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The truth is you are not being honest about where you are. I will also bet you are a die hard MLMer and here on a desperate mission. Not a good way to start!

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Hey, but there are always alternative ways to make money!!!



Soapboxmom

Undercover Brother ... are you just trying to get a reality TV show? If so .. you are going about it all wrong.

I think I have mentioned before there are some serious scammers, liars and frauds in the industry. The most hilarious part of this industry is watching one MLMer call another MLMer a Noogie head!

Evolv has got lots of big shot recruiters going through those revolving doors:
Yoli Triple Diamond Distributor Carlos Aponte Jr. Moves To Carbon Copy Pro | thatMLMbeat | MLM Success Blog

by George Fourie

Yoli Triple Diamond Distributor Carlos Aponte Jr. Moves To Carbon Copy Pro

11:17 am in Blog, MLM News, mlm by George Fourie



Carlos Aponte Jr, 16-year network marketing professional who is known amongst his team as one of the first Triple Diamond distributors in Yoli, recently announced on a Youtube video that he will no longer be building his Yoli network marketing business.
He stated that although Yoli is an excellent company, they are moving in a direction that he chooses not to be a part of at this point in time.
Carlos gracefully thanked and praised his team in one of his “keeping it real videos’ for helping him achieve such a great accomplishment in such a short period of time. He confessed that none of it would have been possible without their dedication and hard work.
Aponte also backed out of the Yoli cruise although he had qualified for it.
After doing a quick Google search on Carlos, I came across this press release where Carlos announced his new venture with Carbon Copy Pro.
Carlos stated that “You put yourself in front of an audience of people who are or will soon be online entrepreneurs. People who are already looking for what you have to offer. You’re no longer prospecting but marketing – big difference.”
Carlos has built several MLM organizations that have generated millions in sales volume. His story was also featured in ‘Chicken Soup For The Network Marketers Soul.”



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10 Responses to Yoli Triple Diamond Distributor Carlos Aponte Jr. Moves To Carbon Copy Pro

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  Doc Bunkum said: On April 28, 2010
  Len Clements tells a different version of the story than Carlos’.
  On mlm.com this afternoon Len stated:
  “There’s also a lot more to the Carlos Apante story. Carlos was a “Triple Diamond” in Yoli because he was given a maxed power leg (opposite side of the company from me). He’s also been terminated and not only is a civil case being brought against him there may likely even be criminal charges as well.”
  Len
  So what’s the real story?.......
  

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There is a long rather bloddy fight that continues for 23 posts, but I digress. Where did this clown land you ask. He jumped and dumped numerous times until he landed right in hot zero water --- Evolv!!!

Soapboxmom

Page 1 of 1#Property AddressCityOwner Name / Business NameTotal ValueType1
7161 FISHER RD DALLAS WHITE ROSCOE F III $1,607,730 RESIDENTIAL 2
4039 DALGREEN DR DALLAS WHITE ROSCOE F III $649,010 RESIDENTIAL 3
6642 RIDGEMONT DR DALLAS WHITE ROSCOE F III $224,970 RESIDENTIAL 4
7161 FISHER RD DALLAS WHITE ROSCOE F III $1,103,200 COMMERCIAL

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Owner (Current 2011)WHITE ROSCOE F III
7177 FISHER RD
DALLAS, TEXAS 752141916

Multi-Owner (Current 2011) Not Applicable (N/A)

Legal Desc (Current 2011) 1:CERVIN ADDN2:BLK 4407 LT 1 & ADJ TR ACS 2.03:SEE PARENT ACCT FOR REM ACS4:VOL2002166/9294 DD12312001 CO-DC5:4407 000 00100 3DA4407 000 Deed Transfer Date: 12/31/2001

Value 2010 Certified ValuesImprovement:

Land:

Market Value:$567,730
+ $1,040,000
=$1,607,730
Capped Value: $1,268,242Tax Agent: BOWLBY D ALAN & ASSOC INCRevaluation Year:2010Previous Revaluation Year:2009

Main Improvement (Current 2011)
Building Class23 Construction TypeFRAME # Baths (Full/Half)3/ 1 Year Built 1992 FoundationPIER AND BEAM # Kitchens1 Effective Year Built1992 Roof TypeHIP # Bedrooms4 Actual Age19 yearsRoof MaterialALUMINIUM # Wet Bars0 CDU (Condition / Desirability / Utility)VERY GOOD Fence TypeIRON # Fireplaces1 Living Area 4,109 sqft Ext. Wall MaterialBRICK VENEER, FRAME, BRICK VENEER Sprinkler (Y/N)Y Total Area4,109 sqft BasementNONE Deck (Y/N)N % Complete100% HeatingCENTRAL FULL Spa (Y/N)N # StoriesONE AND ONE HALF STORIES Air ConditionCENTRAL FULL Pool (Y/N)N Depreciation15% Sauna (Y/N)N

Additional Improvements (Current 2011) #Improvement TypeConstructionFloorExterior WallArea (sqft)1ATTACHED GARAGE BK-BRICK CONCRETE UNASSIGNED 784

Land (Certified 2010) #State CodeZoningFrontage (ft)Depth (ft)AreaPricing MethodUnit PriceMarket AdjustmentAdjusted PriceAg Land1SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT 1 ACRE 002.0000 ACRE STANDARD $400,000.0030%$1,040,000 N

* All Exemption information reflect Certified 2010. *

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Owner (Current 2011)WHITE ROSCOE F III
7177 FISHER RD
DALLAS, TEXAS 752141916

Multi-Owner (Current 2011) Not Applicable (N/A)

Legal Desc (Current 2011) 1:CERVIN ADDN2:BLK 4407 LT 1 & ADJ TR ACS 4.88413:SEE HS ACCT FOR REM ACS4:VOL2002166/9294 DD12312001 CO-DC5:4407 000 00100 3DA4407 000 Deed Transfer Date: 12/31/2001

Value 2010 Certified ValuesImprovement:
Land:
Market Value:$0
+ $1,103,200
=$1,103,200
Ag Use Value: $488Tax Agent: BOWLBY D ALAN & ASSOC INCRevaluation Year:2010Previous Revaluation Year:2008

Improvements (Current 2011)

No Improvements.

Land (Certified 2010) #State CodeZoningFrontage (ft)Depth (ft)AreaPricing MethodUnit PriceMarket AdjustmentAdjusted PriceAg Land1QUALIFIED AGRICULTURAL LAND SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT 1 ACRE 003.2400 ACRE STANDARD $400,000.00-25%$972,000 Y2QUALIFIED AGRICULTURAL LAND SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT 1 ACRE 001.6400 ACRE STANDARD $400,000.00-80%$131,200 Y

* All Exemption information reflect Certified 2010. *
Exemptions (Certified 2010)
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Kenn Dunn and Carlos Aponte Jr. claim Trey's house is a 70 million dollar property. Try 2.7 million. Again, more examples of how this industry is filled with liars and frauds. Where is Trey White with his compliance department? That is all the property he owns in Dallas county listed above with the details for the two records that comprise the house the clowns had their "zero water" party at. I assume they spiked it!

Soapboxmom

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Carlos Aponte Jr. pulled everything and is redoing his website. Is he afraid I will call him on his fiction? Not to smart to lie about things that can easily be verified by readily available public records as he did above.

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

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Carlos Aponte Jr. pulled everything and is redoing his website. Is he afraid I will call him on his fiction? Not to smart to lie about things that can easily be verified by readily available public records as he did above.

Soapboxmom

Are you sure he isn't going to another MLM? That seems to be his MO. How many has he been with in the the past two years? He's a jumper. He's also a douche nozzle sleazebag. Pretty typical with the recruiters. If he stays with Evolv, bet he doesn't last two months. He and Jack Weinzierl have that trait in common.

I have quoted and linked Abel Pharmboy's very informative blog previously. These comments are so delightful I thought we should revisit them. KC Frantzen is our very own little shill. I think the suggestion of a class action lawsuit is quite prophetic. With a multi-billionaire owner and multi-million dollars earnings running around promoting this "zero water," I see litigation on the horizon. I am personally acquainted with very talented litigators in Texas.

The University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center takes legal action against Evolv water : Terra Sigillata

3 So people with cancer might use these products instead of treatment that could save their lives, but the real problem with the products is that their advertising violates trademark. Sad how very toothless our ability to regulate these products is, but if M.D. Anderson can take 'em down this way, more power to them.
Posted by: idlemind | November 21, 2009 2:00 PM


4 I'm not a bioactive lipids expert (yet, next year I'll be doing a bioactives project), but I do work with A549 cells and I can read a graph.

PGE2 production was reduced with increased concentration of healtH20 enhanced water (table 5).

Eh what? table 5 shows PGE2 levels all over the place, with the 1x concentration higher than the control! Although without error bars this could just be a messy assay result.
The results are all over the place, and in places contradictory. In the assay where they added arachidonic acid, the low concentrations of water appeared to have an effect, not the high (and the results were all over the place again). The LTE4 results in table 2 show an increase at 1x, but are described in the text as a decrease (and lower concentrations of the water have no detectable LTE4, either we are seeing homeopathy here or the assay is too flawed to be used).
The whole thing is a dogs breakfast, and does not support any anti-inflammatory role for the water.
Posted by: Ian Musgrave | November 22, 2009 9:15 PM


5 Professor Musgrave, what a pleasure to see you here! Yes, I also noted the inverse concentration response and general scatter of the data.
However, I have never heard of crappy data ever referred to as "a dogs breakfast" - is that an Australian term?
Posted by: Abel Pharmboy | November 23, 2009 10:47 AM


6 Hi Abel! Anything to distract myself form the pile of marking (grading for US readers, in Oz grading is something you do with a very large tractor-like machine). Hmmm, "dogs breakfast" certainly is Ozian, but I though more widespread, maybe also used in the UK.
Still, that data, it's rubbish. [/Marvin the Paranoid Android Voice]
Posted by: Ian Musgrave | November 23, 2009 3:10 PM

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Thank you for this post, very informative. If you have any more updates, please post, we will check in often. Hopefully people who are about to join this company will have a chance to read this post first and stay away.
Posted by: Inquiry Minds | November 23, 2009 4:55 PM

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YouTube - EvolvHealth | Interview with Dr. Collins
interview
The Science - Archaea Active
article by one of the inventors
About - Archaea Active
history
News - Archaea Active
detail about the litigation
Posted by: KC Frantzen | November 24, 2009 1:26 AM


9 Shame on Trey White the Founder of Evolv, Some investment that was to invest in that leadership team, I see a class action suit coming around the corner for dist- to get back their investments and times invested in this venture, don't spend your billions yet!!!
Posted by: rick white | November 24, 2009 10:18 PM


10 I’ve been using the product myself in the testing phase for 3+ years, and members of my family and friends have been for 7 years or more.
I don't know Trey White and team so can't vouch for them. But I know all 3 of the inventors (of what is now known as 'Evolv')and their families personally.
It is a wonderful product which has changed many lives for the better.
So don't give up on it just yet, okay?
Posted by: KC Frantzen | November 30, 2009 11:58 PM

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Abel: anecdote DOES NOT deny causation either. The lack of critical thinking also weighs on you. While nobody can assert that this water would cure migraines, you can not make any assertions on the contrary either. I know the proof rests on evolvhealth, but you have no right to dismiss a product just because YOU don't have proof it works. Logical? You tell me...
Posted by: Ana Giraldo | February 23, 2010 10:26 AM

17 Hi Ana, sorry but I have ever right to dismiss the product until there is any proof the it has any therapeutic effect for any indication. I don't believe that you understand what critical thinking means. Using your example, I could say that Italian salad dressing cures cancer because no one has proven that it doesn't.
Of course, that doesn't stop anyone from buying the water and believing that it has any therapeutic benefit. However, it is illegal to for the company itself to claim that it has medicinal effects under the guidelines of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act. I would also caution distributors from making medicinal claims for the product as these would fall under FTC purview as false advertising.
However, I do suffer from migraines myself and wish you all the best in remaining migraine-free.
Posted by: Abel Pharmboy | February 23, 2010 11:40 AM


18 I chopped off my own penis because I was depressed. But after drinking only *3* bottles of Evolv, it grew back and I'm more happy than ever!
Posted by: Rolando | May 2, 2010 9:40 PM
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Thanks again, Abel Pharmboy!

Soapboxmom

Again .. shows how little you know ....
When did you become a real estate appraiser?

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Page 1 of 1#Property AddressCityOwner Name / Business NameTotal ValueType1
7161 FISHER RD DALLAS WHITE ROSCOE F III $1,607,730 RESIDENTIAL 2
4039 DALGREEN DR DALLAS WHITE ROSCOE F III $649,010 RESIDENTIAL 3
6642 RIDGEMONT DR DALLAS WHITE ROSCOE F III $224,970 RESIDENTIAL 4
7161 FISHER RD DALLAS WHITE ROSCOE F III $1,103,200 COMMERCIAL

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Owner (Current 2011)WHITE ROSCOE F III
7177 FISHER RD
DALLAS, TEXAS 752141916

Multi-Owner (Current 2011) Not Applicable (N/A)

Legal Desc (Current 2011) 1:CERVIN ADDN2:BLK 4407 LT 1 & ADJ TR ACS 2.03:SEE PARENT ACCT FOR REM ACS4:VOL2002166/9294 DD12312001 CO-DC5:4407 000 00100 3DA4407 000 Deed Transfer Date: 12/31/2001

Value 2010 Certified ValuesImprovement:

Land:

Market Value:$567,730
+ $1,040,000
=$1,607,730
Capped Value: $1,268,242Tax Agent: BOWLBY D ALAN & ASSOC INCRevaluation Year:2010Previous Revaluation Year:2009

Main Improvement (Current 2011)
Building Class23 Construction TypeFRAME # Baths (Full/Half)3/ 1 Year Built 1992 FoundationPIER AND BEAM # Kitchens1 Effective Year Built1992 Roof TypeHIP # Bedrooms4 Actual Age19 yearsRoof MaterialALUMINIUM # Wet Bars0 CDU (Condition / Desirability / Utility)VERY GOOD Fence TypeIRON # Fireplaces1 Living Area 4,109 sqft Ext. Wall MaterialBRICK VENEER, FRAME, BRICK VENEER Sprinkler (Y/N)Y Total Area4,109 sqft BasementNONE Deck (Y/N)N % Complete100% HeatingCENTRAL FULL Spa (Y/N)N # StoriesONE AND ONE HALF STORIES Air ConditionCENTRAL FULL Pool (Y/N)N Depreciation15% Sauna (Y/N)N

Additional Improvements (Current 2011) #Improvement TypeConstructionFloorExterior WallArea (sqft)1ATTACHED GARAGE BK-BRICK CONCRETE UNASSIGNED 784

Land (Certified 2010) #State CodeZoningFrontage (ft)Depth (ft)AreaPricing MethodUnit PriceMarket AdjustmentAdjusted PriceAg Land1SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT 1 ACRE 002.0000 ACRE STANDARD $400,000.0030%$1,040,000 N

* All Exemption information reflect Certified 2010. *

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Owner (Current 2011)WHITE ROSCOE F III
7177 FISHER RD
DALLAS, TEXAS 752141916

Multi-Owner (Current 2011) Not Applicable (N/A)

Legal Desc (Current 2011) 1:CERVIN ADDN2:BLK 4407 LT 1 & ADJ TR ACS 4.88413:SEE HS ACCT FOR REM ACS4:VOL2002166/9294 DD12312001 CO-DC5:4407 000 00100 3DA4407 000 Deed Transfer Date: 12/31/2001

Value 2010 Certified ValuesImprovement:
Land:
Market Value:$0
+ $1,103,200
=$1,103,200
Ag Use Value: $488Tax Agent: BOWLBY D ALAN & ASSOC INCRevaluation Year:2010Previous Revaluation Year:2008

Improvements (Current 2011)

No Improvements.

Land (Certified 2010) #State CodeZoningFrontage (ft)Depth (ft)AreaPricing MethodUnit PriceMarket AdjustmentAdjusted PriceAg Land1QUALIFIED AGRICULTURAL LAND SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT 1 ACRE 003.2400 ACRE STANDARD $400,000.00-25%$972,000 Y2QUALIFIED AGRICULTURAL LAND SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT 1 ACRE 001.6400 ACRE STANDARD $400,000.00-80%$131,200 Y

* All Exemption information reflect Certified 2010. *
Exemptions (Certified 2010)
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Kenn Dunn and Carlos Aponte Jr. claim Trey's house is a 70 million dollar property. Try 2.7 million. Again, more examples of how this industry is filled with liars and frauds. Where is Trey White with his compliance department? That is all the property he owns in Dallas county listed above with the details for the two records that comprise the house the clowns had their "zero water" party at. I assume they spiked it!

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Hey, but there are always alternative ways to make money!!!



Soapboxmom

now that was funny ...

Are you a licensed attorney? Or are you just practicing law without a license?

When will you finally address the ridiculous claims made by your partner-in-scamming 'Karen'?

Originally Posted by RealTruth

Again .. shows how little you know ....
When did you become a real estate appraiser?

That is straight off of the Dallas County Tax Rolls. I will be sure to contact them and tell them Trey White, multi-billionaire, doesn't think his taxes are high enough and ask them to re-evaluate his property. Thanks for the heads up!

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by RealTruth

Are you a licensed attorney? Or are you just practicing law without a license?

I count many talented attorneys as trusted acquaintances. I give my opinion on legal issues when I so choose. Obviously, I am not licensed and have no attorney client relationship iwth anyone. I do have more than 2 working brain cells and therefore enjoy commenting on legal matters as a layperson with strong opinions. I find the legal matters related to MLMs to be quite fascinating issues to explore in my posts.

Soapboxmom

RealTruth, or is that Snowjob,

Why is it the videos where Trey White is standing next to his reps happily being introduced as a multi-billionaire have been taken down. I assume those were turned over to MD Anderson in discovery and properly archived for future possible litigation. Trey / Roscoe Frederick White can prove the veracity of that multi-billionaire status claimed of course.

I assume his reps ads claiming to be multi-million dollar earners, as shown in online solicitations I archived and sent to the Attorney General's Office of Texas, have been turned over as well with the verification of those reps income claims. Transparency guys!!!

Soapboxmom

Joan McMullen Krupicka Not exactly true. My husband, Mark, is the person between the "inventors" and Gio. Without Mark, there wouldn't be an Evolv at this point. Just for the record! :) September 23, 2009 at 3:21pm ·

(Thanks to my little birdy for this one!)

Products is a page on his business website. Doesn't all that chemical stuff look yummy! What exactly did he do to get Evolv in the water bottles?

Soapboxmom

YouTube - Big things With Evolv Health and Trey white with Robert ...

Jun 6, 2010 ... Revolutionizing the Network Marketing industry with multi-Billionaire Trey White , Brent Hicks and Robert Dean Evolv Health Making it Happen, ...
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   - 4:46pm Founded by Multi-Billionaire Trey White it is our goal to make into a Billion dollar company within our first two years in business. ...
   evolvhealthcreateswealth.com/index.php - Cached

Christopher with Multi-Billionaire Founder of Mr. Trey White.





Archived for all those talented attorneys! Don't think you can hide evidence Evolv.

Soapboxmom

Inquiring minds want to know just how Kevin Miller is promoting this stuff. Does he include a quad pack with each signed loan application for www.TexasLending.com? Is Evolv the water he gives out to folks in the office filing out and submitting loan applications? Are Evolv promotional materials littering the office? Are his 180 employees buying the stuff to keep the boss man happy? I see it is not mentioned on his about us page. I would bet the Evolv story is starting to get pretty embarassing by now. I notice he has not been listed as a speaker since the July multi-million dollar earner fiasco that went to the Texas AG's office. Probably bringing the name of his company into the Evolv solicitations was not good promotion for Texas Lending, you think?

Soapboxmom

Google Evolv 2020 Vision Convention or Texas Evolv Convention 2010 under news. There are no results for that search. Talk about landing with a big thud! Even the web search shows there has been little buzz about this million dollar prize featuring shindig. Who won the million smackaroos???

Soapboxmom

Thank you spies for the update. Paul Thorne III won the cool million. We will watch and see if he actually gets the payout. I do recall some MLM prizes that didn't turn out so well.

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

The power point presentation brags of folks on target to make $10,000.00+ and $100,000.00+ per month etc. Folks should demand an Income Disclosure. http://teaminspirit.com/ppt/EVOLV.ppt

With this lawsuit and lots of media coverage I woudn't count on this Titanic to be with us for too long.

Soapboxmom

They are expanding into Latin America and Puerto Rico. I cannot believe the amount of people buying into this crap! This past weekend was their national convention in Gaylord, Texas.

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Thank you spies for the update. Paul Thorne III won the cool million. We will watch and see if he actually gets the payout. I do recall some MLM prizes that didn't turn out so well.

Soapboxmom

Unfortunately, I have a friend in Puerto Rico selling this crap. She also went to the national convention. This thing is like a cult! My friend is soooo brainwashed that I don't recognize her anymore.

Originally Posted by Whip

When will you finally address the ridiculous claims made by your partner-in-scamming 'Karen'?

My friend who is unfortunately an Evolv rep acts exactly like this "Karen" person!!

Originally Posted by Unsaved Trash

From as far back as I can remember, it was drilled into my head, "If it sounds too good to be true, it is." There are the gullible and then there are the stupid. Then there are the gullible and stupid. Those are what the MLMs go after. And it works too.

Ask them to back up their statements and claims in a MLM recruitment meeting. They cannot and they will not. Sort of like Iamwil can't and won't back up that his business is worth over 50K. That's because it isn't. And that list goes on with all of them. What amazes me the most is that the amount of brainwashing involved. Absolute stupidity.

Can Roscoe "Trey" White prove he's a billionaire? Of course not because he isn't. Does anyone stop him from making these claims? Does anyone stop the recruiters in Evolv from making their claims? Nope. So the lies continue and the profits at the top continue. The little morons below get screwed. And they deserve it.

How is it possible that they are still in business?! I'm baffled to see this crap being push in Mexico and Puerto Rico!!!

Originally Posted by Undercover Brother

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October 10 at 11:49am ·
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Shanna McDonald: We are so close to being car qualified for our Company Evolv. So we went and picked her out!!! Sooooooo nice.
October 10 at 12:02pm · 2 people2 people like this.

Delacie Smith: At the bmw dealership with ferrari kelly and big rob, 650coupe or convert hmm lol

Although separated by almost 3,000 miles and literacy, they both found their way to car lots last week, to look at the vehicles their leaders have promised them. Two different people, two different companies, one blind ambition.

UB

UB,

Following my poor friend in Puerto Rico I noticed that the Evolv reps in the island are taking advantage by using churches as sales platforms! google Master Camareno.