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    Federal Judge issued Temporary Injunction and Asset Freezes; No Defendants show up to the Hearing this morning (no great surprise there).

    Copies of the Hearing Minute entry and the Order are here https://sites.google.com/a/asdupdate...itable-sunrise
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    I cannot tell you how shocked, shocked I say, that such a Godly man and true Christian Roman Novak did not appear to prove that his bridge loans, and securities were all legal so he could still pay the Easter Gift as promised. I am sure the weather stopped him from being able to be there. It's not like he didn't have an attorney to represent him at this hearing with his brother being this great International Lawyer.

    I am sure the time just got away from him because of his being in China getting the new servers all set up. We all know how tedious, intricate and time-consuming switching servers can be. He probably thought they meant the 15th in China, not the US. Or maybe he got rubbed the wrong way when he was getting his massages? Oh wait, Hong Kong does not have flights to Atlanta. I'm sure that was the problem. Hmm, wonder if his International Lawyer brother also had to be in China to make sure the swtiching of servers was done legally? Or maybe he was taking the slow boat from China to get here. I'm sure that was it.
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    My how times have changed. Watching all of Nanci Jo Frazer's YouTube videos singing the praises of Roman Novak and Profitable Sunrise, and what a blessing it was to the Christian community seems a disconnect to her story now. WARNING: Do not drink while reading the latest update from GIR Alliance. You have been warned:

    Dear GIR Alliance family,

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE

    Thank you for your patience in waiting for information. We empathize with each of you, as it has been extremely difficult for all of us to wait for ANY word from Roman, but receive no communication. We trust the following key bits of information will help fill in the gaps.

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRAYERS

    We are glad to report that Nanci Jo Frazer's son is doing very well and was able to attend a college event. Taylor was chosen out of 80 students to be one of 8 to present an inventive project before investors at BGSU. Unfortunately due to a skiing accident, Taylor spent 14 days in the hospital for surgery to remove a blood clot on his brain, so he could not present his project. The good news is that the investors approached him and invited him to return next year and are all readily offering support. The Frazer family is very grateful for the outpouring of kindness, support, prayers and the many, many positive phone calls.

    DEDICATED TO FINDING THE TRUTH

    Although Nanci has been by her son's side through his and three hospitalizations and his recovery, she has also been fully dedicated to seeking out the truth and actively engaged in providing key information to the authorities which can bring the truth to the surface concerning the mysterious founder, Roman Novak, and his company. Although she has desperately wanted to communicate more with you, her legal counsel instructed her to not make any public statements while helping with the investigation. We have heard that her attorney is the former Chairman of the SEC.

    THE SEC IN ATLANTA MEETS WITH PROFITABLE SUNRISE TODAY

    We want to get you a quick update that there is a hearing/court ordered event today to be held in Atlanta, Georgia. Roman Novak and his associates working with him in Europe have been asked to appear before the powers at be. Their assets (our assets) have been frozen in the UK and the Czech Republic banks. This is an SEC event and you can read about it online if you wish.

    A VOICE FOR NANCI

    Since Nanci cannot speak for herself, we wanted to take this opportunity to share with you some information that you may not know.

    VERY FEW WERE INVITED

    Many are wondering if the leaders actually benefited from such a large group. We do now know that many people had up to 5-10 accounts, and that many people never activated their accounts. So although Roman allowed the number to look large, active participants are much smaller. That may explain why so few people bother to go to the Cyber Stalkers' websites who are obsessed with anything to do with Profitable Sunrise. Not a whole lot of traffic happening over there at this point. It's like watching the same movie over and over again until you just want to shut it off.

    We also have concluded that the numbers posted in the NJF Global Group back office were NOT representative of over $36 million in new deposits. Instead, it appears that the system may have allowed re-deposits to be added to the total (which can include daily interest & referral bonuses). This means that $1000 would appear to appear to the public eye to become a much higher balance by the end of a 170 business day term. This displayed total was therefore deceiving.

    NJF GLOBAL GROUP

    Out of the 32 Leaders in Profitable Sunrise, NJF Global Group was group 20. We do know that our group leader had no plans of falling into a 24/7 customer service job with Profitable Sunrise. When she started in July of 2012, she personally gifted support to a few friends & family members, and she only put in $100 to help her Charity.

    SERVING WITHOUT FINANCIAL REWARD

    We are figuring that most of the people in Profitable Sunrise received her support without Nanci having any financial gain. Only one of the leaders you heard doing the conference calls and webinars was in her pay plan. She worked up to 18 hours per day supporting those needing help even though she has never met Roman in person. She was excited to see the charity grow even though she was never compensated from the charity. The point is, her story is not all that interesting and those who are making up false information are just hurting a Christian sister and her family. This needs to stop now. Please join us to protect one of our own who to this day picks up the phone to help. She has never stopped working for all of us. She has always been there for us.

    OUR CHARITY WAS REQUIRED

    We also have learned that Ms. Frazer became a Group Leader because during the time of her due diligence in evaluating Profitable Sunrise, her upline was not available to answer questions due to an illness in the family. The man who referred her finally introduced her to Roman Novak by phone, at which time Roman invited her to be a group leader. She actually believed Roman's statements that he cared about helping her Charity. The Charity she recommended was in no way affiliated with Profitable Sunrise other than being advertised as an option on the website. Ms. Frazer believed that Profitable Sunrise was actually a real collateral lending company, as she never was shown that it was not. Many professional business people joined in validating their understanding of this as well.

    Many donated to the Charity eventually by clicking the Donate button in the Profitable Sunrise back office, the board of directors for your Charity chose NOT to pull any funds into the USA. Therefore... the Charity has never received any funding from Profitable Sunrise donations to this day.

    STOP THE CYBER STALKERS & BULLIES

    We ask that you help us to clean up the internet from those using our leader's photos and endangering their families by reporting You Tube Videos, websites and blogs to our office so that the appropriate legal action can be taken. Cyber Bullying and Cyber Stalking is a Federal Offense and is not tolerated by the credible hosting sites and search engines.

    WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY / WHAT'S AHEAD

    Right now quarterly tax reports are being prepared. We hope to bring some very exciting news of some new developments soon! FocusUp Ministries will NOT be renewing any relationship with Profitable Sunrise or any affiliate companies but will continue to assist supporters of the Ministry.

    BEAUTIFUL BILLEE PROJECT UPDATE:

    THANK YOU for your generous support of your Charity, for the Glenn and Kerri Wynen family, and for their beautiful Billee and three other daughters. I am happy to report that you we were able to send $6749.80 to help them! THEY ARE S-O-O-O-O-O GRATEFUL, and we are too. Glenn is now back home, still recovering. Please continue to pray for each member of the family as they face each day, for God's grace, peace and provision. May God bless you bountifully in return.

    PLEASE PRAY FOR THE RIGHT RESULT

    We want to let everyone know that we have been praying for and thinking about all of you as each day has passed without word from Profitable Sunrise. It is time for the truth to come forward for all of us.

    We look forward to hearing the real story as to exactly what we all have been experiencing here. Members of our group have hired those who can help investigate all this to help us have the real facts and a positive outcome. Please be supportive of each other as we move forward together.

    We are all wanting to recover and move on. We look forward to see soon how we can retract funds back from Europe.

    We will be in touch with you again as we are able to communicate verified truth.

    The GIR Alliance Admin Team
    (419) 636-9207 or (419) 636-1859 Chairman's line
    www.girhelpdesk@gmail.com
    F.U.M.I. FocusUp Ministries, Inc. | Bryan, OH 43506

    Now if any of you want to believe any of that is true, I have a bridge loan to sell you.

    I can assure you Nanci Jo that many of us are "PRAYING" for the right outcome, and I can guarantee you that it is not the outcome you are praying for...not even close.
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    We have heard that her attorney is the former Chairman of the SEC.
    What, no former Justice of the Supreme Court?

    Someone owes me a keyboard for that one....

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    And Nanci Jo, we're still waiting on the 501(c)3 Charity EIN.

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    Would this attorney she hired be her defense attorney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    homo-sapiens can't dismantle Profitable Sunrise
    But governments and law enforcements are made OF homo-sapiens... And they seem to be doing just fine!
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    Roman Novak opened a wig and hair extension shop https://profitablesunrise.com/ redirects you to hairextensionbuy.com

    extend your hair 2% a day, or more in long hair haul plan :)

    (explanation for those who did not get the joke: blacklotus reused the IP for another client)
    Last edited by NikSam; 04-15-2013 at 02:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    What, no former Justice of the Supreme Court?

    Someone owes me a keyboard for that one....
    I was expecting Daniel Webster!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    FocusUp Ministries will NOT be renewing any relationship with Profitable Sunrise or any affiliate companies
    Well, I can't tell you how relieved I am that FU Nancy Jo put her foot down and refuses to renew her relationship with PS. Next thing you know she will be telling Circuit City and Linens N Things where they can put their rewards cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    I was expecting Daniel Webster!
    The only former chairman of the SEC I know of who is privately practicing law is Harvey Pitt, who I imagine would get a retainer of about a million for a case. Of course, he's not a criminal lawyer so not sure what good that would do Nanci Jo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzard7 View Post
    Federal Judge issued Temporary Injunction and Asset Freezes; No Defendants show up to the Hearing this morning (no great surprise there).

    Copies of the Hearing Minute entry and the Order are here https://sites.google.com/a/asdupdate...itable-sunrise

    I would have been less surprised to see Scooby Doo arrive to answer charges.

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    *****************Up Front Disclaimer*******************

    Be careful of your computer screen and Keyboard. I had to replace my keyboard after all the spilled coffee.

    I found this on MMG and since I don't do well with screen shots, I copied and pasted the post. I have read about kenrusso/drdave and thought him to be many things but this is a new one on me. (This is in the Profitable Sunrise Thread at MMG)

    " krusso

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    QUOTE (income4me @ Apr 15 2013, 02:15 PM) *
    Totally agree with both of you. There are a few who sing the praises of these "praise seekers," but if you will notice, most want these people to go away and never come back. They treat us as children in need of their guidance to make themselves feel important. How truly sad! Whatever thread they show up in goes downhill fast descending into negativity. What a pitiful existence to thrive off the failure of others. Wouldn't it be much more satisfying to be positive and find ways to truly help people to succeed? What a thought!! soapbox.gif

    Well stated and very true!

    Oh, Ken, you were posting the same time as I was LOL....and you are one person who is always seeking ways to help people. I know we have all been disappointed but I admire you tremendously. You have succeeded where many have failed in this online arena and I know it was with a lot of effort and hard work that you are where you are today.


    Thanks for the kind words. Much appreciated!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by baylee View Post
    *****************Up Front Disclaimer*******************

    Be careful of your computer screen and Keyboard. I had to replace my keyboard after all the spilled coffee.

    I found this on MMG and since I don't do well with screen shots, I copied and pasted the post. I have read about kenrusso/drdave and thought him to be many things but this is a new one on me. (This is in the Profitable Sunrise Thread at MMG)

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    QUOTE (income4me @ Apr 15 2013, 02:15 PM) *
    Totally agree with both of you. There are a few who sing the praises of these "praise seekers," but if you will notice, most want these people to go away and never come back. They treat us as children in need of their guidance to make themselves feel important. How truly sad! Whatever thread they show up in goes downhill fast descending into negativity. What a pitiful existence to thrive off the failure of others. Wouldn't it be much more satisfying to be positive and find ways to truly help people to succeed? What a thought!! soapbox.gif

    Well stated and very true!

    Oh, Ken, you were posting the same time as I was LOL....and you are one person who is always seeking ways to help people. I know we have all been disappointed but I admire you tremendously. You have succeeded where many have failed in this online arena and I know it was with a lot of effort and hard work that you are where you are today.


    Thanks for the kind words. Much appreciated!"
    LOL, another glorious psychobabble failure...!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    I responded to a dig from Stros, and here's what started all the love-in for Ken:

    QUOTE (Lynndel @ Apr 15 2013, 01:06 PM)

    As for him opening up under a new name, of course he will. He will just wait about a year before he does so, and of course not only use a new name for the program, but also as admin. This is what all Ponzi pro's do. Just like all the major promoters go from Ponzi to Ponzi to Ponzi to Ponzi. The only difference is the Ponzi promoters feign ignorance and claim they were duped like everyone else when they crash and burn. Bad for business if they don't act the part of a victim.

    Ken's response:


    I will be watching for his new program and I hope to be among the first to join and promote it. If it lasts even half as long as PS I will be very pleased with my decision. With regard to your "feign ignorance" statement, this is not an issue. Every time I send a newsletter I include this disclaimer.....

    "I will always enter an HYIP with the knowledge that most HYIP programs are ponzi-based (regardless of what is stated at the website) and that any given program can disappear at any time resulting in the loss of all of my principal".

    Crystal clear isn't it?

    My question to you is this.....

    Don't you have anything better to do with your time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Russo
    My question to you is this.....

    Don't you have anything better to do with your time?
    What would be better use of ones' time than annoying a professional HYIP ponzi pimp ??
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Not sure how long the MMG mods will allow this to fly:
    Profitablesunrise - Profitablesunrise.com In case it doesn't...
    Ever so glad to see that the thieves, pimps and shills turn out to support each other! Gives the naysayers something to do...!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Now what was truly funny is that in the Profitable Sunrise thread at MMG, I called Roman a crook, liar and a faux-Christian. Not once but on several occasions. Not once did Ken Russo take exception, but when I posted that Anelie was a liar and a crook in the HRS thread, he cried to the mods claiming I was making a personal attack. But then he posted this gem and I quote:

    "I do not know nor do I care who this Lyndell person is.

    He/she certainly has the right to express his/her opinion and it is commendable to warn others about the perils of the high-risk HYIP industry. However, when the conversation evolves into the type of personal attack displayed above, the line has been crossed."

    Now Ken, it is not nice to tell such Porkies. Not know who I am?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
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    Now Ken, it is not nice to tell such Porkies. Not know who I am?
    LOL, ken, THE PIMP, russo/drdave tell prokies!!! Surely you jest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baylee View Post
    LOL, ken, THE PIMP, russo/drdave tell prokies!!! Surely you jest!
    RIGHT!!! Telling a ponzi pimp not to lie is cruel and unusual punishment. The reason they avoid courtrooms like the plague is that "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" just ain't in their DNA!!!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    https://www.facebook.com/profitables...wlegit?fref=ts

    Sad over there today, ponzi jo and minions had an for the slow and semi-crazy

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    I see that yippee jumped into the PS thread at MMG and cleaned out the russo rah-rah posts...and my shot at them.
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    I see frabi, ponzi apologist extraordinaire has shown his greedy self: Profitablesunrise - Profitablesunrise.com
    So you apparently see nothing wrong with obvious affinity fraud? The only "Christian" aspect of this fraud was "Roman's" shameless preying on Christian beliefs to suck in more money! "...a group of people made it impossible to continue," ? Yep, them nasty law abiding regulatory types made it impossible for another fraudulent ponzi to sucker in more victims!!!
    (Doing this primarily in case yippee decides it is an attack on his worthless rump)
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Lynn, still having that gender identification crisis, I see!

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Now what was truly funny is that in the Profitable Sunrise thread at MMG, I called Roman a crook, liar and a faux-Christian. Not once but on several occasions. Not once did Ken Russo take exception, but when I posted that Anelie was a liar and a crook in the HRS thread, he cried to the mods claiming I was making a personal attack. But then he posted this gem and I quote:

    "I do not know nor do I care who this Lyndell person is.

    He/she certainly has the right to express his/her opinion and it is commendable to warn others about the perils of the high-risk HYIP industry. However, when the conversation evolves into the type of personal attack displayed above, the line has been crossed."

    Now Ken, it is not nice to tell such Porkies. Not know who I am?
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    We all are aware of the movie "Legally Blonde." Well here is Frabi from MMG, the "Legally Stupid," and I quote:

    "I was waiting for the reply of the group on my last post about Profitablesunrise - and like a clockwork the reply arrived...

    It's the hypocrisy of the opponents to behave like missionaries in a foreign area...in each argument they make missing an important detail in a way that the outsider should think: "wow...how upright and honest people they are to protect us the folks against the "cheaters" of Profitablesunrise !

    Things are not this simple !

    When you go to church then surely not to throw eggs onto the pastor When you go to the Indians you must not sell them alcoolics
    When you go to a Hyip forum you don't go there to offend the investors with partial information like politicians do when they search a reason

    The investor/gambler is allowed to win and to lose and he knows both is possible, in one matter they are all the same, casino lottery and Hyip: the owner takes always the most profit. If the Hyip investing would depend only on luck then I would not be able to make nice profits around the year because i am a totally unlucky person in gambling"

    Well Frabi, they really are that simple. It is called stealing. What an absolute Ponzi shill idiot. When your IQ hits 30, Sell.
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