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    Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam

    Well, the OC'ers have identified and classified their group of haters of OC. After all this time (5 years), they have finally figured out the category of haters against OneCoin. They were kind enough to publish the list for all to see, and I quote:

    "Dear_Haters!

    Is important to read this Article carefully. We live in sick world, it is known that people are easily attracted in controversy and negativity so bloggers and haters use OneCoin as popular name to label all sorts of spins, twists, lies to its name and make it dirty.

    1) – The first group of OneCoin haters are actually bitcoin people who believe OneCoin was projected as a scam from the beginning and they wanted to defend cryptocurrency from this, as they thought “possible usurper of cryptocurrency industry”. They give them selves right to decide that cryptocurrency can only be anonymous and decentralised and since OneCoin was the opposite, they did not understand it and they thought it was scam.

    2) – Since cryptocurrency is not backed up by gold, but by people who use it, OneCoin realized that the best crowd sale is MLM (multilevel marketing) so they came up with compensation plan and started producing leaders. This is reason why the second group of anti-OneCoiners are anti-MLM blogs.

    Those blogs fundamentally serve a good purpose. They try to expose pyramid scams that are popping all over the world especially within internet businesses. They compensate their time by earning money from visits and clicks.

    After reading several anti-MLM websites I would separate one: behindml as the most populated and alive. I read many of his news there. What I could see is that he is focusing only on bad events that each MLM has and it is around 5-10% of what is going on depending on company. There is no good events for any MLM business there.

    When you focus only on negative stuff you get consumed by negative energy and you start developing paranoid mentality where your judgement is clouded. I do not expect bloggers to understand this.
    Point is that they focus on negative info, and unfortunately in this sick world negativity attracts more people. So anti-MLM bloggers get “better”/worse over time cause negativity brings them more money.

    Of course they started making lies but they convince them selves those are true so it helps them better in debating. But deep inside they know what they are doing is illegal so they are very anonymous.
    It is up to people if they will believe people who hide their identity or real persons that are presenting business to them.

    So OneCoin is not exception here, in fact, being so popular and with incredible momentum for short time, OneCoin became n1 victim of those guys.

    3) – Third group of OneCoin haters are news and blogs tied to bitcoin and decentralised cryptocurrencies.

    Those blogs also earn money from visits and clicks and they tend to put anti-OneCoin news from time to time, not too pushy like anti-MLM blogs or dedicated anti-OneCoin disgusting templates but they seem to report all negative events attached to OneLife and those are actually not really important for OneCoin development.

    4) – Forth group of OneCoin haters are individual people who actually believe into all anti-OneCoin info.
    They tend to waste their time surfing on every facebook, video or blog positive news and try to post there anti-OneCoin propaganda.

    For long time they did not have resistance so they became more confident in their twisted belief because they thought “if no one can argue with what I am convinced in then it must be true. When they start getting arguments it becomes clear that they are blinded by belief in anti-OneCoin info spread around and we end up talking about opinions, not facts.

    Those anti-OneCoin info was not released by amateur people, rather by slander professionals so it is easy to catch certain persons and make them your useful idiot. They go around and waste their life fighting cause that is not their own, they have nothing to gain, but they are being useful for those who fabricated everything. Over the course of almost three years, onecoin haters from this group were exchanged.

    First movers realised that company is not collapsing, they saw their resistance is futile, and they stop appearing, return to their life, but new ones are born.

    5) – Which leads us to group number five.
    Here are self centered people who are not actually talking about OneCoin, they are talking about them selves but they do not realise that. In fact, not many people can see it. I, being pretty close to people psychology had enough time to detect few people that stood the test of time as OneCoin did not collapse, they remained here bashing new arguments and being more and more self centered. The point of their comments are that it is not actually about OneCoin, it is about them knowing everything about OneCoin, or at least they think they know. Truth is they “do not know that they do not know” and that makes them very dangerous persons for others. They seem to enjoy dragging in other people as they call them “victims” so they can educate them and feed with authority.

    They advertise as their goal is to “save people from not losing money in OneCoin” yet they tend to gather only people that are already involved in OneCoin and they lecture them about how all is scam and all leaders are experienced scammers (and yet none went to jail).
    So their actions actually prove that they do not care about people losing money, that is just store front, they are self centered and are in love with authority they make so they gather scared people that are already involved in OneCoin.

    If they care about people losing money, they would start opposing all those promises from mainstream media that bitcoin will go to 1 million and are lured to buy expensive inflated bitcoins that are then deflated and somebody always loses money. They do not mention other similar systems like OneCoin because they are no where near successful and there is nothing really to talk about them. I will not mention any names here.

    6) And the last but not the least, is the sixth group.
    Those are actually people that feed all previous groups. Those are former OneLife IMAs that somehow got coned by bad OneLife uplines.
    Every MLM has a problem of bad distributors that do not know what they are selling, that care only about money so they will not stop at anything just to take money from people.

    In OneLife, those are promises of high returns from OneCoin in 2018. Many distributors are not that stupid and when they start to realise that, they start complaining and asking questions and then they get cut off by their uplines. Some of them quit, but some of them join anti-OneCoin “victim task force“. Some of them are also bad persons that then feed anti-OneCoiners lies that those believe in and spread as fake news.

    Many thanks to all OneLifers and OneCoiners, Happy Reading !"


    So there you have it, the definitive group of OC haters by category. Well not exactly the definitive group. They left out "podcasts." Kind of makes you wonder why it took them so long to figure this out doesn't it. With such brilliant minds as this, it is hard to fathom why it took them so long to identify all of them.

    I am especially interested in knowing who are the slander professionals. Is there a group of libel professionals and defamation professionals? I want to know so I can contact them about joining. Sounds like a great group of people to want to be associated with doesn't it.

    Just like all the updates supposedly from Corporate, this one is also not signed and no-one seems to be taking credit for it. The implication is that it is from Dr. Ruja. There is a pencil or ink sketch of her with this quote: "Dear Haters, There is so much more for you to be mad at. Just be patient." Of course this is ridiculous as she is still in hiding and a fugitive from justice.

    Now you don't suppose that this has anything to do with episode 4 of "The Missing CryptoQueen" coming out on Thursday do you? Nah, I'm sure it is just a coincidence.
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    Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam

    For more than 4 years, OneCoin has been promising that OC the Coin would be traded on an exchange. And of course this meant that everyone who initially bought coins, and then education packages with coins assigned to those packages, they would be rich beyond their wildest imagination. Then this year it was declared that 2019 is the year of the exchange, and especially they pointed to this month as when it would happen.

    In May Corporate started providing weekly updates as to the progress for OneCoin to be traded on the exchange. For 14 straight weeks the updates contained glowing results and that it wouldn't be long until approval for the exchange would be granted by a Central Bank, which of course was never named. Us "haters" would have contacted them and told them all kind of lies about OC and prevented the CB from approving OneCoin to trade on an exchange. Then for 2 weeks no update. Then when the update did happen, not a word about the Central Bank, the other agencies that had to sign off for OneCoin to trade on an exchange, but the good news was the Wonder Wheel had been extended.

    This didn't sit well with the members. Then last week all the few remaining leaders started a new method of keeping the faithful inline. They were to stop asking about when the exchange was going to happen, and instead they needed to focus on believing in themselves, believing in the company and of course believing in the product. They needed to get fully educated and use their education material they purchased to fully understand the great vision of Ruja and why the exchange is not as important as DealShaker and growing it and the number of merchants. And of course when anyone asked about the exchange or expressed disappointment, the posts were immediately deleted and they were told no negativity was allowed on the FB pages or forums. They needed to get their minds straight and priorities in order mantra.

    In listening to the recent spate of YouTube video's these leaders are putting out, you can hear the desperation in their voices and chastising the members for asking about and focusing on the exchange date. They are on the verge of panicking their world is about to be turned upside down.

    I mean how dare the members ask about and want to be focused on the exchange? It's not like they have been promised this for more than 4 years...….wait. Never mind.
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    The OneLife newsletter came out last Friday and much to the chagrin of the members, not a peep about the Central Bank and a date for the exchange. The lame attempts by the remaining leaders to try to take the focus off the date the exchange will launch to focusing on believing in themselves, the company and the products has fallen flat. From the very brief update comment in the newsletter, they said the Wonder Wheel promotion would be coming to an end, but zero updates about IT, the Central Bank meeting and when the exchange will launch. Needless to say this has not gone over well with the members. To keep the dissent from growing, at least they hope they can keep it from growing, they are now deleting all comments about when the exchange is coming or anyone criticizing non-action by corporate.

    IN another attempt to quell the restless members, now comes this new tact they are trying to keep the members inline, and I quote:


    "When the exchange will be opened?
    For sure, this is the most asked question in OLN members community, but before I answer this question I would like to talk about the categories of people who asking this question:

    First category, is the people that jumped in ONE project based on some emotions and do not understand well the philosophy of cryptocurrency and the ONE ecosystem. And what they want? mostly cash out and be rich over night! and they do not care about any consequences or economic system, or world monitory system.

    Really, I feel sorry for this type of people because they think that they have been scammed until they get their money back! because they do not what they have been in at the first place. Thereafter, they are in torture like a hell everyday. They read or participate in any activities only to get the answer of that question. Even, they are mostly, do not read this text, they only serving the post to find the answer.

    Unfortunately, this is the type for most people because most people are naive and have poor mindset as they are 95% of people population.

    Second category, is the people who understand the philosophy of cryptocurrency and the ONE ecosystem. And they are asking the question as well, but they asking it for a total purpose! they asking it because they know that the exchange is an important and critical part of ONE ecosystem. And they know after the exchange OLN members will have a leap. Of course, they are less than 5% of people population because they are the people who have the rich mindset.

    So, the question about the exchange is important for both categories. And, exchange for any cryptocurrency is necessary. And now I would like to tell the answer of the question:

    Everything has been done by the corporate to launch the exchange; they collaborate with central bank for opening the exchange. And this type of exchange will be the first of its type because it will be an intermediate stage between wild cryptocurrency and the regulators, and the transition stage from fiat age to cryptocurrency age for the mass market. And now the central bank investigating the ONE and we waiting for their decision. Briefly, waiting for ONE approval by central bank.

    When the exchange? after CB approval. When CB will approve ONE? It depends on CB and we are waiting that. Although, they said two weeks, but still we are waiting.

    While we are waiting, it is very important for the first category of people to work to decrease their pain and this could only be done by getting understanding:
    1- the philosophy of cryptocurrency and the ONE ecosystem,
    2- the nature of current world economic change,
    3- how rich people work and think.

    Otherwise, first category people sad and regret will be much bigger after the successful launch and work the exchange."


    Just think, after all that explanation the answer to the question is really very simple: We don't know when the exchange will happen.

    Everything that was said was nothing more than someone trying to sound important and knowledgeable. They even included a video clip from Robert Kiyosaki talking about the rich and poor mindset. For those of you who don't know who Robert Kiyosaki is, he wrote "Rich Dad Poor Dad" and after selling millions of copies finally admitted that he never had a "rich" dad; but if he had he would have said those things to him. In short a scam artist.

    Bottom line is they can't give an update when the exchange will open because they have not been meeting with any Central Bank and there will be no exchange that is not controlled by OneCoin. They can't open an exchange because they still have members who are missing their OneCoins in CoinSafe. We are not talking about a few thousand but multiple millions of missing OneCoins. IT has only been working on this for over 2 years now and it is still not resolved, and they expect OneCoin to be traded on an open exchange? Seriously?

    Time is running out for Corporate. Mark Scott's case is set to start Nov 4, but I get the feeling the defense is going to ask for a delay. Seems Mark doesn't have the money to pay for a proper defense. Guess he didn't want to sell one of his yachts, cars, homes to provide for a proper defense. He is either one of the dumbest lawyers ever or he is just trying to play dumb. Kind of hard to tell at times, but my money is on playing dumb. Then we have Konstantin's next status court date on Nov 7. The BBC series is really causing OC fits.

    Hopefully the U will charge OneCoin/OneLife under the RICO act and shut them down for good. They are still stealing money every day from gullible people worldwide, and they need to be stopped now.
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    Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam

    In the: You can't make this stuff up" category, now comes this from the OneCoin Leaders Global Webinar, King Jayms said that next week he was going to launch a free Konstantin agenda, whatever that means. I am sure it will be something else.

    He might want to re-think that effort since the Government announced that in the Mark Scott case, in the month of September, the Government produced close to 49,000 documents, consisting of approximately 129,000 pages of materials and 357 gigabytes. Also the Government produced an additional terabyte of raw data from electronic devices and servers associated with OneCoin. You can bet that all this data also applies to Konstantin's case as well. Not only that, but the Government is receiving additional information daily.

    Mark's trial is scheduled to start Nov 4, but this news and the fact that "poor" Mark cannot hire the best attorneys to defend him properly, the date could be pushed back.

    I can't wait to read what brilliant idea King Jayms has come up with that will "free Konstantin." It will be "busy work" to keep the members mind off no news on the exchange launch, or so he hopes. It's all they've got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    In the: You can't make this stuff up" category, now comes this from the OneCoin Leaders Global Webinar, King Jayms said that next week he was going to launch a free Konstantin agenda, whatever that means. I am sure it will be something else.

    He might want to re-think that effort since the Government announced that in the Mark Scott case, in the month of September, the Government produced close to 49,000 documents, consisting of approximately 129,000 pages of materials and 357 gigabytes. Also the Government produced an additional terabyte of raw data from electronic devices and servers associated with OneCoin. You can bet that all this data also applies to Konstantin's case as well. Not only that, but the Government is receiving additional information daily.

    Mark's trial is scheduled to start Nov 4, but this news and the fact that "poor" Mark cannot hire the best attorneys to defend him properly, the date could be pushed back.

    I can't wait to read what brilliant idea King Jayms has come up with that will "free Konstantin." It will be "busy work" to keep the members mind off no news on the exchange launch, or so he hopes. It's all they've got.
    That whole crew obviously subscribes to the philosophy of, " If ya can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em wit bull squeezin's!!!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Episode 5 is out of "The Missing Crypto Queen" and it the best so far. If you really want to know the mindset of how a Major MLM Promoter works, then you need to listen to this podcast. Igor Alberts gives the perfect insight into this mindset, and this mindset is the mindset of every Major MLM Promoter as they move from MLM to MLM.

    Have a listen here and learn what I am talking about: The Missing Cryptoqueen - Episode 5: What dreams may come - BBC Sounds
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    Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam

    Now Corporate has another IMA of OC arrested in Thailand. A top Vietnamese OneCoin promoter was arrested attempting to leave Thailand. Thailand’s Immigration Bureau intercepted Mr. Ngoc as he attempted to leave the country. Ngoc was on an international criminal blacklist and, after his passport triggered an alarm, was arrested at Suvarnabhumi International Airport on October 2nd.

    Thai authorities charged Ngoc with promoting OneCoin to Vietnamese and Thai victims of the Ponzi scheme. Part of Ngoc’s deception was falsely telling investors they could use OneCoin in place of Thai baht. Following his arrest Ngoc confessed to working with seven other fraudsters, including Thai and Vietnamese, in deceiving people to invest in OneCoin. The names of Ngoc’s accomplices have not been released.

    Thailand has already arrested one individual promising that more were to come, and they are living up to their word. It is now a matter of time before the 7 unnamed will be charged. When it is all said and done in Thailand, I am expecting this number to be far greater than the 7 referenced in Ngoc's arrest.
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