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  • Evolv will prevail in court

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  • Evolv, sinking under negative publicity, will beg for a secret settlement

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  • Evolv will in fact cure cancer and totally shake up the medical community

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    Hi all,
    I'm new here.
    A researcher, who is also a fan of "the water" (a.k.a. Evolv), told me about this site yesterday.
    I'll not speak to the "business" part of it (MLM), because personally, I am new to that part of it.
    I can tell you that some of us have been using "the water" intermittently and/or on a regular basis as part of the guinea pig brigade for close to 10 years now...
    And it is efficacious for many, if not most.
    Living in a different state, I didn't have direct access on a regular basis, until about 1 1/2 yrs ago.
    I personally am a healthy sort and could not tell much difference after using it regularly for several months. I had started drinking it then (still in experimental stage) daily and then it came out as Evolv (made with spring water from AR instead of Houston city water diluted 50/50 with tap water) and I signed up as a "distributor", receiving 2-3 cases/month.
    In October last year I took an int'l trip and had zero jet lag either direction, for the first time in my life. Usually I struggle for several days upon arrival there and I'm wiped out for a couple of weeks, or more, on the return.
    Not so now.
    It was unreal (for me).
    And this happened for a second time this summer (int'l trip, no jet lag).
    Astounding.
    People I personally know have emailed me with their own testimonials ranging from a 70+ yr old lady who had a severe stroke and whose progress is amazing the doctors to another lady who ran a half-marathon and wiped 20 mins off her fastest previous time... And others, including canine and equine use.
    The "water" per se is merely the delivery mechanism for the Archaea Active formula.
    Several have made points about the ingredients and how common they are. True. But it is the process that makes the difference.
    Like grapes to wine, right? The process makes the difference.
    I've read the snarky comments about 2 veterinarians and a chemist inventing the formula.
    What's your point?
    Are you dismissing the science behind it? Have you made any effort to discover more about that aspect?
    Apparently not.
    Maybe this will help a smidgeon: About - Archaea Active
    Again, I'm not here talking about the "business" side of it, but the actual product itself.
    It is unique, superb and my family and I will continue drinking it as long as it is available.
    If you choose not to, that is certainly your business, but to call it "zero water" without making even a cursory inquiry into the product itself is just (fill in your own noun here).
    Well - I've said my piece.
    Just wanted to set that part of it straight from my perspective.

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    But the business side is the bigger part of the rip off.

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    You presuppose the product is a ripoff.
    It is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    You presuppose the product is a ripoff.
    It is not.
    With the greatest respect, Karen, WRT to the majority of your evidence, not only is it not right, it's not even wrong.

    For your own education, do a quick Google on "avoid jet lag dehydration"

    The first answer includes the information:
    Drinking fluids The dry air in aircraft causes dehydration. Drinking plenty of non-alcoholic fluids counters this. Water is better than coffee, tea and fruit juices. Alcohol not only is useless in combating dehydration, but has a markedly greater intoxicating effect when drunk in the rarefied atmosphere of an airliner than it does at ground level.
    the second answer says:
    The best solution to avoid jet lag is to drink lot of water.
    To the uninformed, it may APPEAR drinking Evolv aided you to avoid jet lag, however, most experts agree drinking plain water is what does the trick.

    Secondly,

    the information page to which you pointed is the Archaea Active home page, and the information is unverified.

    If, for example, Evolv is, as many here suspect, a 100% con job, what would be different ??? What can you PROVE with 100% certainty ???

    I can point you to a website which "proves" the earth is flat HERE

    My point being, without independent verification, your information is useless.

    Last month or last year, you hadn't even heard of a substance called "Archaea Active" yet here you are lecturing people about it, based on information somebody you've never even met gave you.

    What's more, without even knowing you, I wouldn't mind betting you don't fully understand the information given on the pages WRT the technical aspects of the research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Hi all,
    I'm new here.
    A researcher, who is also a fan of "the water" (a.k.a. Evolv), told me about this site yesterday.
    I'll not speak to the "business" part of it (MLM), because personally, I am new to that part of it.
    Sorry it took me so long to answer. I had to look up efficacious.

    Since you only want to focus on the product side, I will address that, however, you said you became a distributor as far back as October last year, which makes you one of the first, but I'm not into tripping you up on your own words.

    One thing that is unbelievable in your/their story is that you "the healthy sort" and a scientist would put something in your body for as many as 10 years, without it being properly researched, tested, approved by the FDA, etc.?

    Tell you what. If you and your researcher friend, who is a fan of this site, can answer any of these three questions...I will go away.

    1.) Is the Archea Active TM created in a lab and sent to Arkansas for mixing, or is the independent contract bottler creating it and mixing it at the shop? In either case, are the scientists supervising the mixing process at the Arkansas plant?

    2.) If there is any science to this product, can you point to one respected media outlet (other than the local news fluff piece from a year ago) that covers the science. It seems to me that this formula, if its helping stroke victims and curing Jet Lag, would at least have an article in the Sky Mall magazine.

    3.) Were you guys in some laboratory 10 years ago injecting yourselves with Archae Active TM, and then testing your powers? Didn't you see what happened to the Green Lantern in Spiderman when he tested his formula before it was ready for public consumption..or the Hulk? Haven't we witnessed enough of this rogue science?

    Thank you for taking the time to read this response and to give it some careful thought. I hope my post was efficacious in getting you to consider how silly your testimony sounds.

    UB

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    Hi Little round man
    I'm off to work...
    so real quickly...

    1) Last month or last year, you hadn't even heard of a substance called "Archaea Active" yet here you are lecturing people about it, based on information somebody you've never even met gave you.

    2) What's more, without even knowing you, I wouldn't mind betting you don't fully understand the information given on the pages WRT the technical aspects of the research.
    **** *****


    1a) I've been part of the "guinea pig brigade" for about a decade (off and on - when I was in the Houston area and could access "the water").

    1b) uh no, I'm from Houston. I know all 3 inventors, though Mr. Kaiser has passed away now. If you took a moment to read the link I sent, you would discover that he lived much, much longer than anyone expected. He, and others, attributed this to "the water"...
    In case you are interested... YouTube - Dr Jay Collins interview

    2) I understand more than most.

    in the infamous words of Ah-node
    "I'll be back..."

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Karen,

    Welcome to the forum.

    If the product was really earth shattering I would expect the big pharmaceuticals to be fighting over it and very anxious to test it. It would be worth a fortune if it did a fraction of what the reps trying to peddle it claim it does. The problem is that tons of anecdotal evidence / wild testimonials making a myriad of claims does not equal scientific proof. I am waiting for double blind clinical studies and university studies.

    The second and very obvious problem is the marketing method. To be blunt the MLM industry is filled with liars, frauds and con artist. Because of the compensation plan structure and independent nature of the reps, they have every incentive to run their "business" in a less than ethical manner and Trey can simply shake his head and blame these independent contractors. He himself has obviously grossly overstated his own business accomplishments and paraded himself like a complete buffoon on video as a multi-billionaire. Who would want any association with that?

    Check out the reps for this thing past and present and you will be horrified. Please look for an e-mail from me concerning one of the latest defectors and you will see what I mean. Your input is greatly appreciated. We want all viewpoints and both sides of the story.

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    WOO HOO !!!

    We have our very first real shill.

    One of "her" sources is YouTube, so it MUST be true.

    I wonder how many real doctors and scientists use YouTube to get their message out to the world.

    No answers, no facts, no real information, but "she's" real quick on the cute quips.



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    checking in quickly at lunch.

    Thanks Soapboxmom, for the welcome...

    It will be interesting dialogue if we can keep from the snark.

    Y'all are making some valid points. As I said, I'm talking about product. So... Here ya go...


    Nationally-recognized cancer researcher to advise Health2o Products - Archaea Active
    Nationally-recognized cancer researcher to advise Health2o Products
    DALLAS, TX (December 7, 2009)—Dr. Robert Newman, a renowned medical researcher and Professor Emeritus at The University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, has agreed to consult with Health2o Products, LLC in regards to further testing of its Archaea Active™ formula. Dr. Newman, currently Chief Science Officer (CSO) at a major New England nutraceutical company, will advise on future testing procedures and review and analyze test results from outside independent labs selected by Health2o.

    Dr. Newman’s career has been dedicated to the development of novel therapeutic strategies to improve the quality of life for patients with inflammatory and malignant diseases. His research efforts are nationally-recognized, and have been accomplished through several scientific disciplines, including pharmacology, analytical chemistry, drug development and clinical pharmacology. His work has resulted in more than 300 peer-reviewed publications.

    Dr. Newman recently retired from M.D. Anderson, following a 24-year career there and over 30 years in academic medicine. At M.D. Anderson, he served as the Founder and Co-Director of the Pharmaceutical Development Center. Dr. Newman obtained his M.S. and Ph.D degrees in Pharmacology and Toxicology from the University of Connecticut. He was a member of the University of Vermont Medical School for seven years and was later recruited to be head of the Section of Pharmacology at M.D. Anderson where was promoted to Professor in 1991 with tenure.

    “We are very pleased that Dr. Newman has signed a consulting agreement with us to serve as a Senior Advisor. He will be assisting our company in developing a road map for the continuing research and analysis of our Archaea Active™ formula,” said Kevin D. Kuykendall, chairman and CEO of Health2o Products, LLC.


    Here is more on Futureceuticals: FutureCeuticals - About Us

    Company Overview
    We are a vertically integrated bio-technology company that specializes in the discovery, development, manufacturing, processing, growing and marketing of scientifically innovative nutraceuticals, functional foods and cosmetic ingredients.
    Extensive line of probiotic, nutritional supplement, food-based antioxidant, soy isoflavone and beverage ingredients.
    Locations in Illinois, Wisconsin, California and in Europe.
    State-of-the-art facilities process over 50 million pounds of product every year.
    Processing capabilities include:
    Fermentation
    Refining
    IQF freezing
    Freeze drying
    Drum drying
    Air drying
    Spray drying
    Vacuum evaporation
    Extraction
    Synthesis
    Milling
    Grinding
    Blending
    Infusion
    Facilities include:
    600,000 sq. ft. of production area.
    Two microbiology labs.
    HPLC reference lab.
    Over 1000 acres of organically certified farmland in both Illinois and California.
    Rigorous standards for quality control and customer service.
    We are a privately held company, working in close cooperation with Van Drunen Farms (Van Drunen Farms Growers and Manufacturers of Freeze-Dried Products).
    One hundred and fifty years of Van Drunen experience, family tradition and pride is invested in each and every product.


    http://www.evolvhealth.com/pdfs/Evol...1010_US_EN.pdf

    ** ***

    ok - more later.
    Have a great afternoon...
    from Karen (a real woman)

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    Ohhhh
    one more quickie to someone (not going to look back who)

    In many drug inserts (fine print) it says the MOA is unknown...

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    "1b) uh no, I'm from Houston. I know all 3 inventors, though Mr. Kaiser has passed away now. If you took a moment to read the link I sent, you would discover that he lived much, much longer than anyone expected. He, and others, attributed this to "the water"...
    In case you are interested... YouTube - Dr Jay Collins interview"


    Where in this video does it state anything about Mr. Kaiser in regards to him living any longer than normal? What was the point of this video, as it has nothing to do with what you have stated?

    What did he die of specifically? Do you have the actual research in terms of life expectancy of those who have/had whatever he had? What exactly are you basing your statements on? Opinion or fact? Please state the specifics as I will research this and post the facts here.

    As for your claims regarding Evolv and jet lag, how do you imagine that hundreds of thousands of flight crews have managed to fly internationally and often at night, safely for decades and have survived this without drinking evolv?

    From the FAA: This is based on actual scienentific research by the way:

    http://www.faa.gov/pilots/safety/pil...ian_Rhythm.pdf

    Adjust your bedtime by an hour a day a few days before
    your trip. This will adjust your sleep pattern to match the
    sleep schedule you will keep at your destination.
    Reset your watch to the destination time at the beginning
    of your flight to help you adjust more quickly to the time
    zone you will be visiting.
    Drink plenty of water before, during, and after your flight.The air you breathe on airplanes is extremely dry, and
    some experts believe that dehydration is a predisposing
    cause of jet lag. Virtually everyone agrees that dehydration
    can make jet lag much worse.

    Eat lightly but strategically. What you eat can have a direct
    influence on your wake/sleep cycle. Remember that highprotein
    meals are likely to keep you awake, while foods
    high in carbohydrates can promote sleep, and fatty foods
    may make you feel sluggish.
    Relax on the first day at your destination. Give yourself a
    break and let your body adjust to the time change a little
    more gradually.
    Avoid drinking alcohol or anything with caffeine in
    it during your flight (includes many soft drinks,
    coffee, and tea.) Both alcohol and caffeine increase
    dehydration.
    Use earplugs, headphones, eye masks, or other sleep
    aids to help block out noise and light, to make you more comfortable so you can
    sleep.
    Coping With CRD While On Duty
    • Sleep well at home before any flight.
    • Try to get at least as much sleep per 24 hours as you
    would normally at home.
    • If you are sleepy, try to sleep. Employ strategic (combat)
    napping techniques.
    1. Whenever possible, take a 30-minute nap prior to a
    long flight.
    2. Avoid naps of more than 30 minutes, as they involve
    deep sleep.
    3. Taking a nap is better than not sleeping at all.
    • Avoid pilot adaptation to a local circadian rhythm
    following transmeridian flights with short layovers.
    • Try to maintain the circadian rhythm from your place of
    origin, and at the same, time try to sleep longer.
    • Use caffeine strategically during the flight to counteract
    circadian rhythm sleepiness.
    • While in the cockpit seat, converse with others, stretch
    your legs, and take regular breaks.
    • Try to avoid night flights following a transmeridian flight.
    • Transmeridian flights should be alternated with
    intrameridian flights, enabling you to return to your
    normal circadian rhythm.
    Remember, circadian rhythm disruption can lead to acute or
    even chronic fatigue. Fatigue in the cockpit has shown to be just
    as debilitating as drugs and alcohol.

    Lifestyle Recommendations
    Don’t…• Consume alcohol or caffeine 3-4 hours before going to bed.
    • Eat a heavy meal just before bedtime.
    • Take work to bed.
    • Exercise 2-3 hours before bedtime. While working out promotes a
    healthy lifestyle, it shouldn’t be done too close to bedtime.
    • Use sleeping pills (prescription or otherwise).

    Do…
    • Be mindful of the side effects of certain medications, even overthe-
    counter medications – drowsiness or impaired alertness is a
    concern. Drink plenty of water and stay hydrated.
    • Consult a physician to diagnose and treat any medical conditions
    causing sleep problems.
    • Create a comfortable sleep environment at home. Adjust heating
    and cooling as needed. Get a comfortable mattress.
    • When traveling, select hotels that provide a comfortable
    environment.
    • Get into the habit of sleeping eight hours per night. When needed,
    and if possible, nap during the day, but limit the nap to less
    than 30 minutes. Longer naps produce sleep inertia, which is
    counterproductive.
    • Try to turn in at the same time each day. This establishes a routine
    and helps you fall asleep quicker.
    • If you can’t fall asleep within 30 minutes of going to bed, get up
    and try an activity that helps induce sleep (watch non-violent TV,
    read, listen to relaxing music, etc).
    • Get plenty of rest and minimize stress before a flight. If problems
    preclude a good night’s sleep, rethink the flight and postpone it
    accordingly.

    Crews are allowed rest times during long flights and the air is the cockpit is "fresher" do to it's specific design, which is done purposely so that the flight deck crew is breathing fresher and more oxygenated air and can stay alert. The system in the cokpit is a seperate unit than that for the rest of the aircraft. That has a positive effect on jet leg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Ohhhh
    one more quickie to someone (not going to look back who)

    In many drug inserts (fine print) it says the MOA is unknown...
    Mechanism of action (MOA) refers to the specific biochemical interaction through which a drug substance produces its pharmacological effect. A mechanism of action usually includes mention of the specific molecular targets to which the drug binds, such as an enzyme or receptor.

    What "many drugs" specifically, do not have a listed MOA? Even aspirin has this. lmao

    ARE MOA's not required by the FDA and by the EMEA?

    Regulation of Combination Products by the FDA

    The impact of FDA and EMEA guidelines on drug development in relation to Phase 0 trials

    http://www.cbn-atl.org/documents/6-R_Medford.pdf

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    Let me ask you Karen, why have you chose to ignore this? I would like to see you comment on this.

    Dallas-Based Multi-Level Marketing Company Is in Hot Water With UT Board of Regents - Dallas News - Unfair Park

    Dallas-Based Multi-Level Marketing Company Is in Hot Water With UT Board of RegentsBy Robert Wilonsky, Thu., Nov. 19 2009 @ 8:36AM

    Back in January, a Dallas-based company that sells bottled water -- pardon, a "natural spring water ... created from all natural ingredients including extracts of alfalfa stems and leaves, milk whey and enzymes from pineapple and papaya" -- asked the University of Texas's M.D. Anderson Cancer Center if it wouldn't mind testing its magic potion. M.D. Anderson said sure ... for a price. Which is how Noel Road-based Evolv got M.D. Anderson to test the anti-inflammatory effects of its water -- specifically, the so-called "Archaea Active ingredients" that Evolv claims separate its water from, oh, regular water. Everyone agrees on that: Evolv (which is also known as HealtH20 or EvolvHealth), paid M.D. Anderson to test its some of its water, which, according to the hospital, ain't nothing but Houston tap water with some stuff in it.

    What happened next, though, is what leads us to this federal lawsuit filed in Houston this week.

    M.D. Anderson did its testing -- all very "preliminary" stuff, says the suit, and the cancer center never checked its "safety, efficacy, medicinal or beneficial health value." But Evolv -- which is a self-proclaimed "multi-level marketing company" that has the recruiting videos to prove it -- started running on its Web site statements like, "The Archaea Active formula has undergone in-vitro testing by The University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center out of Houston." Which, as far as M.D. Anderson is concerned, gives people the impression that the cancer center has endorsed the product.

    And so, at 11:31 a.m. on September 9, its communications director posted a blog item that said, "There seems to be buzz on the Internet about a type of water that a Dallas-based company is marketing and this water's relationship to M. D. Anderson. So we thought we'd un-muddy the water for our patients, employees and supporters. M. D. Anderson doesn't recommend the water."

    Two hours later, Evolv's chief marketing officer, Jonathan Gilliam, posted his response to M.D. Anderson's attempt at distancing from the bottled water: "MD Anderson and its employees do not endorse Evolv as they are precluded from endorsing any product using the MD Anderson name. Our test results are just that, and are not an endorsement or backing of M.D. Anderson. The Evolv management feels extremely blessed and fortunate that an institution the caliber of M.D. Anderson has tested our product."

    But after that, Evolv didn't stop touting the fact its water was merely tested by M.D. Anderson -- even though it paid for the testing and even though, according to M.D. Anderson's spokeperson, "no efficacy or toxicity data were generated at M. D. Anderson nor was the product tested on humans." Far as the UT Board of Regents is concerned, Evolv's doing nothing more than using M.D. Anderson's name and rep to build a "pyramid," which is why it's taking Evolv to court for trademark violation and trademark dilution and damages.
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    And finally Karen, any comments on this? I do expect a response back from you:

    The Power Of Seeing His Past: Trey White & Evolv Health


    If you are interested in knowing more about Trey White – aka Roscoe Frederick White III – it's a story well worth enjoying.

    In fact, the more that you know, the funnier it gets. I invite you to study all of the websites listed within this posting.

    The latest incarnation of Trey White The Business Guru is as the founder & CEO of EvolvHealth, a self-stated manufacturer and marketer of "neutraceutical" beverages.

    Here let's go to the Evolv website:

    "EvolvHealth, LLC is a direct sales company developed by a team of scientists in conjunction with seasoned entrepreneurs, marketers and direct sellers. The team is led by the Founder and Chairman, Mr. Trey White."

    Evolv's slick website and over-the-top videos promote White as a visionary leader of historical business accomplishments. The original pre-launch video found on YouTube from Evolv seems definitely intended for that purpose, as White trumpets that he is only "weeks away from launching the next billion dollar company in network marketing." And other early-stage videos still available on YouTube pretty much serve the same purpose.

    In these videos, White describes himself as "a businessperson and serial entrepreneur from Dallas, Texas." True enough.

    And he talks about his past achievements in the DotCom Era as well as within the nationwide ethanol industry. The pitch is assured and convincing.

    While never making the claim himself, it is fascinating that White repeatedly allows himself to be styled as a "billionaire" in Evolv-related videos. Search the term Trey White Evolv billionaire in either Google or YouTube and see what you find.

    Or just watch that video that you'll find on YouTube where Trey grins from ear to ear without any protest whatsoever as he is introduced as a "multi-billionaire.

    Indeed, at the website of his separate venture firm – White Ventures, with its welcome page grandeloquently brandishing the subtitle "The Power Of Seeing The Future" – White hyperinflates his professional accomplishment as follows:

    "Trey White, CEO

    "Mr. White is Chairman and CEO of White Ventures, Ltd., a private equity company headquartered in Dallas , Texas . White Ventures controls and manages over $200+ million in assets through White Ventures and its affiliates. The company holds controlling interests in companies within these industries: real estate property, real estate development, manufacturing, technology, oil and gas and renewable fuels. Mr. White is also committed to investing in the production of renewable fuel sources both domestically and on a global basis. White Ventures' philosophy is to invest in forward thinking solutions where technology will accelerate and create exponential benefits and new markets in global economies.

    "Mr. White funded and co-founded HomeBuilder.com, the nation's largest MLS system for new homes and the official web site of the National Association of Homebuilders. He took the company public in 1999 as HomeStore.com with a market capitalization of $3 billion. Prior to a secondary stock offering, HomeStore reached a market cap of $10 billion with $350 million in revenues in 250 markets employing 3,000 nationwide. Mr. White serves on boards of several corporations.

    Wow. Pretty cool stuff. Dynamic guy, right?

    But The Power Of Seeing The Future is only surpassed by The Power Of Seeing His Past.

    Check out that statement above taken from White Ventures website, where White claimed in regard to HomeBuilder.com that "[h]e took the company public in 1999 as HomeStore.com with a market capitalization of $3 billion."

    Those were White's words: and not anyone else's.

    The only problem with this hyperbole is that when you check the filings made with the Securities Exchange Commission relating to the 1999 initial public offering of Homestore.com, it becomes apparent that White had no such role.

    In fact, at http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...-00-000093.txt, one can review the final form of prospectus that was cleared by the SEC for circulation during 1999 for the marketing of the Homestore.com IPO: which document was required by law to essentially list every significant executive or stockholder of the Homestore firm involved in its going public process.

    The name "Trey White" (or any mention of White under any of his other aliases) doesn't appear anywhere in the document.

    (And in fact, when you run a search of this web document for the last name "White," the only reference point is a major stockholder of Homestore.com named "Fred. R. White, Jr." –- who is the FATHER of our own Frederick Roscoe "Trey" White III in question.)

    So maybe Trey was running his Daddy.

    Or maybe instead Trey was just running his mouth.

    But the one thing that Trey White wasn't running during 1999 was HomeStore.com, much less taking it public.

    Maybe White was hoping that no one would actually take the time to check out his personal history, including his claims to fame with Homestore.com. Or even with respect to his involvement with "the fourth largest ethanol producer in North America."

    What ever happened to that ethanol producer? Just before the founding of EvolvHealth, during 2009, a Dallas Business Journal article makes clear what happened to that ethanol producer:

    "Friday, May 15, 2009

    "White Energy is latest ethanol refiner to file Chapter 11

    "Dallas Business Journal - by Chad Eric Watt, Staff writer

    "A Dallas-based ethanol business with three refineries has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection after its lenders said it defaulted on its main credit facility. White Energy Inc. operates three ethanol refineries: in Hereford and Plainview, Texas and in Russell, Kan. It is one of the 10 largest ethanol producers in the country and the No. 2 producer of gluten for food companies in the country. White produced $500 million in revenue in 2008, according to its bankruptcy filings."

    Strange that Trey doesn't tell you about this development when touting his involvement with the "fourth largest ethanol producer in North America."

    Now go back and listen to this video found at YouTube - EvolvHealth - Billionaire Founder Trey White on the roots of Evolv. At the 2:50 mark of this clip, White emphatically talks about "my track record of building multi-billion dollar companies [and] taking companies public.

    What track record?

    With what "multi-billion dollar companies" has Trey White been involved? And what companies has Trey White taken public?

    And has Trey White ever served any role with a multi-billion dollar public company?

    We know about Homestore.com as well as White Energy. But note White's claim to have started a number of companies during the course of his career as "a serial entrepreneur."

    Surprisingly, the claim is true enough. Indeed, let's look at some of Trey's other initiatives over the past decade since his supposed leadership of Homestore.com.

    For example, Trey hasn't in recent years notably mentioned his involvement as the founder of Bridgeport Power, an electricity retailer in the Texas deregulated energy market that went defunct after a couple years of operations, leaving its customers stranded.

    And Trey also doesn't much talk about Marlin Atlantis anymore and its series of planned residential community developments in Texas. Click on some of the webpages tfound at Real Estate Developer :: Marlin Atlantis :: Marlin Atlantis Developments hat are supposedly maintained by Marlin Atlantis for its communities in supposed development -- such as Cross Oak Ranch or Esperanza Bourne -- to get a sense as to why Trey doesn't talk about these dormant efforts.

    And what else does Trey White not talk about?

    The fact that, given applicable securities laws, Trey White could not have served as a Director or senior executive of a publicly-traded company.

    In fact, Trey White can't even vote!

    Why? Because Trey White is a convicted felon.

    Indeed, White was convicted during 1988 under Texas criminal law in respect of a felony charge (Charge Number F-8588654) of Possession Of A Controlled Substance in Dallas County, Texas, with the judicial disposition of that offense on February 19, 1988. (For those interested in digging further, the TRS Entry ID Number of the case 7432423 and the Court Entry Status ID Number is 2798735.)

    And now this former-druggie-turned-self-claimed-business-giant is selling "neutraceuticals?"

    Beyond the drug charges, Trey's bio ignores the other conviction on White's record involving a Class A Misdemeanor Assault To Cause Bodily Injury (Charge Number 964311301010) that was finalized roughly a decade later on February 7, 1997. (The TRS Entry ID Number of the case 7432424 and the Tracking incident Number used by state law enforcement is 9002966768.)

    That's the hard factual reality about Trey White. Despite what he the Evolv leadership would like for you to blindly believe, Trey White is no billionaire.

    Instead, Trey White is instead a convicted felon who is a careerist promoter of his own hyperinflated business accomplishments.

    Retrieved from "http://www.articlesbase.com/business-opportunities-articles/the-power-of-seeing-his-past-billionaire-trey-white-evolv-3251286.html"

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    ALA,

    Awesome info. I had to laugh when I read about Phase 0 clinical trials. It mentioned microdosing. As the label of the "zero water" shows it has nothing in it I think the microdosing tests are already underway by default.

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    Forging ahead through the mine field....
    One at a time please, some of us have jobs.

    regarding hydration littleroundman:

    With the greatest respect, Karen, WRT to the majority of your evidence, not only is it not right, it's not even wrong.

    For your own education, do a quick Google on "avoid jet lag dehydration"

    The first answer includes the information:

    Drinking fluids The dry air in aircraft causes dehydration. Drinking plenty of non-alcoholic fluids counters this. Water is better than coffee, tea and fruit juices. Alcohol not only is useless in combating dehydration, but has a markedly greater intoxicating effect when drunk in the rarefied atmosphere of an airliner than it does at ground level.
    the second answer says:

    The best solution to avoid jet lag is to drink lot of water.
    To the uninformed, it may APPEAR drinking Evolv aided you to avoid jet lag, however, most experts agree drinking plain water is what does the trick.

    ***** ****
    Your point would be well-taken EXCEPT for the fact that I said it was MY experience and the ONLY thing different on the last 2 trips was Evolv. I drink a lot of water anyway, so your point is not true in MY experience... As I thought I said...

    I realize y'all are here enjoying this and I'm truly happy to answer questions if honestly asked. But if you are just here to make yourselves feel better, then I'm not going to waste my time.

    I WILL go through them one by one and try to answer them.

    signed,
    the Shrill Shill

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    A life aloft:

    "1b) uh no, I'm from Houston. I know all 3 inventors, though Mr. Kaiser has passed away now. If you took a moment to read the link I sent, you would discover that he lived much, much longer than anyone expected. He, and others, attributed this to "the water"...
    In case you are interested... YouTube - Dr Jay Collins interview"

    Where in this video does it state anything about Mr. Kaiser in regards to him living any longer than normal? What was the point of this video, as it has nothing to do with what you have stated?

    What did he die of specifically? Do you have the actual research in terms of life expectancy of those who have/had whatever he had? What exactly are you basing your statements on? Opinion or fact? Please state the specifics as I will research this and post the facts here.

    As for your claims regarding Evolv and jet lag, how do you imagine that hundreds of thousands of flight crews have managed to fly internationally and often at night, safely for decades and have survived this without drinking evolv?

    ***** *******

    The link to which I was referring was About - Archaea Active

    You will see he was on the Orca. There is where you can begin your research.
    I'm basing some of my conclusions upon information from personal conversations with Mr. Kaiser himself.

    The point of the video is that Dr. Collins describes how Archaea Active began. Nothing more.
    I thought perhaps y'all would be interested in that.
    Silly me.

    Again with the jet lag.
    I SAID...

    "In October last year I took an int'l trip and had zero jet lag either direction, for the first time in my life. Usually I struggle for several days upon arrival there and I'm wiped out for a couple of weeks, or more, on the return.
    Not so now.
    It was unreal (for me).
    And this happened for a second time this summer (int'l trip, no jet lag).
    Astounding."

    **** ******

    Notice - copious use of "I" and "me" throughout...
    Did I say a word about flight crews? No matter what time of day they fly?
    Did I suggest anyone else would have this same result?
    Maybe that's in the invisible ink between the lines...
    That must be it...

    *** *****
    Bunch of charlatan crackpots...

    United States Patent: 6201050

    United States Patent: 5561059

    United States Patent: 6448317

    United States Patent: 6528563

    United States Patent: 6533850

    United States Patent: 6641650

    United States Patent: 7004950

    There are more. Look yourselves.

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    Hi Undercover Brother,
    thanks...

    ***** ******

    UB: Sorry it took me so long to answer. I had to look up efficacious.

    ****


    Maybe we'll both learn something in this exchange...

    *****

    UB: Since you only want to focus on the product side, I will address that, however, you said you became a distributor as far back as October last year, which makes you one of the first, but I'm not into tripping you up on your own words.

    *** *****

    Glad to hear it.
    Might be difficult since I'm telling the truth.
    I SAID I was part of the "guinea pig brigade", long, long, LONG before Trey White entered the mix. I've never met him, don't know him, know very little about him.
    I wholeheartedly believe in the product.

    ***** *****

    UB: One thing that is unbelievable in your/their story is that you "the healthy sort" and a scientist would put something in your body for as many as 10 years, without it being properly researched, tested, approved by the FDA, etc.?

    **** *****
    You don't know too many scientists and you put a lot of faith into the FDA that I don't share.
    The fallacy in your argument is in assuming things were not "properly researched"... OR is dependent upon your definition of "properly"... Dr. Jekyll and Spiderman notwithstanding.

    The 3 inventors have a tremendous scientific background, plus they have BRILLIANT, CREATIVE minds.

    **** ******

    UB: Tell you what. If you and your researcher friend, who is a fan of this site, can answer any of these three questions...I will go away.

    1.) Is the Archea Active TM created in a lab and sent to Arkansas for mixing, or is the independent contract bottler creating it and mixing it at the shop? In either case, are the scientists supervising the mixing process at the Arkansas plant?

    *** ***

    It is my understanding that they oversaw the set up and just like Coca Cola for example, trained staff is handling production.

    *** ***

    UB: 2.) If there is any science to this product, can you point to one respected media outlet (other than the local news fluff piece from a year ago) that covers the science. It seems to me that this formula, if its helping stroke victims and curing Jet Lag, would at least have an article in the Sky Mall magazine.

    ***** ****
    Have you ever TRIED to get published in SkyMall? (smile)
    Is media informed about science?
    News *ahem* to me.
    We need scientists who know science, right?
    I posted the info from Futureceuticals earlier...

    Testing is ongoing.

    *****

    UB: 3.) Were you guys in some laboratory 10 years ago injecting yourselves with Archae Active TM, and then testing your powers? Didn't you see what happened to the Green Lantern in Spiderman when he tested his formula before it was ready for public consumption..or the Hulk? Haven't we witnessed enough of this rogue science?

    **** ****

    The product was consumed, not injected... Thought I said that...

    **** ****

    UB: Thank you for taking the time to read this response and to give it some careful thought. I hope my post was efficacious in getting you to consider how silly your testimony sounds.

    UB

    **** *****
    I apologize if my testimony sounds silly.
    It's mine. I posted it thinking I could get a reasonably fair reading.
    Alas.
    No apparently.

    signed,
    the Silly Shill
    Last edited by Karen; 10-22-2010 at 05:42 PM.

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    Hi Soapboxmom,
    Thanks again for welcoming me.

    ***** *****

    SBM: Karen,

    Welcome to the forum.

    If the product was really earth shattering I would expect the big pharmaceuticals to be fighting over it and very anxious to test it.

    *** ***

    Ever heard of NIHS?
    (not invented here syndrome)

    *** ***
    SBM: It would be worth a fortune if it did a fraction of what the reps trying to peddle it claim it does. The problem is that tons of anecdotal evidence / wild testimonials making a myriad of claims does not equal scientific proof. I am waiting for double blind clinical studies and university studies.

    **** ******
    Understood.
    I don't know about what all the reps claim.
    I make sure I say what I know to be true. I cannot be responsible for what others say or do.
    If they are making ridiculous claims, then it will be found out and lampooned on sites such as this.
    I'm sorry if y'all have been hurt or misled.
    That's why I am taking the time to be here and post...
    I AM doing my best to answer (going to one of your points) and trying to clarify.
    I will tell you what I know, and if I don't know, I'll say that too.

    If you have priced the testing you are discussing, you will then understand some things. These tests are EXTREMELY expensive. So - testing is being done incrementally. Those of us who have been part of the GPB have found it made a difference or we wouldn't have kept drinking it.

    ***** ****

    SBM: The second and very obvious problem is the marketing method. To be blunt the MLM industry is filled with liars, frauds and con artist. Because of the compensation plan structure and independent nature of the reps, they have every incentive to run their "business" in a less than ethical manner and Trey can simply shake his head and blame these independent contractors. He himself has obviously grossly overstated his own business accomplishments and paraded himself like a complete buffoon on video as a multi-billionaire. Who would want any association with that?

    **** ******
    Well...
    All I can say to this is to answer what was probably meant to be rhetorical.
    Repeat: Because I believe in the product.

    ***** ****

    SBM: Check out the reps for this thing past and present and you will be horrified. Please look for an e-mail from me concerning one of the latest defectors and you will see what I mean. Your input is greatly appreciated. We want all viewpoints and both sides of the story.

    *** ***
    I believe in the product itself.
    I don't know what else to say.
    The product is only available this way, so that is how I purchase it.

    Karen

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    Life Aloft

    one more thing
    you said: Crews are allowed rest times during long flights and the air is the cockpit is "fresher" do to it's specific design, which is done purposely so that the flight deck crew is breathing fresher and more oxygenated air and can stay alert.

    **** *******

    Yes - and if you read the report, Archaea Active increases oxygen uptake.

    Karen

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    Life Aloft

    you got me!!!

    ****** *****

    LA: What "many drugs" specifically, do not have a listed MOA? Even aspirin has this. lmao

    ***** *****
    I spoke to a pharmacological expert, in the field for over 50 years, and that is what he told me. I apologize that I trusted his word and didn't get a lengthy listing.

    Signed,
    the Silly Shill

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    Busy Life Aloft,

    you said: Let me ask you Karen, why have you chose to ignore this? I would like to see you comment on this.

    **** *****

    Thank you for your graciousness...

    Some of us have jobs. Be a teeny patient, ok???

    It is my understanding the MDACC did, in fact, indisputably, do the testing.
    Mr. Wilonsky quite obviously has some sort of axe to grind.

    I posted this about Mr. Newman earlier: Nationally-recognized cancer researcher to advise Health2o Products - Archaea Active
    a portion of which (again) states: DALLAS, TX (December 7, 2009)—Dr. Robert Newman, a renowned medical researcher and Professor Emeritus at The University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, has agreed to consult with Health2o Products, LLC in regards to further testing of its Archaea Active™ formula. Dr. Newman, currently Chief Science Officer (CSO) at a major New England nutraceutical company, will advise on future testing procedures and review and analyze test results from outside independent labs selected by Health2o.

    Dr. Newman’s career has been dedicated to the development of novel therapeutic strategies to improve the quality of life for patients with inflammatory and malignant diseases. His research efforts are nationally-recognized, and have been accomplished through several scientific disciplines, including pharmacology, analytical chemistry, drug development and clinical pharmacology. His work has resulted in more than 300 peer-reviewed publications.

    Dr. Newman recently retired from M.D. Anderson, following a 24-year career there and over 30 years in academic medicine. At M.D. Anderson, he served as the Founder and Co-Director of the Pharmaceutical Development Center.

    **** ****

    Why don't you get an update from MDACC and see what they say?

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    My new buddy A Life Aloft:

    you said: And finally Karen, any comments on this? I do expect a response back from you:

    **** ******
    As I said earlier, I don't know Trey White.
    I've been familiar with the product for about a decade.

    I believe in the product. Family, friends and acquaintances believe in the product... Long before "Evolv" came into existance.

    Karen

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    SBM,
    Please clarify these comments so that I may address them.
    I'm stupid.
    Use little words...
    Karen

    ****** ******
    As the label of the "zero water" shows it has nothing in it I think the microdosing tests are already underway by default.

    Soapboxmom

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    Karen,

    The patents are for mostly materials for construction related things and one was an agent for bioremediation. Well, my homemade pie crusts are so unique I could probably patent them as a bullet proof substance more useful than Kevlar at stopping bullets, but I digress. Those patents do not suggest that these inventors have qualifications in the medical field that would be relevant to the myriad of claims for the Evolv product. And, the acid test is the interest of mainstream medicine and big Pharma. That interest level appears to be zero. Mainstream media and press are also similarly unimpressed.

    The fact boatloads of MLMers who are experienced "heavy hitters" are dropping like flies tells me they are not reaping earth shattering medical benefits from the product and most in fact are not making money. Likely 97% of the poor slobs in this towering pyramid are losing money and not even able to simply cover their own product purchases as typically happens in these deals. The "heavy hitters" jump and dump when the gravy train dries up and I think this Titanic 'tis taking on water very fast.

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