Thread: Yoli?

Hello...I was wondering why no one discusses YOLI on this forum any more. Actually there is not much news on any other MLM forums either. It seems strange that no one has anything to say, I heard they are having massive growth and much success. Just curious why no buzz...

Sounds like your regular MLM to me. Selling snake oil to improve 'health' and bank accounts.

Home Business Review: Is The Yoli Better Body System A Scam?


Our goal is to tell you the good and bad to you can make a more informed decision about Yoli and their Better Body System



You most likely found this page because you are doing your research on Yoli and their Better Body System to see if this is a scam or if it is legit. This page is for you. There is so much confusing information online including a ton of weight loss scams that I felt it important to post my personal review of the Yoli better body system, its company and their products that is a result of a LOT of research and diligence.

Full Disclosure: After significant research and watching Yoli the better body company grow and evolve, I made the decision to take advantage of their products and market their company.

That being said, there are good and bad aspects to every choice one makes and I will outline the positive and negative aspects of Yoli and their Better Body System.

I will apologize in advance. I am more than a little obsessive compulsive when it comes to my research and you may find more detail and cross-referenced links in here than you ever wanted to know. I dont like jumping into anything without doing my homework first and my guess is you don’t either. Hopefully my efforts will help you make an informed decision. If you see any detail here that raises an eyebrow, please contact me and let me know if I missed something. If you are truly wondering if the Yoli Better Body system is a scam, this article should help.

Home Business Review: Is The Yoli Better Body System A Scam

I never trust these reviews...

Actually a search in MMG puts this program here:


This section houses closed, inactive, and offline programs.

Closed programs are programs whose administrators have officially announced the end to their programs.

Inactive programs are programs whose thread on MMG has not had a single post for a period of 4+ weeks.

Offline programs are programs whose websites have been down for a minimum of 7 days.

Yoli Blast Caps - Blastcappowerline.com

So have they revived a dead one and just call it Yoli now??

Found a blog on it:

Yoli

Needs more looking in to it seems...

Originally Posted by dreamstopper

Hello...I was wondering why no one discusses YOLI on this forum any more. Actually there is not much news on any other MLM forums either. It seems strange that no one has anything to say, I heard they are having massive growth and much success. Just curious why no buzz...

So let's start some, what info do you have??!!

Originally Posted by scratchycat

So let's start some, what info do you have??!!

Looks to me like the REAL information he wants to get out is his referral link

I have done more research than any normal person would do. No matter how you search or where you search, you will have a hard time finding any negative information about the company or the products. Is it possible that this is the real deal, that the products are amazing, that the company is on the way to becoming a giant in the industry and that an average person can expect to grow a successful business? An internet search would lead one to believe so.
There is very little discussion, articles, blogs, reviews or anything regarding the company or the products from the early part of 2011 until the company launched the Better Body System in October 2011. The internet was then suddenly bombarded with massive marketing, success stories and reviews. The company experienced mass growth and new distribution. Distributors advanced rapidly in the ranks and this rapid advancement has continued consistently ever since, with distributor stories of instant success, sudden wealth, BMWs and unbelievable opportunity.
I just find this strange. Is this a realistic opportunity for an average person who now wants a piece of the YOLI pie, or is this what “getting in at the right time” is all about. If distributors who were part of the company before the launch knew what was coming and strategically planned for their success well in advance, is this a scam?
I am not here to judge anyone, not the company, the products, the success of the distributors, or anyone who wants to participate. I am also not implying that success is limited to those who already have it, although the guarantee of success is certainly more appealing than the possibility of it.
Is this a legitimate MLM opportunity? Is there such a thing as a legitimate MLM opportunity? Are MLMs all set up with the success of a few dependent on the illusion of success and ultimate failure of the many? If the company has great products, and I believe they do, is the opportunity for success available to everyone? I don’t know, and I don’t really even have an opinion. I am on the fence and searching for the truth, not here looking for a YOLI bashing fest, just information:)

Originally Posted by dreamstopper

I don’t know, and I don’t really even have an opinion. I am on the fence and searching for the truth, not here looking for a YOLI bashing fest, just information:)

First I am going to have to call BS, and I think Gregg is right you are looking to promote this "opportunity". Second, did you read a single thing I posted and further would you like to discuss it in any fashion pro or con?

Finally, this came to me while I was out, but I had read a book a few years ago, All That Glitters Is Not God : Breaking Free from the Sweet Deceit of Multi-Level Marketing: Athena Dean: 9781579211349: Amazon.com: Books. And I think she has a chapter or two about marketing a product that turned out to be dangerous to the consumer. This would concern me if I were marketing pills, or really any weight loss product. What is your personal liability as a distributor? How much risk is the company putting on you since you are acting as an IBO and not an EMPLOYEE? There is a huge degree of difference between the two structures. If you end up flat broke then no worries either way. If you end up successful and a problem later arises, watch out.

Personally, I would never take undertake a business where I could not transfer a good portion of my personal liability via insurance and a corporation.

Ok now lets have three more run on paragraphs about getting in on the ground floor, and BMWs. Please Please.

Dreamstopper is right on the mark. I'll only add that any program that is too good to be true is one do certainly watch out for. It is not FDA approved and people are just slamming this stuff into their bodies. And to add on to what Dreamstopper said about potential lawsuits... this is a huge red flag. Our society today is law suit crazy. People will go after anyone for anything. Far too risky... but good luck if you want in. Like anything, it takes work.

Originally Posted by Gregg

Looks to me like the REAL information he wants to get out is his referral link

Beginning to look that way...

You are correct in the searches I have made that there are lots of places to buy the Yoli products and they even have a Facebook page. So far, I am not finding many negative reviews but did find this one on the Better Body System:

By Cathy222222 - See all my reviewsThis review is from: Yoli Better Body System 30 Day Transformation Kit [CHOCOLATE & VANILLA] {MAXIMUM WEIGHT LOSS} [Shakes, Passion Tropical Melon Thermogenic Energy, Alkalete & Pure] (Health and Beauty)
I cancelled my account and received 2 more shipments after that point. They would not let me return both boxes even though they were shipped after I cancelled the account. They said I didn't cancel the account, even though I did and even returned a box on the account when I cancelled.

Additionally, the shakes did not taste good. If you have to drink two a day, you want them to taste good, which is why I cancelled the account.

Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Yoli Better Body System 30 Day Transformation Kit [CHOCOLATE & VANILLA] {MAXIMUM WEIGHT LOSS} [Shakes, Passion Tropical Melon Thermogenic Energy, Alkalete & Pure]

Most of you in RS know of Troy Dooly, well he was sporting a Yoli T-shirt back in Dec. 2011. I have the link but refrain from posting it right now. Does that give anyone a clue?

Seriously...what are the chances that someone trying to promote an MLM opportunity would call themselves "dreamstopper." Maybe I am just smarter than you think I am...

Originally Posted by dreamstopper

Seriously...what are the chances that someone trying to promote an MLM opportunity would call themselves "dreamstopper." Maybe I am just smarter than you think I am...

I don't know... I call myself "Scratchycat" does that make me smart?

I believe the majority vote would be Hey, it takes one to know one also!! Welcome to RealScam, Dreamstopper, have another cup of coffee and join us in exposing these MLMs and other 'programs'!!

Great minds Scratchy, I went to Amazon last night and poked around. I find it ironic that two of the five star reviews from Supersexy and Superhotsexy or whatever where from people who made 1 and 2 review for for wait for it..... Yoli products. Must be great stuff to lead people to create an account just to write one review.

My other thought is if it is on Amazon, where is the advantage? Amazon is literally the first and usually the last place I go for any purchase. I like the reviews, the prices are usually the best I can find, they already have my credit card on file (why have it more than a few places these days) and the autoship is great. One heck of a competitor.

My basic observation with most of the MLMs that I see is you have to recruit an awful lot to make any real money. Yick.
Then you have to keep the ones you do recruit motivated and out recruiting and filling their garages with product (garage qualified I think its called). Double Yick.

The MLM products always seem more expensive than you could yet elsewhere. I know concentrated, better quality, the best nutrients in the world, blah blah blah.

I found one seller on Ebay with a lose 7-15 in 1 Week with the Yoli better body system weight loss program, 10 are available for sale at $340, with "0" sold.

7 bottles of Yoli Alkalete Weight Loss PH balance Electrolyte Capsule Alkaline Pill ( I lost 3 lbs just typing that) that had 19 bids and sold for $212.50. Ad says they normally sell for $35 per plus S&H.

Here is a link from EBAY of completed listings from the search of YOLI, a few other items appear.

yoli | eBay

Not exactly moving like hotcakes but certainly a few of the products mostly the pills seem to be selling.

I then did a quick search of completed items from Herbalife because I assume they have been around longer. The completed items list for YOLI including non related items fit on one page at 200 items per page. The Herbalife search at 200 items per page had 19 pages I could see and I quit toggling forward to see the actual count.

herbalife | eBay

So unless you are an EBAY auction master I don't see how anyone could compete on anything other than price, and as more and more garage qualified participants start dumping their goods on the market the price will go down and down while the listings will go up and up. This is exactly what happened with Herbalife based on page count alone.

If you are good at recruiting and good at selling a high priced product in a commodity market then I suppose you will do well. But then I would say if you can do that, you would do well in any sales capacity, and probably with less aggravation. And quality does not matter as affiliates and MORE IMPORTANTLY CONSUMERS are willing to turn to an auction market.

I suspect for most people they would have just as much, if any success buying a commodity like Ginsu knives and going straight to Ebay to compete.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Not exactly moving like hotcakes

I am always amused at this saying. Have you ever been to a Carnaval or fair and even seen a Hotcakes stand? Hotcakes just don't sell. Maybe the saying should be selling like petrol half price during a gas crises? Ya know what I mean?

I am looking for stuff on known serial date scammer and MLM ponzi promoter Riccardo Ferrari.

Originally Posted by Talia Zurita

Maybe the saying should be selling like petrol half price during a gas crises?

Yes if you want something hard to say that will cause people to stare at their fingers.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-9872420.html

Originally Posted by Talia Zurita

I am looking for stuff on known serial date scammer and MLM ponzi promoter Riccardo Ferrari.

You should start a thread for him, here are a few links to get you started. I found one reference to dating but I'm not clear from the post what he allegedly did so I omitted it.

https://www.facebook.com/FerrariMarketingTeam/

Riccardo Ferrari | Entrepreneur, Marketing Leader and Coach

https://behindmlm.com/companies/bitc...s-at-it-again/

Global Information Network Review - Riccardo Ferrari

https://www.courthousenews.com/sec-s...r-4-7-million/

Holy crap, are you talking to me, and what are you talking about?? I am not trying to promote anything and I didn’t post any referral links. I don’t even know anything about MLMs. I came here with an open mind looking for information and opinions, and that is all. Yes, I read everything you said and I had already done an eBay search myself. If you think I have an ulterior motive, what do you think it is? Wow…

Also, I don't think Gregg was referring to me, as I didn't post a referral link. I think he was referring to the opportunity links in the Yoli reviews that scratchycat posted. Let's ask Gregg, to be sure...

Originally Posted by dreamstopper

Also, I don't think Gregg was referring to me, as I didn't post a referral link. I think he was referring to the opportunity links in the Yoli reviews that scratchycat posted. Let's ask Gregg, to be sure...

You asked for some discussion on this topic. Well, I started some but since I am not involved in any MLM or would never be again, there is no way it is my referral link. If you think you can make big money with any MLM, you better be ready to work 24/7 and learn to be a super salesperson. Just selling the product is not going to buy food much less pay the bills and you could probably visit your local health food store for products that would do the same as these claim they do. No, the money is made through recruiting, recruiting, etc.

If you still have questions about this company after reading the info here, then you best just go for it and find out on your own. However, remember we told you so! Their first attempt failed so now they have added more products and joined the rank as LRM put it - pseudo health related MLM among hundreds of thousands of similar MLM companies. Your massive growth statement is probably one of the raving reviews 'paid for' by companies like this. IMO

Originally Posted by dreamstopper

Also, I don't think Gregg was referring to me, as I didn't post a referral link. I think he was referring to the opportunity links in the Yoli reviews that scratchycat posted. Let's ask Gregg, to be sure...

Nope, I was talking about you.

Excuse me if I'm a bit jaded, but I've seen far too many people "just looking for information" in the first post who before long, either in the first forum or somewhere else being a pretty big ref whore, and if I only got a whiff in your first post, the following ones smelled pretty bad. One other common trait of MLM ripoffs is to have affiliates spam the internet with stories of how great the new big thing is, how much money they're made, what cool cars they drive and how hot the women who throw themselves at them are.
One other thing you'll find that the next big thing does is put up one "independent review" under hundreds of different places that are titled something like "Is this new wonderful thing a scam?" and then spend a few hundred words explaining how it's not, and look at all the money I've made, the new BMW I drive and the Super Models waiting in line to date me.....

They do this so when the prospective sucker,,oops, new recruit does a google search for the program and the word "scam" they'll get all those reviews first before they find a real independent review that tells them paying $10 a quart for juice so they can sell it for $30 a quart and recruit their own downline might not be such a surefire thing after all.

Now, go ahead and tell us how cynical I am, how I'm just jealous and don't know anything about business. I'll be disappointed if you don't.

Hi all

I found this review which may be helpful for those thinking about marketing Yoli: https://www.dietprobe.com/yoli-yes-shake-review/

Basically the cliffs are

>expensive
>lots of competition
>majority of consumers aren't willing to pay the prices
>the products themselves aren't terrible

Originally Posted by dreamstopper

Hello...I was wondering why no one discusses YOLI on this forum any more. Actually there is not much news on any other MLM forums either. It seems strange that no one has anything to say, I heard they are having massive growth and much success. Just curious why no buzz...

Hiya, dreamstopper and welcome to REALSCAM.com

As you've already realized, Yoli was extensively discussed on REALSCAM.com in THIS thread back in 2010.

At the time the discussions were mainly centered around Yolis' flagship product, the "Blast Cap" drink, which, as predicted, failed to capture anyones' imagination and became virtually irrelevant.

Yoli subsequently morphed into "just another" pseudo health related MLM among hundreds of thousands of similar MLM companies.

When you say "I heard they are having massive growth" what was your information source ???

Was it Yoli itself, a Yoli distributor or an independent source ??

Was any "massive growth" triggered by an increase in the sales of it's products or by an increase in the number of "get-rich-quick" recruiters jumping on the Yoli bandwagon ??

IM(very)HO, Yoli has failed to live up to its' (own) hype and is now just one of a squillion similar MLM "opportunities" on the 'net.

Ask yourself, what amount of Yoli "products" would YOU have to sell to make any sort of decent income ??

Forget about the recruitment, how do YOU feel about selling the product/s.

What would encourage YOU to become a customer of someone like you attempting to sell you Yoli product ???

How much would YOU expect to purchase at a time ???

How many "YOU" would a Yoli salesperson need to make a living ??

My information sources were:
MLM rankings sites based purely on public interest and internet popularity searches, and clearly showing growth in interest.
The company itself, which publicly reports 577% growth in the past 12 months, I am assuming that an increase in distributors would also result in an increase in products.
Internet and social networking sites, FB groups, publicly advertised training seminars, health and wellness clinic interest, health professional endorsements, apparent weight loss results and what seems to be general interest and satisfaction of the products used by the consumer, which is based ONLY on my research. I have no personal experience to share.
I could include the links to all this information, but I would likely be setting myself up for accusations of promoting an opportunity, so no thank you.
Maybe it’s all hype, maybe it’s a scam, I haven’t got a clue, and I am just an information seeker without an agenda.
I am a skeptic, have no personal experience with YOLI or any MLM, and have never had an interest in joining one. All other forums regarding the industry are for those who are in the industry, looking to get in the industry, or hoping to welcome you into the industry. I just came here to get another point of view and maybe learn some things that I am not aware of so that persons of interest to me do not get all caught up in the hype.
So…if anyone can provide me with useful information about the company, products or industry in general, or recommend links that lead to factual information, I welcome it. If not, I will go away as innocently, quickly and quietly as I came.

Originally Posted by dreamstopper

So…if anyone can provide me with useful information about the company, products or industry in general, or recommend links that lead to factual information, I welcome it. If not, I will go away as innocently, quickly and quietly as I came.

Dreamstopper, I will take you at your word that you are searching for a business opportunity and trying to do due diligence. And since mom says I can't come out of the basement until my attitude improves and/or I go full time at the pizza shop I happen to have a little extra time.

Right off the bat I will say that I don't think any MLM is a good business model for 95% of the people out there. On this particular deal, if i was looking at it for myself the personal liability is the biggest red flag. If you Google "Fen Fen" and "Hydroxycut " to name a few, ask yourself:
1. How would you feel if you sold something to somebody for years and then found out the product was defective?
2. If you can live with 1, what is your personal liability as an IBO?

So money aside, how comfortable are you that the product is safe, and based on what? And just to stay topical I ripped this from the headlines:

Kim Kardashian and her sisters waged a campaign of LIES when they claimed they got their rock hard bikini bodies from a diet pill called QuickTrim ... this according to a new $5 MILLION lawsuit.

Read more: Kim Kardashian & Sisters Sued for $5 Mil -- Your QuickTrim Diet Pills Are BOGUS!!!! | TMZ.com
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Now surely she is a bigger target than most (bigger lot of things than most), but if you hit it big in this business what does your risk become? And even if the suit as 0 merit, I have found attorneys want to be paid in cash, and a lot of it.

On a purely practical basis:

Why MLMs Never Release Their Financial Statements

Originally Posted by littleroundman

On a purely practical basis:

Why MLMs Never Release Their Financial Statements

Great discussion started by ALA, maybe he will return to give us more enlightenment.

Here is a red flag in my estimation:

Review- Yoli and the Better Body System for Quick and Easy Weight Loss | Scott Litle's Empower Network Blog

The pictures at the bottom are quite familiar.