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Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?
A friend of mine wants me to join My Advertising Pays. I do not want to be rude to him, but I do want to show him some facts.
So, can you please tell me if you think MAPS is a scam or ponzi?
Then I can show this to my friend, and not hurt our friendship.
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We can go one better, SpiderBear,
have a read of OzSoapbox' in depth MyAdvertisingPays Review: $49.99 Ponzi investment scheme on his well respected BehindMLM blog
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Again, welcome to the site. Your quote from the other thread.
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SpiderBear
I have come here to educate myself about scams, as I have just been scammed in the past by Bannersbroker.
Hopefully I can learn alot from this website.
As you probably know or should know at this point Simon Stepsys was one of the first promoters of http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b...onzi-scam-897/, claiming to be a MILLIONAIRE. He left in 2012 right before payments to people like yourself dried up. He moved to http://www.realscam.com/f8/empower-network-1659/ again cashing in big and then moving on to MAP and who knows what else. As of today, I have 90 emails from him in my spam folder. If he is making so much money from running legitimate businesses, the right question is why all the spam?
We are not talking about serial entrepreneurs like Elon Musk or Richard Branson who employ thousands and add real value to the world. My Advertising Pays is but one more in a long list of scams promoted by "internet marketers" designed to part you from your money. Plain and simple if someone is trying to recruit you and you in turn have to recruit others, it is a scam. Not only mathematically impossible for 99% not to lose, the story is improbable. There are enough people/institutions out there will millions to invest in real deals, one can safely conclude that ANYTHING being marketed like this is bullshit.
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Let's take an excerpt from one of Simon's Emails....
CEO: Mike Deese (retired United States Air Force Veteran)
Mike has been in the trenches with Zeek, ASD, BB,
Ad Hit Profits, and many other advertising revenue sharing
companies some of which continue to thrive and some that are not.
IF THE EMAIL TELLS YOU THE CEO HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN 4 PONZI SCHEMES, WHAT ON EARTH DO YOU SUPPOSE THIS IS?
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2 view ads, (10 ads which takes 5 mins)
3 get paid daily. (up to 72 times daily)
NO ONE IS GOING TO PAY YOU ENOUGH TO LOOK AT 10 ADS TO MAKE ANY MONEY. Porn, boner bills, get rich quick, and diet products where you can eat whatever you want and still lose weight. Give me a break, what kind of model is that? Unless they plan on selling you more crap, where is the upside for them? Seriously who the hell is going to pay you to look at ads, specifically?
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Already he has corporations interested in advertising
waiting in the wings for the membership to hit a certain
threshold of 5000+ which will happen fast. (Over 63,000 members already)
So 12 viewers for every corporation, well that should be a winner.
You lost on Banners Broker, learn from it. No one is going to give you something for nothing in this world. Simon's talent lies in making you believe they will.
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Ribshaw, thank you for the posting above.
I have seen that the vile Stepsys is now promotinbg MAPS madly, but I couldn't get a handle on what it actually was. I have a bit more idea now.
But wait! What is this from the "Simon Stepsys MAPS Success FB Group" (or whatever it is actually called)? Yes, they are having "technical issues" but an announcement will be made in due course......
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Reminds me so much of Banners Broker, what with comments about MAPS being a "baby" in the online world, the programming team working to solve the "problem" etc etc. I wonder if it will go the same way?
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arblaster was in banners broker too.
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Della Cate
Reminds me so much of Banners Broker, what with comments about MAPS being a "baby" in the online world, the programming team working to solve the "problem" etc etc. I wonder if it will go the same way?
Sounds like MAPS is already swirling the bowl. Richard Arblaster was so wrong about Banners Broker now this? At least all he has to do is tear the cover off the BB excuse manual and the sheep should be good for about two years worth of shearing.
"growing pains"
"carry on promoting"
"Sales are still being made, you just can't have any of your share right now"
"Server Capacity"
"We can still take deposits" Just kidding, I made that part up based on Simon's spam to me today which curiously fails to mention not being able to pay people.
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"Rest assured Chris Smith er I mean Mike Deese is furiously working with his programers to master the sending part of wire transfers."
"You won't lose if you stay positive"
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Sound like the excuse train is leaving the station.
Simon Septic had a a MAPS sign up event in London hotel on saturday. One last $ grab/sucker hunt till he moves on.
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Della Cate
Ribshaw, thank you for the posting above.
I have seen that the vile Stepsys is now promotinbg MAPS madly, but I couldn't get a handle on what it actually was. I have a bit more idea now.
But wait! What is this from the "Simon Stepsys MAPS Success FB Group" (or whatever it is actually called)? Yes, they are having "technical issues" but an announcement will be made in due course......
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Reminds me so much of Banners Broker, what with comments about MAPS being a "baby" in the online world, the programming team working to solve the "problem" etc etc. I wonder if it will go the same way?
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Now what is truly shocking is that this is not being promoted on the two biggest Ponzi boards going, so no wonder it is in trouble already. Even the Ponzi pimp king Ken Russo can't help save this one. Another in a long line of Ken's failed programs, but at least he is one of the first to call it a Ponzi! Yep he actually said that, and the sad truth is he truly believes it. Talk about a sociopath.
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Hmmm. The similarities with BB continue...........now it is problems with servers, ongoing maintenance and "don't mention the word investment"! Plus, I have started to see some of the same names from BB......
Deja vu, anyone?
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Interesting how there is an emphasis on recuiting too, isn't it?
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Whip
arblaster was in banners broker too.
How can I put this without being nasty? I have the distinct impression that he is not the sharpest knife in the cutlery drawer......
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Yup. Going the way of BB alright.....
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Simon's Webinar? Anyone with 1/2 a brain will run screaming 10 seconds in... .He comes across as so scammish and cheezy.
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Della Cate
How can I put this without being nasty? I have the distinct impression that he is not the sharpest knife in the cutlery drawer......
Based on looks....you would guess developmental issues. Dont believe that is the case.
Moneygames are his side bz, he makes good $ off his traffic exchange related businesses. Autoreponders, upgrades, etc.
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So, right, with MAPS you have to look at 10 ads a day (for 10 seconds each time), and from that you make money?
Oh, that and buying "credit packs" of course. And clearly from recruiting others.
Based on what I have learned from BB, doesn't that make it yet another pyramid scheme or ponzi scheme? Trying to keep objective here, but I cannot see how looking at 10 ads a day can make you any money. If you do make money from this, it can only be fractions of a penny per time. It looks to me that this is pretendy work to try to cover the fact that the heart of the scheme is credit packs and recruiting.
I'm not convinced. And the main reason I woulod never join can be summed up in two words: Simon Stepsys.
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doesn't that make it yet another pyramid scheme or ponzi scheme?
That makes it yet another pyramid AND ponzi scheme
In the current HYIP climate, the two are not mutually exclusive.
For the HYIP ponzi "industry" Pyramid / ponzi combos are the strategy du jour
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This has been posted on the Simon Stepsys MAPS FB group. It reminds me of something (especially the bit about being patient) but I cannot think quite what.....
I feel the need to drop by & explain to all members, who are wondering why MAP profit-share earnings have paused for some of you!
This is most especially to our New members!
Our server has once again maxed out due to MAPs growth. Thousands upon thousands of lines of data are processed every 20 minutes. We have been working on it in the background for the last two weeks, with test periods in between the tweaks. This has resulted in less-than-expected results from our payouts.
We have gotten it to where it's paying more correctly, however we still have work to do. We are evaluating now to determine how much memory and processing power we need to add to our current set-up in order to more efficiently process this immense amount of data.
We are implementing a plan put together by multiple programmers over the next week. Never has their been a site processing so many records every 20 minutes except possibly eBay!
You will see improvement soon. In the meantime please, be patient. Your credit packs will always mature at $60.
Because we had to reboot the server, the timer is not working correctly at the moment. That will be restored later. Please, just view your 10 ads when the bar is still green.
Your patience is much appreciated!
Ah yes, I remember! It reminds me of Banner Broker when it stopped paying people.
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Della Cate
So, right, with MAPS you have to look at 10 ads a day (for 10 seconds each time), and from that you make money?
Oh, that and buying "credit packs" of course. And clearly from recruiting others.
Based on what I have learned from BB, doesn't that make it yet another pyramid scheme or ponzi scheme? Trying to keep objective here, but I cannot see how looking at 10 ads a day can make you any money. If you do make money from this, it can only be fractions of a penny per time. It looks to me that this is pretendy work to try to cover the fact that the heart of the scheme is credit packs and recruiting.
I'm not convinced. And the main reason I woulod never join can be summed up in two words: Simon Stepsys.
It's exactly what Ad Surf Daily (ASD) was.
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It seems that not everything in the MAPS garden is lovely. There are 2 warnings on Simon S's Maps success group FB page about negativity. Anyone who doesn't join in the general ra-ra-rahing is likely to be banned for life. Interestingly, one warning states that new members to the group will see these naughty comments and it might put them off.
And that would never do, would it?
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Why wouldn't septic just post it himself?
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Whip
It's exactly what Ad Surf Daily (ASD) was.
Oh, right. I have heard of ASD, but know almost nothing about it. I assume it does not exist any more?
Leading on from this, I have had my calculator out. Now, it seems to me that MAPS urges people to work up to 1200 credit packs.
1200 credit packs at $50 each would cost $60,000. The promise is that each pack costing $50 "matures" so that you get $60 back. So if you had 1200 packs you would have spent $60,000 to get $72,000 back.
That is an awful lot of money, both to spend out in the first place and then to return. However, you only need 100 people giving you $60,000 and you have got $6million. But none of it seems sustainable to me.
I don't think they will get many people putting that amount of money in (at least I hope not!), but they certainly have had some people buying 100 packs at a time at a cost of $5000. It's not hard to see how the money rolls in. And it's not hard to see why people like the repulsive Stepsys push it so hard and push people to buy as many packs as they can.
Looking at the amount of money Banners Broker pulled in - well, many millions - its also easy to see why people start these schemes. The whole thing makes me feel quite sick.
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Whip
Why wouldn't septic just post it himself?
'E's too busy being important and most of all......being ADDICTED TO MONEY!!!
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Della Cate
'E's too busy being important and most of all......being ADDICTED TO MONEY!!!
You are quite right Della, but surely you mean other peoples money? :RpS_smile:
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Today's email, no mention of people not being paid, to the contrary apparently the easy money flows like lies from Simon's lips...
SCAMMER Simon Stepsys simon@simonstepsys.orangehome.co.uk
Warning!
Please be warned that being a member of MyAdvertisingPays
is HIGHLY Addictive.
Every time you refresh your browser you make money.
Even brand new people who have never made money before are making money
in the very first day.
This is not a one off either...
In Fact Everybody makes money with MyAdvertisingPays.
:shocked:100%:shocked:
$1,281 - $10,561+ a Day which requires only 5 minutes a day clicking to maintain.:RpS_lol::RpS_lol::RpS_lol:
This isn't any kind of gimmick, this is 100% real with PROVEN results.
In fact I'm personally averaging well over $3,127+ daily.
The last 24 hours I made over $3,418
You won't sleep when you see this working for you. (my results not typical)
Unofficial Disclaimer:
Simon's results come solely from affiliate losses, no amount of positive affirmations or sky diving photos will change that fact.
Open an account here...
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And just like BB (and countless other, er, schemes) there are certain words that are forbidden. This has been posted on the Simon Stepsys MAPS FB page:-
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......but scamming people into dodgy schemes will?
I think he really is a vile little toad.
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Della Cate
I think he really is a vile little toad.
I think you're doing a disservice to toads
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......but scamming people into dodgy schemes will?
I think he really is a vile little toad.
Even a mcdonalds burger flipper can afford a fake rolex like septic. I don't get it. why would he lie? scamming IS his day job. So what is he saying? He really works a real job somewhere?
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What I find the most repulsive about Stepsys (and there are many things!) is the way he worships luxury brands, and pushes them as the ultimate goal for people who join his schemes. It's just so shallow!
It's all over his FB pages. The endless boasting. I can buy a Porsche. I have a Rolex watch (frightfuly common, actually darling, Tag Heur or Breitling are much classier). I travel first class. I go on important trips abroad. I stay in 5 star hotels. Whether he actually does these things or has these things is a debatable point. He boasts as if he has and does them, and sets them up as something to aspire to. Do people REALLY think they can be like him if they stick in his schemes long enough?
I think he probably does get money from his schemes, but only because he pushes them so much, and often appears to be the promoter in chief (and so I assume he gets other payments from the scheme for his "work"). How much is another point entirely. Does he declare his "income" to the tax man, or is it all cash in hand? Does he keep his money in a bank or under the mattress? Does he have another job somewhere (I assume not)?
If he is supposed to be a role model, then there really is no hope. If I was ever considering one of his schemes, the first time I saw him, I would walk out. As soon as you see him - the spivvy suit, no tie, cuffs undone, big watch, big tacky ring (not the BB one though!) - and hear him; you know exactly what he is.
No amount of boasting or quoting from "The Wolf of Wall Street" can ever hide it. Because when he has his "cheeky pints" and peddles his wares in hired hotel rooms to people desperate enough or stupid enough to think they can make a fortune just like Simon, he reveals his real self.
He's not even nice and amusing like Del Boy or Arthur Dailey (UK TV characters from the 1980's). He comes over to me as cheap and tacky and dodgy as hell.
I think so anyway. Rant over!
(PS: In the UK, a real gentleman would not boast of anything he has or does. Firstly, because it's just not done, and secondly, because to him these things are not exceptional and so do not need even speaking about. )
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Here we go......down the BB route of what can be loosely described as "IT problems".
But affiliates are being thanked for their patience. Just like BB!
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PEOPLE - DO NOT JOIN THIS!
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GOING.......GOING.......GOING.........GOING.......
Any new money going into this one now is gone forever......no matter what Septic Simon Stepsys says
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Della Cate
What I find the most repulsive about Stepsys (and there are many things!) is the way he worships luxury brands, and pushes them as the ultimate goal for people who join his schemes. It's just so shallow!
It's all over his FB pages. The endless boasting. I can buy a Porsche. I have a Rolex watch (frightfuly common, actually darling, Tag Heur or Breitling are much classier). I travel first class. I go on important trips abroad. I stay in 5 star hotels. Whether he actually does these things or has these things is a debatable point. He boasts as if he has and does them, and sets them up as something to aspire to. Do people REALLY think they can be like him if they stick in his schemes long enough?
I think he probably does get money from his schemes, but only because he pushes them so much, and often appears to be the promoter in chief (and so I assume he gets other payments from the scheme for his "work"). How much is another point entirely. Does he declare his "income" to the tax man, or is it all cash in hand? Does he keep his money in a bank or under the mattress? Does he have another job somewhere (I assume not)?
If he is supposed to be a role model, then there really is no hope. If I was ever considering one of his schemes, the first time I saw him, I would walk out. As soon as you see him - the spivvy suit, no tie, cuffs undone, big watch, big tacky ring (not the BB one though!) - and hear him; you know exactly what he is.
No amount of boasting or quoting from "The Wolf of Wall Street" can ever hide it. Because when he has his "cheeky pints" and peddles his wares in hired hotel rooms to people desperate enough or stupid enough to think they can make a fortune just like Simon, he reveals his real self.
He's not even nice and amusing like Del Boy or Arthur Dailey (UK TV characters from the 1980's). He comes over to me as cheap and tacky and dodgy as hell.
I think so anyway. Rant over!
(PS: In the UK, a real gentleman would not boast of anything he has or does. Firstly, because it's just not done, and secondly, because to him these things are not exceptional and so do not need even speaking about. )
I'll second the rant. What's even sadder is Septic is presenting himself exactly the way network marketing wants you to - Amway in their jewels and long dresses led the way.
It's a disgusting, pitiful "business system" to be associated with. Everyone in it is a con man but some just don't realize it. Lol
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Della Cate
And just like BB (and countless other, er, schemes) there are certain words that are forbidden. This has been posted on the Simon Stepsys MAPS FB page:-
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These people forever seem to not understand how the law works.
If someone pays someone else for sex under the law it is prostitution, no matter what they "call" the transaction. If someone solicits funds for something that is legally speaking an investment as defined by the Howey Test then calling it "credit packs" means nothing. Scammers could flash secret grifter gang signs for all it matters, they are still soliciting funds for a quasi Pyramid/Ponzi Scheme.
No matter what nomenclature they choose, the adjective gone comes to mind for any money "invested".
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Scammers could flash secret grifter gang signs for all it matters
isn't that what septic has been doing the last couple years?
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Meanwhile, payment problems have started - apart from those with "older credit packs" (my translation: "they got in the scheme early")
The similarities to BB are startling.....waiting for the new scritp to be written/new version to come out.....being urged to "have faith" and "have patience". People should heed the warning signs!
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"sigh"
There's one thing you can bank on with HYIP ponzi frauds:
"The singer may change, but the song remains the same"
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The Excuse Train chugs on and on....
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Oh, the unintended irony! Found this picture over on the SS Maps Success Group FB page.
For anyone who does not know, this is a TV character called Del Boy from a UK comedy programme called "Only Fools and Horses", about the trials and tribulations of the Trotter family from London (Del Boy, his brother Rodney - Rodders - and first Grandad and then Uncle Albert). They started off as market traders, as people dealing from suitcases in the street, selling cheap and often knocked off gear with a dodgy background - such as fire damaged smoke alarms or leaking raincoats. The series was very popular - I still find it funny - but the characters, although slightly dodgy, were all affectionately played and clearly not real criminals. Del Boy's big saying was, "Once day, Rodney, we'll be millionaires!". And they did make it, through a very rare watch that they sold for several £million.
They did not make it through dodgy online schemes though.
But the irony of dear Richard Arblaster, comparing Mappers to a dodgy market dealer, does not escape me! Sure you quite meant this, Dickie?
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