Empower Network
Alarm bells
What do you think?
Does anybody know more about this 'lucrative business opportunity'?
Empower Network | Building a business while having a life.
Jason
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Empower Network
Alarm bells
What do you think?
Does anybody know more about this 'lucrative business opportunity'?
Empower Network | Building a business while having a life.
Jason
Hello, I have participated in the Empower Network. Here is what the Empower Network offers you. It offers you the opportunity to make blogging easy fast and fun. Allowing you to blog on a platform which is an authority blog. Making it easier for your topics of interest to be seen. In addition it offers you the opportunity to offer others the option of blogging and being seen on this platform as well. Mr. David Wood does do all the selling for you and it does have the potential to be very lucrative for some people who join this network. What they don't tell you is that your twenty five dollar payment gets you access to blogging but then you need to pay an additional $19.99 to set up the payment processor and the processor puts a hold on your payments for a short amount of time before you actually receive it into your hands. Other than this Although as Mr. David Woods states the earnings of the people mentioned like Lawrence Tam are extraordinary so in other words don't expect it to happen overnight. With this being said 25.00 plus the $19.99 for the processing of unlimited payments is not a bad deal but it would be nice if they told the people this upfront instead, so I would say that if you have an extra forty bucks then go for it. It will pay you if and when you earn the money. Also included in the purchase is all the leads you capture of people who want to run a home based business in which you you own.
Top Empower Network Leaders Jason C. Waite and Peter Day Share Stories | 12 K / Month
They have made dozens (hundreds) of videos and it looks a lot like any other scam.
I have not watched a video, they are sickening to me. It is all the same old, some old...Quote:
Top Empower Network Leaders Jason C. Waite and Peter Day Share Stories in San Diego, California.Here’s a link to Jason C. Waite’s blog http As well to learn more about Jason Waite and Peter Day check out the future videos and blogs to come up
Domain Name: EMPOWERNETWORK.COM
Created on: 07-Jan-06
Expires on: 07-Jan-21 Last Updated on: 02-Nov-11
Registrant: Empower Network, LLC
3160 9th Ave North
Saint Petersburg, Florida 33713 United State
s Administrative Contact: Wood, David legal@empowernetwork.com
Empower Network, LLC
3160 9th Ave North
Saint Petersburg, Florida 33713
United States +1.8015429350
Technical Contact: Wood, David legal@empowernetwork.com
Empower Network, LLC
3160 9th Ave North
Saint Petersburg, Florida 33713
United States +1.8015429350
Domain servers in listed order:
NS.SOURCEDNS.COM
NS1.SOURCEDNS.COM
Looks like a group of young network marketers.
It is advertised and promoted in Scamland by Denis Charest -
Bienvenue chez denischarest Does this free system work?
Even the scammer queen is using the slogan to sell her own scam.Quote:
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Thnak's to take time to visit me:
Denis Charest
Skype: dcharest1
Become MORE Financially EMPOWERED at a Much Lower Cost!
By Kathleen Vanbeekom.
There is your catch line!! It will pay you if and when you earn the money
You invest $40 and think you can sit back and make money, no way! You will work your but* off and maybe get your investment back but earning with these type programs, you have to be a top leader or professional crook.
No need for anyone at REALSCAM.com to do anything.
Empower Network is quite capable of doing itself in , all on it's ownsome:
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31% of average weekly earners earn $4624 per YEAR.
55% of average weekly earners earn $1386 per YEAR
Empower Network income disclosure statement
Anyone who pays money to try and buck the trend is welcome to it.
Empower network is best described as Article Farm meets MLM.
The difference is most article farms operate for free, but you need to PAY to do Empowered.
And since Google have pretty much fried all the article farms with Panda and Penguin updates, Empowered never really had a chance.
Also note that they have a definition of "active affiliate", which means the percentages shown are NOT of all affiliates.
ok, so far we have established that this is a scam because... they tell you straight up, you wont make money if you dont work hard. The audacity of them.
How do i vote this up to the top of the scam leaderboard? It should defo be above that banners broker lot who tell you that actually, you can grow money on trees.
@buckyuk -- it's a scam only in the sense that it convinces you to pay for something that should be free: a blogging platform. They disguise it by adding all the MLM stuff around it like lessons, seminars, etc. And who's doing the seminars? Head of Empower, of course. Who wrote the lessons, Head of Empower, who else. It's a fancy version of "MLM Coach", albeit reworded to emphasize the income opportunity, not that you're paying for his "training".
In other words, it's MLM about MLM. :)
Here's an outline of six types of MLMers, should explain how this type of people think.
Six Types of Network Marketers: which type are you?
I still believe in working smart and not spending $$$ to do that. I do not need to be "EMPOWERED"
See Kevin Huska, the owner of Empower Network, hawking his services his services on Scamlandpro.
KevinHuska claims to be the ownwer of Empower Network and he offers his services coaching newbies
Kevin Huska's Adlandpro profile.
Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/knhinc7.aspx then community.adlandpro.com/members/knhinc7.aspx
I have uploaded a screenshot on my7 own server jusy in case the evidence gets deleted
Kevin Huska Scamland profile.
Kevin Huska's blog.
Quote from Kevin's blog
"Arent you tired of living life in a dream? A dream you keep playing out in your mind, but that's as far as it get's? Maybe you have some personal thing's going on that you need to deal with and that is what is keeping you from making ALL of your dreams come true. I know for me, year's of addiction and living life in my "not so good head" kept me from making my dreams come true....A happy life, a happy wife and children, a life free of financial burden! Well I got clean, cleared my head up and made my dreams come true and so can you. Click on the link's below to see how I was able to live my life and make my dreams come true and now, I'm here to help other's do the same. I am living proof. The picture to the left I personally drew in the sand on Our 14th Wedding Anniversary was on our first ever Bahama Cruise after coming addiction free, with a cleared mind, and full of financial freedom.
KEVIN HUSKA
702-371-9684
Visit my links below to see some proof of who we are and what we have to offer to you:
My Blog: Kevin Huska's Empower Network Blog | Building a business while having a life.
True Story: Empower Network: Weird Recruiting Trick
True Story2: Empower Network: Weird Recruiting Trick
Commission Loophole: Almost a Secret
Marketing Tips: Almost a Secret
3 things anyone can do: Empower Network: They love to buy
Jump Right In: www.empowernetwork.com/join.php?id=knhinc
P.S. We DO NOT sale any email's or information that you may film out in one of our form's.
And for help from life's hurt's, pain's, addiction's (whether current or past), find a Recovery place that I have been a part of for 5 years and have personally seen many people recover, become clean and have seen many marriage's saved (including mine) visit: Celebrate Recovery and find an area near you. May God Bless."
I guess when it comes to ripping people off, one who hasn't done it would definitely need a 'coach'.
OK. I'm confused by this statement as you have Empower Network as one of the recommended programs on your site (bottom of page):
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Central question is this - Where does the revenue in empower network come from?
As far as i can see it comes from people lower down from you buying empower network products which seem to be lectures about empower network.
http://www.empowernetwork.com/downlo...tion-model.pdf
Which to me says "we get the money first" You but a product you sell it to someone else you keep the third ones money and the fifth and we get four and six. They do the same for you. In short, if you get six people and each of them get six, and each of them six,Quote:
Currently, all of our products operate on a ʻdynamic powerlineʼ system, where the 2nd, 4th, 6th and
every 5th sale of every affiliate pass to the qualifying sponsor, and you keep 100% of the purchase and
ongoing price on all other personal sales on products you qualify for.
you will pass on the money from four of the the six to us
and of the 36 people your six get you will get the money from 24 which means your six will pass on 12 to us
And the 36 below them will have to get 1296 subscribers but before they do we will get 16 of every 26
we allow this net to be incomplete but only by you buying up two spaces yourself instead of six spaces and us getting the revenue stream from them downstream and it not going to you.Quote:
Customers (non affiliates) also have the ability to refer other customers. Although they donʼt receive
commissions, they have the ability to get a free product, or a free subscription, by maintaining 2 active
customer referrals of that product.
In short, the way it looks to me, the money you get comes from people lower down the chain and not from outside the system.
Which by the way is the definition of a Ponzi scheme.
Ponzi or pyramid, it simply doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beacon
Let's just call it an "endless chain recruitment scheme" and be done with it.
Whatever it's called, smart people will stay away and the get-rich-quickers will flock to it.
Fair enough but by definition a Ponzi is a scheme whereby the payoff/income for early investors comes from the subscription of later investors.
Thus the "endless recruitment" stipulation. The central point is "where does the money come from"? THe poijnt is the money comes from inside the system from later investors. In Ireland for example this happened to banks e.g. Anglo Irish. They loaned developers money to build property. then when the developers couldnt pay back and share prices were dropping they used their own money to buy shares in the bank!
Chairman Sean FitzPatrick, and CEO David Drumm, and board member Lars Bradshaw had taken out loans in order to purchase Anglo Irish shares.
The point is, Beacon,
many of these pseudo MLMs aren't "A" ponzi or "A" pyramid scheme.
It's one of the methods by which fraudsters throw many potential victims off track by pointing out their particular scam-du-jour isn't a "pure" ponzi or pyramid.
On a purely mathematical basis, ponzis don't work in the long term and neither do pyramid schemes.
Put the two together, con people into believing the particular fraud isn't a "pure" ponzi / pyramid and you have a recipe for disaster.
Ask around your friends and acquaintances, how many of them have ever heard of a "ponzi" OR a "pyramid" ??
Of those that do, how many of them truly understand how either works.
Better still, ask the victims of the last few "next big thing" HYIP ponzi and pyramid schemes if, even after their money disappeared, THEY understand how it was done.
The serial fraudsters also put a lot of effort into misleading their victims as to what defines either a Ponzi or a pyramid.
Which is why in the last few prosecutions, the terms "ponzi" and "pyramid" are used purely descriptively by prosecutors.
The charges have been of "fraud" "wirefraud" "money laundering" "conspiracy to commit fraud" and "conspiracy to commit money laundering"
Unlike get-rich-quickers and those behind pseudo MLMs such as Empower Network, whether an "opportunity" is either and ponzi or a pyramid or a combination of both matters little to prosecutors when fraud and money laundering have occurred.
Neither should it matter to victims or potential victims.
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Empower Network Income statement
Here ya go.
In Empowers' own words.
54% of average weekly earners earn $1399 PER YEAR
That's TOTAL INCOME. Total income BEFORE expenses
33% of average weekly earners earn $4480 PER YEAR.
That's TOTAL INCOME. Total income BEFORE expenses
That means, 87% of all Empower Networks' average weekly earners' average income is less than $4480 PER YEAR
No mention of outgoings or expenses, INCOME
For a company selling itself based on its' supposed "Search Engine Optimization" results, Empower Network sure as heck doesn't show up too well:
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Alexa Empower Network Statistics Summary
5.1% of the entire Empower Networks' traffic came from a search engine
Yesterday 5.1% -18% http://www.alexa.com/images/arrows/down_arrow.gif
Can we assume the other 94.9% of the NETWORKS' traffic came from inside Empower itself and not from new visitors using search engines ??
More evidence Empower Network is little more than a barely disguised cash gifting based get-rich-quick scheme
Oh dear,
when YouTube singles out videos and bans them from among the millions uploaded every day, you just KNOW you're promoting a get-rich-quick scheme.
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/455/you1w.jpg
YouTube Banned Videos | Dana Che's Empower Network Blog
Facebook has a group "Empower Network" -
Why is Empower Network so special?
There has been a huge impact for its unique approach by the 100% commissions paid when you join, compared to 50% like most other affiliate or network marketing offers.
Unlike other online businesses, the Empower Network will allow you can start from a little of $25 per month and upgrade for more leverage and huge earning potential.
Get in here ->
http://socialmediabar.com/david-wood-almost-a-secret
- Shantha Rodrigo
Founder,
Money Star Network
*** This is not the official Empower Network Page and there is no any Official Empower Network Page out there on Facebook called Empower Network. If you want to communicate with Empower Network, you need to use the Customer Service contact details.
https://www.facebook.com/EmpoweNetwork?fref=ts
I saw where a friend was thinking about getting and asking opinions on it...
It seems YouTube has woken up to the fact it's services are being used to promote the Empower Network fraud.
Do a quick Google using the terms: "empower network suspended youtube" and you'll see 10 pages of people complaining YouTube is systematically suspending the accounts of anyone attempting to promote Empower Network via YouTube.
As far back as August 2012 Facebook was banning Empower Network related sites:
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Empower Network blog
Empower Network is hawked by Scamlander Michele Cook
Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/MasteringIncome.aspx
See what Michele Cook AKA MasteringIncome describes as her 1RatedHomeBusiness. It is none other than Empower Network.
Type http://www then adlandpro.com/ad/1473243/1-Rated-Home-Business.aspx?index=0&total=2&
See Michelle's methods for tutoring online.
Type http:// then simple2advertise.com/c/?u=masteringincome&c=personal2&ad=
These type of methods which she call "tutoring" are enough to tell anybody that the opportunity is a load of crap.
I need to check out MMG and TG for more on Empower Network. Does anyone know what is happening with this now? A Zeekler promoter is now into this one, still I fail to understand the mentality of getting into these 'programs', especially after one just went down that you were involved with. Is it like train-hopping?
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Empower Network Media.
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They deserve a standing ovation.
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The big promoter over in MMG is none other than Ernie Rhyker Kasteleijn.
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Check out his FB account - https://www.facebook.com/rhyker2u
Empowernetwork.com Site Info
Not so good as posted on their lead in page.
Empower Network - 10,000 New Blogging Customers In February 2013
You think??!!!Quote:
Tracey Walker from Atlanta, Georgia, USA has hit in January 2013 the $67,000 per month mark with her Empower Network distributorship. Since starting her Empower Network distributorship in October 2011 she has made close to $400,000+ as of february 2013.
Tracey Walker - Empower Network Hits $67,000 Per Month
Disclaimer:
Empower Network Disclaimer:
The results mentioned above and below are extraordinary, and by no means typical. To view Empower Network's full income disclosure document and the average earnings please visit: Empower Network: Income Disclosure
Empower Network pays a commission pursuant to the current compensation plan, which is available here. The data shown below is current for the date range shown and is updated frequently. Study our commission structure and the data below. Discuss our company with professional advisors and experienced affiliate marketers before deciding to purchase or promote any of Empower Network's products. Empower Network does not guarantee that you will make any money from your use or promotion of our products and services.
The amount of hours worked required to achieve the stated income varies by participant. The estimates provided above were the result of an informal sampling of Empower Network participants. Basically, it takes hard work to make substantial income in this business, and some people make no money at all. The income statistics above are for all active affiliates world wide for the dates specified above, are based in US dollars, and updated daily. An 'active affiliate' is defined as someone who: 1) Has executed an affiliate application; 2) has qualified to earn commissions; 3) has received at least one direct commission in the last 30 days; 4) has either an approved merchant account, or integrated a payment method in the members area; and 5) has not been terminated, or chosen to discontinue for any reason.
...........
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54% of average weekly earners receive an annualized average amount of $1411
32% of average weekly earners receive an annualized average amount of $4329
5% of average weekly earners receive an annualized average amount of $11,123
However you cut it, that's a whole pile of people not making anywhere near Ms Walkers' fantasy $67,000 a MONTH
I have a new follower on Twitter!!!
Empower Network | 100% Commissions Mastermind Blog | Michael Percy
Hmmmm....
An entity known as Empower Network Media is being hawked on Adlandpro
empowernetworkmedia
When ponzi pimp Carl Haavarldsen pushes the program on Adlandpro, it is time to RUN.
Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2606090/Join-Empower-Network-for-FREE-and-See-Why-So-Many-Are-Now-Joining.aspx
I saw this posted from an EN member on one of the EN facebook pages...
"I just started in the company today and today I figured my checkbook and I'm $132 in the hole!! I honestly feel that the Lord led me to your company and I know this will work!!"
So sad that this person is already struggling and thinks that she will now be saved by the almighty EN. Some people just aren't too bright.
Beware of Empower Network.
Big Ideal Mastermind is part of Empower Network. This pure hype and BS They get you join for $45. Then they tell you that this is the basic level and the training and money you make at this level is not very good and need to upgrade good to the $500 level. or $1000 or all in at $3500. They don't tell you that up front..
Read this.
The hard work will be based on where you're positioned. For so...meone positioned at the bottom it would take 200 sales in a month to get to $5000 per month residual. *NOT taking into account passups* Someone at the $125 silver level it would take only 40 sales. Gold level - 10 sales Platinum level - 5 sales and Diamond level - 2 sales is $6000 a month. It's much less "work" to do 2,5 or 10 sales in a month than it is to do 200. That's why Vick is always talking about how important positioning is.
Wish They told me all this before joining that you needed to up grade or go all in at $3500. They don't tell that to get you to join.
Be very careful joining Empower network and a lot of hype for their training was the biggest disappointment. Charging an arm and a leg for a few hours of recorded webinars of "this is how you publish a blog post" kind of training is... well, it's outrageous.
Of course, Empower Network is more than happy to point fingers rather than addressing the real concerns from both their members and people who are "thinking about it".
P.S. Just found out you have to pay $145 month for training on blogging and using a blog that is $1800 a year. I don't feel right about this. See how David Woods and David sharp are getting rich on a overprice hyped crap and very expensive training on blogging Oh my god. People are falling for this? Help me lord.
I can't push stuff like that and lie to people. I need your opinion people please. $145 month fee for what? Over hyped training and a over priced blog $1800 a month.
Gurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Oh yes and have use there autoresponder, Aweber and getresonse and there not cheap. I am kind of pissed off. Not free more expense.
They never told me this.
need go to my bank before it I to late.
Michael Ladd
I feel I just got scammed.
Beware of Empower Network.
Big Ideal Mastermind is part of Empower Network. This pure hype and BS They get you join for $45. Then they tell you that this is the basic level and the training and money you make at this level is not very good and need to upgrade good to the $500 level. or $1000 or all in at $3500. They don't tell you that up front..
Read this.
The hard work will be based on where you're positioned. For so...meone positioned at the bottom it would take 200 sales in a month to get to $5000 per month residual. *NOT taking into account passups* Someone at the $125 silver level it would take only 40 sales. Gold level - 10 sales Platinum level - 5 sales and Diamond level - 2 sales is $6000 a month. It's much less "work" to do 2,5 or 10 sales in a month than it is to do 200. That's why Vick is always talking about how important positioning is.
Wish They told me all this before joining that you needed to up grade or go all in at $3500. They don't tell that to get you to join.
Be very careful joining Empower network and a lot of hype for their training was the biggest disappointment. Charging an arm and a leg for a few hours of recorded webinars of "this is how you publish a blog post" kind of training is... well, it's outrageous.
Of course, Empower Network is more than happy to point fingers rather than addressing the real concerns from both their members and people who are "thinking about it".
P.S. Just found out you have to pay $145 month for training on blogging and using a blog that is $1800 a year. I don't feel right about this. See how David Woods and David sharp are getting rich on a overprice hyped crap and very expensive training on blogging Oh my god. People are falling for this? Help me lord.
I can't push stuff like that and lie to people. I need your opinion people please. $145 month fee for what? Over hyped training and a over priced blog $1800 a month.
Gurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Oh yes and have use there autoresponder, Aweber and getresonse and there not cheap. I am kind of pissed off. Not free more expense.
They never told me this.
need go to my bank before it I to late.
Michael Ladd
I feel I just got scammed.
Hey its real and getting results to even kids now a days. This is so soothing that even kids are making money with empower network now.