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    I really think people are over estimating the influence that the India situation will have. The vast majority don't care if it is a scam, if its illegal, if the people running it are criminals(they don't understand and don't want to know) the repurcussions. They don't care if there are no ads, they don't care about buildings, CEO qualifications or anything else.
    The only thing they want to know is...IS IT PAYING?
    As long as that is the case, they are happy enough to join/continue.
    But what is becoming quite obvious is that there are problems with payments. This is why the scam will collapse. India may help but not to any great extent. As always, the money is the issue. When that dries up it will collapse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    I've found this.....but I don't know how old it is. Attachment 2629
    That was from Dublin, I posted it here a while back

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    Quote Originally Posted by noname999 View Post
    I really think people are over estimating the influence that the India situation will have. The vast majority don't care if it is a scam, if its illegal, if the people running it are criminals(they don't understand and don't want to know) the repurcussions. They don't care if there are no ads, they don't care about buildings, CEO qualifications or anything else.
    The only thing they want to know is...IS IT PAYING?
    As long as that is the case, they are happy enough to join/continue.
    But what is becoming quite obvious is that there are problems with payments. This is why the scam will collapse. India may help but not to any great extent. As always, the money is the issue. When that dries up it will collapse.
    To be honest - I couldn't care less if the 'professional ponzi players' lost their money - it's the innocents I care about.
    If we can educate the innocents; it's our job well done.

    Jason

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Hi, antagonists!

    Well, I've just had a word with SBM - there isn't a way to sticky the main points of the thread at the top of every page - vBulletin just doesn't work like that.
    It's always something you could suggest to vBulletin at https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/foru...-4-Suggestions and maybe they'd put it in their next version; who knows?

    Sorry about any inconvenience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    Hi, antagonists!

    Well, I've just had a word with SBM - there isn't a way to sticky the main points of the thread at the top of every page - vBulletin just doesn't work like that.
    It's always something you could suggest to vBulletin at https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/foru...-4-Suggestions and maybe they'd put it in their next version; who knows?

    Sorry about any inconvenience.

    Jason
    I thought your use of dropbox earlier today was rather splendid. Is that a possible alternative?

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    The easiest thing to do is PM me with what each person thinks are the most relevant posts, so I can collate them into some semblance of order and make a suitably titled sticky post.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    I may be stating the obvious here but any collation of posts etc should just all be facts backed up with the proper evidence. There shouldn't be any hyperbole or speculation (unless ihas an appropriate remark about it being unproven).

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    stop drop and roll and god love the Irish!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshKen1 View Post
    I thought your use of dropbox earlier today was rather splendid. Is that a possible alternative?
    A possible alternative for ... ?

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    I started messing with the 'Blog this Post' button at the foot of every post the other week, its very good for collecting information and each post can have up to 5 searchable tags, and categorized. I've started using it for my own purposes and kept the blog hidden, but now I'm more comfortable with it I was going to start going back through the thread and pick out relevant info.

    Here's an example, I particularly liked this post that Beacon made so I kept it in case it comes up again - as these things invariably do.

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    EDIT: I've unhidden some of the blog posts, have a look RealScam.com - Is it, or isn't it? You Decide. - Hypanor - Blogs
    Q & A with Terry Stern - Q&A with Terry Stern
    Banners Broker busted in India - Investment firm accused of duping investors
    Spread it on Facebook - Banners Broker Ponzi Scam

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    I got a lot of the information I needed from a good ol Irish lad str8 from ireland.

    Its almost time to burn bannersbroker. burn like a campfire on a saturday night

    the irish DO NOT MESS AROUND

    success!

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    Hey Iain why do you guys ban me from your forum. What are you scared of? Its okay you are going to end up in jail just like the rest of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    Hi, antagonists!

    Well, I've just had a word with SBM - there isn't a way to sticky the main points of the thread at the top of every page - vBulletin just doesn't work like that.
    It's always something you could suggest to vBulletin at https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/foru...-4-Suggestions and maybe they'd put it in their next version; who knows?
    Well then I suggest a separate thread say called "Banners Broker official information - enforcement agencies please read this" to which only admins or some other can post
    Then what to post?
    - companies registration doccuments and any photos of locations these shoudl begin at number 1 and go from there serially in the message.
    - names photos and contacts of BB management, people who front BB bulleting boards, Facebook , linkedin or other web presence except I suggest we dont post people who run web groups and then either allow free posting to it or stop promoting BB when they are informed about it. If they continue to promote BB they are fair game in my book.

    - Press coverage, statements, both by BB and by police etc.

    I would suggest each of the above go into single posts and if they reach a limit they ate numbered e.g. Official doccuments 1, 2, 3
    Press coverage 1,2,3
    BB management and senior associates 1,2,3
    Coverage sould be cross referenced with official docs e.g. " Dixit arrested" for example should have "c.f. Official documents 1 for Stellar Point and Banners broker Canada company registration listing Raj Dixit as a Director." "or c.f. Official docs 2 for copy of arrest warrant and court hearing"
    The above could just be in a one word hyperlink "C.f. doc 146 " which links to the message number

    In such a way with three posts you will encapsulate most of the decent work done in this thread.

    There would be no discussion or comment on it, that would be done here in this thread.
    What do you think?
    Actually Hypanors blog idea could do all this so consider this my submission as to catagories.
    Addendum: July diligent has done some great detective work on various people offices and IPs IIR?

    Maybe also a catagory of : How to identify a scam/ five things to look out for in a scam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beacon View Post
    Well then I suggest a separate thread say called "Banners Broker official information - enforcement agencies please read this" to which only admins or some other can post
    Then what to post?
    - companies registration doccuments and any photos of locations these shoudl begin at number 1 and go from there serially in the message.
    - names photos and contacts of BB management, people who front BB bulleting boards, Facebook , linkedin or other web presence except I suggest we dont post people who run web groups and then either allow free posting to it or stop promoting BB when they are informed about it. If they continue to promote BB they are fair game in my book.

    - Press coverage, statements, both by BB and by police etc.

    I would suggest each of the above go into single posts and if they reach a limit they ate numbered e.g. Official doccuments 1, 2, 3
    Press coverage 1,2,3
    BB management and senior associates 1,2,3
    Coverage sould be cross referenced with official docs e.g. " Dixit arrested" for example should have "c.f. Official documents 1 for Stellar Point and Banners broker Canada company registration listing Raj Dixit as a Director." "or c.f. Official docs 2 for copy of arrest warrant and court hearing"
    The above could just be in a one word hyperlink "C.f. doc 146 " which links to the message number

    In such a way with three posts you will encapsulate most of the decent work done in this thread.

    There would be no discussion or comment on it, that would be done here in this thread.
    What do you think?
    Actually Hypanors blog idea could do all this so consider this my submission as to catagories.
    Addendum: July diligent has done some great detective work on various people offices and IPs IIR?

    Maybe also a catagory of : How to identify a scam/ five things to look out for in a scam
    Sounds like a plan.
    Should be stickied too.

    Has an admin got some time to implement this?

    Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxwell Johnstone View Post
    Hey Iain why do you guys ban me from your forum. What are you scared of? Its okay you are going to end up in jail just like the rest of them
    joke, right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iainsherriff View Post
    joke, right ?


    Another mature post from BB's elderly representative....

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    @Iain: Can you answer my questions please. I have been waiting days.
    "if they are giving the Banners Broker Mastercard,Banners Broker must be a real company." -BB member.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxwell Johnstone View Post
    I got a lot of the information I needed from a good ol Irish lad str8 from ireland.

    Its almost time to burn bannersbroker. burn like a campfire on a saturday night

    the irish DO NOT MESS AROUND

    success!
    Please explain!
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    I got the following reply from a UK journalist:


    I looked into Banners Broker and despite testimonials worldwide from satisfied clients, the company's business model is excessively complicated, opaque and impossible to see exactly how genuine income is generated. On the face of it, it does seem to depend on attracting an ever increasing number of new customers who make their investment and pay their monthly fees. There is no actual evidence from real websites that the client advertiser/publisher is obtaining any real income for their investment. The company publishes no meaningful statistics and cannot tell the investor where their money has gone.

    There is evidence from blogs and forums that Bannners Broker is not answering its clients queries, or responding to demands for payouts. However, others do seem to have been paid and appear satisfied with their investment.

    This is a worldwide business with mighty ambition, even though it appears to have a very modest HQ in Ontario, Canada. It claims to have generated 6 billion advertisements, and pays $1 million in commission every day. It claims to have 2500,000 affiliates. Even if you just count the $15 monthly admin fee, and allow for 100,000 members , that means $1.5 million dollars per month. Experts in the on-line advertising industry say that Banners Broker are apparently selling their advertising impressions to their affiliates/investors at 100 times or more that real market values. The company appears to claim sales revenue of $40 million per month.

    Feedjit, a well known web publisher, offers two million geotargeted, or 6 million global ad impressions for $49. The same would cost you $18,000 with Banners Broker. Crucially and most worrying, Banners broker does not disclose which websites are running the investor's impressions. It claims that this is impossible because ads are constantly switched between websites every few minutes.

    The company tells investors that they can't lose money and will generate 100% returns. This, of course, is total rubbish. But they have made good use of social media to spread the word to the gullible and greedy. On the well tried and tested presumption that 'there is one born every minute', Banners Broker still attracts idiot investors who want to get rich quick without doing any work for it.

    The company started in October 2010 and is based in Ontario, Canada, but banks in Belize. The CEO and sole owner is Chris Smith who alone signs the cheques; Ian Driscoll is in charge of sales; and Rajiv Dixit of head of the Canadian HQ. He was formerly involved in a scam called ICF World Homes which was shut down by the Canadian authorities leaving 900 victims of fraud. There were also accusations of money laundering. Anybody who has given their personal details to Banners Broker as an investor should be alerted to the danger of identity theft.

    There is one UK national who recently joined the management team. He is David Hooker who is in charge of compliance . He seems to have popped up after the company had a convention in Ireland last year. His history is as a salesman and motivational speaker. Hooker has just issued a completely impenetrable statement on behalf of Banners Broker to counter the bad publicity of having their Indian Office in Goa raided a few days ago and closed down. The company is now facing a number of fraud charges there.

    Any sensible person wouldn't touch BB with the proverbial bargepole, and the general public will not have much sympathy for those who have decided to throw their money in that particular hole. This really is a case of buyer beware.

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    STOP PRESS! The new offices in Bangalore, support staff are ready to go:



    Note the company bike too, no expense spared setting this up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypanor View Post
    STOP PRESS! The new offices in Bangalore, support staff are ready to go:



    Note the company bike too, no expense spared setting this up.
    Am I missing something here? Yup... I am ... picture? Nope... it's like a BB ad/impression ... it's er... invisible

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    Ah...Its part of the blind network...sheesh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AshKen1 View Post
    Am I missing something here? Yup... I am ... picture? Nope... it's like a BB ad/impression ... it's er... invisible
    Aha! The Indian unicorn!

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    Sent you a PM sas
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    "A toyota means 1 thing. Extrenal revenue. That is proof."-BB member

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beacon View Post
    Aha! The Indian unicorn!


    There are no Indian unicorns. Only lesser spotted ones ok?

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