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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    After receiving PPBlog's latest report, I wanted to come over and congratulate all those who have participated in exposing this program and say thanks for a job well done!!
    Don't get ripped off!! Stay informed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post

    I waited for the next page to quote this just to give it more exposure. A GREAT interview with our very own EagleOne.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    I spread it around Facebook also!!
    Don't get ripped off!! Stay informed!

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    Question: How do the "admins" of HYIP's know who to pay and how much? Are these web site "scripts" set up with algorithms based on who gets in for how much and how long or is it merely arbitrary and done manually? Being a newbie, I don't have a clue. You guys got me so interested in this thread in what is going to happen in the near future that I got in PS for $10 just to watch what happens from the inside and see what kind of communication I receive. Since I'm at the bottom of the food chain, I don't suspect I'll get much of anything in the way of communications etc. $10 is just my admission to the "show." LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCA777 View Post
    How do the "admins" of HYIP's know who to pay and how much?
    From the HYIP scripts.

    Quote Originally Posted by JCA777 View Post
    Are these web site "scripts" set up with algorithms based on who gets in for how much and how long
    Yes.

    If you've never seen them before, you can see a demo from some companies that sell HYIP scripts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendaril View Post
    Why do I feel like a complete idiot who bit the fish bait?
    No idea. This isn't your first rodeo for you to feel that way. Maybe because you feel guilty about being in ponzies, period.

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    When PS does finally crash or get busted it would be great to see people finally start filing lawsuits against their upline and or promoters. These would be easy wins especially if they did videos or posted in forums. If you are in PS be sure to find out who your group leaders are. There might be some good money at stake for you, especially if you lose money.

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    Good idea. Everyone spread it around to everyone they know...especially those in PS.

    Hey, as long as we know that law enforcement is monitoring this forum, let me make a contribution.

    This was just posted less than a month ago by someone claiming to be Roman. It doesn't sound like his accent..but some good researcher will be able to trace this. The more PS promoters who get "interviewed" by the law, the faster they will find Roman. Someone will cut a deal to save themselves. They always do.

    Someone will be in trouble....is this Roman?

    Profitable Sunrise Presentation, by owner Roman Novak... How The Money Is Made? - YouTube!

    And here's an actual peek into the PS back office.

    Profitable Sunrise | My Progress Getting rich on the internet, is it really possible?yes - YouTube

    Archive this "evidence" before it's gone.

    Anyone want the NJF Nanci Jo Slide Show???? It is a keeper for the Ponzi "Hall of Shame."

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    Recent Posts By Others

    Cynthia X




    Message from Roman this morning re: N. Carolina.....

    I assure you that we are in control of the situation.
    We will issue an official update soon.

    Have a Blessed Day,
    Roman Novak
    Profitable Sunrise Founder

    I edited Cynthia's name, I feel bad for her. She helped run the Uber secret facebook group for Zeek Rewards loyal affiliates who donated money to Robert Craddock's lawsuit to nowhere. And now she's taking solace in her PS upline sharing Roman's kind assurances that all is well. I honestly do believe that she is sincere in her belief that the closing of Zeek Rewards was a travesty of justice, I wonder if there is any force on earth strong enough to shake her faith in Roman Novak.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    Looks like they have someone trying to hold down the fort today..




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    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper View Post
    I wonder if there is any force on earth strong enough to shake her faith in Roman Novak.
    She needs a real lesson from the bible:

    "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil Ol' Radical Me View Post
    So do we all. This a very pessimistic view, although it seems to be based on bitter past experience.

    There is one positive side. This case is receiving a lot of publicity internationally. By choosing Britain for the registration of Inter Reef Ltd, Profitable Sunrise have also gotten themselves in a country with equally tough laws on the sale of unregistered securities and other financial services. The New Zealand article which goes as far to trace a link with the Director of Inter Reef Ltd and illegal arms deals should serve as a wake up call to anyone who still thinks that the HYIP subculture (or should I call it an "Industry") is just a fun game for those cynics "in the know" to play around with. The fact that so many founders of the schemes do end up unpunished and run with the money is also a clear signal that they are not dumb either. This following on from Zeek Rewards is has a far higher public profile than the previous middle size HYIPs, ergo the public are beginning to receive an education that was not previously available to them. In that sense Bernard Maddoff has done us all a favor. Before he was turned in, most of the investing public did not know what a ponzi even was and that includes some of the newer participants in the money games. Now it forms part of the vocabulary of anyone interested in investments and money games.

    The obvious solution to the HYIP problem would be if the enablers have their wings clipped. A few prosecutions of the habitual big promoters of HYIPs and a major clamp down on the payment processors who deal with the US would be a start

    Hopefully at least the next big thing will attract a few less followers than the last one as the public becomes more aware of what they are being pimped.
    The sad thing is, the amount of planning to successfully start a scheme and get away with it is much less profitable and stable then a legit business.

    Its just the illusion of fast bucks that is never realistically materialized. If you could live in a world where all you cared about was the accumulation of overnight fortune that would be one tough life.

    I have a lot of research to do with spotting HYIPs. In the mean time, I want to see what happens with PS. As of now, I can log on to my account and still get interest payments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil Ol' Radical Me View Post
    a major clamp down on the payment processors who deal with the US would be a start
    The ones that could be touched are already shut down, e.g., e-gold and EMO. HYIPs use for the most part Liberty Reserve, SolidTrustPay and Perfect Money. Liberty Reserve is in Costa Rica, SolidTrustPay is in Canada and Perfect Money is in Panama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finix View Post
    From the HYIP scripts.


    Yes.

    If you've never seen them before, you can see a demo from some companies that sell HYIP scripts.
    I just did a search for HYIP scripts and could not believe what I found. A person can start their own HYIP for $145! I wondered where these sites came from! All people have to do is see these to know what they are. Amazing!

    Just search: HYIP scripts and you'll be amazed!

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    cs says:
    February 26, 2013 at 3:38 pm
    ...HAS DEBORAH RECEIVED HER FIRST CYCLE $ YET?/
    admin (aka 'Amanda' aka 'Quicksilver' on MIN site) says:
    March 1, 2013 at 4:16 am
    @cs. I believe she said it matures around the 5th of Marchwell watch it closely
    John says:
    February 26, 2013 at 2:27 pm
    ...Have you heard of Banners Broker, and if so what do you think about them. I have put some money in them, and I have also put money in Sunrise..
    Take note...Banners Broker AND Profitable Sunrise....

    Amanda says:
    February 27, 2013 at 3:11 am
    @John. I have heard of them and have friends that have joined, as well. I suppose I should say Im undecided...
    Her 'friend' is Deborah (aka Hearthworth9). They have been 'friends in SCAMS for quite some time...and heeere she comes...look below...

    Deborah says:
    March 1, 2013 at 1:45 am
    Hi gang,
    Next week my contract ends and then I start again. I am very excited to make a large withdrawal.
    I am in Banners Brokers, it takes some work to build and learn as they keep fine tuning things. There are rooms in skype dedicated to Banners Brokers so contact me if you are needing additional support (heartworth9 is my contact name in skype)
    .
    If this doesn't tell you that SCAMMERS are everywhere...in everything...well then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancetta View Post
    Take note...Banners Broker AND Profitable Sunrise....


    Her 'friend' is Deborah (aka Hearthworth9). They have been 'friends in SCAMS for quite some time...and heeere she comes...look below...



    If this doesn't tell you that SCAMMERS are everywhere...in everything...well then...
    I am just shocked that Amanda/QS is not in Profitable Sunrise. I thought she would have been all over it given her past track record of these type of Ponzi's. Guess she didn't believe it was blessed by God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    I am just shocked that Amanda/QS is not in Profitable Sunrise. I thought she would have been all over it given her past track record of these type of Ponzi's. Guess she didn't believe it was blessed by God.
    Oh, 'Amanda' is in Profitable Sunrise...She is 'neck-deep' in it:

    Amanda says:
    June 16, 2012 at 12:11 am
    I decided to put a little in this program...


    Amanda says:
    June 19, 2012 at 3:23 am
    I am so impressed with the Admin for this fine program...


    Amanda says:
    June 20, 2012 at 10:06 pm
    More payouts from Profitable Sunrise:
    06/19/2012 00:45 99996824 U3508025 (Profitable S)

    Amanda says:
    June 24, 2012 at 5:29 am
    More payouts from ProfitableSunrise:
    06/23/2012 06:45 100640409 U3508025 (Profitable S)
    06/21/2012 00:44 100314044 U3508025 (Profitable S)
    ...............................
    Amanda says:
    February 20, 2013 at 1:04 am
    For informational purposes:
    I have a small personal deposit
    It's Banners Brokers that she is 'claiming' not to be in...BUT she has given up her 'GOOD FRIEND' Deborah aka heartworth9 who is neck-deep in BB and PS...

    Don't'cha just luv scammers? They will save their a$$ LONG before they will save yours...

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    It seems there was a big NJF Pow-Wow today and one of the group has posted this on FB. Read carefully.

    CEASE AND DECEASE! IS NANCI JO ALREADY IN WITNESS PROTECTION?

    "GREED IS A DISEASE" (You can't make this stuff up)

    A SUMMARY OF THIS MORNINGS WEBINAR FROM NANCI JO FRAZER AND TEAM

    "Hush little investors, Uncle Roman says everything will be OK"

    Greetings:
    Ralph Yerkes, a Wall Street Financier and member of Profitable Sun Rise discussed the fact that PSR IS NOT a Ponzi Scheme. A Ponzi Scheme needs more and more new money coming in so that payments can be made for those who's contracts are maturing. Remember: Roman Novak stated from the very beginning that the Long Haul would only last till March 1, 2013 and he stuck with his word. Ponzi Schemes use dead lines to create a frenzie and thus generate even more money. Our Long Haul Program is OVER!!! Those people who are in it will get rewarded accordingly when their contract matures. On April 1st Roman Novak stated he will honor all the Easter Gifts that are due. (Ponzi Schemes DO NOT do this)
    We as a group ARE NOT to use the words: Investment, return on investment. Rather: We as affiliates provide Loans to Roman and he is the man that invests. Security laws prevent us from using the words: Investments and return on investments. Please DO NOT send emails that share those words; rather, talk to your person you are referring to the program one on one. PLEASE...........DO NOT PUT ANYTHING ON YOU TUBE PROMOTING PSR. THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE NO, NO!!!
    Do not get alarmed with my next statement: The State of North Carolina gave Profitable Sun Rise a Desist and Decease Order NOT TO OFFER ANY MORE PSR OPPORTUNITIES TO PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA. Roman Novak put a statement on our Webinar that said: We assure you that Profitable Sun Rise is OK and in Control of the situation. We will issue an official up date soon. God bless you all. Roman Novak.
    The main complaint was that PSR is still found on the website.
    There will be NO Chairman's Call next Tuesday night. Nanci Jo Frazer is now on a long needed vacation with her family.
    With the pay out of the Easter Gift PSR will be holding back on calls, and other activities BECAUSE they are revamping their websites so they too are compliant, 100%.
    The Private Plan will continue to be offered so select your affiliates carefully. Invite in ONLY people with sound character and who truly have a heart to want to make a difference in other peoples lives. GREED is a disease; don't get that disease!!!
    GOOD NEWS!! Nanci Jo Frazer's Group is being RENEWED by Roman Novak.
    If you have an issue with your PSR account or accounts please send your problem to: support@profitablesunrise.com
    If you have an unresolved problem send your email to: njfdirect@gmail.com
    Bank wire issues should be sent to: Bank@ProfitableSunRise.com

    DO NOT send emails to Nanci Jo Frazer (SHE IS ON VACATION) and DO NOT send emails to:
    Rev. Jon Simmons. HE IS WORKING FULL TIME ON THE WEBSITES REVISIONS AND CAN NOT BE INTERRUPTED.
    (We need to honor these two people so they can get their jobs done so we can enjoy our program for years and years to come)

    Comments were made that a SMALL number of people were on this call this morning and Rev. Jon Simmons asked that all of us on the call would help remind our team what was talked about. Have a GREAT week end folks.

    And the Beat Goes On..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merchant of Truth View Post
    It seems there was a big NJF Pow-Wow today and one of the group has posted this on FB. Read carefully.

    CEASE AND DECEASE! IS NANCI JO ALREADY IN WITNESS PROTECTION?

    "GREED IS A DISEASE" (You can't make this stuff up)

    A SUMMARY OF THIS MORNINGS WEBINAR FROM NANCI JO FRAZER AND TEAM

    Greetings:
    Ralph Yerkes, a Wall Street Financier and member of Profitable Sun Rise discussed the fact that PSR IS NOT a Ponzi Scheme. A Ponzi Scheme needs more and more new money coming in so that payments can be made for those who's contracts are maturing. Remember: Roman Novak stated from the very beginning that the Long Haul would only last till March 1, 2013 and he stuck with his word. Ponzi Schemes use dead lines to create a frenzie and thus generate even more money. Our Long Haul Program is OVER!!! Those people who are in it will get rewarded accordingly when their contract matures. On April 1st Roman Novak stated he will honor all the Easter Gifts that are due. (Ponzi Schemes DO NOT do this)
    We as a group ARE NOT to use the words: Investment, return on investment. Rather: We as affiliates provide Loans to Roman and he is the man that invests. Security laws prevent us from using the words: Investments and return on investments. Please DO NOT send emails that share those words; rather, talk to your person you are referring to the program one on one. PLEASE...........DO NOT PUT ANYTHING ON YOU TUBE PROMOTING PSR. THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE NO, NO!!!
    Do not get alarmed with my next statement: The State of North Carolina gave Profitable Sun Rise a Desist and Decease Order NOT TO OFFER ANY MORE PSR OPPORTUNITIES TO PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA. Roman Novak put a statement on our Webinar that said: We assure you that Profitable Sun Rise is OK and in Control of the situation. We will issue an official up date soon. God bless you all. Roman Novak.
    The main complaint was that PSR is still found on the website.
    There will be NO Chairman's Call next Tuesday night. Nanci Jo Frazer is now on a long needed vacation with her family.
    With the pay out of the Easter Gift PSR will be holding back on calls, and other activities BECAUSE they are revamping their websites so they too are compliant, 100%.
    The Private Plan will continue to be offered so select your affiliates carefully. Invite in ONLY people with sound character and who truly have a heart to want to make a difference in other peoples lives. GREED is a disease; don't get that disease!!!
    GOOD NEWS!! Nanci Jo Frazer's Group is being RENEWED by Roman Novak.
    If you have an issue with your PSR account or accounts please send your problem to: support@profitablesunrise.com
    If you have an unresolved problem send your email to: njfdirect@gmail.com
    Bank wire issues should be sent to: Bank@ProfitableSunRise.com

    DO NOT send emails to Nanci Jo Frazer (SHE IS ON VACATION) and DO NOT send emails to:
    Rev. Jon Simmons. HE IS WORKING FULL TIME ON THE WEBSITES REVISIONS AND CAN NOT BE INTERRUPTED.
    (We need to honor these two people so they can get their jobs done so we can enjoy our program for years and years to come)

    Comments were made that a SMALL number of people were on this call this morning and Rev. Jon Simmons asked that all of us on the call would help remind our team what was talked about. Have a GREAT week end folks.

    And the Beat Goes On..........
    What a coincidence she is gone at this very time....................

    Nancy takes all their money as leader. Cant be bothered on vacation to even comment? Where is she the moon?
    How rude, If I was on here calls and believing her mixing PS and religion, I would be furious. No comment needed?

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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    Anyone who thinks Nanci Jo Frazer VOLUNTARILY removed any mention of Profitable Sunrise from her website as well as posting the disclaimer distancing both her and the Focus Up Ministries Inc 501c from Profitable Sunrise really needs to visit their doctor for a full reality check.

    The times they are a changin'

    With the advent of sites such as REALSCAM.com and non profits like Eagle Research Associates and their volunteer members, staying "under the radar" is not as easy as as it once may have been.

    HYIP ponzi players, organizers or Nanci Jo Frazer type enablers can no longer bank on their particular fraud remaining unnoticed for long enough for them to rake in the money unchallenged.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merchant of Truth View Post
    It seems there was a big NJF Pow-Wow today and one of the group has posted this on FB. Read carefully.

    CEASE AND DECEASE! IS NANCI JO ALREADY IN WITNESS PROTECTION?

    "GREED IS A DISEASE" (You can't make this stuff up)

    A SUMMARY OF THIS MORNINGS WEBINAR FROM NANCI JO FRAZER AND TEAM

    "Hush little investors, Uncle Roman says everything will be OK"

    Greetings:
    Ralph Yerkes, a Wall Street Financier and member of Profitable Sun Rise discussed the fact that PSR IS NOT a Ponzi Scheme. A Ponzi Scheme needs more and more new money coming in so that payments can be made for those who's contracts are maturing. Remember: Roman Novak stated from the very beginning that the Long Haul would only last till March 1, 2013 and he stuck with his word. Ponzi Schemes use dead lines to create a frenzie and thus generate even more money. Our Long Haul Program is OVER!!! Those people who are in it will get rewarded accordingly when their contract matures. On April 1st Roman Novak stated he will honor all the Easter Gifts that are due. (Ponzi Schemes DO NOT do this)
    We as a group ARE NOT to use the words: Investment, return on investment. Rather: We as affiliates provide Loans to Roman and he is the man that invests. Security laws prevent us from using the words: Investments and return on investments. Please DO NOT send emails that share those words; rather, talk to your person you are referring to the program one on one. PLEASE...........DO NOT PUT ANYTHING ON YOU TUBE PROMOTING PSR. THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE NO, NO!!!
    Do not get alarmed with my next statement: The State of North Carolina gave Profitable Sun Rise a Desist and Decease Order NOT TO OFFER ANY MORE PSR OPPORTUNITIES TO PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA. Roman Novak put a statement on our Webinar that said: We assure you that Profitable Sun Rise is OK and in Control of the situation. We will issue an official up date soon. God bless you all. Roman Novak.
    The main complaint was that PSR is still found on the website.
    There will be NO Chairman's Call next Tuesday night. Nanci Jo Frazer is now on a long needed vacation with her family.
    With the pay out of the Easter Gift PSR will be holding back on calls, and other activities BECAUSE they are revamping their websites so they too are compliant, 100%.
    The Private Plan will continue to be offered so select your affiliates carefully. Invite in ONLY people with sound character and who truly have a heart to want to make a difference in other peoples lives. GREED is a disease; don't get that disease!!!
    GOOD NEWS!! Nanci Jo Frazer's Group is being RENEWED by Roman Novak.
    If you have an issue with your PSR account or accounts please send your problem to: support@profitablesunrise.com
    If you have an unresolved problem send your email to: njfdirect@gmail.com
    Bank wire issues should be sent to: Bank@ProfitableSunRise.com

    DO NOT send emails to Nanci Jo Frazer (SHE IS ON VACATION) and DO NOT send emails to:
    Rev. Jon Simmons. HE IS WORKING FULL TIME ON THE WEBSITES REVISIONS AND CAN NOT BE INTERRUPTED.
    (We need to honor these two people so they can get their jobs done so we can enjoy our program for years and years to come)

    Comments were made that a SMALL number of people were on this call this morning and Rev. Jon Simmons asked that all of us on the call would help remind our team what was talked about. Have a GREAT week end folks.

    And the Beat Goes On..........
    Well if the NC Secretary of State did issue a "desist and decease order," then we will soon find out if God is blessing PS if Roman can raise it from the dead.
    Last edited by EagleOne; 03-30-2013 at 12:24 PM.
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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    It is really fun to watch all the shills and players trying their hardest to downplay the NC Secretary of State action. They all know this is the beginning of the end, and they are doing all they can to try to keep the newbies calm. What you have to focus on is that not one "promoter" of PS is defending PS in this action by the NC Secretary of State. They are nowhere to be found. They know this is the death knell for PS and want to be as far away from this as possible when it explodes. Their silence speaks volumes to all of who expose these Ponzi's but to the newbie they have no clue why this fact is important. Well, they will once I get done telling them on the other forums.

    Can't have the promoters defending PS now. After all, it hurts recruting for their next Ponzi de Jour.
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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    Getting "newbie" members is the one thing a HYIP ponzi fraud has to do on a regular basis or it simply cannot survive, much less grow.

    Forget about pimps, shills and HYIP ponzi players and their arguments, the average man/woman in the street will run a mile from anything which even has a hint of illegality about it, ESPECIALLY when that hint has an official cease and desist action behind it.

    It may not be THE fatal blow to Profitable Sunrise, but, rest assured, Profitable Sunrise is now officially on life support.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Merchant of Truth, quoting Profitable Sunrise apologist View Post
    . . . so that payments can be made for those who's contracts are maturing . . .
    As is typical in HYIP scams, the members are confessing that Profitable Sunrise is selling unregistered securities as investment contracts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Merchant of Truth, quoting Profitable Sunrise apologist View Post
    We as a group ARE NOT to use the words: Investment, return on investment. Rather: We as affiliates provide Loans
    Could have come straight from the ASD or Legisi playbooks. The 2010 indictment against ASD's Andy Bowdoin even quotes him laying out the linguistic charade for his $119 million scam. (The 2008 forfeiture action in the civil case quotes an ASD cheerleader, who was speaking to an undercover agent, laying out about the same story that the Profitable Sunrise apologist now is using. Meanwhile, there is a transcript in the Legisi case in which operator Gregory N. McKnight was telling two undercover agents that he was in the "loan" business.

    The Legisi scam gathered about $72 million.

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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Profitable Sunrise shill
    We as affiliates provide Loans
    To US citizens on a recurring commercial basis without fulfilling the necessary legal requirements.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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