe have all their money taken from them and do say a year but the leaders should be banged upi for a good few years. I do think the people running the show ore worse. Note also the IoM case is CIVIL so none have been convicted of a crime. YET

[scamassassin007]

Again the evidence is there because of you, RS and similar sites. However ( and i havent said this before) Stepsys Sills etc. should just ( suppose) maybe have all their money taken from them and do say a year but the leaders should be banged upi for a good few years. I do think the people running the show ore worse. Note also the IoM case is CIVIL so none have been convicted of a crime. YET

YET is the word of the day!

http://www.desi44.com/d/best_of_luck/best_of_luck_020.jpg

[Della Cate]

These people don't stick to one thing for long, do they? Once the first things starts to go down the pan, they are on to the next! And it is always the thing they are currently involved with that is SOOO great, this is it, the big one, the route to riches!

Until that also starts to go down the pan, of course. And then they go flat out denying that they were ever involved with it, no, not really, not them, they never promoted it, we must be mistaken or being deliberately mischevious.

But here is our old friend, Mark Stokes, having a steak in the USA. And who is that with him?

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Yes, it is none other than Mark Ghobril! Posing nicely while he promotes IML! What, no Banners Broker??

Funny too how there seems to be a small gang of these people, all drifting from one questionable venture to the next. On the plus side, I think it is helpful in that it keeps them together, so when others see them involved with something, they can steer clear of it.

[scamassassin007]

These people don't stick to one thing for long, do they? Once the first things starts to go down the pan, they are on to the next! And it is always the thing they are currently involved with that is SOOO great, this is it, the big one, the route to riches!

Until that also starts to go down the pan, of course. And then they go flat out denying that they were ever involved with it, no, not really, not them, they never promoted it, we must be mistaken or being deliberately mischevious.

But here is our old friend, Mark Stokes, having a steak in the USA. And who is that with him?

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Yes, it is none other than Mark Ghobril! Posing nicely while he promotes IML! What, no Banners Broker??

Funny too how there seems to be a small gang of these people, all drifting from one questionable venture to the next. On the plus side, I think it is helpful in that it keeps them together, so when others see them involved with something, they can steer clear of it.

The T-Shirts should read: "LIARS CLUB"

[scamassassin007]

This announcement was posted by the Admin of the "Banners Broker Ponzi Scam FB Page"




The police in Toronto are contacting affiliates asking for details of non-payments.
Please contact them directly if you'd like to report Chris and BB:

His name is Detective Chad Nickles of the Toronto police financial crimes unit.
Tel: 1-416-808-7327





If anyone is from Canada or if you have factual information can you comment of this recent development?

Source: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Banners-Broker-Ponzi-Scam/398614356881465

[Joe_Shmoe]

I see some of our old friends are now considered "leaders" Mark Ghobril, Martin Wilde, & little Jamie Waters.

I dont know who the other "leaders" are.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwjjEtYss8E

[Whip]

I see some of our old friends are now considered "leaders" Mark Ghobril, Martin Wilde, & little Jamie Waters.


well, yeah. Lead ya to the poor house.

[scamassassin007]

I see some of our old friends are now considered "leaders" Mark Ghobril, Martin Wilde, & little Jamie Waters.

I dont know who the other "leaders" are.




Hard to tell that Karen and Mark apart. Very Annoying Voice!!!!

I noticed they did not talk about payments, issues, or the lies. Also... Mark did not mention the cash payments he received.

Tell us more about your Foreclosure Mark? True Story?

The rest are blowing the BB Bullshit Horn!




Summarized Comments:


"STAY THE COURSE... "DO IT AGAIN.. AND AGAIN... AND AGAIN"

"MAKE BANNERS BROKER GREAT AGAIN"

"Failure is always guaranteed for those who are FAILURE conscious"




Are these people on the same planet as the rest of us?

I think the biggest difference about the push for social media is more unknowing victims to SCAM.

Get Your BB Sick Bags out before you lsiten to this Bullshit!

PATHETIC!

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/q71/s720x720/1969271_218955228303135_832105450_n.jpg

[scamassassin007]

I heard someone sketched this during the last Banners Broker webinar

I think this picture shows truth while summarizing the situation!.


https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/1975251_218960131635978_531862045_n.jpg

The sheep keep coming back for more!

[scamassassin007]

I am no fashion guru..

But is one were successful in Banners Broker would't you buy a new shirt after 2 or 3 years?

Remember Steve Dawson?
He was the famous Banners Broker GUARANTEE Guy!
(Another one that wants to delete history!)

SEE COPY:
http://bannersbrokerscam.vidmeup.com/view?q=53248bf4bd281.flv?q=53248bf4bd281.flv

With all his BB Success money you would think he could buy a NEW SHIRT!
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31.0-8/q71/s720x720/1796064_219218954943429_2126054998_o.jpg

He still wears the same shirt on his new SCAM video and SCAM page:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1970584_219220034943321_1391716628_n.jpg

See for yourself His Website (http://www.5x5map.com/join/):

Another "Million Dollar Per Year Program From Steve" http://www.5x5map.com/go/?ref=31

A little lightning difference and nobody will know... Still the same old thing! The same with BB3 right?

Update Credit: Dan Dare

[scamassassin007]

Well.. The same style of wardrobe. All BB people look good in STRIPES!

He definitely looks like a MILLIONAIRE?

[Whip]

Well.. The same style of wardrobe.

He's wearing pauper plaid.

[Della Cate]

I have a question.

Has anyone else noticed that, when BB has the "Tesla Giveaway".... they are also going to have a party?

Well, how do you have a party over the internet with a website that is in blackout mode? I mean, who buys the party snacks, will there be dancing, do the affiliates have to bring a bottle, and are they going to play party games like Pass the Green Panel and Pin the Tail on Alan Sills?

I am fascinated to see how they manage this one.

[Beacon]

These people don't stick to one thing for long, do they? Once the first things starts to go down the pan, they are on to the next! And it is always the thing they are currently involved with that is SOOO great, this is it, the big one, the route to riches!

Until that also starts to go down the pan, of course. And then they go flat out denying that they were ever involved with it, no, not really, not them, they never promoted it, we must be mistaken or being deliberately mischevious.



This to me is a point of fundamental importance!

It suggests there is shoddy unprofessional corrupt or inept law enforcement
OR
There isn't will by those operating and managing enforcement
OR
Legislation hasn't developed to catch up with the technological aspects of international crime.

While the first two may have some effect, I prefer to think the last of has the greatest effect

Even so, that means that there is a job of work to do in informing the public and legislators with a view to getting better laws and better international co operation.

[scamassassin007]

I have a question.

Has anyone else noticed that, when BB has the "Tesla Giveaway".... they are also going to have a party?

Well, how do you have a party over the internet with a website that is in blackout mode? I mean, who buys the party snacks, will there be dancing, do the affiliates have to bring a bottle, and are they going to play party games like Pass the Green Panel and Pin the Tail on Alan Sills?

I am fascinated to see how they manage this one.

BB announced a winner but have they actually awarded the Mercedes Yet from the last contest?

"Confirmed BB Mercedes Prize winner comes forward":

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1901220_219457404919584_498728477_n.jpg

"Chris Smith officially orders the Tesla":

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/s180x540/1958531_219459604919364_564860479_n.jpg

[scamassassin007]

Not Everyone In BB Smelling Roses?

Banners Broker PUBLIC Facebook Page:

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t31.0-8/q71/s720x720/1909434_219647901567201_775808213_o.jpg

BB Does Not Like Negative Comments. You Have To Read Fast Before The BB Propaganda Censors Delete It!

[scamassassin007]

Today's The Day For The Scam Drawing!

Get Your Lucky Ponzi Lotto Tickets Out!

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10001308_219679558230702_678690037_n.jpg

And The Winner Is.....?


http://www.marshfieldboysandgirlsclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Balloons-Animated.gif

[littleroundman]

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag116/Little_Roundman/scams/bb3_zps6cf36623.jpg

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag116/Little_Roundman/scams/bb2_zpsdbb92451.jpg

Frode Holsts' frode.holst.58 page on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/frode.holst.58?ref=ts&fref=ts)

Apparently Mr Holst is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

He learned nothing from his Profitable Sunrise experience

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag116/Little_Roundman/scams/bbps_zps0ffdb211.jpg

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag116/Little_Roundman/scams/bb1_zps9f1ebaf8.jpg

Mudassar Arif Hashmis' mudassir.arifhashmi page on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/mudassir.arifhashmi)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn9gKGIFY4o&amp;feature=player_detailpage

Pinakee Naiks' Banners Broker testimonial on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn9gKGIFY4o)

[scamassassin007]

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag116/Little_Roundman/scams/bb3_zps6cf36623.jpg

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag116/Little_Roundman/scams/bb2_zpsdbb92451.jpg

Frode Holsts' frode.holst.58 page on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/frode.holst.58?ref=ts&fref=ts)

Apparently Mr Holst is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.



Good Eye LRM!

[Joe_Shmoe]

Finally somebody had the guts to ask.


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The usual response from a Banners Broker "leader"
I wonder was it Little Jamie Waters or Iain Sherriff who replied?

[scamassassin007]

Finally somebody had the guts to ask.


https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/l/t1.0-9/1947774_219734764891848_1486531307_n.jpg


The usual response from a Banners Broker "leader"
I wonder was it Little Jamie Waters or Iain Sherriff who replied?




PATHETIC! When will these people wake up?


John Barrett of Ireland won. He better not celebrate too hard until he receives the car!

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1382356_219736621558329_1667825629_n.jpg

[Della Cate]

The, er, "lucky winner" of the Tesla car is apparently one John Barrett. I have seen on the BB Fb page a reference to "the luck of the Irish".

So, is this the same John Barrett?

Another scheme too good to be true? | Irish Examiner (http://www.irishexaminer.com/analysis/another-scheme-too-good-to-be-true-215389.html)

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And today IS St Patrick's Day after all!

[scamassassin007]

A Random Drawing?

One has to wonder. As LittleROundMan pointed out above. The "Usual Suspects List" names keep popping up.

John Berret Ring A Bell?

READ THIS ARTIUCLE: http://www.irishexaminer.com/analysis/another-scheme-too-good-to-be-true-215389.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/analysis/another-scheme-too-good-to-be-true-215389.html)

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1947480_219740351557956_185879719_n.jpg

[scamassassin007]

Sorry Della.. Like Minds Think A Like.. lol I did not see your post.

Who believes this was a Random Drawing?
Maybe BB will make some believers out of the Irish again.

[Della Cate]

Sorry Della.. Like Minds Think A Like.. lol I did not see your post.

Who believes this was a Random Drawing?
Maybe BB will make some believers out of the Irish again.

Yup, SA007, great minds DO think alike!

But honestly, how convenient, an Irish winner, on St Patrick's Day; as you say, are they trying to create more BB believers or allay the fears of those they already have?

[Joe_Shmoe]

The, er, "lucky winner" of the Tesla car is apparently one John Barrett. I have seen on the BB Fb page a reference to "the luck of the Irish".

So, is this the same John Barrett?

Another scheme too good to be true? | Irish Examiner (http://www.irishexaminer.com/analysis/another-scheme-too-good-to-be-true-215389.html)

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And today IS St Patrick's Day after all!


If it is him & if he ever does get the car (and he won't).

How many of the victims he lured into his Ponzi scheme would want to key it (at the very least) when they see him driving around town in such a conspicuous car?


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[scamassassin007]

Yup, SA007, great minds DO think alike!

But honestly, how convenient, an Irish winner, on St Patrick's Day; as you say, are they trying to create more BB believers or allay the fears of those they already have?

Yes, Agreed. What are the odds. Chris might as well put out a pot of #PONZI Gold at the end of the #SCAM Rainbow!

On that note: Wasn't Elke was the first female "BB Millionaire ???

The Plot Thickens!

Maybe now with all the attention they will award the #SCAM Cars!

[Whip]

Sorry Della.. Like Minds Think A Like.. lol I did not see your post.

Who believes this was a Random Drawing?
Maybe BB will make some believers out of the Irish again.

you guys are thinking it means a random name drawn from a hat. All it meant was that it was allegedly going to be drawn at a random time.

[scamassassin007]

Yes, Agreed. What are the odds. Chris might as well put out a pot of #PONZI Gold at the end of the #SCAM Rainbow!

On that note: Wasn't Elke was the first female "BB Millionaire"???

The Plot Thickens!

Maybe now with all the attention they will award the #SCAM Cars!

I want to see the title on the Mercedes and the delivery date of Elke's Mercedes.
I would not put it past BB to pay her off for saying she won.

Nobody at BB to date will confirm the car was delivered!

[Whip]

I want to see the title on the Mercedes and the delivery date of Elke's Mercedes.
I would not put it past BB to pay her off for saying she won.

Nobody at BB to date will confirm the car was delivered!

I know. How hard can it be to say 'yes' if it had.

[Joe_Shmoe]

I know. How hard can it be to say 'yes' if it had.

:zip it:No doubt there is some kind of "problem" that has caused a slight delay in getting the car delivered.

Rest assured Elke the Mercedes that you "won" months ago is on it's way right now honest injun, cross my heart & hope to die, on my grannys life.




Regards Chris Smith :RpS_lol::RpS_lol::RpS_lol:

[scamassassin007]

BREAKING NEWS:
Banners Broker's Chris Smith Personally Delivers the Tesla!

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1901782_219757528222905_421995405_n.jpg

[scamassassin007]

Banners Broker On Twitter

Not everything going to plan on TWITTER as BB has hoped.

Many people are pointing out the BB lies, the liquidation, and other information not favorable to BB.

The Pro-BB #Ponzi Pimp posts do not explain the facts ort have a hint of honesty. They do not mention the pay problems and endless deception.

I did notice happen to do a "VIEW ALL PICTURES SEARCH" for Banners Broker.

It is nice to see that so many of you came out to support BB:

BB TWITTER PHOTO SEARCH: https://twitter.com/search?q=banners%20broker&src=typd&mode=photos (https://twitter.com/search?q=banners%20broker&src=typd&mode=photos)

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/1912035_219892181542773_122029573_n.jpg

Let's See How Long Until They Figure This Out.. lol

BB Main Search: Banners Broker

FYI: BB Hashtags: #bannersbroker #bannersmobile #moneyonmymind #bringonBBv3 #talkingbbforum #futureisbright

Anti BB Hashtags: #BBLIQUIDATION #BBTRUTH

[whatthe]

:zip it:No doubt there is some kind of "problem" that has caused a slight delay in getting the car delivered.

Rest assured Elke the Mercedes that you "won" months ago is on it's way right now honest injun, cross my heart & hope to die, on my grannys life.




Regards Chris Smith :RpS_lol::RpS_lol::RpS_lol:


According to a post on TBB forums by Jamie, she opted for the cash instead :italian_flick:

[laidback]

According to a post on TBB forums by Jamie, she opted for the cash instead :italian_flick:And of course she has received that money in her bank right?...RIGHT?Are we holding our breath on this one???