Thread: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

Updates on my favorite soap opera:

Tra-His "winning" a Mercedes has been kinda downplayed don't you think? When Larry and Jason "won" theirs, they couldn't get videos up on Youtube fast enough. Do you think they were concerned about calling too much attention to their scheme this time? Do you think this is why T.O.P.G.U.N. left? All questions are rhetorical.

Brent, Anne, Nikki and Trey-Gearing up for the big convention November 4th. At $135 per ticket, they are making a last ditch effort to fill those seats. They refused refunds to all the T.O.P.G.U.N. defectors.

Ken Dunn-Not so fast Ken. There is talk that you might not win the downline's million bucks, because of the attention it would bring to this scam, and they are thinking of giving it to someone named Stacey instead. If that is the case, I hope you haven't spent it yet. I know how you guys sometimes get ahead of yourselves with credit. Speaking of...

Jack-Quit. Spending a lot of time jogging and thinking about Visalus. Speaking of...

Keith Dorsey-Claims to have grossed $500 in his first two weeks in the Visalus Pyramid. (and lost 5 pounds) Awesome.

Shanna-Still driving the old car. I wonder if the Mercedes salesman wants his toaster back from the test drive.

Garret and Robert Dean Jr-Visiting a Best Western near you. Hoping to bilk you next.

Tell me Evolvers: How's my 20/20 vision?

Originally Posted by Undercover Brother

My opinion on Karen's life-cycle at Realscam.com:

She enters into the conversation last Friday downplaying her role as a distributor, which she has been since Evolv's inception, and asks the critics to try to separate the water from the business.

When challenged she becomes condescending to say the least, and implies that critics don't have jobs. I applaud her for not going to the "get a life" card.

When challenged again she goes all self-deprecating saying to SBM, "use little words, I'm stupid."

Then came the don't knock it if you haven't tried it sales pitch. I applaud the critics from refraining from the "I don't need to try gasoline..." retort.

In a last ditch effort to save face she goes with the baffle them with BS moves, which LRM quickly pointed out.

I'm sure Karen had visions of being a cult hero at the Evolv convention next weekend, when she meets Trey for the first time.

UB

Shills and their fraudster masters will often attempt to focus potential victims and/or naysayers attention on why the scam-du-jour is not "A" scam.

It is rare that a deliberately fraudulent operation such as Evolv has only one element of fraud, but it is to the definite benefit of the shill/fraudster to continually focus on one area, thus preventing the "big picture" from emerging.

"Karen" has obviously been well trained in the arts of deflection and misdirection, even suggesting her only interest is in the "product", thus causing focus be kept off the obvious inconsistencies in the "business' aspects of the fraud.

MLMer fraudsters, in particular, are adept at deflecting attention away from the latest wolf-in-sheeps-clothing project by swamping blogs and forums with rhetorical generalized questions.

We see MLM apologists posing questions such as "Is MLM a viable concept" rather than "is selling high priced bottled tap water gonna make you rich" and "how many patents do the fraudsters behind this one hold" rather than "what does holding a patent have to do with the fact there's nothing in the bottles other than tap water"

My jet lag question was never answered by her. I have to watch out that someone doesn't try to steal my urine and sell it.

Don't feel badly. She never answered anyone's questions. lol She can't.

So now we have "Karen" telling us:

1) Now premium spring water from Arkansas is the delivery system for the archaea active formula.

2) It is my understanding that they oversaw the set up and just like Coca Cola for example, trained staff is handling production.

Which raises several question:

a) Is Evolv using "premium spring water from Arkansas" in its' Mexican product ??

b) Coca Cola doesn't claim to add its' secret formula to "premium spring water from Arkansas" in fact, it freely admits its' water is sourced locally, wherever in the world the bottling plant exists, so how on earth is Evolv "like" Coca Cola ???

c) If Evolv water really IS ""premium spring water from Arkansas" who the hell is paying the freight to ship water around the 3,794,101 square miles which mainland USA occupies ????

Oh, how did Evolv let this one get away?????

YouTube - My Visalus Executive Success System Start Pack rolling with TOPGUN and Robert Dean jr

Gee,

MLMers are easily impressed, aren't they ???

He received a box - AWESOME

There's stuff in it - AWESOME

There's styrene packing in it - AWESOME

There's instructions - AWESOME

There's instructions to read the instructions - AWESOME




Sorry, but I stopped watching right about here, I am all AWESOMED out

Originally Posted by littleroundman

So now we have "Karen" telling us:

1) Now premium spring water from Arkansas is the delivery system for the archaea active formula.

2) It is my understanding that they oversaw the set up and just like Coca Cola for example, trained staff is handling production.

Which raises several question:

a) Is Evolv using "premium spring water from Arkansas" in its' Mexican product ??

b) Coca Cola doesn't claim to add its' secret formula to "premium spring water from Arkansas" in fact, it freely admits its' water is sourced locally, wherever in the world the bottling plant exists, so how on earth is Evolv "like" Coca Cola ???

c) If Evolv water really IS ""premium spring water from Arkansas" who the hell is paying the freight to ship water around the 3,794,101 square miles which mainland USA occupies ????

And who actually determined the rating of 'premium' for the alleged spring water?

Another great video full of promises...?

Three questions?

1.) Do you think Dorsey came in at the $500 level or the $900 level? If it was the $500 level, he has made $0.00 this month, but at least he got the shakes and all those instructions for free. But, I'm betting a shrewd businessman like himself (he is a CEO) came in at $900, which means he is still at -$400, but that's a tax write-off, correct?

2.) Did he say $100,000 per week....without working????

3.) Are you freaking kidding me? How many people in this room, and on these videos, have watched him give this exact same sales pitch in the last two years, with FOUR different companies? The only difference is the company name at the top of the slide.

The whole series is up on Youtube. Check it out.

UB

Attached is some helpful info concerning next week's convention. Pay particular attention to the section on attire...

Registration
Registration will be open the following times for you to check-in and receive your welcome packet and 2 bottles of Evolv:
Thursday, November 4th – 12:00pm-7:00pm
Friday, November 5th – 9:00am-8:00pm
Saturday, November 8:00am-6:00pm
Cases of Evolv will be available for purchase throughout the convention and the full amount of volume will be applied to your account.

Things to bring

* Pen and paper to take lots of notes.
* Camera to take pictures with your fellow Evolvers and the EvolvHealth team!
* Magazines or images you want to use to create your 2020 Vision Board (some will be provided).

Attire
Friday and Saturday sessions will be business casual.

Saturday night’s 2020 Celebration Party’s theme is “Dress to your success in 2020″. Imagine your life in 2020 and how successful you are… you’ve created a huge business all around the world, have impacted tens of thousands of people, and have had your dream lifestyle already achieved. Now you’ve been invited to a party to celebrate your successes. How would you show up? Dress to what your success will be in the year 2020. Get ready to look great, feel great, and have an amazing night partying and celebrating with a room filled with 2020 millionaires. Late night munchies and a cash bar will be available.

If you have further questions regarding the convention or have waited until the last minute to purchase your ticket, don’t hesitate to contact the Evolv Member Services department at 888-280-9555.

...There will be quite a few naked people in the audience.

So they are admitting that it will take until 2020 to possibly see a profit or just to get their initial investment back?

Originally Posted by Undercover Brother

Attached is some helpful info concerning next week's convention.


Cases of Evolv will be available for purchase throughout the convention and the full amount of volume will be applied to your account.

So, Trey is charging them to buy Evolv at the meeting?!?

If you get bored waiting on the slide that shows Anne donating bottles to Haiti, which isn't coming, you can count how many times Trey suggests a toast. Every toast adds a little profit to his scheme.*

*If there are 1,600 suckers at this conference and each person takes a one ounce sip during the toast, that is 100 bottles that were just consumed. If a bottle costs you $3.15 each, but costs Trey only $.15 to make, he just made $300.

UB,

Your MLM math can really get a girl all lathered up!

Soapboxmom

I think THIS math is simple. How come a middle-of-the-pyramid Evolver can't figure it out?

Okay, you just spent $250 for five cases of Evolv and earned 25 points. You trade in the 25 points for a $60 Flip Camera. Orrrrrrr, you buy the Flip camera and 5 cases of water from Costco for $75.

Granted, you won't shave 20 minutes off your best marathon time, but you will have an extra $175 in your pocket.

UB-Math Wizard

Originally Posted by littleroundman

ROTFL! Which one is Karen? I think Trey is the guy on the left in the red get up holding the pillow over his head.

Some Evolvers have been on Autoship for 13 months now. I wonder how full those garages and closets are getting...

Diane J. Morgan: Convention November 4th -7th in Dallas at the beautiful Gaylord Texan Resort Hotel. Its going to be A M A Z I N G. I have an extra ticket and room, friends! Who wants to go? Seriously, learn to turn $900 of EVOLV product into over $1500 in 30 days. Ask me how?

One of my favorite reasons to join an MLM is the infinite number of potential clients you can put in your pyramid. You know, you get two, they each get two, infinity and beyond.

If any of you believe that, you would get a huge kick out of watching Keith, Ferrari, and Delacie (AKA Young guns) fight over the same 35 people in their circle.

In all fairness, Yvonne got her BMW (take that Trey). Man, they make it look so easy.

UB

Here come the Evolv "gel" testimonials.

YouTube - Evolv Gel. o2team@mail.com

Awesome!!!!!!!!!

UB

As advertised, it has arrived. I demand Pete Rose gets in, and Tracey is recognized in the Benz category.

Evolv Wall of Fame | Congrats Evolvers!

Please, Please, Please...Next up has to be an Evolv Wall of Shame. Who do you think would get in? Nominees, please.

Nikki,

Jeff won't be needing his two free bottles of Evolv at the convention. He has gone on to be a truck driver, which is an honorable profession, and one in which his family can be proud. If Jim Lutes is the one who talked him into putting off that dream for a couple of months while he promised him riches in Evolv, then I believe Jim should pay Jeff back for lost time, benifits, and a garage full of Evolv...

Jeff Fairchild: ‎2 Tickets for the Convention MAKE OFFER!!
17 hours ago

Undercoverbrother is just an ex evolver with Robert Dean's TopGunn trying to recruit to that new company. Talk about a real scam. http://www.realscam.com/search.php?searchid=17572 Here is a sample of his postings to try and twist the truth. Al lit does is make him look bad. What happened, did he not get an invite to Mexico and so he has to strike out and try to hurt people. He drags people he doesn't even know into this, by coping bits of information from personal postings. It looks like an amateur trying to stir up trouble.

WOW !!!

Any relevant facts you'd like to add to your conjecture there, "Truth" ????

I could have sworn he was one of those reptilian invaders in disguise, but you appear to know the "truth"

Real Truth,

Welcome to the discussion. Your link didn't work, so I couldn't see to exactly what you were referring in regards to twisting the truth. If you could be more specific, and then explain what the real truth is, I would appreciate it.

In regards to being a former Evolver, not being invited to Mexico, being part of T.O.P.G.U.N., and now involved in ViSalus, I can answer unequivocally, that is NOT the REAL TRUTH.

This however, has been the closest anyone has come to asking me why I care, so I will take the opportunity to explain. I became interested in Evolv last year when a couple of people I knew asked me if I wanted to be a water distributor with Evolv. These were guys I knew peripherally, but what I did know is that they had not had much luck after High School, and any opportunity they were touting would be circumspect. So, I looked it up on Google, and found the thread on Scam.com It was at that point that I became fascinated with pyramid schemes and the people involved in them.

You are correct, I was not invited to Mexico with Trey.

I believe my grasp of the English language and the postings I have made would show anyone that I am not involved with T.O.P.G.U.N.

The only part of your post that I struggle with is the "dragging people into it", by taking personal messages...etc. I assume you are talking about items that they themselves post on Facebook, blogs, and Evolv's website in order to lure in unsuspecting marks? I have never once taken something out of context, or tried to twist words. I have never made anything up about anyone to prove a point. If you have a specific instance you can point out, I will apologize.

I appreciate your response to this post.

UB

Originally Posted by RealTruth

so he has to strike out and try to hurt people. He drags people he doesn't even know into this,

Real Truth,

This REALLY got to me. I don't want to hurt anyone. I was trying to point out right from wrong, and do so with humor (subjective), but it isn't my place. I'm sorry. I will be interested to see how this plays out, but I'm going to refrain from commenting on Evolv, and more specifically, on any human beings.

UB