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    HitNRunMasters

    Well, well, well is there a lot to say about this one. We could start at the very beginning, but let's start with the HnRM's latest newsletter and work our way back from there.

    This is a quote from MNO:

    as a strange newsletter sent by the admin of HitNRunMasters NB today which had a very obscure connection at best to his program. As it also consisted largely of plagiarized material anyway (from a book by New York Times journalist David Brooks) I don’t see a need to re-produce it here. Sorry, admin, I prefer original information for my readers, though were you to quote the source and explain the connection with on online HYIP I may include it, lol.
    When I saw this, I decided to do some 'due diligence'. And, oh my, what I found.

    HnRM's latest newsletter:

    We Don't Know What We Don't Know

    It is a law of human nature, that the more men you concentrate in one happy pack, the more each of them will come to resemble the dominant successful personality of that group. Donald Trump. They possess a sort of masculine photosynthesis to start with — the ability to turn sunlight into self-admiration. By the law of compound egotism, they create this self-reinforcing vortex of smugness, which brings out the most-pleased-with-themselves aspects of their own personalities.

    The vast majority of us have very little understanding of why we make the choices we do, and that we're influenced instead by peer pressure; impulsive and reactive emotions; a deep and bottomless need for admiration and status; overconfidence in the present; excessive worry about the future; the evolutionary instinct to avoid pain and move towards pleasure; and precious little capacity to delay gratification.
    A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

    In short, we have an infinite capacity for self-deception. Or, people overestimate their ability to understand why they are making certain decisions. They make up stories to explain their own actions even when they have no clue about what is happening inside.

    Worse yet, the most powerful among us have a tendency to speak at length in a pompous self-aggrandizing way swatting away doubt and choosing up sides precisely because not having answers feels so uncomfortable and potentially threatening. Opinions, in turn, become polarized and rigid. Just consider the typical HYIP opinions, marked as they are by a blatant disregard for logic (replaced by the worship of financial gain) and a perilous potential cost to the greater good.

    You would be well advised to understand that very view practice epistemological modesty — the substituting of humility in place of arrogance. Epistemology is the study of how we know what we know. Modesty is warranted because there is so much we don't and can't know. People with this disposition believe that wisdom begins with an awareness of our own ignorance.

    The world would be a far better place if people adopted an unwavering willingness to grapple with issues rather than simply pontificate about them; to embrace nuance, ambiguity and paradox rather than choosing sides; and always be open to learning and to being changed by what they learn.

    This is a path to a more meaningful life — one that balances action with introspection, confidence with restraint.

    Each of us, consciously and unconsciously seek out people in life whose values, opinions and sensibility most mirror our own. We need to remind ourselves of how little we actually know or even can know, how much our own desire for power and to do good blinds us to our own limitations. We need to pay attention to the sensations that come up from below. We should make tentative generalizations and analyses. We should continue to wander and absorb, letting the information marinate deep inside.
    The bottom line is, if we don’t really know what we don’t really know and unless we consciously make a decision and act on that decision… we never will!
    Admin NB
    Paul with MNO needs to be given kudos for this one. I did a bit of research and found that the latest newsletter from the HnRM admin was, indeed, copied almost word for word from a book by New York Times journalist David Brooks. The name of this book is 'The Social Animal'.

    This coming from the big, bad, know-it-all Hit and Run Master Admin. This group does so have the need to sound as though they are stunningly brilliant...We do know they are stunned...brilliant, on the other hand...One thing we know for certain is that him and his support group (Quicksilver and KB from PTV & EFX) are running out of fresh material. And, that MNO Paul has certainly gotten under the HnRM's Admin's skin. Much more to come...

    This one is a classic Xavier (FLO), P2P (Nick), Garrett (PTV), Charles (EFX) scam. Soon we will call out the 'programmer'/'Admin' NSB, NB, and NS...Oh, and let us not forget Sid. We do know he would so hate to be left out of the limelight.

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    Re: HitNRunMasters

    Good Lord !

    I know it's fashionable in HYIP ponzi and MLM circles to take what is often a sound piece of advice, twist it, turn it, take it out of context and turn it into some sort of justification for stealing other peoples' money.

    I mean,

    it's one thing to infer Winston Churchill was talking about continuing to support criminal HYIP ponzi owners when he made his famous "Never, ever, ever,
    ever, ever, ever, ever, give up. Never give up. Never give up. Never give up."
    speech
    or that Napoleon Hill was referring to MLMs or ponzi games when he said: "What the mind of man can conceive and believe, It can achieve."


    but THIS,

    this takes the cake.

    Perhaps he forgot to include the super-secret decoding ring necessary for the reader to even begin to understand what in the hell he's waffling on about.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    WOW !!

    No wonder the admin has to resort to stealing other peoples' ideas to facilitate the stealing of his members' money.

    2.8% PER DAY and compounding



    Things really ARE getting desperate out there in HYIP ponzi land.

    Good catch, Sascha.

    I suppose you have your money ready to send.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    WOW !!

    I suppose you have your money ready to send.
    Of course! Doesn't everyone? Don't you see where he said, 'Join us or you will perish'? Heavens knows we don't want that.

    HnRM Admin Throwing a Hissy Fit Over Something Paul Said:

    From MNO:MNO Blog

    “Don’t Misinterpret our Words!
    Yesterday’s news letter was misinterpreted by some of those that published it. I never said we:
    “do not need any money from the investors and would pay profits to anyone even if there are no new investors.”
    What I said was,
    “We are satisfied with our current level of growth.”
    “We made tons of money in this industry before we opened HnRM!”
    “We make tons of money now!”
    “We will make tons of money without another new member joining.”
    “Since we are not trying to further impress anyone, the members are getting paid without any problems, and we don’t care if those of you that haven’t joined or invested ever join or invest (although we make more profit if you do). We are going to keep ‘MAKING MONEY’ as our top priority.”
    What is often not considered is that we MAKE MONEY from the HYIP Industry. Our ability to pay you is NOT dependant on new members coming in. It is however dependant on MAKING MONEY. And that is the difference between HnRM and 99.999999999999% of the rest.
    Do we want new members? YES! Do we want you to invest? YES! Will we stop making money if we receive neither? NO!
    Your investments earn returns, and the majority of those returns are paid to you. The rest of the profit we make from your investments … WE KEEP! If you decide to remove your investment then YOUR investment no longer earns a return, BUT, WE STILL MAKE MONEY from the HYIP industry. We still MAKE MONEY from our OWN investments. We MAKE MONEY from our Exchange Services. We MAKE MONEY from our ecurrency associates. We MAKE MONEY from our monitoring services. We MAKE MONEY from your investments. We will continue to MAKE MONEY with or without you.
    BUT …
    We would rather MAKE MONEY with you than without you.
    So, once again, don’t misinterpret our words.
    I guess to sum it all up, I could just say … WE MAKE MONEY!
    Until next time … Good Luck! … Without us you are going to need it!
    Admin NB”.
    Seems MNO Paul hit a nerve. HnRM admin does love to shout to get his, uh, point across. Deja vu of when Garrett would throw his temper tantrums. Look at old posts/newsletters from his other hyips and you will see the writing style is the same - he just can't seem to help himself.

    When you do a breakdown of the above quote, you will find it pretty amusing. He has, from day one, blatantly stated he scams (only he pretties it up), and continues to do so.

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    Re: HitNRunMasters

    Given to me from the About Us section in HnRM re support:

    Support:
    We have outsourced our support to a relatively new entity, ESP, who will answer all your questions and coordinate with our administrators regarding anything they cannot handle. By outsourcing the task of support we are free to do what we do best.
    If anything about this was true, that would be great. This was twisted to make it sound as though ESP is a relatively new entity, and that the HnRM admin/programmer doesn't know who this ESP is and never met them.

    There was no outsourcing. Nagender (NSB, NS, NB) worked with this 'relatively new entity' in several scam Hyips. The only thing new about this ESP is that Quicksilver and KB decided it would be a good idea to start a scam monitor (to scam affiliate commissions) and offer their 'live support' services in order to help hyip admins con more investors.

    What the HnRM admin means by - 'outsourcing the task of support we are free to do what we do best' - is that they are free to scam, con, deceive even more innocent people out of their hard-earned money.

    The following quote fits these scam admins/QS/KB to a tee:

    "The true hypocrite is the one who ceases to perceive his deception, the one who lies with sincerity"

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    This was given to me from the shoutbox on the HnRM site:

    Admin NB: one of our thoughts, and perhaps you can call it a goal even, is to have an 'inside' group of investors that we work with and for to ensure programs succeed long enough for us all to be in profit
    Can you smell the mind control happening here? Garrett (PTV) preyed on people's emotions by promising them a grand life in a new town born from his silica mine. Charles (EFX) promised investors if they studied his Forex training he would 'choose' the 'elite' to work as traders. Now we have the HnRM admin hinting that there will be an 'inside' group of investors he will work with.

    Does this reek of the same group of scam admins/QS/KB? Not one of them see anything wrong with preying on people, their lives, and their emotions. They all see it as a game. Not one, out of this gang, has a conscience.

    'There is no vice that doth so cover a man with shame as to be found false and perfidious.'

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    You gotta give 'em one thing,

    they DO tell the truth about some things:

    Welcome to Hit N Run Masters.

    For OVER 10 Years we have been involved in HYIP. For OVER 10 Years we have been developing relationships in the HYIP world. For OVER 10 Years we have been successfully taking advantage of the HYIP Arena and BANKING BIG PROFITS!!!

    We have developed a WINNING STRATEGY that is virtually unbeatable!

    Believe us when we tell you… We have the INSIDE SCOOP on almost every corner of the HYIP World!!!

    We WIN at least 85% of the time.

    This is exactly what you have been waiting for.

    Why?

    Because you know all too well that all HYIPs are Ponzis!
    Because you lose too many times trying to ‘Beat the Admin’ at their own game!
    Because you know it can be done, there are those that do it, you’ve even heard others refer to them as Hit-N-Runners…Well, we are the masters of the infamous Hit-N-Run…ergo…HITnRUN Masters!

    Now you can join the HITnRUN Masters Team and be virtually guaranteed a long term successful HYIP experience.
    Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - hitnrunmasters - hitnrunmasters.com

    This is DEFINITELY one for the diehard HYIP ponzi gamblers and nobody else.

    Anyone playing this one is giving their full permission to the owners to rip them off mercilessly and run away with the money.

    Even the usual suspect forums have nothing but "I got paid" posts from pimps and shills.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: HitNRunMasters

    Quote Originally Posted by Sascha View Post
    Given to me from the About Us section in HnRM re support:



    If anything about this was true, that would be great. This was twisted to make it sound as though ESP is a relatively new entity, and that the HnRM admin/programmer doesn't know who this ESP is and never met them.

    There was no outsourcing. Nagender (NSB, NS, NB) worked with this 'relatively new entity' in several scam Hyips. The only thing new about this ESP is that Quicksilver and KB decided it would be a good idea to start a scam monitor (to scam affiliate commissions) and offer their 'live support' services in order to help hyip admins con more investors.

    What the HnRM admin means by - 'outsourcing the task of support we are free to do what we do best' - is that they are free to scam, con, deceive even more innocent people out of their hard-earned money.

    The following quote fits these scam admins/QS/KB to a tee:

    "The true hypocrite is the one who ceases to perceive his deception, the one who lies with sincerity"
    They've put their 'patsy' in place already for when the heist takes place. Blame the new, don't know much about, 'middle man'.

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    At least they picked the right name for their Ponzi. They are "masters" at hitnrun stealing people's money. The same criminals have grouped together on this one to steal as much as they can, in as little time as possible, and then be gone before anyone realizes what happened. I think they are planning on running this through the month of November and then run with the money. They don't want to be around for Black December. Just my two cents worth.

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    Actually, "hit n run" HYIPers are the natural enemy of hardcore HYIP ponzi players.

    All the "usual suspect" shills must have choked in their Cornflakes when they saw what this bunch intend to do, i.e. "hit and run"

    There's absolutely no better way to shorten the lifespan of a HYIP than if a majority of players "hit n run" with their "profit"
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: HitNRunMasters

    From easywhois.com

    HITNRUNMASTERS.COM
    Status:SUSPENDED
    Note: This Domain Name is Suspended.
    In this status the domain name is InActive and will not function.

    Can someone please explain to me for what reasons a domain name would be suspended?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sascha View Post
    From easywhois.com

    HITNRUNMASTERS.COM
    Status:SUSPENDED
    Note: This Domain Name is Suspended.
    In this status the domain name is InActive and will not function.

    Can someone please explain to me for what reasons a domain name would be suspended?
    The server is offline(doesn't ping). No explanation on TG or MMG Looks like another one bites the dust.
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Poor Buster. He can't seem to be able to make up his mind about me. First he tells everyone I am clueless, ignorant, take credit for other's people's work, Eagle is a scam, and I have been "caught out" (his words exactly) publicly, and all the other BS mantra he can think of; AND then in the next breath he is giving me credit for having taken HitNRunMasters domain offline. Yes, according to him, I was able to get a court order to shut it down. Talk about delusional. If I was able to get a court order to shut it down, it would not be back up now.

    Oh and before I forget it, I am the real owner of RS, and all of you are just my pawns doing my dirtywork. Yes boys and girls, I am the mastermind of RS, and this is my fundraising arm to solicit donations. Hmm, I can't seem to find my donate button. Guess since I own this forum I should put one up, don't you agree?

    And this from the guy who claims he has done more to shut down Ponzi's that I ever hope to do. I think he is on drugs or has moved in with Festa and is hitting the bottle big time.

    If I were Buster, I would find a day job because his investigative and research skills suck. Oh wait, he has a day job pimping this turkey.

    If anyone wants to see his total rant, I'll post it here. Rather long, but very, very entertaining. Just don't be drinking any liquids when you read it, or you will lose a good keyboard and monitor.

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    It's back - no it isn't. A temp solution has been found - wait! - No it hasn't. A domain transfer to a new registery has been requested. - Sure it has.

    Payouts have been reported when the site was down (to monitors) - clever that. Payouts are going out - oh wait -only to the support staff. No payouts since the day before yesterday.

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    Found yet another 'hyip' that went south only to sort of come back. one-inv.com is now oneinv.net. The things that make you go - HUH?

    Following the trail, I don't see any signs of brilliant, clever admins/support workers 'hitnrunning' - what I see is the same scam admins sucking people into their twisted vortex.

    And, all of this happening at approximately the same time HnRM had - uh, what should we call it - umm - issues. The return of yet another scam hyip and a new domain name.

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    And here we go:

    Reported at 11:44am:

    Payouts due yesterday have been paid after a marathon session with NB helping staff to do them. Not having possession of the domain has really thrown a spanner in the works.
    The only ones who will report 'I got paid' posts will be the support staff (they have already been paid), the paid monitors/shills/pimps.

    Reported at 1:13pm:

    Email from the admin:
    Dear members
    As you will be well aware of now our domain name is in the process of being recovered. It is neither as easy task nor is it something that can be done in a few hours.
    However it has not affected members being able to open the site for requests and deposits.
    I remind you that Friday is the last day that we are accepting investments of less than $100. Today’s payouts are a good reminder to us that we have taken the right decision in this regard. The staff and myself have spent all day doing them because of glitches caused by our current web address.
    Some have suggested that we raise the minimum withdrawal. The problem with that, is we have current smaller investors and monitors, who would feel like second class citizens if we restricted their withdrawals. Our intention is to look after ALL our investors, not just the bigger ones. Changing terms that affect any of our current members is not our intention.
    Until we are in control of our domain name expect some delays in withdrawals. It is a lengthy process and we intend to keep within our Terms of Service, even with the current difficulties.
    I am looking forward to all being back to normal and so are our staff.
    NB
    I am quite sure this recent 'glitch' has not affected members being able to open new accounts and deposit yet more money for you to 'hitnrun' with.

    Everyone, and then some, in the hyip world (and beyond) know that Friday is the last day for you to scam. Aren't you 'just the greatest' (insert SickSilver here-QS) for reminding us.

    Funny that Nick, Garrett, and Charles had those small investors/monitors who would feel like second class citizens as well if you - uh - they - changed the game on them.

    Good luck controlling your domain name. Use that as your latest excuse to scam innocent people. Yes, we know. The other scam admins had a TOS as well - didn't they?

    We, more than anyone (those on Skype and IM), know how your 'support staff' look so forward to things being back to normal. You should look to your support staff's 'group' to see who is loose in the lips. Look for the weakest link.

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    How things have changed in the HYIP ponzi world.

    Way back when, all the admin had to do was say:

    "round 1 finished, round 2 now starting"

    Everybody understood what was happening and, if they thought the admin was playing fair, joined round 2.

    Now, even the pissiest little HYIP comes out with all this B/S smoke and mirrors.
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    I would like to thank those who took the time to find me and bring to my attention the several false accusations KB has made about me on his site. In doing so, he has opened up a whole new can of worms - for everyone.

    The majority of these accusations are not worth my time replying to. However, there are some that need to be taken seriously, and I have taken them that way.

    He stated that he reported me to the authorities because I was stalking him. By stating these allegations, and making these claims, in public, KB has left me with no choice but to contact the police. I checked with the police I am in touch with here, and there have been no reports made of me stalking anyone. Since that is a very serious allegation, the police have asked me what this is all about. I gave them a brief run-down then asked who I could talk to who would help me with this. They put me in touch with the anti-fraud/internet scams division. I told them as soon as I had all of my information gathered together, I would gladly turn it over to them.

    I am finished with KB's bullying, manipulation, control, lies, and threats. Oh yes, he did indeed threaten me. That allegation is not false. At the time, I let it go. I cannot do that any longer. He crossed 2 lines, one, by making serious false accusations, and two, by threatening me. Myself and, most certainly, the authorities are not taking this lightly. Anyone associated with him will, unfortunately, have to be named as well, and, when all is said and done, there will be no one to blame but KB.

    To those I have to name, who I care about, my sincerest apologies. But, for the fact that KB took this too far, I would not have had to do this. You need to contact him and thank him for pulling you into the mess he created. You will soon realize that when it comes to KB, he has no concern for anyone but himself. His agenda is to try to take me down, and he does not care who he hurts in the process.

    In doing this, there is no malice intended on my part. This stemmed from something personal between myself and KB. We BOTH are guilty of allowing things to go to far. We BOTH are guilty of saying and doing some pretty terrible things to one another. I will admit that - he will not. However, KB went way over the line. I am left with no choice now but to do whatever necessary to protect myself.

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    This is 'Rainbow65' (Quicksilver also known as ) one of the scam mods working for the HnRM admin. How terribly embarrassing - wouldn't you agree? Shout it out QS!

    More payments to my Liberty Reserve:

    10/19/2011 01:45
    Batch #74020413
    From: U5862144 (HRM)


    $4.20

    It seems that nothing can keep HnRM down...way to go NB!!!!
    This is 'KB' (from QS and his scam monitor) one of the two mods working with the HnRM admin:
    Reported on October 20, 2011 @ 12:44pm:
    HitnRun Masters is no longer viable. Our attempts to contact the admin have proved fruitless. We are almost certain that any investment at this time would be lost.
    Almost certain??

    FYI both support workers have been paid, up-to-date- and they did not invest out of pocket. Have all of you investors been paid back? We think not. Ask them where your money is.

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    The main problem here seems to be that the admin and monitors are the ones doing the "run" and the members......well........they just got "hit"

    A couple more like this and the "usual suspect" monitors and their forum will be dead in the water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancetta View Post
    I would like to thank those who took the time to find me
    Nancetta, do as we have suggested, please. We can help.

    Since I was mentioned and Buster thinks I am you I will try to help him with his -uh, umm, research skills and point him in the right direction. I know this is quite a task I am taking on, however, I will give it my best shot.

    Buster - look to your 'inside' group as to who is giving up information. I can't be more clear than that without naming names. If, from this hint, you cannot figure it out - sweet Mother of all that is holy - we feel more sorry for you than you know.

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    Admin Our live and ticket support system will be down all weekend PDT time for major upgrades by our network supplier. We apologise for the inconvenience.
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    2011-10-19 10:08 PM
    What is meant by this? Is your scam monitor live and support ticket system down, or are you referring to HnRM because you know it's doing a runner, thereby you think you can cover your, uh wares? In case you don't know the answer, I will give you yet another hint...oh my...read your post carefully. Really, these two need to drink more tea.

    Admin HitnRun Masters put on Not Paying. Do not invest!
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    Can you hear the silence? How dreadfully kind of you to notify us that HnRM is not paying after you two conned x-amount of people into investing - and losing their money. Aren't you two just outstanding, caring citizens?

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    Hitnrunmasters - Hitnrunmasters.com

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    Good to see that the original domain is back up!
    Good for who, exactly? Good for those who were still able to invest up until, what was it, yesterday - and will never see their investment back? Or, good for those who have already invested and will never see a dime?

    We are curious as to know who this is good for.

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    Admin: No new payouts from HnRM. Do not invest!
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    By this we are quite certain HnRM's 'support group' - 'live chat' is saying they did not get paid their last payout from the investors money. Never mind that they are calling this out, again, after the fact several of you lost your money - we must all give our condolences to them for not getting paid to scam you.

    Can we all say - Awwww to them?

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    Re: HitNRunMasters

    MNO Blog
    The admin of HitNRunMasters scammed immediately after his program faced the first issues with his domain. That admin really disappointed me as I believed that his program could last at least until Christmas. The worst thing for you would be if you believed any of those lies spread by him about his insider knowledge and secret connections in the industry. Like I said in the above MNOFridays piece, this was another of those “self appointed experts” trying to tell you to trust him because you can’t possibly make any money from HYIPs without giving it to him first. Well, for now he was only able to prove that he was a scammer himself by cheating the investors and those who trusted him. Mostly because of his behavior I wrote tonight’s article as I was inspired by this perfectly planned scam with another fascinating but too-good-to-be-true story behind it. I heard a lot of abuse for MNO for telling the truth about the program from those members all too happy to believe the lie as well as the usual army of “paid posters”. Now that they’ve been scammed and know that I was right they seem surprisingly silent about the whole thing. Oh, well!
    Paul, you were one of the first ones to mention your scepticism about HnRM's 'Live Support'. You have no idea how spot on you were.

    We only have to look at any HYIP that offers 'Live Support' to know that they (the Hyip) will 'Hit and Run' 100%.

    We all know by now who this 'Live Support' is. And, they are not looking out for the investors best interests. They are looking to make money off of your 'investments'.

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