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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Wolf View Post
    According to Forbes magazine, there are 403 billionaires in the United States.

    I just looked at the list, and one thing is for sure . . . Trey White is not on it.
    Awesome find my friend!

    The World's Billionaires Page 39 of 41 - Forbes.com
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    The World's Billionaires
    03.10.10, 06:00 PM EST
    Page 39 of 41

    ABEL - ALBRALBU - ARNAARNO - BASSBASS - BLACBLAN - BUFFBURD - CHAOCHAR - CONNCONW - DEICDEJO - DRUCDU S - FETIFILO - FUNGGABE - GOREGOTT - HANHAPP - HECTHEIS - HUGHHUI - JAINJAMA - KAHNKAIS - KIMMKIND - KRAVKRIS - LAURLAUR - LI KLI S - LOWYLU G - MANSMANT - MERIMHAI - MORIMORI - OBEROCH, - PEREPERE - PRITPRIT - RALERAO, - ROSSROVT - SANDSANT - SCHRSCHU - SIEBSIMM - SPANSPER - TAKITAN, - TISCTISC - VARGVEKS - WEEWEI - XIANYAMA - ZHOUZHOU - ZYUZ
    Rank Name Citizenship Age Net Worth ($bil) Residence
    937 Wei Ing-Chou Taiwan 57 1.0 China
    937 Wei Yin-Chun Taiwan 53 1.0 Taiwan
    937 Wei Yin-Heng Taiwan 51 1.0 China
    937 Wei Ying-chiao Taiwan 55 1.0 China
    488 Cher Wang & Wenchi Chen Taiwan 52 2.0 Taiwan
    93 Alain & Gerard Wertheimer France NA 7.5 NA
    258 Stef Wertheimer & family Israel 84 3.5 Israel
    100 Galen Weston & family Canada 69 7.2 Canada
    421 Leslie Wexner United States 72 2.3 United States
    582 Dean White United States 86 1.7 United States
    773 Margaret Whitman United States 53 1.3 United States
    616 John Whittaker United Kingdom 68 1.6 United Kingdom
    655 Arne Wilhelmsen & family Norway 79 1.5 Norway
    400 Oprah Winfrey United States 56 2.4 United States
    189 Karl Wlaschek Austria 92 4.4 Austria
    258 Aloys Wobben Germany 58 3.5 Germany
    880 Allan Wong & family Hong Kong NA 1.1 Hong Kong
    197 Peter Woo & family Hong Kong 64 4.3 Hong Kong
    463 William Wrigley Jr United States 46 2.1 United States
    232 Wu Yajun & family China 46 3.9 China
    132 Reinhold Wurth Germany 74 5.7 Germany
    937 Samuel Wyly United States 74 1.0 United States
    616 Stephen Wynn United States 68 1.6 United States
    121 Hansjorg Wyss Switzerland 75 6.1 United States
    937 Xian Yang China 36 1.0 China
    There is the list where White would fall alphabetically. So, I am sure ol' Trey ain't no multi-billionaire either! More fraudulent MLM claims for the FTC and Attorneys General to enjoy!

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Trey isn't on this list of the Richest Americans either. MLM solicitiations are some great fiction writing, aren't they???

    The 400 Richest Americans 2009 - Forbes.com
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    09.30.09, 06:00 PM EDT
    The Forbes 400 Richest Americans 2009

    John E. Abele - Carl Edwin BergNicolas Berggruen - S. Truett CathyJohn Catsimatidis - Bharat DesaiRichard DeVos - Gerald J. FordTheodore Forstmann - Donald HallBruce Halle - Martha IngramJames Irsay - Brad KelleyPeter R. Kellogg - Ralph LaurenNancy Walton Laurie - Bernard MarcusJ. Willard (Bill) Marriott - Manuel MorounCharles Munger - T. Boone PickensJeffry Picower - David A. RichMarc Rich - Steven SchonfeldRichard Schulze - Jerry SpeyerSteven Spielberg - Todd WagnerAlice Walton - Mortimer Zuckerman

    Rank Name Net Worth ($mil) Age Residence Source
    6 Alice Walton 19,300 60 Fort Worth Wal-Mart
    4 Christy Walton & family 21,500 54 Jackson Wal-Mart
    5 Jim C. Walton 19,600 61 Bentonville Wal-Mart
    7 S. Robson Walton 19,000 65 Bentonville Wal-Mart
    158 Roger Wang 2,000 60 Nanjing retail
    94 Ty Warner 3,200 65 Chicago Beanie Babies
    289 Kelcy Warren 1,350 53 Dallas Pipelines
    61 Dennis Washington 4,200 75 Missoula construction, mining
    147 Bruce Wasserstein 2,200 61 New York Wasserstein Perella, Lazard
    347 Charlotte Colket Weber 1,100 66 Ocala inheritance
    158 Leslie Wexner 2,000 72 New Albany Limited Brands
    202 Dean White 1,750 86 Crown Point lboards, hotels
    326 Margaret Whitman 1,200 53 Atherton Ebay
    141 Oprah Winfrey 2,300 55 Chicago television
    154 William Wrigley Jr. 2,100 45 Lake Forest chewing gum
    399 Sam Wyly 950 74 Dallas investments
    141 Steve Wynn 2,300 67 Las Vegas casinos, hotels
    317 Jerry Yang 1,250 40 Los Altos Hills Yahoo
    371 Charles Zegar 1,000 61 New York Bloomberg LP
    77 Samuel Zell 3,800 68 Chicago real estate, private equity
    65 Daniel Ziff 4,000 37 New York inheritance, hedge funds
    65 Dirk Ziff 4,000 45 New York inheritance, hedge funds
    65 Robert Ziff 4,000 43 New York inheritance, hedge funds
    158 Mark Zuckerberg 2,000 25 Palo Alto Facebook
    236 Mortimer Zuckerman 1,500 72 New York real estate, media

    John E. Abele - Carl Edwin BergNicolas Berggruen - S. Truett CathyJohn Catsimatidis - Bharat DesaiRichard DeVos - Gerald J. FordTheodore Forstmann - Donald HallBruce Halle - Martha IngramJames Irsay - Brad KelleyPeter R. Kellogg - Ralph LaurenNancy Walton Laurie - Bernard MarcusJ. Willard (Bill) Marriott - Manuel MorounCharles Munger - T. Boone PickensJeffry Picower - David A. RichMarc Rich - Steven SchonfeldRichard Schulze - Jerry SpeyerSteven Spielberg - Todd WagnerAlice Walton - Mortimer Zuckerman
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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Sometimes words fail me.

    On...



    ... is this plug for Evolv:

    Trey White Texas Billionaire Launches Evolv Health with a New Category Creator Nutraceutical Beverage


    Unless, I'm missing something here, but is there some connection between Evolv and meth?
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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Google search engine result says:
    YouTube - Robert Dean Protege "I Love My New Life!" Nicole Jackson ...Nicole Jackson (claim to fame: Multi-Million Dollar Earner in Real Estate) speaks with ... at one of the dozens of Evolv P.E.R.'s she hosts weekly in the MIchigan market! ... gifting real estate gifting rules gifting scams gifting stock ...
    YouTube - Robert Dean Protege "I Love My New Life!" Nicole Jackson Speaks - Cached


    Let's look at Nicole C. Jackson'd page:
    http://www.nicolejackson.myevolv.com...sp?co_la=US_EN
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    We have an incredible growth strategy to build Evolv into a global success. I have built billion dollar companies before—this time, we get to do it together.

    Join NowThank you,
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    I am Evolv

    "Million Reasons to Evolv" Contest EvolvHealth, LLC is a direct sales company built to market an incredible product. Give, Share, Evolv. It’s our motto, but it’s also our philosophy. We act to make a difference in our own lives, the lives of the people around us, and the world through our product, financial freedom, and a commitment to philanthropy.

    Archaea Active™ is the culmination of more than 15 years of scientific research and development. Our product, Evolv™, combines the Archaea Active™ formula with pure, high quality spring water. The formula has been found, through independent in vitro testing, to have a remarkable impact on the body, naturally enhancing cell performance, and increasing stamina, energy and endurance.

    Executive Team
    The foundation of success will always come through the core people who are driving the company. That’s why EvolvHealth founder, Trey White, says he first invests in people and then invests in products and technologies. Passion, integrity, honesty and a willingness to make it happen are the essential traits Trey identified and valued in each person that he hand-picked to be a member of EvolvHealth’s elite, executive team.

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    Gene Kaiser, the founder of the Archaea Active™ technology, believed the formula he invented to be his gift to the world. Our goal is to preserve his wishes and his legacy.


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    What can the Evolv Product do for you? Listen to some of members and their stories about their experience with the Evolv product. The Evolv product looks like water, smells like water but it is NOT just water. The scientifically researched Archaea Active solution makes this a one of a kind product. As VP of Sales, Dr Anne Bodak Smith says "Change the label, improve the outcome".

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    Our ProductWith over 15 years of scientific research and development behind its proprietary Archaea Active™ formula, Evolv water supports measurable and beneficial changes relating to the absorption of oxygen at the cellular level, and the promotion of a healthy anti-inflammatory response in the body.

    Archaea Active™ is the name given to the proprietary, all-natural formula and its associated complex and involved manufacturing process as developed by Health2o Products, LLC. The formula’s developers believe Archaea Active™ initiates the production of cell signaling molecules. These molecules, present in the Evolv water at the picomolar level, stimulate other cells to communicate and respond.

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    Those of you who attended the 2010 Summit will recognize John Hunter, VP and General Manager of FutureCeuticals, Inc., our product research and development partner currently researching multiple facets of the ArchaeaActive solution.

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    Natural, purified spring water
    The water "base" of Evolv is bottled at the source in a remote section of Arkansas, at the edge of a national forest and far from any population center or agriculture. Even without the Archaea Active™ ingredients, we think you'll find it to be among the best tasting water you've ever experienced.

    Alfalfa
    Extracts of Alfalfa Leaves and Stems – Alfalfa is high in antioxidant and phyto-nutrient content. It may also support increased breast milk and reduce the normal symptomology of pre-menstrual syndrome. Alfalfa grass is a known phyto-estrogen, compound produced by plants that act like the hormones in the human body.

    Milk Whey
    Whey is an excellent source of protein, vitamins, minerals, and lactose. It is the base of many protein drinks to build or repair muscle tissues. Whey is an important supplement for those who have limited mobility in the limbs, as it contributes to the prevention of atrophy of muscular cells.

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    More information on the ingredients listed above »
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    "Upon my first sip I felt the oxygen going through my body. All that day it was like I was in overdrive. I usually am kind of ho-hum and laid back kind of dragging. I took one bottle and that day a friend of mine (over the phone) said, 'Boy it sounds like you are in a good mood, what's up?' 'Nothing, it must be in the new water', it has me feeling so good more upbeat, I enjoyed that."

    — Ivy, TX

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    1.A favorable or advantageous circumstance or combination of circumstances.2.A chance for progress or advancement.
    "The word opportunity is probably one of the most overused and underappreciated words in the English language. I have heard people minimize the importance of this word. I truly believe that every Visionary on this planet has learned to love this word. Every success starts with the opportunity. Add hard work, desire and Passion and you have the perfect mix to turn that 'opportunity' into an incredible success story. I saw an opportunity when I was introduced to ArchaeaActive. If you see what I see, I suggest you join us as an Evolv Member or as a customer to Evolv your Health as I have. Either way, I promise you will be happy you acted on this opportunity."
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    How many Nicole Jacksons are realtors in Michigan?

    State of Michigan says:
    Name DBA Name License Type License Nbr Address Status Enforcement
    Action
    JACKSON, NICOLE A Real Estate Associate Broker 6502338433 Harper Woods, MI 48225 Active None
    JACKSON, NICOLE A Real Estate Broker Individual 6504287589 Harper Woods, MI 48225 Active None
    JACKSON, NICOLE A Real Estate Salesperson 6501287589 Harper Woods, MI 48225 Null And Void None
    JACKSON, NICOLE CHARYSE Real Estate Associate Broker 6502342044 Detroit, MI 48207 Lapsed None
    JACKSON, NICOLE CHARYSE Real Estate Broker Individual 6504258581 Farmington Hills, MI 48334 Lapsed None
    JACKSON, NICOLE CHARYSE Real Estate Salesperson 6501258581 Detroit, MI 48207 Null And Void None
    Well, there are two. The Nicole Charyse Jackson must be the Evolv rep who is making those ridiculous videos claiming:
    Partnered with a Multi-Billionaire.

    Potentially Millions of Dollars Weekly

    Multi-Million Dollar Earner in Real Estate
    Try Googling her as a realtor in Michigan. Her license is lapsed and she has very cleverly removed any evidence of her success from the internet!

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Here is the real estate agency Nicole Jackson owned and presumably was the agency where she made the multi-millions she claimed to have made in real estate:
    Searched for: ADVANTECH REALTY GROUP

    ID Num: B1547E
    Assumed Names


    Name:ADVANTECH SOLUTIONS, LLC

    Type: Domestic Limited Liability Company
    Resident Agent: NICOLE JACKSON

    Registered Office Address: 24236 CONGRESS NOVI MI 48075
    Mailing/Office Address: 30095 NORTHWESTERN HWY #105 FARMINGTON HILLS MI 48334

    Formation/Qualification Date:5-24-2002

    Jurisdiction of Origin:MICHIGAN

    Managed by: Members

    Status: ACTIVE, BUT NOT IN GOOD STANDING AS OF 2-17-2009 Date: Present
    Now, she is claiming all sorts of things with Evolv as evidenced by her youtube profile:
    NicoleJacksonSpeaks Subscribe Edit subscription
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    Channel Views:46Total Upload Views:0Age:35Joined:December 24, 2009Last Visit Date:1 month agoSubscribers:2Website:http://www.TheEvolutionWillBeLive.comAbout Me: Wow! Who knew that helping people earn unlimited income while promoting a healthy lifestyle could be so fun and stress-free! Evolv Health ~ markets archaea active and uses Mt. Ida Spring Water as the brilliant vehicle for the consumable enhanced water beverage company. Ground floor and Growing 450% according to MLM.com. Backed by multi-billionaire Trey White. Attracting network marketers, celebrities, professional athletes, superstar entertainers, top surgeons and seasoned professionals. Our TOPGUN team split $125 million dollars and created 23 millionaires and we're using this brilliant opportunity as our vehicle to earn millions, again! If I have piqued your interest...call or email me: EvolvLife@aol.com 313-629-6186 Country:United States
    Let's see some documentation!

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Dallas-Based Multi-Level Marketing Company Is in Hot Water With UT Board of Regents - Dallas News - Unfair Park
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    Dallas-Based Multi-Level Marketing Company Is in Hot Water With UT Board of RegentsBy Robert Wilonsky, Thu., Nov. 19 2009 @ 8:36AM Comments (7) Categories: Crime
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    ​Back in January, a Dallas-based company that sells bottled water -- pardon, a "natural spring water ... created from all natural ingredients including extracts of alfalfa stems and leaves, milk whey and enzymes from pineapple and papaya" -- asked the University of Texas's M.D. Anderson Cancer Center if it wouldn't mind testing its magic potion. M.D. Anderson said sure ... for a price. Which is how Noel Road-based Evolv got M.D. Anderson to test the anti-inflammatory effects of its water -- specifically, the so-called "Archaea Active ingredients" that Evolv claims separate its water from, oh, regular water. Everyone agrees on that: Evolv (which is also known as HealtH20 or EvolvHealth), paid M.D. Anderson to test its some of its water, which, according to the hospital, ain't nothing but Houston tap water with some stuff in it.

    What happened next, though, is what leads us to this federal lawsuit filed in Houston this week.

    M.D. Anderson did its testing -- all very "preliminary" stuff, says the suit, and the cancer center never checked its "safety, efficacy, medicinal or beneficial health value." But Evolv -- which is a self-proclaimed "multi-level marketing company" that has the recruiting videos to prove it -- started running on its Web site statements like, "The Archaea Active formula has undergone in-vitro testing by The University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center out of Houston." Which, as far as M.D. Anderson is concerned, gives people the impression that the cancer center has endorsed the product. And so, at 11:31 a.m. on September 9, its communications director posted a blog item that said, "There seems to be buzz on the Internet about a type of water that a Dallas-based company is marketing and this water's relationship to M. D. Anderson. So we thought we'd un-muddy the water for our patients, employees and supporters. M. D. Anderson doesn't recommend the water."

    Two hours later, Evolv's chief marketing officer, Jonathan Gilliam, posted his response to M.D. Anderson's attempt at distancing from the bottled water: "MD Anderson and its employees do not endorse Evolv as they are precluded from endorsing any product using the MD Anderson name. Our test results are just that, and are not an endorsement or backing of M.D. Anderson. The Evolv management feels extremely blessed and fortunate that an institution the caliber of M.D. Anderson has tested our product."

    But after that, Evolv didn't stop touting the fact its water was merely tested by M.D. Anderson -- even though it paid for the testing and even though, according to M.D. Anderson's spokeperson, "no efficacy or toxicity data were generated at M. D. Anderson nor was the product tested on humans." Far as the UT Board of Regents is concerned, Evolv's doing nothing more than using M.D. Anderson's name and rep to build a "pyramid," which is why it's taking Evolv to court for trademark violation and trademark dilution and damages.
    The Dallas Observer and sister publication The Houston Press are fabulous. Their articles about scammy businesses are incredibly hilarious and very informative. How could anyone sign up for this deal after reading that???

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    Someone must have sent a threatening lawyer letter (real or fake makes no difference). Zachary / George caves to any silly threat he gets. So, now no one can post over there on Scam about Evolv. What kind of company or individual rep would be so desperate to hide the truth. Good thing realscam.com is here to continue to warn and inform the public as Scam is completely out of the scambusting business!

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    You notice that, that is why 99% of MLMs (who claim to be making billions) never have publically traded stocks because they have to file financials that are open and available for the public to read and analyse. That was the beginning of the downfall of YTB when they did this. The vast majority of them just continue to lie their asses off about everything having to do with their operations, the number of reps, what the reps are making, how the money is made, how many make no money etc. It's just one wild claim after the next and never any real proof of anything. Yet people believe this crap. Amazing.

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    The vast majority of them just continue to lie their asses off about everything having to do with their operations, the number of reps, what the reps are making, how the money is made, how many make no money etc. It's just one wild claim after the next and never any real proof of anything. Yet people believe this crap. Amazing.
    From as far back as I can remember, it was drilled into my head, "If it sounds too good to be true, it is." There are the gullible and then there are the stupid. Then there are the gullible and stupid. Those are what the MLMs go after. And it works too.

    Ask them to back up their statements and claims in a MLM recruitment meeting. They cannot and they will not. Sort of like Iamwil can't and won't back up that his business is worth over 50K. That's because it isn't. And that list goes on with all of them. What amazes me the most is that the amount of brainwashing involved. Absolute stupidity.

    Can Roscoe "Trey" White prove he's a billionaire? Of course not because he isn't. Does anyone stop him from making these claims? Does anyone stop the recruiters in Evolv from making their claims? Nope. So the lies continue and the profits at the top continue. The little morons below get screwed. And they deserve it.
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    Ask them to back up their statements and claims in a MLM recruitment meeting. They cannot and they will not.
    Well, not exactly. Most of the time they claim it's "illegal" for them to release that kind of info. Skirting the issue that it's only illegal if they can't back it up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unsaved Trash View Post
    From as far back as I can remember, it was drilled into my head, "If it sounds too good to be true, it is." There are the gullible and then there are the stupid. Then there are the gullible and stupid. Those are what the MLMs go after. And it works too.

    Ask them to back up their statements and claims in a MLM recruitment meeting. They cannot and they will not. Sort of like Iamwil can't and won't back up that his business is worth over 50K. That's because it isn't. And that list goes on with all of them. What amazes me the most is that the amount of brainwashing involved. Absolute stupidity.

    Can Roscoe "Trey" White prove he's a billionaire? Of course not because he isn't. Does anyone stop him from making these claims? Does anyone stop the recruiters in Evolv from making their claims? Nope. So the lies continue and the profits at the top continue. The little morons below get screwed. And they deserve it.
    How is it possible that they are still in business?! I'm baffled to see this crap being push in Mexico and Puerto Rico!!!

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Let's take a look at Trey White's companies. He is said by Evolvers to be a multi-billionaire.

    Hoovers says:
    Marlin Atlantis White Ltd Dallas, TX, United States $1.20M in sales
    White Ventures, Ltd. Dallas, TX, United States $2.60M in sales
    To that list we can add White Energy

    Trey White, aka Fred White III, aka Roscoe F. White III is not Warren Buffett or Donald Trump.

    He was responsible for the homestore.com, which was a very successful company during the dot com bubble and then faced with a nose dive in the stock prices. Trey / Roscoe bailed out right before the dung hit the fan. There were several class action lawsuits and dishonest financial statements associated with that fiasco.

    Since then, he’s run a number of different companies out of one office which must have one very confused receptionist to be sure.

    Looking at the estimated annual sales for these companies as listed by Hoovers there isn't a snowball's chance in hell this clown Trey White is a billionaire, much less a multi-billionaire.

    Those companies have employees to pay, rent, taxes, company insurance, business supplies, electric, phone, marketing, wining and dining clients and much more. After all that his companies can't be generating him much profit with those paltry sales figures.

    And yet the tales of him being a multi-billioinaire persist. I am shocked Trey would continue this ridiculous scam with MD Anderson suing. It looks like lemmings over the cliff to me!

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    http://www.marlinatlantis.com/co_pro...TreyWhite.html
    Trey White
    Chairman, Marlin Atlantis White

    In his role as Chairman of Marlin Atlantis White, Mr. White guides the control and management of the companies’ interests in real property and real estate development. In addition to real estate investing, his philosophy is defined by investing in forward-thinking solutions with an eye toward technology and first to market advantages.
    He was born a third-generation entrepreneur in Dallas. Understanding that being first to market is a huge advantage, he directed energy toward achievements that positioned him ahead of competitors in emerging markets. To date, he has placed capital of more than $1.5B into companies he founded or co-founded.

    Mr. White co-founded NewHomeSearch, a revolutionary electronic real estate listing service for Realtors® and new home builders, gained 100% penetration in the Dallas market within two years of inception and grew to ten markets with an innovative client-server-based application, NewHomeSearch, renamed HomeBuilder.com in 1996, created the first Internet portal for searching real estate listings, quickly expanded to seventy-five markets and became the official Web site of the National Association of Homebuilders. Mr. White oversaw the merger of HomeBuilder.com with Realtor.com and participated in taking the two companies public as HomeStore.com, raised $800M in two offerings, drove stock to $160 per share and resulted in an $11B market cap at its peak.

    In 2002 Mr. White began investing in multi-phased, single-family, residential developments and, in 2003, provided the start-up capital to form Marlin Atlantis. This new entity, under the direction of an outstanding management team, took advantage of low interest rates and strong residential housing markets in Texas. To date, Marlin Atlantis has entitled and/or developed eighteen residential communities, including five master-planned developments in major Texas markets. The enterprise has deployed more than $200M in capital and is one of the largest residential community developers in Texas, with more than 20,000 single family lots in inventory.

    Also in 2003, Mr. White founded White Energy, a company funded to take advantage of the high cost of oil, reduce dependence on foreign oil, and reduce carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels by building destination, fuel-grade, ethanol plants. In 2005, White Energy received its air permit to build in Texas, the first new facility created a destination plant trend that continues today in Texas, California, New York, Colorado, Kansas and Florida. White Energy produces 250M gallons of ethanol in three facilities, is the fifth-largest US producer and the largest Texas producer of fuel grade ethanol. To date, White Energy has deployed over $500M into renewable energy investments.

    Mr. White has created and pioneered markets using a best-of-breed management team methodology as he leads several organizations, charitable as well as for-profit, against which other companies and efforts are measured. His mental and physical cornerstones for success include surrounding himself with smart, experienced, respected individuals at the top of their industries. He and his associates possess the ability to take measured risks, cultivate instincts for emerging markets, and demonstrate the acute market-awareness necessary for properly timed exits. He considers these aspects of business acumen “simple rules for a complex world, instrumental in stacking odds toward the probability of success.”

    Home | Our Company | Communities | Offerings | Contact Us | PRIVACY | DISCLAIMER | Web Sitemap
    ©2006 - 2009 Marlin Atlantis. All Rights Reserved. | Website Created by: DeWitt Marketing & TNT Media Productions, Ltd.
    Can Homestore restore its tarnished image and rebuild? - Free Online Library

    The article tells of the accounting scandal in 2001. Trey / Roscoe White talks of going into residential development in 2002. So, it appears he was bailing from homestore.com just as the dung hit the fan.

    Homestore.com Class Action Settlement - Current Developments
    12/19/03: NOTICE OF OBJECTIONS filed by The Roscoe F. White Jr
    I notice he fails to mention that White Energy imploded into bankruptcy despite claims that he is a multi-billionaire.

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    Trey White is brazenly standing next to a rep that proudly proclaims that Trey is a multi-billionaire. I suggest every Evolv rep demand proof of that claim. Forbes and the reputable business magazines out there sure aren't aware of that fact.

    Remember this:
    The FTC also says:
    Your Responsibilities
    If you decide to become a distributor, you are legally responsible for the claims you make about the company, its product and the business opportunities it offers. That applies even if you're repeating claims you read in a company brochure or advertising flyer. The Federal Trade Commission advises you to verify the research behind any claims about a product's performance before repeating those claims to a potential customer.

    In addition, if you solicit new distributors, you are responsible for the claims you make about a distributor's earnings potential. Be sure to represent the opportunity honestly and avoid making unrealistic promises. If those promises fall through, remember that you could be held liable.



    Now, Trey better not remove those. MD Anderson's attorneys and the cheerful judge are watching!

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    I have a question.....White Ventures

    estimated annual sales (not profit, sales) of $2.5M, which would require 400 years to become $1B
    White Ventures, Ltd | Banking & Finance > Banking, Lending & Credit Services from AllBusiness.com


    estimated annual revenue less than half of white ventures, $1.1M, or 910 years to hit $1B
    Marlin Atlantis White Ltd - Dallas, Texas (TX) | Company Profile

    Also, employee estimates:

    25 for white ventures; 12 for marlin atlantis white

    What am I missing????

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    Let's see here.....just thinking out loud......and doing some reading on the web......

    They may be able to add oxygen to the water, but there’s still a natural limit to which the body will absorb oxygen. Especially of the source comes through the digestive system as opposed to the cardiovascular system. you don’t absorb oxygen into your system via your digestive tract. So unless people are inhaling this, how will it "work"?

    Also, If they’re so rich, why do they still need to use this kind of distribution?
    Why not set up big campaigns?
    Why would they want to share their profit with you?
    This seriously makes no sense.

    I also found this about the use of oxygenating additives to food on the MD Anderson site. It’s about they have determined that it doesn’t work! From their site:

    Oxidative enzymes in foods

    Gerson proposed that tumor cells thrive in an environment depleted of oxygen, but can be destroyed when oxidative reactions occur that are catalyzed by oxidative enzymes. Accordingly, he promoted the concentrated intake of intact oxidative enzymes from fresh fruits and vegetable juices obtained through special (non centrifugal) juicers.

    Green critiqued this theory of oxidative damage and cited a 1961 review that provided several lines of evidence that oxygen neither prevented nor inhibited cancer growth. He then noted subsequent research concerning damage to DNA as the culprit in the initiation, promotion and progression of cancer. He also doubted that oxidative enzymes within foods could have any effect on non-digestive tissues since they would normally be broken down into their component amino acids during digestion and not pass intact through the intestinal wall. Otherwise, he asserted, they would be likely to provoke an allergic response from the host.

    In response, Gar Hildenbrand and Peter Lechner of the Gerson Research Organization said that they had already publicly acknowledged that the oxygen theory was out-of-date. They also disagreed with the statement that intact proteins would necessarily provoke immune responses if they passed through the intestinal wall.

    CIMER - Gerson Detailed Scientific Review - MD Anderson Cancer Center

    The article states that Oxygen neither prevented nor inhibited cancer growth.

    what about a patent for this "water"? Hmmmm....I guess it's hard to get a patent on plain water.

    So let's see if I have this Trey guy down....

    It cures cancer! No.
    MD Anderson developed it! No.
    It is patented! No.
    Trey owns a theme park! No.
    Trey is proven to be a billionaire! No.
    Was developed at MD Anderson! No.

    I kinda liked this claim though:

    “WATER is a beverage that combines our proprietary WATER formula with natural spring WATER to deliver the health benefits of hydration with increased stamina, energy and endurance."

    I know if I don’t drink water I usually feel dehydrated and eventually pretty tired. lmao

    Then of course as mentioned above:

    “‘Evolv’ Water Is Snake Oil, Cancer Center Says
    By CAMERON LANGFORD

    “HOUSTON (CN) – Two companies are pushing bottled tap water with false claims that it’s endorsed by the MD Anderson Cancer Center, the University of Texas says in Federal Court. The UT says HealtH20 Products and Evolvehealth sell the bogus water it as “Evolv,” claiming it is infused with an “Archaea Active formula.”

    “The Dallas-based companies falsely claim that the Anderson Center tested the water and endorsed it, the UT says. The MD Anderson Center is a leading cancer research institution. …

    “The University of Texas wants an injunction, costs, and damages for trademark violations. It is represented by John Rawls with Bracewell and Giuliani.”

    Courthouse News Service

    Have I missed anything???

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Life Aloft
    What am I missing????
    It's an MLM, which immediately cancels out any previous objections.

    MLM = Automatically good
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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Caprock Dev, LLC Business Relationships

    White Ventures Energy, LLC Business Relationships


    It is high time we check out multi-billionaire Roscoe Frederick (Trey White) and see just where these alleged multi-billions of dollars of which Forbes has no knowledge came from.

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    Evolv With Mika

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    Doc.....what is with the "cartoon" and the homophobic slurs????? Where did this come from?

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Searching the names in those relationship charts linked above shows most of the LLCs listed don't even exist as viable businesses. They may be registered in Texas or Delaware, but searching Company Profiles & Company Information on Manta results in no hits. That suggest they are not active and generating any significant revenue. So, the question remains as to where the billions of dollars in Trey's name that qualify him and his reps to classify him as a multi-billionaire came from.

    No doubt the FTC, SEC, Texas Attorney General's office and many other agencies will be responding to the many reports I and others have made. I am sure they will be able to pinpoint where these billions came from!

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    Don't you just love the bit about being "trademarked" being touted all over the 'net as making "Archaea Active solution" something special.

    Obviously the members of the Evolv MLM squad have never bothered to ask themselves what having a "trademark" actually means.

    Here's the Australian definition

    What is a Trade Mark? A trade mark can be a word, phrase, letter, number, sound, smell, shape, logo, picture, aspect of packaging or a combination of these. A trade mark can also protect your brand name.


    It is used to distinguish the goods and services of one trader from those of another.


    A registered trade mark gives you the legal right to use, license or sell it within Australia for the goods and services for which it is registered.
    The difference between trade marks, business, company and domain names sometimes causes confusion. Registration of a business, company or domain name does not in itself give you any proprietary rights - only a trade mark can give you that kind of protection.
    IP Australia : Trade Marks > What is a trade mark?

    There you have it.

    Doesn't have a bloody thing to do with the product itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Don't you just love the bit about being "trademarked" being touted all over the 'net as making "Archaea Active solution" something special.

    Obviously the members of the Evolv MLM squad have never bothered to ask themselves what having a "trademark" actually means.

    Here's the Australian definition

    IP Australia : Trade Marks > What is a trade mark?

    There you have it.

    Doesn't have a bloody thing to do with the product itself.
    This is much the same here, LTM and an excellent point. Here is the definition in the US:

    A trademark includes any word, name, symbol, or device, or any combination, used, or intended to be used, in commerce to identify and distinguish the goods of one manufacturer or seller from goods manufactured or sold by others, and to indicate the source of the goods. In short, a trademark is a brand name. That's it.

    I can still find no Patent for this product either. Hmmmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Life Aloft View Post
    I can still find no Patent for this product either. Hmmmmmmm
    And if you COULD find a patent for "Archaea Active solution" then what ???

    Holding a "patent" only means no one else can produce and/or market "Archaea Active solution"

    It does NOT mean "Archaea Active solution" does what Evolv claims it does.

    It does NOT mean the US Government has tested the product.

    Here is a product holding a US patent:



    So,

    now Evolv has 2 problems:

    1) No one can find the relevant patent

    2) Even IF there is a patent, so-bloody-what ??

    Who on earth would want to steal the idea anyway, other than another bunch of fraudsters ???
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    Who is Roscoe F. White? He is listed as an "officer" and tied to many of the "businesses" names on one of your links, Mom. Is he a relative?

    Roscoe F White - Profile on CorporationWiki.com

    I have never sen so many LLC's taken out in my life, by the same entities and many (not all) of them lead to nowhere. lol (inactive)

    Deborah A Thomas.....same question...she is listed at the same address as Roscoe and ties to the same conpanies.

    What is this lawsuit about? Security Pacific Credit Corp v. White Ventures Energy, LLC et al :: Justia Dockets & Filings

    The only reason I can see having so many LLCs and not Corporations is because of taxes, and shuffling of monies and tax write offs on "business" which are not really businesses and the liability is much smaller than with a legit Corporation. Something really strange about all of this. Funny there are no Corporations in all of this convoluted mess, just dozens and dozens of LLCs. For a quick breakdown of the difference between an LLC and a Corporation:


    LLC owners report business income and losses on their personal tax returns.

    An LLC is not a separate tax entity like a corporation; instead, it is what the IRS calls a "pass-through entity," like a partnership or sole proprietorship. All of the profits and losses of the LLC "pass through" the business to the LLC owners (called members), who report this information on their personal tax returns. The LLC itself does not pay federal income taxes, but some states impose an annual tax on LLCs.
    Income Taxes

    The IRS treats your LLC like a sole proprietorship or a partnership, depending on the number of members in your LLC. If you've already done business as a sole proprietorship or partnership, you're ahead of the game because you know many of the rules already. If not, here are the basics:
    Single-Owner LLCs

    The IRS treats one-member LLCs as sole proprietorships for tax purposes. This means that the LLC itself does not pay taxes and does not have to file a return with the IRS.

    As the sole owner of your LLC, you must report all profits (or losses) of the LLC on Schedule C and submit it with your 1040 tax return. Even if you leave profits in the company's bank account at the end of the year -- for instance, to cover future expenses or expand the business -- you must pay income tax on that money.
    Multi-Owner LLCs

    The IRS treats co-owned LLCs as partnerships for tax purposes. Like one-member LLCs, co-owned LLCs do not pay taxes on business income; instead, the LLC owners each pay taxes on their lawful share of the profits on their personal income tax returns (with Schedule E attached). Each LLC member's share of profits and losses, called a distributive share, should be set out in the LLC operating agreement.

    Plus an LLC, unlike a Corporation allows you to limite your liability and cover your ass. Hmmmmm

    A Limited Liability Company (LLC) is a business structure allowed by state statute. LLCs are popular because, similar to a corporation, owners have limited personal liability for the debts and actions of the LLC. Other features of LLCs are more like a partnership, providing management flexibility and the benefit of pass-through taxation.

    Owners of an LLC are called members. Since most states do not restrict ownership, members may include individuals, corporations, other LLCs and foreign entities. There is no maximum number of members. Most states also permit “single member” LLCs, those having only one owner.

    A few types of businesses generally cannot be LLCs, such as banks and insurance companies. Check your state’s requirements and the federal tax regulations for further information. There are special rules for foreign LLCs.

    The federal government does not recognize an LLC as a classification for federal tax purposes. An LLC business entity must file as a corporation, partnership or sole proprietorship tax return.



    Where's Wserra??? lol
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