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Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center
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littleroundman
I hear that if you pour 58 bottles of Treys' water and some Tide liquid laundry detergent into a Fisher and Paykel, Evolv does a reasonable, if somewhat expensive, job of cleaning clothes.
Other than that...............who knows ???
Yeah, and if you dilute it 100 to 1 you can water plants with it....'course if you leave it out you can still water plants...!
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Cprime touchdown - YouTube
In this video, Evolver tells us that his 11 year old is wearing a cprime around his ankle, which allows him to jump higher than the other kids.
I guess if he claimed cprime made his kid six-inches taller than the other kids, he might lose credibility????
UB
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he might lose credibility????
"Evolver" and "credibility" in the same sentence ???
Isn't that what's called an "oxymoron" ???
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With the Dallas convention looming, get ready to see a bunch more "before/after" pictures touting the wonders of Evolv Shakes. Ken's have leaked, and they are hilarious. He claims his before picture was taken in late November. Doesn't he remember posting pictures of his Caribbean trip from Early November? Some of the vacation pictures show a skinny Ken. He may have had a few lbs. to shed, but certainly not as many as his "before" picture would lead you to believe. Maybe he watched this video, and got a few pointers on how to scam the masses.
Before and After Pics in Advertising – Exposed! [Video] | WebProNews
As for the prize money awarded from the downline's pockets to the Evolver with the most dramatic body transformation, I think Trey would be crazy to award Larry the prize for the third time. Look for a "win" from either Mike or Ken.
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Here are Ken's Before/Before/After pictures...
The first picture is from November, 2011. The second he claims is from late November, 2011, when he starts his E84 challenge, and the last is his "after" picture. Judge for yourself how far these guys will go to convince you their system helps weight loss.
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They need to step away from the photoshop.
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Whip
They need to step away from the photoshop.
I didn't believe it was possible to be more dishonest than Spencer and Ken, but Mike has proved me wrong. Here are his before/before/after pictures. The first before is during last summer's E84 challenge. Then I guess he transformed into the before picture he took 84 days ago? Maybe he had an accident and was depressed for a few months, causing him to lose his definition, eh Spence? Or maybe winning $10,000 from the Evolv downline is worth the white-lie? Sleep tight, Mike, I'm sure Shanna is proud of you taking her money.
UB
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HAHAHAHA!!! I think Mikey needs a wee bit more Pam for those shots. Where is that healthfully glistening skin?
Soapboxmom
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Undercover Brother
Now, clearly the picture of the body on the right is enlarged over the one on the left. So how can both 'bodies' have nearly the exact same dimensions? If you measure from the bottom of the 'V' at the base of the thumb to the top of the shoulder, they are nearly identical.
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Whip
Now, clearly the picture of the body on the right is enlarged over the one on the left. So how can both 'bodies' have nearly the exact same dimensions? If you measure from the bottom of the 'V' at the base of the thumb to the top of the shoulder, they are nearly identical.
As well as employing the techniques exposed in the video I posted above: Shocking Before and After Transformation in 5 Hours - EXPOSED! - YouTube several other tricks have been used.
* In the picture on the right, the subject is standing closer to the camera, making him appear "larger"
* As well as using correct lighting/lights in the picture on the right, the lighting on the left hand picture is from below and to the right of screen, casting shadows behind the subject to the left of screen, adding further to the illusion.
It's not for nothing professional bodybuilders and models employ expert photographers.
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littleroundman
As well as employing the techniques exposed in the video I posted above:
Shocking Before and After Transformation in 5 Hours - EXPOSED! - YouTube several other tricks have been used.
* In the picture on the right, the subject is standing closer to the camera, making him appear "larger"
* As well as using correct lighting/lights in the picture on the right, the lighting on the left hand picture is from below and to the right of screen, casting shadows behind the subject to the left of screen, adding further to the illusion.
It's not for nothing professional bodybuilders and models employ expert photographers.
Oh. I didn't watch it as I assumed it was about the post above yours and specifically exposing 'Ken'. Didn't realize it was a how-to video.
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Two days until Evolv's convention. I wonder how much time will be spent on cprime? I'm sure their product is nothing like the other bracelets in the marketplace; you know, the ones that have already been proven frauds. Watch the whole video if you truly want the answer to "I don't know how it works, I just know it does for me"
Applied Kinesiology - How it's Done - YouTube
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Whip
Oh. I didn't watch it as I assumed it was about the post above yours and specifically exposing 'Ken'. Didn't realize it was a how-to video.
There are lots of tricks other than those shown in the video that can be used if the intent is to deceive, as is the case with Evolv.
The effects shown in the Shocking Before and After Transformation in 5 Hours - EXPOSED! - YouTube video above were accomplished in only 5 hours, imagine what could be done in 6 weeks if the sole intention was to deceive and sell product.
* take the "before" shot after the "after" shot
IOW, train, diet and prepare for 6 weeks, or even 6 months, get yourself photographed, label the shot "AFTER" then spend another 6 weeks purposely letting yourself go, then have the "BEFORE" shot taken.
That's why legitimate "before and after" competitions require photos to feature a current magazine or newspaper showing the date in each shot.
* deprive yourself of fluid for 2 or 3 days and then taking diuretic tablets before the "after" shot increases the vascular look.
Sticking to an extremely high protein/low carbohydrate diet for 3 or 4 days prior to going before the cameras, then carbo loading 3 or 4 hours before being filmed enhances the muscularity.
* taking the "after" shot from lower flattens out the subject.
* using a specifically formulated oil instead of "Pam" makes the subject appear to "glow" rather than "glisten"
* ditto with using a specifically formulated fake tan designed to work best under photographic lights.
* anyone used to training their abdominal region can develop the ability to force the abdominals "out" further than they can be sucked "in"
IOW, they can turn a 32" waist measurement into a 38" or 40" measurement at will.
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LRM,
Awesome breakdown. Mike's pictures are simple. In his before picture, Mike tucked his elbows in, to hide his lats, stuck out his stomach, and put on a pouty face.
An ethically dishonest attempt to win $10,000 of the down-line's money and ultimately, to sign up new victims. The bottom line is Trey doesn't care who may have had the most "honest" body transformation. The money will go to the person whose pictures have the most potential to signing up future Evolvers.
UB
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LRM,
Awesome breakdown. Mike's pictures are simple. In his before picture, Mike tucked his elbows in, to hide his lats, stuck out his stomach, and put on a pouty face.
An ethically dishonest attempt to win $10,000 of the down-line's money and ultimately, to sign up new victims. The bottom line is Trey doesn't care who may have had the most "honest" body transformation. In my opinion, the money will go to the person whose pictures have the most potential to sign up future Evolvers.
UB
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Undercover Brother
In my opinion, the money will go to the person whose pictures have the most potential to sign up future Evolvers.
Props to Trey. Out of the 4 winners, I had only heard of Nikki. I applaud them for not awarding money to photo frauds; Ken, Cam, or Mike. A word of advice however; save those winnings. Spencer, who won $10,000 only 90 days ago, was looking for a roommate at this convention. I think he is finding out how quickly that money goes to autoship, training tickets, support materials, and now the magic bracelets. It reminds me of a casino...they know they have to pay out every once in awhile, to keep people's hopes up, but they also know the strong possibilities that those "winnings" will be returning to their rightful home, in the casino's cage.
I believe the expenses finally got to Shanna, who has dropped out of Evolv. Here was a person who bought into this company 100%, stretched the truth regarding the products, supported all the training and seminars, and still couldn't make it work. If people like her and Jack can't make a buck, doing the program exactly as it is laid out for them, what hope is there for the average MLMer?
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Has anyone listened to favorite Ex-Evolver Robert Dean explain why he has jumped and dumped so many times? It is posted on Troy's MLM Help Desk site.
As to why he left Evolv: "supposed millionaire"
As to why he left ViSalus: "because Nick brings his dog to Regional Meetings"
AWESOME!!!!
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It is posted on Troy's MLM Help Desk site.
It's on Troy Dooleys' site ???
So, we can assume whatever was said isn't true, then ???
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littleroundman
It's on Troy Dooleys' site ???
So, we can assume whatever was said isn't true, then ???
It is here. Just scroll down the the blue square and choose Robert Dean on Evolv. Please have the barf bag ready!
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Attachment 182
It appears our multi-million dollar earner (or likely not!!!!) has been drinking more than just the Evolv zero water.
Register of Actions
Case No. CR-2010-03536-E
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You will find a lot of husband/wife, boyfriend/girlfriend, or sadly mom/son teams in Multi-Level Marketing. Infer what you want about how these people are attracted to each other. I believe it is a cost saving way to get the autoship in half, and double the effort in recruiting. Where the "big lie" comes into play, is if they tell you their income potential, and make believe it is for the individual, and not the team.
Therefore, if a distributor from a husband/wife team tells you he is making $5,000 per month, please note two important possibilities:
1.) That dollar amount is likely exaggerated. This amount doesn't include taxes, cost of doing business, or health care. Not to mention, it is gross income.
2.) This is divided amongst two people. $60,000 per year quickly turns to $30,000.
Another question concerns that awful autoship. Most of these sales pitches tell you that you need two bottles a day, or one pill, or a good slathering of gel to cure your ailment. The number of doses they determined, usually match up with a single persons "needs" for a month. If your recruiter is splitting this autoship with his business partner, then ask yourself if he really believes the doses he is pitching. I think you will find that he is just selling the opportunity, which is what he hopes you will do as well.
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Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center
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Originally Posted by
Soapboxmom
It appears our multi-million dollar earner (or likely not!!!!) has been drinking more than just the Evolv zero water.
Perhaps he was trying to boost it's effectiveness with a little too much Scotch....?
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Evolv Water scammer behind failed Texas theme park
Trey White was also behind this failed "green" amusement park in Texas that continues to profit off taxpayers money even though it only exists on paper.
Fantasy Land - Page 1 - News - Houston - Houston Press
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Welcome to the forum!
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EVOLV HEALTH, LLC
13455 NOEL RD STE 2300
DALLAS, TX 75240-1534 |
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BRENT HICKS
13455 NOEL RD., STE. 2300
DALLAS, TX 75240 |
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BRENT HICKS
4311 VALLEY RIDGE
DALLAS , TX 75220 |
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JOHN MARLIN
13455 NOEL ROAD, SUITE 2300
DALLAS , TX 75240 |
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ROSCOE F WHITE III
13455 NOEL ROAD, SUITE 2300
DALLAS , TX 75240 |
http://www.realscam.com/f11/trey-whi....html#post9344
http://www.realscam.com/f11/trey-whi...html#post19941
White and Marlin are tangled up a a whole slew of LLCs together. Trey White and his ilk are nothing but liars and frauds. Notice in the second link that John Marlin asked for a loan to pay the nut on the land loan for the proposed Earthquest property in 2011. The 2009 bond money, which is taxpayer dollars to repay, was used to pay the bank for money due from 2007-2008 I believe. The taxpayers were paying on land that Marlin and White couldn't afford to hang on to. Trey White is no multi-billionaire. As they couldn't even pay the nut on the property for Earthquest he must be in poor financial shape. That video from Trey's home where he assures the Evolv prospects that he is putting all his assets behind them is a huge pile of BS. Talk about shoveling it high and deep!
The MLM industry is loaded with liars and con artists. Case in point here. Probable Paupers disguising themselves as multi-billionaires! :pou:
Soapboxmom