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    Re: DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Music Advising






    All incoming music majors, minors, and participants are advised by the Director of Instrumental Music and the Director of Choral Music. Due to the complexity of the Music Field of Study degree and the needs of proper placement in any music ensemble or course for any student, there is a need to meet individually with any student wishing to enroll in any music course. Music advisors can then access student records, monitor class availability, and register students for appropriate courses in both the music major track, music core and academic core courses, and place them appropriately in performing music ensembles. The Field of Study degree in Music is unique in that music majors must be placed in the correct courses during their first semester in order to stay on track to complete the curriculum in 2 to 3 years. Misadvised music majors can potentially lose an entire year if placed on the incorrect level of music major requirements. Every effort is made to assess the level of musical competency during the initial advising session with the music advisor. This is a difficult task, even for seasoned music professionals, and cannot be accomplished by general advisors. Standardized testing and auditions are used for placement in Music Theory, Class Piano, Applied Private Lessons, and Performing Ensembles.
    As each student moves through the music major curriculum, they meet with their advisor prior to pre-registration for the next semester. During this session, the faculty member assesses student progress in the current semester, addresses any problems, and plans the appropriate courses for the upcoming term. This in turn leads to seamless transfers to area four-year institutions and establishes a model that increases music department enrollments.
    Music Department Top Advising Goals:


    • Goal 1: Inform all Richland students, incoming and returning, about Richland Music Department opportunities.
    • Goal 2: Advise all declared and soon-to-be declared music majors of the proper sequence and pacing of music coursework for successful transfer.
    • Goal 3: Prevent students from being misinformed about collegiate music opportunities to enhance any degree experience and/or fulfill music degree requirements.
    • Goal 4: Complete “follow-through” advising with all music majors and minors throughout their work at Richland that sustains proper progress for student goal completion within degrees and skills.
    • Goal 5: Present students with the Richland Music Dept. experience as being the complete first 2 years of the 4-year Bachelor’s Degree in Music.
    • Goal 6: Teach students that the music degree is about developing skills over years within the course work and not about checking off courses on a list by simply completing them.

    Interested Students sent to the Music Dept. for Advising


    • Procedure 1: All students declaring themselves to be music majors or interested in being music majors would be sent to the Music Department for all advising.
    • Procedure 2: Any student interested in any music course(s) would be sent to the Music Dept. for advising on that course, its co-requisites or pre-requisites, and its relationship to other companion courses.

    Student Needs and Music Degree Issues


    • Music Core: Music Majors need to begin the standard Music Core sequence of courses along with the Academic Core sequence of courses in order to be on pace with any students starting out as freshman at 4-year universities. Defining the 5 areas of the Music Core for students is essential. (MUSIC THEORY, PIANO, APPLIED LESSONS, ENSEMBLES, RECITAL ATTENDANCE)
    • Skill Minimum: Music Majors need to complete a Music Degree Skill Minimum along with a DCCCD Music Degree Minimum, which are currently not equivalent.
    • Music Course Level Placement: Placing students in the proper levels of Music Theory, Piano, and Applied Lessons needs to be done through student testing and interviewing as the schedule is built.
    • Music Faculty Review of Standards: Richland Music Faculty are constantly reviewing and staying current with collegiate music standards for music courses and degree programs across the US to help advise students for successful transfers to 4-year colleges and universities.
















    CONTACT
    Derrick Logozzo
    Department Chair, Director of Instrumental Music
    Fannin Hall, F-148
    972-238-6254

    Melissa Logan
    Director of Choral Music
    Fannin Hall, F-174
    972-238-6284





    The records I have posted clearly show that this CYA page is nonsense.

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    Re: DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Course Catalogue says:

    Course Number: MUSB 1305 (3 Credit Hours)
    Offered at CVC, RLC
    Single-Course Delivery for RLC

    Course Title: Survey of the Music Business
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Course Description: An overview of the music industry including songwriting, live performances, the record industry, music merchandising, contracts and licenses, and career opportunities. (3 Lec.)




    Course Number: MUSB 1380 (3 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Cooperative Education - Music Management
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Course Description: Career related activities encountered in the students' area of specialization are offered through a cooperative agreement between the college, employer, and student. Under supervision of the college and the employer, the student combines classroom learning with work experience. Directly related to a technical discipline, specific learning objectives guide the student through the paid work experience. (1 Lec., 15 Ext.)




    Course Number: MUSB 1381 (3 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Cooperative Education - Music Management
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Course Description: Career-related activities encountered in the student's area of specialization offered through an individualized agreement among the college, employer, and student. Under the supervision of the college and the employer, the student combines classroom learning with work experience. Includes a lecture component. (1 Lec., 15 Ext.)




    Course Number: MUSC 1193 (1 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Special Topics in Music Theory and Composition
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Course Description: Topics address recently identified current events, skills, knowledges, and/or attitudes and behaviors pertinent to the technology or occupation and relevant to the professional development of the student. This course may be repeated if topics and learning outcomes vary. (1 Lec.)




    Course Number: MUSC 1327 (3 Credit Hours)
    Offered at CVC, RLC
    Single-Course Delivery for RLC

    Course Title: Audio Engineering I
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Course Description: Overview of the recording studio. Includes basic studio electronics and acoustic principles, waveform properties, microphone concepts and placement techniques, studio set up and signal flow, console theory, signal processing concepts, multi-track principles and operation, and an overview of mixing and editing. (2 Lec., 3 Lab.)




    Course Number: MUSC 1331 (3 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Musical Instrument Digital Interface (MIDI) I
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Course Description: Exploration of the history and evolution of Musical Instrument Digital Interface (MIDI) systems and applications. Includes the MIDI language and applications in the studio environment using software-based sequencing programs. (2 Lec., 2 Lab.)




    Course Number: MUSC 1333 (3 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Synthesis I
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Prerequisite: Completion of a Music Fundamentals, Music Theory, Private Piano, Class Piano course, or MIDI I.
    Course Description: Introduction to the use of Digital Audio Workstations (DAW's), computers, synthesis, multi-track recording and other MIDI (Music Instrument Digital Interface) devices in the production, arrangement, composition and performance of music. (2 Lec., 2 Lab.)




    Course Number: MUSC 2141 (1 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Forum/Recital
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Course Description: Stylistic analysis of commercial music performances presented by students, faculty, and guest artists. This course may be repeated for credit. (2 Lab.)




    Course Number: MUSC 2186 (1 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Internship - Recording Arts Technology/Technician
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Course Description: A work-based learning experience that enables the student to apply specialized occupational theory, skills and concepts. A learning plan is developed by the college and the employer. (3 Ext.)




    Course Number: MUSC 2314 (3 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Improvisation Theory I
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Course Description: A study of the chordal structures of jazz, rock, country, and fusion with emphasis on extemporaneous performance. (3 Lec.)




    Course Number: MUSC 2319 (3 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Commercial Orchestration
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Course Description: Exploration of writing for voices and instruments to include ranges, transposition, and idiosyncrasies of each instrument with emphasis on commercial music chord voicings. (3 Lec.)




    Course Number: MUSC 2330 (3 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Commercial Music Arranging and Composition
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Prerequisite: Completion of a Music Fundamentals, Music Theory, Private Piano, Class Piano course, MIDI I, or demonstrated competence approved by the instructor.
    Course Description: Presentation of arranging and composition for projects in industry recognized genres including songwriting, show writing and studio orchestra. (2 Lec., 2 Lab.)




    Course Number: MUSC 2345 (3 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Synthesis II
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Prerequisite Recommended: MUSC 1333.
    Course Description: Advanced sound synthesis. Includes hybrid synthesis and digital sampling. (2 Lec., 2 Lab.)




    Course Number: MUSC 2355 (3 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Musical Instrument Digital Interface (MIDI) II
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Prerequisite Recommended: MUSC 1331 or demonstrated competence approved by the instructor.
    Course Description: A continuation of MIDI I with emphasis on advanced sequencer operation, and SMPTE-based synchronization in the interaction of multiple recording and playback systems. (2 Lec., 2 Lab.)




    Course Number: MUSC 2427 (4 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Audio Engineering II
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Prerequisite Required: MUSC 1327.
    Course Description: Implementation of the recording process, microphones, audio console, multi-track recorder, and signal processing devices. (3 Lec., 3 Lab.)




    Course Number: MUSC 2447 (4 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Audio Engineering III
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Prerequisite Required: MUSC 2427.
    Course Description: Advanced practice of procedures and techniques and manipulating audio. Includes digital audio editing, advanced recording techniques, and advanced engineering projects. (3 Lec., 3 Lab.)




    Course Number: MUSC 2448 (4 Credit Hours)
    This course is not currently offered by Richland College.
    Offered at CVC

    Course Title: Audio Engineering IV
    This is a WECM Course Number.
    Prerequisite Required: MUSC 2447.
    Course Description: Advanced recording, mixing, arranging, and editing. Includes the role of the producer in session planning, communication, budgeting, business aspects, technical considerations, and music markets. (3 Lec., 3 Lab.)

    Yet Richland's Derrick Logozzo boldly claims:
    The Recording Arts and Music Technology Area at Richland College is an intensive program of study designed to teach the developing musician various technological and business skills that prepare transfer-track students for upper-level Bachelor’s Degree work.
    Interested students also become prepared quickly to begin entry-level work in the music industry right after Associate’s Degree training at Richland. Using various software platforms in recording and audio engineering, developing press kits and websites, learning about music careers, and becoming a live sound engineer are all skills acquired in our program. Richland’s approach to Recording Arts involves a student becoming a solid musician first and using music technology in an artistic manner to provide the most career options in one’s future. Recording Arts courses are taken through the Continuing Education Music Industry Series which allows the Richland student musician to complete the Associate’s Degree in Music and these certificate-styled courses simultaneously without abbreviation to essential musical training.

    The Richland Recording Arts Equipment Collection includes:


    • Solid State Logic AWS 924 Delta recording console
    • Full variety of recording microphones
    • Four Live Sound rigs
    • Recording Lab with 3 synthesizer workstations and full rhythm section instrumentation
    • Recording Arts Classroom with 16 workstations including Apple iMac Computers and Pro Tools software
    More subterfuge and holding students hostage with nonsense.
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    Re: DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Things are so bad that I have been teasing the young people and telling them that their star jazz pianist and I were going to teach classes. MUAP in triangle, maracas, and such for credit of course!


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    The future of Richland music students who are placed in so much nonsense by their music advisors....

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    Re: DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    UNT music department
    Can I graduate in four years? Yes, it can be done, but five years is much more typical. In order to graduate in four years, you will take nearly 18 hours every full semester, in addition to approximately four summer school sessions.
    5 years folks. That means when the student transfers they will be exceeding credit hours at UNT with required recital each semester, an ensemble and more. Students may need to retake music theory if they don't test up to level. Extra MUAP to achieve the proficiency required and prepare for junior and senior recitals may be needed. More piano to meet proficiency may be required. The core courses may be different and require more hours. It goes on and on.

    UTA's music education degrees are 134 hours plus recital hours and all that mentioned above. Those are 5 year degrees as well. So, it is imperative that students not take anything over the Guided Pathway and degree plans while at Richland.

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    Re: DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    (MUSI 1183 (1 Credit Hours)
    Offered at BHC, CVC, EFC, ECC, MVC, NLC, RLC

    Course Title: Voice Class I
    This is a Texas Common Course Number.
    Course Description: This course is for non-voice majors. It presents the principles of breathing, voice production, tone control, enunciation, and phrasing in two group lessons a week. This course may be repeated for credit. (2 Lab.)
    Coordinating Board Academic Approval Number 5009085126

    Note: Vocal Fundamentals class for less experienced and beginning singers.
    MUSI-1183-81002 (1221577)
    Voice Master Class
    WH116 LAB
    T R
    12:30PM 01:50PM
    B. Griffin-Dyer CAP - 20
    AVAIL - 11
    RLC
    1.00
    08/26/19
    12/12/19
    Open eCampus
    Textbook Info
    Note: Required for voice majors and students enrolled in MUAP 1181 or MUAP 2281. Contact Director Melissa Logan, 972.238.6281, melissalogan@dcccd.edu for placement.
    MUSI-1183-81003 (1221578)
    Voice Master Class
    F176 LAB
    T R
    12:30PM 01:50PM
    Y. Moon CAP - 20
    AVAIL - 8
    RLC
    1.00
    08/26/19
    12/12/19
    Open eCampus
    Textbook Info

    As a music major at A&M-Commerce you’ll have many opportunities to participate in studio recitals and master classes with your studio professor and with nationally recognized guest musicians.
    Richland is the only college in DCCCD of the 7 and possibly the only one in the state forcing students into a class that does not exist and is certainly not transferable. At every other college for all instruments there are masterclasses and renowned guest artist masterclasses as part of the instrument and voice studios.

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    Derrick Logozzo routinely holds his classes so late that the next classes have already started. The Richland Collegiate High School student that was placed in a mind blowing 30 credit hours was consistently late for their English class that was after Logozzo's Big Band Jazz Ensemble. Where is the oversight?

    DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

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    Re: DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    UT Austin out-of-state tuition is among the most expensive in the nation. Here's why. | The Daily Texan

    UT’s out-of-state tuition is the 10th most expensive among large public schools in the nation, according to a recent analysis by HeyTutor.com of data from a 2017–2018 National Center for Education Statistics study on American tuition rates. Out-of-state students paid $36,744 per year, more than triple the amount their in-state peers paid on average....For UT to offer low in-state tuition prices, the 10 percent of out-of-state students have to bear the excess costs, Knight said.
    The Richland Music Advisors putting students in excess hours that could place them in out of state tuition can have dire consequences.

    Excess credit hour policies increase student debt
    Excess credit hour policies assess a tuition surcharge for any credits taken beyond a predetermined threshold....
    The researchers found that four years after states adopted excess credit policies, overall median student debt increased between 5.7 percent and 7.2 percent. And the impact of those policies on student debt was concentrated among low- and middle-income students.
    The researchers realized that student debt could be increasing in these states because of an information gap between state policy makers and individual students....

    “Students are only exposed to the policy when they’re close to the threshold, and at that point, it becomes too hard to make a substantive change to their degree program,” said Dennis Kramer, a professor of higher education at the University of Florida and the report’s co-author. “These policies also shift the cost burden from the states to the individual students.”
    A typical bachelor’s degree program takes 120 credit hours to achieve, but of the states with excess credit policies the fee thresholds average 145 credits, and students may not learn about the policy until they get to around 130 credit hours, Kramer said.
    “We do think there is an opportunity for these policies to become enhanced by robust advising and degree planning,” he said....But as more states move toward performance-funding policies and focusing on metrics and outcomes, they’re looking to use incentives as a carrot to get students to a degree...

    And students are more aware of how many credits they need to achieve a degree if they’re keeping track of them semester to semester, Kramer said, adding that a student in their first or second year of college isn’t worried about having excess credits -- that comes when they’re close to that barrier.
    “We’re not advocating for these policies to go away,” Kramer said. “We’re hoping for opportunities to enhance these policies. Most higher education scholars would agree providing incentives for students to complete their degree in a timely fashion is a good thing.”
    State Rules - Texas A&M University-Commerce
    Undergraduate Funding Limit Rules

    This legislation is an attempt to offer a financial incentive to encourage students to complete degree programs in a timely manner. Students are then subject to penalty for excessive hours.
    If you are a Texas resident and you enrolled in any Texas public institution of higher education BEFORE Fall 1999 you are exempt from the Undergraduate Funding Limit Rule.
    If you are a Texas resident and you enrolled in any Texas public institution of higher education for the first time in Fall 1999 or later, the following provision applies to you:
    Students affected by the 45 hour rule
    Texas Education Code §54.014 provides that there is now a limit on the number of hours an undergraduate Texas resident may attempt while paying in-state tuition. Students who started Fall 1999 through Summer 2006 and attempt 45 or more semester credit hours beyond the hours required to complete their degree could be charged tuition not exceeding out-of-state tuition rates for these excess hours.
    Students affected by the 30 hour rule
    Students who started Fall 2006 and thereafter and attempt 30 or more semester credit hours beyond the hours required to complete their degree could be charged tuition not exceeding out-of-state tuition rates for these excess hours. Students who have not selected a major are considered, by state law, to have degree requirements of 120 hours.
    Developmental courses are excluded from these rules.
    For example: If your approved degree plan requires 120 semester credit hours, and you started your higher education between Fall 1999 and Summer 2006 then for every credit hour you attempt beyond 165 (120 + 45), you will be charged out-of-state tuition rates.
    If you started your higher education Fall 2006 and thereafter, then for every credit hour you attempt beyond 150 (120 + 30), you will be charged out-of-state tuition rates.
    {Please note that all hours in which a student was enrolled at any Texas public institution of higher education, community college or 4-year public institution, are counted for the 45 or 30 hour cap whether or not the hours are accepted for transfer at Texas A&M University-Commerce.}
    You may appeal this rule by filling out the 30/45 Hour Appeal Form
    The Transfer Center and Advisors from the Advising Center understand Texas state law perfectly from my experience with them. They have all noted that they are bumping heads with the Music Advisors and all are questioning why students are taking all of those crazy credit hours they have been placed in by the Music Advisors. Students that go across campus to talk to folks outside of the music building get the shock of their lives. I have had students telling me that the Transfer Center people don't know what they are talking about. Not a mystery to me who is telling them that nonsense. Though numerous documents indicate students are to go so Career Services, explore colleges to transfer to and visit the Transfer Center as Freshman, the Music Advisors do not tell students any of that and do not send the students for the appropriate services. The Music Advisors keep insisting that they need to do all the advising and course placement for students. As we can see the results are disastrous!

    Derrick Logozzo claimed in a recital class that the Guided Pathways was incorrect. That is a bold faced lie. The numbers of credit classes are perfect. The only change necessary is to spread the private lessons out evenly at 2credit hours per semester and not 1-3 in only the Sophomore year. Logozzo doesn't want his instrumental students to follow the Guided Pathway and take only 1 ensemble per semester for 4 semester and only 1 (2 credit hour private lesson) Muap per semester for 4 semesters. He wants them to fill numerous chairs that will put them way over credit hours and possibly in out of state tuition. The Music Advisors are dooming these students to possible mountains of student loan debt as well. Malfeasance in advising demands the advisors be removed!

    https://www.richlandcollege.edu/cd/g...e_fosmusic.pdf

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    Excessive Hours – Office of Records and Registration – The University of Texas at ArlingtonWhat is meant by Excessive Hours?

    Texas Education Code § 54.014 specifies that resident undergraduate students who initially enrolled as an undergraduate student in an institution of higher education fall semester 1999 and later may be subject to a higher tuition rate for attempting excessive hours at any Texas public institution of higher education while classified as a resident student for tuition purposes.

    • Undergraduate students who enrolled initially in the fall 1999 semester or subsequent semesters cannot exceed more than 45 hours of the number of hours required for completion of the degree plan in which they are enrolled. Any hours beyond 45 are considered excessive and may result in additional tuition charges.
    • Undergraduate students who enrolled initially in the fall 2006 semester or subsequent semesters cannot exceed more than 30 hours of the number of hours required for completion of the degree plan in which they are enrolled. Any hours beyond 30 are considered excessive and may result in additional tuition charges.

    Purpose of Excessive Hours Policy

    The purpose of these policies is to encourage students to complete their degree programs in an efficient, timely manner.


    What counts toward the Excessive Hours Policy?

    Courses that count towards the excessive hour calculation are those attempted at any Texas public institution of higher education. This includes:


    • Hours earned in courses in which a grade is earned on the transcript;
    • Courses dropped with a grade of “W”, “F”,”Q” or equivalent;
    • Hours excluded from the student record resulting from Academic Fresh Start;
    • Hours excluded through use of Grade Exclusion;
    • Hours replaced through use of Grade Replacement.

    Degree plan hours include the total number of hours required for a student to complete his or her degree plan. If you are an intended or undeclared major, your degree plan hours default to a count of 120. Students with excessive hours are encouraged to contact their academic advisor to review their degree plan and insure that it is complete, accurate and to verify the hours required for completion.

    You may apply for graduation; however, application for graduation does not preclude out-of-state tuition.


    Exceptions to the Excessive Hours Policy

    The semester credit hours counted toward the limitation include all hours attempted by the student except:


    • Semester credit hours earned by the student before receiving a baccalaureate degree that has been previously awarded.
    • Semester credit hours earned by the student by examination or under any other procedure by which credit is granted without registering for a course for which tuition is charged.
    • Credit for remedial education courses, technical courses, workforce education courses funded according to contact hours, or other courses that do not count toward a degree program at the institution.
    • Semester credit hours earned by the student at a private or an out-of-state institution.
    • Semester credit hours that are repeatable for credit.



    Requirement to update academic records

    UT Arlington students who also enroll at other institutions of higher education have an obligation to ensure that UT Arlington has a complete and accurate academic record. Students who enroll in coursework at other institutions must transfer all records of that course work to UT Arlington’s Office of Admissions, Records and Registration at the conclusion of each semester.


    Recommended Action

    We urge you to work with your academic advisor closely to determine the shortest path to completion of your degree. For a list of academic advisors: http://www.uta.edu/universitycollege/current/academic-planning/uac.

    If you do not meet the admission requirements for your desired major or cannot graduate in a timely way from the degree program in which you are enrolled, we strongly recommend that you consider changing to a different major. UTA offers bachelors, masters and doctoral degrees within 12 academic units. For guidance in choosing a major that is a good fit for you based upon your interests and skills, please work with your academic advisor.


    One of Derrick Logozzo's pet students, who is way over hours and could face out of state tuition when transferring, laughed it off and opined that they would just appeal it as if it was no big deal. Not so simple. Clearly these state universities that will get zero (as in no) state dollars for you are taking a stand. UTA is suggesting changing majors or applying for graduation knowing you will likely be paying out of state tuition. A & M Commerce allows only 1 appeal during the final graduating semester and the form asks for the extenuating circumstances that led to the excess hours. Other colleges also offer a last semester appeal for documented hardships. Many of these poor students find out from a letter in the mail after transferring. Not a happy surprise!

    The Music Advising will be cleaned up on my watch. The Music Department needs to be admitting only candidates that are actually qualified. The department needs to put the students in college level theory and 1 lesson and 1 ensemble. The students need honest and thorough evaluation so that only those with the ability and work ethic to succeed in music go forward in the program. All music students need to see Career Services in their first semester to make sure they have chosen a degree path that is right for them. That should be followed by further advising with real advisors and an appointment with the transfer advisor. The transfer advisor can put them in touch with the admissions offices for the college(s) of their choice and get them paperwork so they can register for only classes that will transfer to the school(s) of their choice. It would be best if students had met with their school(s) of choice before ever coming to Richland, but that doesn't always happen so drastic action to get and keep them on track must happen in their first semester.

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    Re: DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Texas A & M University campus form:
    1Excessive Hours Appeal Form

    The purpose of this form is to give students with extenuating circumstance the opportunity to appeal the excessive hours fee.

    This form needs to be completed and submitted by the student by the appropriate deadline published on the Excessive Hours Website. Appeals can only be considered for the situations listed below; unfortunately, no other reasons can be considered. Please see the excessive hours website for more information and deadlines:

    Excessive Hours Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi. The appeals process may include an interview at the discretion of the Appeals Committee. Once completed please submit the form and all required documentation electronically to excesshours@tamucc.edu .

    Documentation supporting the request must be submitted with the Appeals Form for it to be considered. I, (Name), (Student ID/A number), wish to appeal the excessive hour fee because the following extenuating circumstance affected my enrollment status, caused undue hardship, and resulted in attempted hours being accumulated.

    Tell us about yourself: Current Major: Concentration (if applicable):Total Hours Required for the Degree:(Check Degree Works) Projected Term of Graduation:

    Select all that apply:

    I was enrolled in college classes while I was a high school student, and I believe these dual enrollment classes are being calculated into my excessive hours. Submit copy of high school transcript to Applying as a transferring freshman Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi. High School:__________________________________ Month/Year of Graduation:________________

    I was called to active military duty during a semester in which I was enrolled and my absence negatively affected my academic performance. Date of activation Attach copy of military orders.

    I took a Title IX approved leave of absence during a semester in which I was enrolled. Provide documentation/confirmation from Title IX Office from the institution that handled your case.

    My documented disability negatively affected my academic performance. Provide documentation from the Disability Services Office at the institution where you accumulated hours to show that you had a documented disability that caused excessive hours to be accumulated.

    I had a medical emergency during my time as a student that caused me to withdraw from the university. Date of Withdrawal:Provide medical documentation if withdrawal is from a non-TAMU-CC institution.

    I had a medical emergency during my time as a student that negatively affected my academic performance. Provide supporting documentation.

    A family member passed away during a semester in which I was enrolled and the death negatively affected my academic performance. Provide supporting documentation.

    I had the responsibility for providing care for a sick, injured, or needy person and providing said care affected my academic performance. Provide supporting documentation.

    I am in the last semester of the ROTC program for commissioning as an officer. Provide signed degree plan....

    Reasons appeals will not be accepted:
    part-time status, work schedule, academic suspension, sanctions assessed due to code of conduct violations, situations involving academic misconduct, courses repeated to improve a grade in order to enter into a particular program, academic advising challenges, change of major, financial implications, course load, etc.

    In the space provided, please provide a detailed statement on how the reasons above caused you to accumulate excessive hours. (REQUIRED)Current Contact Information Phone Number:Email Address:3Digital SignatureDateI certify the information provided above is true and correct. I am attaching supporting documentation detailing and documenting my unusual/extenuating circumstances. I understand the contents of this appeal and that the decision of the Appeals Committee is final. Once you click the submit button you will have an option to e-mail the form via several services, including your default e-mail program. Be sure to attach any supporting documentation before sending. If you have trouble submitting the form automatically, save the form to your computer and email it, along with any supporting documentation, to excesshours@tamucc.edu.
    Whining that Derrick Logozzo and Melissa Logan put me in all those hours will not rescue the students from out of state tuition. These colleges are waiving out of state tuition for legitimate cause only. These rogue Music Advisors need to be removed immediately and students need to be under the care of real advisors and the Transfer Center so that they will be placed only in courses on real degree plans.
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    Re: DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Bachelor of Music (B.M.) Major in Music Studies (Choral Concentration Teacher Certification in Music, Early Childhood Through Grade 12) | Texas State University

    Bachelor of Music (B.M.) Major in Music Studies (Instrumental Concentration Teacher Certification in Music, Early Childhood Through Grade 12) | Texas State University

    Bachelor of Music (B.M.) Major in Performance (Jazz Concentration) | Texas State University

    Bachelor of Music (B.M.) Major in Performance (Instrumental Concentration) | Texas State University

    Bachelor of Music (B.M.) Major in Performance (Vocal Concentration) | Texas State University

    For transfer students, 31 semester credit hours in Music (or equivalents) may be transferred from a Texas public institution of higher education for the Music Field of Study and be applied to the Bachelor of Music degree with a major in Music Studies at Texas State University. More information about the Field of Study is available in the Academic Policies section of this catalog. The transferable Texas Common Course Number (TCCN) is listed below the Texas State University course number in the following course list.

    Code Title Hours
    MU 1315 Music Theory I 3
    TCCN: MUSI 1311
    MU 1316 Music Theory II 3
    TCCN: MUSI 1312
    MU 2315 Music Theory III 3
    TCCN: MUSI 2311
    MU 2316 Music Theory IV 3
    TCCN: MUSI 2312
    MU 1115 Aural Skills I 1
    TCCN: MUSI 1116
    MU 1116 Aural Skills II 1
    TCCN: MUSI 1117
    MU 2115 Aural Skills III 1
    TCCN: MUSI 2116
    MU 2116 Aural Skills IV 1
    TCCN: MUSI 2117
    MU 2303 Survey of Music Literature 3
    TCCN: MUSI 1307
    4 semester credit hours of Ensembles from the following: MUSE 3124, MUSE 3125, MUSE 3140 and MUSE 3141 4
    TCCN: 4 hours from MUEN 11XX and 21XX
    8 semester credit hours of Applied Study from the following: MUSP 1220 and MUSP 2220 8
    TCCN: 8 hours from MUAP 11XX, 12XX, 21XX and 22XX
    Total Hours 31
    That constitutes exactly what is in the Guided Pathway at Richland. The new Music 1307 is now part of the core curriculum. So for the millionth time, anyone who is going to transfer to a 4 year state university should take what is on the Guided Pathway and no additional hours that clearly are never going to transfer.

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    Re: DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    2018-19 Collin College Catalog

    Please refer to
    http://www.collin.edu/academics/programs/index.html for the most current information.

    The Music field of study (FOS) provides approved courses for music majors who intend to transfer to a college or university and further their musical studies. The curriculum offers the required music theory, ear training, keyboard skills, music literature, private applied study and ensemble participation that all music majors must complete during their freshman and sophomore years. Upon completion of the field of study curriculum, a certificate will be awarded to acknowledge completion and readiness to transition from an associate level to a baccalaureate (BA/BS) level, at any Texas public institution.The college is also home to several ensembles and musical groups, allowing you to explore your abilities with other like-minded musicians in a comfortable setting. College facilities even provide a venue to share your talent with the world.

    A Field of Study is a set of courses that will transfer and
    apply to a corresponding bachelor’s -level degree at a Texas college or university. Both the Field of Study and the Core Curriculum courses are transferable for full academic credit to any public college or university in Texas. Students who complete the Field of Study block of courses will earn a certificate in that Field of Study. Did you know that you can also earn an AA or AS degree in addition to the Field of Study certificate?

    Certificate Music Field of Study
    31 credit hours

    Ensemble
    4 credit hours (Richland's MUEN)
    MUEN X1XX Ensemble (4 semesters) 1

    Applied Study 8 credit hours MUAP X2XXApplied Music (4 semesters) 2

    Theory / Sight Singing & Ear Training
    16 credit hours
    MUSI
    1116 Sight Singing & Ear Training I
    MUSI
    1117 Sight Singing & Ear Training II
    MUSI
    1311 Music Theory I
    MUSI
    1312 Music Theory II
    MUSI
    2116 Sight Singing & Ear Training III
    MUSI 2117 Sight Singing & Ear Training IV
    MUSI
    2311 Music Theory III
    MUSI
    2312
    Music Theory IV

    Literature
    3 credit hours MUSI1307 MusicLiterature 3 (Core Class)

    Recommended Courses for Piano Proficiency
    Keyboard (Piano) Competency 4 credit hours
    MUSI
    1181 Piano Class I
    MUSI
    1182 PianoClass II
    MUSI
    2181 Piano Class III
    MUS I
    2182 PianoClass IV
    Baccalaureate Music programs require piano proficiency
    although the piano skills courses are not part of the guaranteed transfer block. Students are encouraged to take the keyboard competency courses in addition to completion of the Music Field of Study prior to transfer. Students may take a barrier exam to identify the need to take the courses

    DEGREE REQUIREMENTS Associate of Arts Degree Requirements
    The following requirements must be met for an AA
    :1.Earn a minimum of 60 college-level credit hours.
    2.Complete the General Education Core of 42 credit hours.
    3.
    Earn a minimum cumulative grade point average (GPA) of 2.0.
    4.
    Earn a minimum of 18 credit hours at CollinCollege.
    5.
    Complete a minimum of 18 additional credit hours of degree requirements and general studies electives.......

    The certificate of completion for a specific FOS is awarded to guarantee transfer of the courses contained in the FOS curriculum freely among Texas public colleges. The FOS courses are statutorily required to be accepted as the first two years of program coursework in a related bachelor’s degree
    So, an Associate's Degree, which in Collin County puts one at core complete plus the Field of Study in Music, is 70 hours plus any piano class needed for proficiency should one decide to take it. Of course, 66 hours is the most that a state university is likely to accept so that must be kept in mind. One may wish to cut out a few core classes if they are positive that they are going to transfer and complete their degree, but this is a very reasonable program. Collin College does not have rogue advisors placing students in excess hours from what I am told. I am sure a lot of Richland students are wishing they had driven a few miles further from home and taken classes at Collin College.
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    Re: DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Eastfield College [EFC]
    MUAP-2281-43201 (1191486)
    Voice Class Ended
    TBA
    PRVT

    M T W R F


    Padamsee, Farah / Vita EFC
    2
    Jan 28, 2019
    May 16, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Class Ended
    eCampus
    Flex Term Jan
    Self Paced
    Course Description
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Co-requisites
    MUEN-2141-43200
    (1192568)
    Chorus
    F117
    LAB

    T R
    01:00 PM - 02:20 PM

    1/28/2019 - 5/16/2019

    MUSI-9176-43001
    (1192864)
    Recital
    F117
    LAB

    W
    01:00 PM - 01:50 PM

    1/22/2019 - 5/16/2019
    Comments:
    NOTE: Private music lessons at EFC are intended for musicians and by audition only. Beginner musicicans can enroll in MUSI 1181 (Piano Class I) MUSI 1192 (Guitar Class I) or MUSI 1183 (Voice Class I). Students enrolled in MUAP 1101 through MUAP 2281 MUST also be enrolled in a MUEN ensemble and MUSI 9176 recital class. Other work completed online. Contact Dr. Passley for more information oscarpassley@dcccd.edu.

    MUAP-2269-43200 (1191477)
    Piano Class Ended
    TBA
    PRVT

    M T W R F


    Mouledous, Pierrette / Vita EFC
    2
    Jan 28, 2019
    May 16, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Class Ended
    eCampus
    Flex Term Jan
    Self Paced
    Course Description
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Co-requisites
    MUEN-1131-43200
    (1192531)
    Keyboard Ensemble
    F121
    LAB

    T R
    08:00 AM - 09:20 AM

    1/28/2019 - 5/16/2019

    MUSI-9176-43001
    (1192864)
    Recital
    F117
    LAB

    W
    01:00 PM - 01:50 PM

    1/22/2019 - 5/16/2019
    Comments:
    NOTE: Private music lessons at EFC are intended for musicians and by audition only. Beginner musicicans can enroll in MUSI 1181 (Piano Class I) MUSI 1192 (Guitar Class I) or MUSI 1183 (Voice Class I). Students enrolled in MUAP 1101 through MUAP 2281 MUST also be enrolled in a MUEN ensemble and MUSI 9176 recital class. Other work completed online. Contact Dr. Passley for more information oscarpassley@dcccd.edu.

    Eastfield College [EFC]
    MUAP-2261-43200 (1191473)
    Guitar Class Ended
    TBA
    PRVT

    M T W R F


    Healy, John / Vita EFC
    2
    Jan 28, 2019
    May 16, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Class Ended
    eCampus
    Flex Term Jan
    Self Paced
    Course Description
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Co-requisites
    MUSI-9176-43001
    (1192864)
    Recital
    F117
    LAB

    W
    01:00 PM - 01:50 PM

    1/22/2019 - 5/16/2019

    MUEN-1134-43200
    (1192556)
    Guitar Ensemble
    F112
    LAB

    T R
    01:00 PM - 02:20 PM

    1/28/2019 - 5/16/2019
    Comments:
    NOTE: Private music lessons at EFC are intended for musicians and by audition only. Beginner musicicans can enroll in MUSI 1181 (Piano Class I) MUSI 1192 (Guitar Class I) or MUSI 1183 (Voice Class I). Students enrolled in MUAP 1101 through MUAP 2281 MUST also be enrolled in a MUEN ensemble and MUSI 9176 recital class. Other work completed online. Contact Dr. Passley for more information oscarpassley@dcccd.edu.
    MUAP-2261-43201 (1191475)
    Guitar Class Ended
    TBA
    PRVT

    M T W R F


    Garrison, Nathan / Vita EFC
    2
    Jan 28, 2019
    May 16, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Class Ended
    eCampus
    Flex Term Jan
    Self Paced
    Course Description
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Co-requisites
    MUSI-9176-43001
    (1192864)
    Recital
    F117
    LAB

    W
    01:00 PM - 01:50 PM

    1/22/2019 - 5/16/2019

    MUEN-1122-43200
    (1191494)
    Jazz Ensemble
    F114
    LAB

    T R
    01:00 PM - 02:20 PM

    1/28/2019 - 5/16/2019
    Comments:
    NOTE: Private music lessons at EFC are intended for musicians and by audition only. Beginner musicicans can enroll in MUSI 1181 (Piano Class I) MUSI 1192 (Guitar Class I) or MUSI 1183 (Voice Class I). Students enrolled in MUAP 1101 through MUAP 2281 MUST also be enrolled in a MUEN ensemble and MUSI 9176 recital class. Other work completed online. Contact Dr. Passley for more information oscarpassley@dcccd.edu.
    MUAP-2258-43200 (1191471)
    Drum Set Class Ended
    TBA
    PRVT

    M T W R F


    Bosarge, Randell / Vita EFC
    2
    Jan 28, 2019
    May 16, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Class Ended
    eCampus
    Flex Term Jan
    Self Paced
    Course Description
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Co-requisites
    MUEN-1122-43200
    (1191494)
    Jazz Ensemble
    F114
    LAB

    T R
    01:00 PM - 02:20 PM

    1/28/2019 - 5/16/2019

    MUSI-9176-43001
    (1192864)
    Recital
    F117
    LAB

    W
    01:00 PM - 01:50 PM

    1/22/2019 - 5/16/2019
    Comments:
    NOTE: Private music lessons at EFC are intended for musicians and by audition only. Beginner musicicans can enroll in MUSI 1181 (Piano Class I) MUSI 1192 (Guitar Class I) or MUSI 1183 (Voice Class I). Students enrolled in MUAP 1101 through MUAP 2281 MUST also be enrolled in a MUEN ensemble and MUSI 9176 recital class. Other work completed online. Contact Dr. Passley for more information oscarpassley@dcccd.edu.
    MUAP-2233-43200 (1191465)
    Saxophone Class Ended
    TBA
    PRVT

    M T W R F


    Lampman, Karlton / Vita EFC
    2
    Jan 28, 2019
    May 16, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Class Ended
    eCampus
    Flex Term Jan
    Self Paced
    Course Description
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Co-requisites
    MUSI-9176-43001
    (1192864)
    Recital
    F117
    LAB

    W
    01:00 PM - 01:50 PM

    1/22/2019 - 5/16/2019

    MUEN-1122-43200
    (1191494)
    Jazz Ensemble
    F114
    LAB

    T R
    01:00 PM - 02:20 PM

    1/28/2019 - 5/16/2019
    Comments:
    NOTE: Private music lessons at EFC are intended for musicians and by audition only. Beginner musicicans can enroll in MUSI 1181 (Piano Class I) MUSI 1192 (Guitar Class I) or MUSI 1183 (Voice Class I). Students enrolled in MUAP 1101 through MUAP 2281 MUST also be enrolled in a MUEN ensemble and MUSI 9176 recital class. Other work completed online. Contact Dr. Passley for more information oscarpassley@dcccd.edu.

    MUAP-2215-43201 (1191461)
    Electric Bass Class Ended
    TBA
    PRVT

    M T W R F


    Harlas, Louis / Vita EFC
    2
    Jan 28, 2019
    May 16, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Class Ended
    eCampus
    Flex Term Jan
    Self Paced
    Course Description
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Co-requisites
    MUSI-9176-43001
    (1192864)
    Recital
    F117
    LAB

    W
    01:00 PM - 01:50 PM

    1/22/2019 - 5/16/2019

    MUEN-1122-43200
    (1191494)
    Jazz Ensemble
    F114
    LAB

    T R
    01:00 PM - 02:20 PM

    1/28/2019 - 5/16/2019
    Comments:
    NOTE: Private music lessons at EFC are intended for musicians and by audition only. Beginner musicicans can enroll in MUSI 1181 (Piano Class I) MUSI 1192 (Guitar Class I) or MUSI 1183 (Voice Class I). Students enrolled in MUAP 1101 through MUAP 2281 MUST also be enrolled in a MUEN ensemble and MUSI 9176 recital class. Other work completed online. Contact Dr. Passley for more information oscarpassley@dcccd.edu.

    MUAP-2209-43200 (1191460)
    Cello Class Ended
    TBA
    PRVT

    M T W R F


    Myers, John / Vita EFC
    2
    Jan 28, 2019
    May 16, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Class Ended
    eCampus
    Flex Term Jan
    Self Paced
    Course Description
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Co-requisites
    MUEN-1136-43200
    (1192566)
    String Ensemble
    F117
    LAB

    F

    1/28/2019 - 5/16/2019

    MUSI-9176-43001
    (1192864)
    Recital
    F117
    LAB

    W
    01:00 PM - 01:50 PM

    1/22/2019 - 5/16/2019
    Comments:
    NOTE: Private music lessons at EFC are intended for musicians and by audition only. Beginner musicicans can enroll in MUSI 1181 (Piano Class I) MUSI 1192 (Guitar Class I) or MUSI 1183 (Voice Class I). Students enrolled in MUAP 1101 through MUAP 2281 MUST also be enrolled in a MUEN ensemble and MUSI 9176 recital class. Other work completed online. Contact Dr. Passley for more information oscarpassley@dcccd.edu.

    There is Eastfield College doing it right. The student takes 1 private lesson / MUAP (2 credit hours,) 1 co-requisite ensemble MUEN and recital. 4 semesters of this is guaranteed transferable as part of the field of study and will not put the student in out of state tuition. Until, recently, Richland's Music Department had no MUAP available in the summer. That was a good thing. Then students can do 4 regular semesters and use the summers for more core classes and transfer with an Associate's Degree with a field of study in music and no excess credit hours.

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    Re: DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Richland College [RLC]
    MUEN-2141-81002 (1221349)
    Womens Chorus: la Vox Femina Add Class

    12 enrolled
    F176
    LAB

    M W F
    12:20 PM - 01:15 PM
    Logan, Melissa / Vita RLC
    1
    Aug 26, 2019
    Dec 12, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Open Seats: 3
    Capacity: 15
    eCampus Course Description
    Find Class Availability
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Comments:
    Note: La Vox Femina. Contact Director Melissa Logan, 972.238.6284, melissalogan@dcccd.edu for information.
    MUEN-2141-81003 (1221365)
    Chorus: Mens's Chorale Add Class

    9 enrolled
    F176
    LAB

    M W F
    01:40 PM - 02:35 PM
    Logan, Melissa / Vita RLC
    1
    Aug 26, 2019
    Dec 12, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Open Seats: 6
    Capacity: 15
    eCampus Course Description
    Find Class Availability
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Comments:
    Note: Richmen. Contact Director Melissa logan, 972.238.6284, melissalogan@dcccd.edu for information.

    Course-Num-Sect (Reg#)
    Title
    Class Meeting
    Information
    Faculty Information Loc
    Credits
    Start / End Dates
    Open Seats / Capacity
    Class
    Features
    Links
    Richland College [RLC]
    MUEN-1153-81001 (1221290)
    Madrigal Singers.:jazz Singers Add Class

    14 enrolled
    F176
    LAB

    M W F
    02:45 PM - 03:40 PM
    Logan, Melissa / Vita RLC
    1
    Aug 26, 2019
    Dec 12, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Open Seats: 1
    Capacity: 15
    eCampus Course Description
    Find Class Availability
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Comments:
    Note: Jazz Singers. Audition required. Contact Director Melissa Logan, 972-238-6284, melisalogan@dcccd.edu for information.

    Course-Num-Sect (Reg#)
    Title
    Class Meeting
    Information
    Faculty Information Loc
    Credits
    Start / End Dates
    Open Seats / Capacity
    Class
    Features
    Links
    Richland College [RLC]
    MUEN-1151-81001 (1221151)
    Vocal Ens.: Chamber Singers Add Class

    31 enrolled
    F176
    LAB

    M W F
    11:15 AM - 12:10 PM
    Logan, Melissa / Vita RLC
    1
    Aug 26, 2019
    Dec 12, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Open Seats: 19
    Capacity: 50
    eCampus Course Description
    Find Class Availability
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Comments:
    NOTE: A Cappella. Mixed Choir. Audition required. Contact Director Melissa Logan at 972.238.6284, melissalogan@dcccd.edu for information.
    MUSI-1183-81002 (1221577)
    Voice Master Class Add Class
    WH116
    LAB

    T R
    12:30 PM - 01:50 PM
    Griffin-Dyer, Beverly / Vita RLC
    1
    Aug 26, 2019
    Dec 12, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Open Seats: 7
    Capacity: 20
    eCampus Course Description
    Find Class Availability
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Comments:
    Note: Required for voice majors and students enrolled in MUAP 1181 or MUAP 2281. Contact Director Melissa Logan, 972.238.6281, melissalogan@dcccd.edu for placement.
    MUSI-1183-81003 (1221578)
    Voice Master Class Add Class

    31 enrolled in both sections total
    F176
    LAB

    T R
    12:30 PM - 01:50 PM
    Arduino, Natalie / Vita RLC
    1
    Aug 26, 2019
    Dec 12, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Open Seats: 2
    Capacity: 20
    eCampus Course Description
    Find Class Availability
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Comments:
    Note: Required for voice majors and students enrolled in MUAP 1181 or MUAP 2281. Contact Director Melissa Logan, 972.238.6281, melissalogan@dcccd.edu for placement.
    Richland College [RLC]
    MUAP-2281-81001 (1218315)
    Voice Add Class

    31 enrolled in all sections total
    TBA
    PRVT

    M T W R F
    Griffin-Dyer, Beverly / Vita RLC
    2
    Aug 26, 2019
    Dec 12, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Open Seats: 7
    Capacity: 10
    Course Description
    Find Class Availability
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Comments:
    All MUAP 2281 courses require co-enrollment in MUSI 9176, MUSI 1184, and MUSI 2161.
    MUAP-2281-81002 (1218316)
    Voice Add Class
    TBA
    PRVT

    M T W R F
    Moon, Yea Lim / Vita RLC
    2
    Aug 26, 2019
    Dec 12, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Open Seats: 6
    Capacity: 10
    Course Description
    Find Class Availability
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Comments:
    All MUAP 2281 courses require co-enrollment in MUSI 9176, MUSI 1184, and MUSI 2161.
    MUAP-2281-81003 (1218317)
    Voice Add Class
    TBA
    PRVT

    M T W R F
    Brooks, Robert / Vita RLC
    2
    Aug 26, 2019
    Dec 12, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Open Seats: 5
    Capacity: 10
    Course Description
    Find Class Availability
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Comments:
    All MUAP 2281 courses require co-enrollment in MUSI 9176, MUSI 1184, and MUSI 2161.
    MUAP-2281-81004 (1218318)
    Voice Add Class
    TBA
    PRVT

    M T W R F
    Arduino, Natalie / Vita RLC
    2
    Aug 26, 2019
    Dec 12, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Open Seats: 6
    Capacity: 10
    Course Description
    Find Class Availability
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Comments:
    All MUAP 2281 courses require co-enrollment in MUSI 9176, MUSI 1184, and MUSI 2161.
    MUAP-2281-81005 (1218319)
    Voice Add Class
    TBA
    PRVT

    M T W R F
    Talley-Crowder, Shannon / Vita RLC
    2
    Aug 26, 2019
    Dec 12, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Open Seats: 4
    Capacity: 10
    Course Description
    Find Class Availability
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Comments:
    All MUAP 2281 courses require co-enrollment in MUSI 9176, MUSI 1184, and MUSI 2161
    MUAP-2281-81006 (1218320)
    Voice Add Class
    TBA
    PRVT

    M T W R F
    Pinder, Edward / Vita RLC
    2
    Aug 26, 2019
    Dec 12, 2019
    (16 weeks)
    Open Seats: 1
    Capacity: 10
    Course Description
    Find Class Availability
    Class Syllabus
    Textbook Info
    Comments:
    NOTE: All MUAP 2281 courses require co-enrollment in MUSI 9176, MUSI 1184, and MUSI 2161 and 1 related ensemble.
    MUSI-1303-81002 (1227567)
    Fundamentals of Music Add Class
    11 enrolled
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    NOTE: Pre-College Music Theory course.

    Melissa Logan has apparently enrolled all (or virtually all) of her 31 top choir students in voice lessons. First this is a community college. Community members and credit students from high schools should be coming in just to sing in the choir. For recent high school graduates who are under the new state law and could face out of state tuition that are not music majors, there should very few taking private lessons and those who do should be carefully counting credit hours. The 4 year universities welcome students into their ensembles who are not music majors, but come from high school programs. Richland should have numerous choir members that are recent high school graduates and a number of older students that want to just make music. So, 31 Chambers Singers and 31 voice major students signed up for private lessons and the non-existent Voice Masterclass tells the whole story.

    The Department of Music offers undergraduate and graduate degrees in Music Education and Performance. As a music major at A&M-Commerce you’ll have many opportunities to participate in studio recitals and master classes with your studio professor and with nationally recognized guest musicians. You will also have the opportunity to participate in the Wind Ensemble, Symphonic Band, Concert Band, Chorale or University Singers. Placement in these ensembles is determined by auditions held at the beginning of each semester. Participation in these ensembles is also open to non-music majors by audition and we welcome students, regardless of major, to join us!......The Texas A & M University Commerce Pride Marching Band is the largest and most spirited student organization on the Texas A & M University Commerce campus and draws its membership from the entire student body, representing numerous states and most majors.
    Dr. Crawford retired and Melissa Logan was hired to replace him. She has run off the community members in droves. There are virtually none left. The ones who invited me to return to my Richland choir have either passed away or left. I was at Richland for 5 years and sang in the top choir, filled in for the accompanist of the top choir and accompanied the pop choir as well. Logan kicked me out of my own choir twice when I tried to register and also kicked me out of opera workshop when I signed up as continuing education. I have tried to get voice lessons and am always wait listed and bumped out as she is still "advising," which translates into holding lessons for students that she is likely putting in lessons over hours they can transfer. Richland is supposed to be first come first served, so if returning students can't be bothered to register during priority registration, then they should lose their spots. All universities register those closest to graduation first, but holding spots past the early registration dates provided for returning students is totally unethical. I left Richland with a vocal scholarship and received my Bachelor's of Music from E.T.S.U. The Richland choral program has been totally decimated. When alumnae are not welcome and degreed professionals cannot sing in their own choir there are serious problems. Logan is now taking young people and placing them in numerous credit hours that will not transfer or count toward any degree and that may well place them in out of state tuition. Logan in addition to not following degree plans, is not sending students to Career Serivces or the Transfer Center. Many of her students do not have any degree plan chosen that will lead to gainful employment. She is wasting their in state college tuition hours on music without advising them of that fact. It is painfully clear that students are music education (voice concentration) or voice performance majors when that may be a poor choice of majors for them as they are not likely to be able to complete a four year degree in those disciplines.

    Melissa Logan has also put gobs of students (likely her own choir kids) into Fundamentals of Theory again. That is not for music majors and will not transfer (more hours toward out of state tuition hell.)

    Crawford said if there is one thing he has loved about being choral director, it’s the challenge of taking somebody from Point A to Point B – singers and musicians in general, especially at this level because this is such a diversity of backgrounds.

    “If you would look at my chamber singers, which number about 40, you would see everybody from 18 years old to 70 years old, with a variety of backgrounds,” Crawford said. “I’ve taught on all levels—elementary school, high school, junior high, at a four-year college, and I’ve had a professional group.”
    Sadly, Richland is not serving its transfer students, students in other majors or community members well with this disaster of a choral program. Please note how large and diverse the choirs were under Dr. Crawford, who welcomed all ages and backgrounds.


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    Re: DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Excessive Hours - Registrar - The University of Texas at Dallas

    Excessive Hours | Office of the Registrar
    Beginning with fall 2007, UNT undergraduate students who are classified as Texas Residents and those who pay in state tuition rates will be subject to an additional excessive hour tuition rate. Please refer to sfs.unt.edu/tuition-and-fees for current tuition and fee information.

    Undergraduate Resident - College of Music
    Estimated Tuition and Fees for Fall 2019/Spring 2020 Estimated Cost
    Tuition $4,201.65
    Mandatory Fees $1,423.53
    Estimated Academic Fees & Differential Tuition $1,223.25
    Total $6,848.43

    Undergraduate Non-Resident - College of Music
    Estimated Tuition and Fees for Fall 2019/Spring 2020 Estimated Cost
    Tuition $10,531.65
    Mandatory Fees $1,423.53
    Estimated Academic Fees & Differential Tuition $1,223.25
    Total $13,178.43


    UT Tyler Registrar | Excessive Hours | Policies
    Students wishing to file an appeal of excessive hours-related tuition increases due to extenuating circumstances may submit a fully-documented Application for Appeal for consideration by the Student Appeals Committee. If such an appeal is approved, a waiver of the tuition increases due to excessive hours will be placed on the student's account for a single semester. Students who wish to appeal these charges for multiple semesters must file an appeal each semester.

    For students who have filed for graduation, an exemption to the payment of higher tuition for excessive hours in their graduating semester is available in the form of an automatically-approved Application for Appeal. While supporting documentation is not required, the student must formally request this exemption by submitting an Application for Appeal cover sheet and a typed letter noting they wish to claim this exemption. Because an active application or graduation must be confirmed before this exemption is processed, if a student submits this special appeal before applying for graduation, the appeal will be held without action until the Applying for Graduation process has been completed......

    Student Appeals

    Submitting an Appeal to the Student Appeals Committee:
    If an extraordinary situation other than grades adversely impacted your educational progress, you may submit an Application for Appeal form to have your appeal request considered by the Student Appeals Committee.

    All appeals submitted for consideration by the Student Appeals Committee, unless specifically noted as meeting an exception or special circumstance outlined on the Application for Appeal form, must include each of the following:

    • A typed statement including the specific extenuating circumstance(s) leading to the appeal, and the specific outcome the student wishes the Committee to consider granting.
    • A current degree plan, signed by the student's academic advisor, with the expected graduation term noted.
    • Thorough documentation to support each extenuating circumstance noted in the typed statement.

    Students should take the necessary time to document their appeals thoroughly before submission to the Enrollment Services Center (STE 230). As each appeal and the extenuating circumstances leading to them are unique, each student must arrive at their own decision about which documentation they feel best documents their claims and supports their appeal.
    Appeals submitted without appropriate documentation (and those submitted with no documentation) may be subject to automatic denial, as noted on the Application for Appeal form.
    Students will receive an email notification at their Patriots student email account regarding the outcome of their appeal after the Student Appeals Committee has reached its decision.
    http://www.sfasu.edu/controller/busi...ess_credit.asp
    The State of Texas does not provide funds to state institutions of higher education for excess semester credit hours attempted by a resident undergraduate student. Since funding will not be provided by the state, and as permitted by state law, students who exceed the maximum semester credit hour limit of their program, based on the chart below, will be charged an additional $200 per semester credit hour.
    https://www.uta.edu/records/courses/...sive-hours.php
    Students with excessive hours are encouraged to contact their academic advisor to review their degree plan and insure that it is complete, accurate and to verify the hours required for completion. You may apply for graduation; however, application for graduation does not preclude out-of-state tuition....
    Recommended Action

    We urge you to work with your academic advisor closely to determine the shortest path to completion of your degree. For a list of academic advisors: http://www.uta.edu/universitycollege/current/academic-planning/uac.

    If you do not meet the admission requirements for your desired major or cannot graduate in a timely way from the degree program in which you are enrolled, we strongly recommend that you consider changing to a different major.
    https://www.tamuk.edu/registrar/RGAD...ive-Hours.html
    Yes. They are held to the limit for the degree plan in which they are enrolled; no exceptions are made for students who change majors....

    No, financial aid does not cover excessive hour fee(s).

    Meet with your academic advisor to carefully review your academic goals and current degree plan to determine if all future coursework planned is necessary toward your degree.
    http://catalog.uthscsa.edu/generalinformation/excesscredithourspolicy/UNIVERSITY PROCEDURE

    Students’ Responsibilities


    • Undergraduate students must submit all official transcripts from previously attended institutions as excess hours are not based on Health Science Center data but on statewide data.
    • To avoid being charged nonresident tuition, resident students must be aware of the number of credit hours required for their degree and avoid taking more than the maximum hours above the program requirement.
    • Students should seek advisement from their respective department so that they may be assisted in creating a plan for degree completion, considering the impact of previous coursework, current semester credit hours attempted, and total allowable semester credit hours for attainment of the degree.

    Students are encouraged to use the table below to identify the maximum number of hours that they can take based on the hours required for their degree.

    Undergraduate

    Hours Required for Degree 45 Hr. Enrollment Cap 30 Hr. Enrollment Cap
    120 165 150
    123 168 153
    124 169 154
    127 172 157
    132 177 162
    Excessive Hours Appeal Form

    The purpose of this form is to give students with extenuating circumstance the opportunity to appeal the excessive hours fee.

    This form needs to be completed and submitted by the student by the appropriate deadline published on the Excessive Hours Website. Appeals can only be considered for the situations listed below; unfortunately, no other reasons can be considered. Please see the excessive hours website for more information and deadlines:

    Excessive Hours Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi. The appeals process may include an interview at the discretion of the Appeals Committee. Once completed please submit the form and all required documentation electronically to excesshours@tamucc.edu .

    Documentation supporting the request must be submitted with the Appeals Form for it to be considered. I, (Name), (Student ID/A number), wish to appeal the excessive hour fee because the following extenuating circumstance affected my enrollment status, caused undue hardship, and resulted in attempted hours being accumulated.

    Tell us about yourself: Current Major: Concentration (if applicable):Total Hours Required for the Degree:(Check Degree Works) Projected Term of Graduation:

    Select all that apply:

    I was enrolled in college classes while I was a high school student, and I believe these dual enrollment classes are being calculated into my excessive hours. Submit copy of high school transcript to Applying as a transferring freshman Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi. High School:__________________________________ Month/Year of Graduation:________________

    I was called to active military duty during a semester in which I was enrolled and my absence negatively affected my academic performance. Date of activation Attach copy of military orders.

    I took a Title IX approved leave of absence during a semester in which I was enrolled. Provide documentation/confirmation from Title IX Office from the institution that handled your case.

    My documented disability negatively affected my academic performance. Provide documentation from the Disability Services Office at the institution where you accumulated hours to show that you had a documented disability that caused excessive hours to be accumulated.

    I had a medical emergency during my time as a student that caused me to withdraw from the university. Date of Withdrawal:Provide medical documentation if withdrawal is from a non-TAMU-CC institution.

    I had a medical emergency during my time as a student that negatively affected my academic performance. Provide supporting documentation.

    A family member passed away during a semester in which I was enrolled and the death negatively affected my academic performance. Provide supporting documentation.

    I had the responsibility for providing care for a sick, injured, or needy person and providing said care affected my academic performance. Provide supporting documentation.

    I am in the last semester of the ROTC program for commissioning as an officer. Provide signed degree plan....

    Reasons appeals will not be accepted:
    part-time status, work schedule, academic suspension, sanctions assessed due to code of conduct violations, situations involving academic misconduct, courses repeated to improve a grade in order to enter into a particular program, academic advising challenges, change of major, financial implications, course load, etc.

    In the space provided, please provide a detailed statement on how the reasons above caused you to accumulate excessive hours. (REQUIRED)Current Contact Information Phone Number:Email Address:3Digital SignatureDateI certify the information provided above is true and correct. I am attaching supporting documentation detailing and documenting my unusual/extenuating circumstances. I understand the contents of this appeal and that the decision of the Appeals Committee is final. Once you click the submit button you will have an option to e-mail the form via several services, including your default e-mail program. Be sure to attach any supporting documentation before sending. If you have trouble submitting the form automatically, save the form to your computer and email it, along with any supporting documentation, to excesshours@tamucc.edu.
    http://registrar.tamu.edu/general/ex...x#0-Exceptions
    Excess Credit Hours

    Tuition Charged for Excess Credit Hours

    The State of Texas will not provide funds to state institutions of higher education for excess semester credit hours earned by a resident student. Since funding will not be provided by the State, and as permitted by State law, TAMU will charge tuition at the non-resident rate to all students that exceed the semester credit hour limit of their program.


    $10,030 approx. annual resident tuition*

    $35,208 approx. annual non-resident tuition*

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    Re: DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Procedures and Policies - West Texas A&M University - Acalog ACMS™
    Excess Undergraduate Credit Hours Rule

    The state of Texas will not provide funds to state institutions of higher education for excess semester credit hours earned by a resident student. Because funding will not be provided by the state, and as permitted by state law, West Texas A&M University will charge tuition at the non-resident rate to all students who exceed the semester credit hour limit for their program.....Students who have exceeded the allowable number of semester credit hours may receive a waiver of the non-resident rate if they are in their final semester, will graduate pending successful completion of their course work for that semester and there are extenuating circumstances that precluded their graduation within the allowable number of semester credit hours.
    Tuition Fees and Deposits - University of Texas Permian Basin - Acalog ACMS™
    Thirty Credit Hour Limit Rule

    Beginning the fall 2006 semester, first time freshmen, and entering freshmen thereafter, will be under the 30 Plus Hour Rule. The rule states that students who attempt more than 30 credit hours over their degree plan at Texas State funded institutions of higher education and have not yet earned a baccalaureate degree will be charged out-of-state tuition. Attempted hours include hours a student is registered for through the census class day. Any courses dropped prior to the census class day will not be considered attempted hours by the State. Students who have transcripted course work prior to the Fall of 2006 are grandfathered from the 30 Plus Hour Rule, but may be affected by the Forty-Five Credit Hour Limit Rule.
    The following semester credit hours are not included in the calculation:

    • semester credit hours earned by the student 10 or more years before the date the student begins the new degree program under the Academic Fresh Start Program of the Texas Education Code, § 51.931;
    • hours earned by the student before receiving a baccalaureate degree that has previously been awarded to the student;
    • hours earned by the student by examination or similar method without registering for a course
    • hours from remedial and developmental courses, workforce education courses, or other courses that would not generate academic credit that could be applied to a degree at the institution if the course work is within the 27-hour limit at two-year colleges and the 18-hour limit at general academic institutions
    • hours earned by the student at a private institution or an out-of-state institution;
    Excess Hours Beyond Degree Requirements The Texas Legislature established that universities will not receive funding for students entering higher education in Fall 1999 or later or who exceed 45 semester hours above the degree requirements. For students entering Fall 2006, this limit is 30 hours above the degree requirements. Effective Spring 2013, the Board of Regents has determined that MSU will assess an additional tuition charge of $150 per semester credit hour for excess semester credit hours in which students enroll above these limits. To avoid being charged extra tuition, students should be aware of the number of credit hours required for their degree programs and avoid taking excess hours. Numerous drops, withdrawals, and changes of degree programs can also affect this status.
    Excessive Hours : Student Business Services
    : Texas State University

    Undergraduate Excessive Hours
    Texas Education Code §54.014 specifies a maximum number of semester credit hours an undergraduate student may attempt while paying Texas resident tuition. Students who exceed the maximum hour limitations will be charged the non-resident tuition rate.
    6,643.58 vs. 14,239.58
    Music students have long brayed about how they were not worried about excess hours and were sure they would be able to successfully appeal. DCCCD and Richland College should require their advisors to post publicly on the college's webpage the name(s) of the Texas state universities that will guarantee Richland music students in state tuition regardless of the number of hours they have attempted. Misleading students and placing them in peril of having to pay out of state tuition for a music degree is beyond reprehensible.
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