Thread: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

Mike inspired me to create my own blackboard comparing "apples to apples".

Since the Evolvers I follow are not college educated, I will compare to someone just out of high school, who chooses a traditional job.

18 year old seeking entry level position in sales/marketing/manufacturing should be able to start at $30,000. I understand this will be the first bone of contention with my critics, but my 18 year old has half a brain, and is going to make a small effort to find this entry level job, before giving up, and blaming the economy.

The 30K job comes with 10,000 in health benefits (dental, medical) and a small retirement package ($5,000K matching/year)
The Evolver starts negative $499.00 plus whatever tools and training seminars he pays for.

My 18 year old is going to spend less than what he makes. His take home per month is $1,800, but he is also going to get $500.00 per month from his family to help with the car payment and insurance. Remember, we are comparing apples to apples. With the exception of Mike, the others I follow get help. (Keith-Lives at home with mom, Shana-husband has a job, Wart guy-gets help from girlfriend)

After 1 month, my 18 year old has 0$ in the bank, but has clean teeth.
After 1 month, the Evolver is negative $1,000.

After 2 months, my 18 year old still has $0, but has moved into his own place, has clean teeth, and has self-respect
After 2 months, the Evolver has convinced his mom and best friend to join. This has slowed the financial bleeding, but he has to pay for a trip to Tulsa, to learn how to sell water to family and friends. He is negative $1,300, and his mom is upset.

After 1 year, my 19 year old no longer needs his parent's $500 stipend. He received a 3.5% merit increase at work, and has a year of experience under his belt. He has $10,000 in the bank thanks to the retirement program at work, and he is putting away an additional $100/month in savings.
After 1 year, the Evolver has managed to build up a team of 20 underneath him. As long as they remain on autoship, he is bringing in $3,000 per month. BUT, he has marketing tools, challenge parties and seminars to attend, so after expenses, taxes, and a trip to the dentist, he has about $2,000. No retirement plan, and no savings. Worse yet, he has taken a year off from being in the workplace, and lost that valuable experience.

I could go on, but it is all a bunch of ifs and probably from here on out. Good luck with whichever path you choose.

UB

A plea from Founder, Trey White:

FOUR: Extend for TRIP Point Tracker….. If you reached STAR by Dec 31st, it has been extended. If you were 1,2,FREE qualified in December, it has been extended… if you are not either of those, all you need is 160 PV to extend your trip points all the way to Feb 17! So check your current PV and if it’s not at 160, make sure you get there by placing a personal order or customer order.

Translation: If you want to make an extra $150, just spend $160.

My favorite ex-evolver, Keith is back with this quote:

"If you do what I tell you to do, over the next 30 days. This plan will make more money than you have ever made in your WHOLE network marketing career"! -My mentor

Keith, you post this tripe in an effort to recruit, right? Well, most of us think you haven't made a dollar in your WHOLE network marketing career.

Is this recruiting strategy working for you?

Bounce me back, Bra.

UB

Originally Posted by Undercover Brother

A plea from Founder, Trey White:

FOUR: Extend for TRIP Point Tracker….. If you reached STAR by Dec 31st, it has been extended. If you were 1,2,FREE qualified in December, it has been extended… if you are not either of those, all you need is 160 PV to extend your trip points all the way to Feb 17! So check your current PV and if it’s not at 160, make sure you get there by placing a personal order or customer order.

Translation: If you want to make an extra $150, just spend $160.

Trey White the multi-billionaire extraordinaire is sounding just a wee bit desperate here. He can't keep the marks in Evolv and his Earthquest Amusement park planned near Houston has completely stalled and no one is discussing it. The multi-billionaire can't seem to fund Earthquest or get investors.

Evolv's corporate / main site has very little traffic. This certainly explains Trey's desperation:

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Here are my posts from over yonder. The related posts on Scam got removed.

Re: Evolv, Devolv

by soapboxmom » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:04 am
We have more math challenged MLMers in Dallas pushing this thing who won't join my homeschool math classes despite repeated invitations:

http://www.evolvlegacy.com/ms/view

http://evolvlegacy.com/ms/view?page=our_industry

http://evolvlegacy.com/ms/view?page=about_me

Contact Me Contact Information
•Charles Peterson
•Email Me!•972-
•My Personal Website
My Networks
•Facebook
Thank you for visiting my page!

Brought to you by: Charles Peterson

Like so many people, I grew tired of worrying how the bills would get paid every month.
I grew tired of working a job I didn't really enjoy, and that I knew would never create the life I wanted and deserved.
But there was nothing worse than going to bed every night with the feeling that what I was reaching for, felt so far away.
So I decided to do something about it.
Believe it or not, the decision alone did wonders for me. It gave me a feeling of control and hope that I never felt working for somebody else!
And now I know why.
Working from home has been an absolute blessing.
It's taught me how to work smarter, rather than work harder. It's helping me make more money, and at the same time create more time to enjoy it. It provides me with an opportunity to meet people just like me, and help them create the life and lifestyle they dream about.
If you're friendly and have a goal in mind, I'd love to work with you. In fact, there's a team of people behind me that devote every day of their lives to helping good people succeed with this incredible opportunity.
Whether you have a lot of experience or none at all… a lot of time to invest or just a little… it's all good! Our company, our team, and our proven system work with what you've got - and help you bring about the results you're looking for.
If you have any questions, contact me!
If you have any concerns, let me know!
If you're ready to go, I'm right there with you!
I'm also living proof that this business really can change your life!......

Are you tired of making someone else rich?
Do you wish you had more time, flexibility, and freedom to do the things you enjoy?
Would a 6-figure residual income change your life?

Whether you realize it or not, certain “trends” are taking shape, right now, that are changing the face of business forever. In fact, over 40 million Americans now work from home and that number is expected to grow by 20% per year!
Are you one of them? Do you someday hope to be?
Well, take note. Because what you’re about to discover is one of the most exciting and financially rewarding opportunities to develop in a very long time…
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Where do I start with Mr. Scammer. If the number of Americans working from home grew by 20% a year let's see what would happen.

40,000,000
48,000,000
57,600,000
69,120,000
82,944,000
99,532,800
119,439,360
143,327,232
171,992,578
206,391,114
247,669,337
297,203,204
356,643,845

20% increase a year quickly surpasses the U.S. population of around 310,000,000.

How many reps are making a six figure income? How many actual retail customers does Evolv boast? What proven system? Where is the Income Disclosure? Check out the laughable one from Ignite, which is also based in Dallas and had tremendous scrutiny from the AG's office. That scrutiny forced them to publish that disclosure. Ignite has barely 2 customers average per rep and shows a massive failure rate. The failure rate is much greater than the 98% shown as the many associates who didn't qualify and lost their butts are morphed out of the table.

What kind of further studies is Evolv going to do on water that has basically nothing in it? Are the subjects going to be asked to drink a case a day so there will be at least a measurable amount of protein, a vitamin or a mineral or an enzyme -- a measurable amount of anything at all for the testing???

Will Charles honestly disclose to recruits what he is actually earning in this "incredible opportunity" There are many serial scammers pushing this silly water. Has Charles been jumping and dumping his way through numerous opportunities in record time like his Christian mentor business partners??? Has he checked his business partners out carefully? He may be mentored straight into financial disaster and bankruptcy like so many others that have been victimized by this industry. He could be the one leading many others down this path to disaster and putting himself in danger of costly litigation.

This is the MLM life of luxury he is experiencing in his apartment near scammer central in Dallas:


Quote:
floorplans and pricing

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Plan Beds Bath Sq.Ft. Rate
A1A 1 1 600 $450
A1 1 1 600 $450
A2 1 1 735 $599
B1 1 1 874 $575
B1A 1 1 874 $575
B2 2 2 1000 $659
B2A 2 2 1000 $659




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Re: Evolv, Devolv

by soapboxmom » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:15 am
Charles Peterson, Evolv rep, had more words of wisdom for us:

"Most guys are whimp's, pussy's, and coward's so they should get a job" -
Robert Kiyosaki

These brainless MLMers should check out Kiyosaki before kissing his butt. John T. Reed's analysis of Robert T. Kiyosaki's book Rich Dad, Poor Dad

Soapboxmom

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    Chuck Peterson These are truly exciting times!April 16, 2010 at 11:33pm
    
    Some of my best friends chillin with Billionaire Trey White!
    
    April 16, 2010
  
  

And, surprise, but I believe he was recruited by Jack Weinzierl or at least in his downline. He was hanging out online with that Chrisytian Millionaire Mentor / chapter 7 bankruptcy pauper (depends on which day you ask). He has also long since jumped ship. There you have proof of what a wonderful mentor Weinzierl is. He sure brainwashed this one well. Now, that Weinzierl is the Marketing Manager for Boardwalk Auto Group and has a Just Over Broke, Charles here probably thinks Jack is a wimp, pussy and coward. I remember how Jack used to rant against working a job and ramble on about being you being your own boss and having financial and time freedom. I will dig up those quotes for Boardwalk Auto. That should be very enlightening!

Soapboxmom

Evolv is promoting it's latest "win a free trip to Mexico" opportunity. The winners appear to be Larry, Cameron, Kenn, Cathy, and the same people who "win" all the trips and awards.

I wonder if Shanna and Larry's new best friend Spencer get tired of paying for these excursions?

UB

This is ex-evolver; The Wart-Guy. (at one time he was claiming Evolv cured his family's wart problem)

My Life Story: Matthew Jamieson, Age 37--From MLM Failure to Success. 1993-Present - YouTube

Is this a recruitment video or self-therapy?

Fake multi-billionaire Trey White and John Marlin bankrupted the EarthQuest project. The scum are out!!!!

EarthQuest dino-park lands in bankruptcy
Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Cynthia Calvert
Whitestone Houston Land Ltd. (“Whitestone”), an entity that owns approximately 1,564 acres near New Caney, a portion of which includes the planned EarthQuest theme park and museum, has filed for bankruptcy.

The EarthQuest theme park and museum has been promoted for years as a soon-to-come entertainment center with retail shopping, a water park, hotels, an eco-tourism area, and a residential development, along with a dinosaur area. The project grew from $50 to $500 million+ with numerous delays in breaking ground. To date, no construction has occurred.

According to trollerbk.com, Whitestone filed a Chapter 11 petition (re-organization) for bankruptcy protection more than five months ago on August 1, 2011. The filing was made at the United States Bankruptcy Court, Eastern District of Texas (Sherman). The bankruptcy petition number is 11- 42400.

According to Schedule B of the petition, Whitestone has $0.00 in its business checking account. Schedule D shows a total indebtedness to secured creditors of $20,167,465.94.

Schedule F of the petition indicates that Whitestone owes another $808,179.28 to various unsecured creditors. Notably, those unpaid amounts include $123,845.13 to local taxing agencies for unpaid property taxes for the 2008 to 2010 tax years. The status of payment for the property taxes due January 31, 2012, for the 2011 tax year is unknown.

Also included in Schedule F is an unsecured $225,000 note payable to the East Montgomery County Improvement District (“EMCID”). However, more significant amounts have been funded by EMCID to Whitestone in the form of expense reimbursements.

Whitestone is a limited partnership whose general partner is Whitestone Houston Holdings LLC. The manager of the general partner is John D. Marlin. Marlin is also manager of EQ Ventures GP LLC, the general partner of Global Earthquest Ventures LP (“Global”). Global is one of the parties to the contracts executed with EMCID.

According to EarthQuest Institute, Marlin is also a director of the EarthQuest Institute (“Institute”), a nonprofit organization established to apparently manage the EarthQuest Museum and Institute. Marlin is shown on their website as a director of the Institute. The Institute is another of the parties to the contracts executed with EMCID.

According to Eco-Resort, Hotel, Conference Center and Theme Park | Earth Quest Resort, Marlin’s real estate and development company, Marlin-Atlantis, of which he is the chief executive officer, is the general partner and developer of the planned project through an entity called EarthQuest Resort. This company does not appear to be a party to the contracts executed with EMCID. Marlin-Atlantis is based in Dallas.

Marlin did not respond to a request for comment.

Frank McCrady, President and CEO of EMCID, stands behind the development. “We have a new developer who is working with the bank to take over the property and the project.

“It is not a matter of if, but when [it will be built],” he said.

According to a website at Whitestone: A Premier Master Planned Community, Whitestone originally acquired the New Caney land for a residential development to be called Whitestone. As described in a special warranty deed dated June 14, 2004, the same being recorded in the public records of Montgomery County under Clerk’s File Number 2004-06651 and film code number 608-10-2194, the property was purchased from HS Tejas Ltd. The purchase price of the land, as stated in the first paragraph of the deed, was in the amount of $4,150,000 plus “$10 and other good and valuable consideration.”

Over time, the idea of a dinosaur-themed park and resort was developed through the principals and affiliates of Whitestone. This new concept was then planned on about 500 acres of the land that was originally intended for residential development. Due to the projected economic impact on the surrounding region, discussions were initiated with the EMCID.

Those discussions ultimately resulted in a series of complex agreements between Global, EMCID and the Earthquest Institute. Briefly stated, for the perceived future benefits of having a major theme park and other related developments, EMCID agreed to sell millions of dollars in bonds in order to provide funds to Whitestone for “pre-development” and “pre-construction” expenses.

Pursuant to a Houston Chronicle-This Week article dated August 26, 2009, the aggregate funds [then] paid by EMCID to Whitestone for the foregoing expenses totaled $7,800,000. The same article referenced a second request by Marlin for EMCID to provide another $2,800,000 to Global to pay for a “site locater fee,” the recipient of which was unnamed in the article.

McCrady said that EMCID subsequently did not advance the additional funds to pay the site locater fee.

“We do not want people alarmed and think that the project will not be built. We have Contour Entertainment from Los Angeles. They are going to take over,” he said.

McCrady said he was aware Whitestone had filed for bankruptcy some months ago.

“They have a restructuring plan – a hearing on this will be held Jan. 23 in Dallas,” he said.

The property is currently in bankruptcy but McCrady says Contour is currently working with the bank and hopes to purchase the property eventually.

“Contour is an entertainment company with experience developing theme parks all over the world. Our board thinks that is very good,” McCrady said. Contour, McCrady said, was a subcontractor of Whitestone's and performed all the design work on the EarthQuest project, he said. “Chris Brown, CEO of Contour, has been prepared to step in from the inception,” McCrady said. Owning the site would be a first for the Los Angeles-based design firm.

According to Contour Entertainment's website, Contour Entertainment,

the company performs many functions related to theme park management but they do not own theme parks. Contour's website states that they perform concept development and show design, project management, operational planning, market research and architectural design. EarthQuest is already listed as one of the six projects Contour is working on.

The site states that, “Contour Entertainment is the Resort Masterplanner and lead designer for all aspects of this $530 million, 500-acre (Phase 1) entertainment resort as well as providing the initial design for the conceptual direction and facility design for the $20 million, 40,000-sqare foot, not-for-profit EarthQuest Institute.”

It appears that the general plan of repayment to the EMCID was to receive about one-half of the proceeds at the beginning of construction of the theme park, with the second half being repaid after construction of the park was completed. However, there have been numerous changes and amendments to the original contracts and the current status of the repayment terms is uncertain. The filing of the bankruptcy petition has created concerns about any projected construction date and whether or not the bankruptcy filing has jeopardized the repayment of the monies funded by EMCID to Global.

“Whitestone was just a landholding company,” McCrady said. “The bond paid for predevelopment expenses, engineers, drainage, things like that all related to EarthQuest.”

McCrady said that repayments are certain, based on future sales tax recapture as well as future taxes attached to the development zone and future hotel taxes.

“We would not have issued bonds if there was any chance of the funds not being recovered,” he said.

The contracts further provide that, should the project not be constructed, then EMCID would have the right to purchase certain properties owned by the Institute. That purchase option is for the 50 acres upon which the Dino Institute and Museum would be built. The option price for that tract is $1,250,000. This amount would be in addition to the original $7,800,000 already known to be approved by the bond to Global.

McCrady said that EMCID and the bond has put up about $9 million. He said “you can add another million to the bond money” for expenses to date.

Marlin Atlantis also received approval from taxing authorities for property tax abatements to enhance the profitability of the project via Montgomery County Commissioners Court and from the passage of House Bill 4015. At the same time, the contracts between Global and EMCID would have set in motion a set of new taxes and user fees in connection with the development and operation of the theme park and museum, including Improvement Zone sales taxes and hotel occupancy taxes, along with event admission taxes and parking fees and taxes.

In fact, McCrady said,”Without a doubt, this will happen. If Contour fails, others are willing to step up. We are not putting all our faith in one developer. That is not the way we do business. We have backup plans A, B, C and D.”

“From our perspective, the board thinks the future sales tax will pay back the money. The property is well suited to retail development.

“Contour is hoping to pick up the project after the bankruptcy is complete,” McCrady said. “Houston is poised for theme park projects. We have three different economic reports that say that.”

List of creditors and amounts owed listed in the bankruptcy filing:

Creditors holding secured claims, according to Schedule D:

J.R. Moore, Jr. Tax Assessor, $15,970.81; County of Montgomery Tax Office, $61,943.94; Hillcrest Bank, $20,043,611.21; J. R. Moore, Jr. Tax Assessor, $45,939.98.

Creditors Holding Unsecured Claims, according to Schedule F:

Anco-McDonald Waterworks, $5,385; Bracewell & Guiliani LLP, $952.50; Cindy A Schmidt, $2,521.57; Coasts, Rose, Yale Ryman & Lee, $3858.83; East Montgomery County Improvement District, $225,000; Hayne and Associates PC, $155; Hesse & Hesse LLP, $225; Ryan & Company PC, $1025; Sammons Realty Corp., $275,683.88; Texas Commission-Environmental Quality, $2,565.38; Thompson & Knight LLP, $11,978.74, and WMA Whitestone Land LP, $278,828.38.

At its inception, Evolvers were using a presentation that featured Trey's many accomplishments. I think there was a slide for his ethanol company being the 4th largest, and another slide touting his home finding database, AND a slide about Earthquest, and how Trey was building a "Disney-like" theme park.

If those slides were part of a recruiting presentation, and Trey knew all along that the slides were misleading, couldn't that be considered unethical?

Originally Posted by Undercover Brother

If those slides were part of a recruiting presentation, and Trey knew all along that the slides were misleading, couldn't that be considered unethical?

At this level of deception, ethics is last on the list of worries.

Have mercy on the poor regulators charged with investigating this type of operation.

The level of sophisticated wheeling and dealing employed by white collar criminals usually takes years and years of patient unravelling by highly qualified forensic auditors, and, that's WITH full court approved access AFTER the fraud is exposed.

For example, to anyone with the slightest legal knowledge, AdSurf Daily was an obvious fraud from its' inception AND records show the authorities new it.

Even then, it took almost two years to stop it and it STILL isn't scheduled to face court until late 2012.

Financial crime is demonstrably low on the priority list of governments and politicians, particularly post 911 when so many resources have been redirected into chasing shado.....err......the war on terrorism.

EVERYTHING, and I do mean EVERYTHING said about Evolv and Trey White has happened according to script.

Short of dragging President Obama and/or one of his minions here by the short and curlies, all we can do is inform those willing to listen.

Maybe we can't save the world, but, I sure as hell know we CAN make a difference.

THIS BUSINESS IS NOT BBB ACCREDITED

EvolvHealth, LLC

Phone: (888) 280-9555Fax: (888) 717-707513455 Noel Rd Ste 2300, Dallas, TX 75240-1534http://www.evolvhealth.com/



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4 complaints closed with BBB in last 3 years | 3 closed in last 12 months

Complaint Type	Total Closed Complaints
Problems with Product / Service	4
Advertising / Sales Issues	0
Billing / Collection Issues	0
Delivery Issues	0
Guarantee / Warranty Issues	0
Total Closed Complaints	4

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  BBB knows of no significant government actions involving EvolvHealth, LLC.
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  On May 5, 2011, the BBB requested that Evolv Health, LLC substantiate, modify, or discontinue several of its advertised product claims. Specifically, the BBB requested substantiation for the following claims:
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  "(Evolv Water) increases the bioavailability of oxygen at the cellular level, as well as assist the body in maintaining a healthy inflammatory response."
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  "The THIN proprietary blend improves mental clarity, reaction time, concentration and alertness, too."
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  "Liquid suspension... is now known to be the most effective method for delivering nutrients to the bloodstream."
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  "Evolv Gel soothes sore muscles and reduces the appearance of redness."
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  According to the BBB Code of Advertising, "claims as to energy savings, performance, safety, efficacy, results, etc. which will be obtained by or realized from a particular product or service should be based on recent and competent scientific, engineering or other objective data."
  The company agreed to discontinue the claims regarding "liquid suspension" and its "Evolv Gel" citing that it had insufficient evidence to support those claims. In addition, the company provided 3 studies which it believed would substantiate its claims regarding its Evolv Water and Evolv Thin products. However, after reviewing the materials, the BBB determined that the studies were insufficient in substantiating the product claims in question. The BBB called into question the statistical significance, methodology, and conclusions of the study.
  As of December 19, 2011, the company has modified or discontinued some of its original advertising claims. However, the BBB has failed to receive adequate substantiation for one of the company's newer claims. Specifically, Evolv Health has failed to provide substantiation for its new claim that Archaea Active water "increases blood levels of ATP and reduces levels of lactic acid."
  
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topBBB file opened: 10/19/2009Business started: 07/01/2009Licensing

This company is in an industry that may require licensing, bonding or registration in order to lawfully do business. BBB encourages you to check with the appropriate agency to be certain any requirements are currently being met.
These agencies may include:
Texas Commission on Environmental Quality
PO Box 13087
Austin, TX78711-3087
(512) 239-1000
http://www.tceq.state.tx.us

Texas Department of State Health Services
1100 W 49th St
Austin, TX78756-3101
(512) 834-6600
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us
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BBB Challenges Advertising Claims by EvolvHealth 8/16/2011

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UPDATE:On October 14, 2011, Evolv Health provided an additional study for the BBB to evaluate. BBB Business Reviews are subject to change at any time. For the current BBB Business Review on EvolvHealth, LLC, see EvolvHealth, LLC Business Review in Dallas, TX - Dallas Texas BBB Dallas, TX, August 16, 2011-- EvolvHealth, LLC, a Dallas-based multi-level marketer of bottled water and other products, has failed to substantiate claims about its products when challenged by the BBB. The business responded to the BBB and discontinued some claims on its website, but did not provide sufficient substantiation for other claims. Some of the claims removed from the website remain in online videos, in testimonials, and in other materials. The BBB challenged claims for Evolv Water, Evolv Thin, and other products. EvolvHealth claims that Evolv Water is enhanced by a process which the business calls Archaea Active.

In response to the Better Business Bureau’s request for substantiation, EvolvHealth provided a study that failed to provide crucial information supporting the study's statistical significance. In addition, one of the study’s findings directly contradicts one of the business’s cornerstone marketing claims. EvolvHealth claims that Evolv Water with Archaea Active “increases oxygen at the molecular level”, but the study of Archaea Active found that “blood levels of oxygen were statistically unchanged.” The challenge was part of the BBB’s ongoing local advertising review program. The BBB identifies advertising claims that may be misleading and seeks cooperation from businesses to comply with the basic principles for truth in advertising in the BBB Code of Advertising.

The BBB asks businesses either to substantiate the claims, modify the claims, or discontinue the claims. “Consumers reasonably expect that advertisers are able to show an adequate basis for claims made about products, and businesses should have substantiation in hand before the advertising appears,” said Jeannette Kopko, spokesperson for the BBB serving Dallas and Northeast Texas. “But when a business is not able to show sufficient substantiation for those claims, the BBB’s role is to ask the business to voluntarily modify or cease using those claims.” In addition to bottled water, EvolvHealh also sells carbonated drinks, shake mixes, vitamins and a topical gel.

The business has a BBB rating of F, the lowest rating possible, due to failure to provide substantiation for advertising claims. In May, 2011, the Better Business Bureau serving Dallas and Northeast Texas requested substantiation for the following claims: “[Evolv Water] increases the bioavailability of oxygen at the cellular level, as well as assists the body in maintaining a healthy inflammatory response.” “The THIN proprietary blend improves mental clarity, reaction time, concentration and alertness too.” “Liquid suspension … is now known to be the most effective method for delivering nutrients to the bloodstream.” “Evolv Gel soothes sore muscles and reduces the appearance of redness.”

The BBB Code of Advertising states that “claims as to energy savings, performance, safety, efficacy, results, etc., which will be obtained by or realized from a particular product or service should be based on recent and competent scientific, engineering, or other objective data.” In response to the BBB, EvolvHealth agreed to discontinue the claims regarding “liquid suspension” and its “Evolv Gel”, noting that it had insufficient evidence to support those claims. In addition, the business provided three studies which it believed would substantiate its claims regarding its Evolv Water and Evolv Thin products. However, after reviewing the materials, the BBB determined that the studies were insufficient to substantiate the product claims in question. The BBB called into question the statistical significance, methodology, and conclusions of the studies.

As of July 21, the company has failed to substantiate the remaining advertising claims. EvolvHealth has been the subject of four complaints from distributors in Missouri, North Carolina, Texas, and Utah, seeking refunds under the cancellation policy. These complaints have been answered and resolved by the business. To read the BBB Business Review on EvolvHealth, LLC, go to EvolvHealth, LLC Business Review in Dallas, TX - Dallas Texas BBB To learn more about BBB Advertising Review and the BBB Code of Advertising, seeDallas Advertising Review - Dallas BBB

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Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

The BBB challenged claims for Evolv Water, Evolv Thin, and other products. EvolvHealth claims that Evolv Water is enhanced by a process which the business calls Archaea Active.

But Evolv Limitless doesn't use Archea Active, so it's the real deal right? It improves mental clarity and muscle building right? If I take Limitless twice, I can rise from my wheelchair to play 18 holes of golf, right? If I can't believe the scientists at Futurecueticals, then WHO can I believe? They're SCIENTISTS!

UB

Evolv Evolution:

Water:Gel:Meal Replacement Shakes: Pills: Magic Bracelets

I think they have figured out the alternative to having large teams leave when interest dies on a particular product. Just keep adding products, no matter how far they deviate from the original company mantra, so long is the product brings new recruits with it. Will the CPrime bracelet earn the Futurecuetical stamp of approval? We all know how much that means.

What's next? Evolv Voodoo?

UB

Originally Posted by Undercover Brother

What's next? Evolv Voodoo?

NEXT ???

Isn't that what they've been doing all along ??

The water had nothing else, its' power MUST have been voodoo

IIRC, Evolv president, Josh "CPrime" Higginbotham cut his MLM teeth flogging the magical mystery CPrime PowerBalance bracelet before the company was forced by Australian authorities to admit the bracelet was useless : http://gizmodo.com/5723577/powerbala nce-admits-their-wristbands-are-a-scam

Way to go, Josh.

I wonder if it's at all possible for these MLM regulars to actually do anything with "honesty" or "integrity"

Imagine how parents must feel after years of sacrifice and deprivation to provide an education when their pride and joy arrives home for Thanksgiving and announces he/she sells bottled tap water and plastic non-magical bracelets to gullible sick and desperate people.

Charming.

Originally Posted by Undercover Brother

Evolv Evolution:

Water:Gel:Meal Replacement Shakes: Pills: Magic Bracelets

I think they have figured out the alternative to having large teams leave when interest dies on a particular product. Just keep adding products, no matter how far they deviate from the original company mantra, so long is the product brings new recruits with it. Will the CPrime bracelet earn the Futurecuetical stamp of approval? We all know how much that means.

What's next? Evolv Voodoo?

UB

Cmon....the next logical step is the evolv amega wand.

Originally Posted by Whip

Cmon....the next logical step is the evolv amega wand.

OMG! That is just what I was thinking. In the meantime, someone call our own little Clem Lemons and tell him this is the one he should test!!!

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

OMG! That is just what I was thinking. In the meantime, someone call our own little Clem Lemons and tell him this is the one he should test!!!

Soapboxmom

Sorry, I use strictly scientifically verified techniques....tarot cards and palm readers....oh, almost forgot letters to God!

Originally Posted by littleroundman

NEXT ???
Imagine how parents must feel after years of sacrifice and deprivation to provide an education when their pride and joy arrives home for Thanksgiving and announces he/she sells bottled tap water and plastic non-magical bracelets to gullible sick and desperate people.

Charming.

These are the same folks who told you that their Gel cured infant tooth-aches. They passed shame a long time ago.

Originally Posted by laidback

Sorry, I use strictly scientifically verified techniques....tarot cards and palm readers....oh, almost forgot letters to God!

Hell no, the letters only work if you live in Iowa - that's a scam! Have you ever thought of doing a double blind with a crystal ball? There are some great offers on the internet.

The Dinosaur project fake multi-billionaire bragged of is down the crapper. He and his gang milked it for all it was worth and ran it into the ground. These charlatans emptied the tax payers pockets of at least 9 million. Are you Evolvers sure that Trey's assets are solidly behind you?

http://www.realscam.com/f11/trey-whi...html#post15143

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Are you Evolvers sure that Trey's assets are solidly behind you?

Goodness knows where Whites' assets are located.

Rest assured, however, that Trey is behind the Evolvers.

He has to be.

It's almost impossible to stab someone in the back if you're in front of them.

T.O.P.G.U.N is out of health and wellness altogether?

Promised four years, and gave 'em one.

One year is like seven to a dog, so he probably thinks he fulfilled his obligation and promises.

Good luck selling energy. I sure would like to buy some from your experienced sales team. I am Momentis!

UB

Evolv has another convention in Dallas on Feb. 17th. They have lowered the price of admission to $129, to learn how you can sell Trey's water, and the magical bracelets.

They promise a "star-studded" event, with speeches from some of today's top personalities, including the scientist from FutureCueticals, who will continue to explain that despite what the BBB says, Evolv's Archae Active TM ingredients could help with something or other.

Can't want to hear his endorsement of the balancing and healing powers of Cprime.

UB.

the scientist from FutureCueticals, who will continue to explain that despite what the BBB says, Evolv's Archae Active TM ingredients could help with something or other.

I hear that if you pour 58 bottles of Treys' water and some Tide liquid laundry detergent into a Fisher and Paykel, Evolv does a reasonable, if somewhat expensive, job of cleaning clothes.

Other than that...............who knows ???