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    8 38.10%
  • Evolv will prevail in court

    1 4.76%
  • Evolv, sinking under negative publicity, will beg for a secret settlement

    3 14.29%
  • Evolv will in fact cure cancer and totally shake up the medical community

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    Hi ALA

    You said: Bull puckey part four. You really are on a role.

    ***** ****
    No, I just play one on TV...

    ***** ******
    You said: Double blind studies conducted by a legit entities and research conducted by a legit entities are. Spare us the b.s.

    **** ****
    Testing is ongoing.
    If research by MDACC and Futureceuticals (and perhaps others, I don't know),
    *Did you even read the info about Dr. Newman?*
    aren't good enough for ya, well...
    Okay then.

    If you find it worthless crap, bully for you! Don't buy or drink it.
    I find it worthwhile, so I do.

    Why does this upset you so?
    It's a mystery...

    Karen

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    LittleRoundMan

    You can lose the "Karen" and just say Karen.
    I don't need to hide behind a moniker.
    And my shovel is quite clean, thanks for asking.



    Here are a brief few references about Archaea, since you are interested in some research.

    References
    1. ^ Blum P (editor). (2008). Archaea: New Models for Prokaryotic Biology. Caister Academic Press. ISBN 978-1-904455-27-1 ].
    2. ^ O'Connor EM, Shand RF (2002). "Halocins and sulfolobicins: the emerging story of archaeal protein and peptide antibiotics". J. Ind. Microbiol. Biotechnol. 28 (1): 23–31. doi:10.1038/sj/jim/7000190. PMID 11938468. SpringerLink - Journal of Industrial Microbiology & Biotechnology.
    3. ^ Pete Polsgrove, Amy Fleishman Littlejohn, Barry Roberts and Richard F. Shand, Northern Arizona University (June 4th and 5th, 2005). "Wilson Hot Springs - A Desert Hypersaline Salt Marsh Research Site". http://www4.nau.edu/wilsonhotsprings/WHSPrelimRpt.doc.
    4. ^ a b c d Shand RF; Leyva KJ (2008). "Archaeal Antimicrobials: An Undiscovered Country". Archaea: New Models for Prokaryotic Biology. Caister Academic Press. ISBN 978-1-904455-27-1.
    5. ^ Price LB, Shand RF (2000). "Halocin S8: a 36-amino-acid microhalocin from the haloarchaeal strain S8a". J. Bacteriol. 182 (17): 4951–8. doi:10.1128/JB.182.17.4951-4958.2000. PMID 10940040. Halocin S8: a 36-Amino-Acid Microhalocin from the Haloarchaeal Strain S8a -- Price and Shand 182 (17): 4951 -- The Journal of Bacteriology.
    6. ^ Cheung J, Danna KJ, O'Connor EM, Price LB, Shand RF (1997). "Isolation, sequence, and expression of the gene encoding halocin H4, a bacteriocin from the halophilic archaeon Haloferax mediterranei R4". J. Bacteriol. 179 (2): 548–51. PMID 8990311. Isolation, sequence, and expression of the gene encoding halocin H4, a bacteriocin from the halophilic archaeon Haloferax mediterranei R4 -- Cheung et al. 179 (2): 548 -- The Journal of Bacteriology.

    Still really... just... Karen

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    LRM post 313,

    Hi LRM,

    1, 2
    sigh. I. will. repeat. slowly.
    I. am. not. here. to. discuss. Trey. White. or. MLM.
    I'm here to talk about the product itself and the inventors, as I said from the get-go.
    Your bait is tasteless.
    3 - did you read the MDACC info OR the Futureceutical info? What did you conclude?
    4 - wrong
    5 - wrong again
    6 - wrong AGAIN
    7 - why not ask them for an update?
    8 - trend alert! wrong again
    9 - we might, perhaps, have a civil discussion here, but it seems you are not in the mood.
    10 - don't know, don't care

    I am truly sorry it irritates you that I do believe in the product, yet don't believe in Bigfoot and am not a card-carrying member of the flat earth society. (Though it did make me chuckle. Thanks! )

    We live in a relatively free country and you're not forced to partake, though if the inventors are conscripted to advise Obamacare, you might be. (It's a JOKE! Lighten up!!)
    I didn't attempt to recruit anyone here, nor did I share information on how to "join".

    (Perhaps that is in the invisible ink.
    Pesky ink.)

    You are convinced Evolv is a scam.
    I GET IT!

    Flat earth to big foot (though I wear an 8)
    I'm convinced!
    You are convinced it's a scam!!!!

    I'm a person who has personally experienced the product and shared my thoughts.
    You have apparently found this threatening.
    SBM welcomed me here but perhaps that was a ruse.
    I don't know.

    Have any of you tried it?
    If you don't care to, fine.
    I'm just asking.

    Who on this forum has tried the product?
    If you did, what did you find?

    Just asking.
    Research, you know...

    Karen
    no quotes.

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Now I'm really confused.

    The title of this thread is:

    "Trey Whites' Evolv Water vs World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center" and the opening post of the thread includes an extract from the Motion for Expedited Discovery submitted to the court.

    Said extract reads:

    Defendant HealtH20 Products, LLC ("HealtH20") contracted with M. D. Anderson to conduct limited in vitro testing of an "enhanced" water beverage comprised of HealtH20's purported Archaea Active formula and City of Houston tap water. (See Declaration of William Hagans attached hereto ("Hagans Decl."), ¶3, Ex. A). Such testing was limited to testing the potential anti-inflammatory properties of the water beverage as provided to M. D. Anderson (inflammation is known to be an issue faced by cancer patients). Id. Indeed, the testing conducted at M. D. Anderson was so limited and preliminary in nature that it rendered inconclusive results—the tests showed that the beverage, as tested by M. D. Anderson, may have some anti-inflammatory properties, but also, that the beverage may act as an inflammatory enhancer. Id. The report generated by M. D. Anderson specifically stated that further testing would need to be conducted. Id.

    Despite the limited and preliminary nature of the testing conducted at M. D. Anderson, Defendants have been claiming that what they, and their cadre of pyramid-based sales people are selling under the brand name Evolv, is, among other things, "backed by research" conducted at M. D. Anderson. (Hagans Decl., ¶4, Ex. B.). These statements are false for at least two unequivocal reasons: (1) Defendants, by their own admission, are not selling the product as tested by M. D. Anderson—M. D. Anderson tested the purported Archaea Active formula as combined with City of Houston tap water, whereas in their Answers to Plaintiff's Complaint, both Defendants claim that the product they are selling is not combined with City of Houston tap water; and (2) any testing conducted by M. D. Anderson was not comprehensive or for that matter, conclusive, as Defendants would have the public believe. (Compare Hagans Decl., ¶3, Ex. A with Defendant Evolv's Answer, Doc. #14, and Defendant HealtH20's Answer and Counterclaims, Doc. #13).

    Plaintiff has gathered substantial evidence of Defendants' unlawful use of Plaintiff's M. D. ANDERSON Marks, including video obtained from such well-known Web sites as YouTube. However, Plaintiff has learned that several of those videos have been removed. (Hagans Decl., ¶5.) Plaintiff believes that Defendants may be responsible for the removal of such videos and that Defendants may be in the process of destroying those videos and other evidence relevant to Plaintiff's trademark infringement and related claims.
    Now "Karen" is suggesting that she considers that MD Anderson Cancer Center research in some way gives credibility to Evolv and/or Archaea Active.

    The MDACC motion states quite clearly:

    Defendants, by their own admission, are not selling the product as tested by M. D. Anderson—M. D. Anderson tested the purported Archaea Active formula as combined with City of Houston tap water, whereas in their Answers to Plaintiff's Complaint, both Defendants claim that the product they are selling is not combined with City of Houston tap water; and (2) any testing conducted by M. D. Anderson was not comprehensive or for that matter, conclusive, as Defendants would have the public believe. (Compare Hagans Decl., ¶3, Ex. A with Defendant Evolv's Answer, Doc. #14, and Defendant HealtH20's Answer and Counterclaims, Doc. #13).

    Indeed, the testing conducted at M. D. Anderson was so limited and preliminary in nature that it rendered inconclusive results—the tests showed that the beverage, as tested by M. D. Anderson, may have some anti-inflammatory properties, but also, that the beverage may act as an inflammatory enhancer. Id. The report generated by M. D. Anderson specifically stated that further testing would need to be conducted
    Right, so we research what MDACC says, as "Karen" suggests, and it in no way supports "Karens" argument.

    In fact, it disproves what she is claiming almost entirely.

    Is it any wonder confusion reigns ???
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    LittleRoundMan

    You can lose the "Karen" and just say Karen.
    I don't need to hide behind a moniker.
    And my shovel is quite clean, thanks for asking.



    Here are a brief few references about Archaea, since you are interested in some research.

    References
    1. ^ Blum P (editor). (2008). Archaea: New Models for Prokaryotic Biology. Caister Academic Press. ISBN 978-1-904455-27-1 ].
    2. ^ O'Connor EM, Shand RF (2002). "Halocins and sulfolobicins: the emerging story of archaeal protein and peptide antibiotics". J. Ind. Microbiol. Biotechnol. 28 (1): 23–31. doi:10.1038/sj/jim/7000190. PMID 11938468. SpringerLink - Journal of Industrial Microbiology & Biotechnology.
    3. ^ Pete Polsgrove, Amy Fleishman Littlejohn, Barry Roberts and Richard F. Shand, Northern Arizona University (June 4th and 5th, 2005). "Wilson Hot Springs - A Desert Hypersaline Salt Marsh Research Site". http://www4.nau.edu/wilsonhotsprings/WHSPrelimRpt.doc.
    4. ^ a b c d Shand RF; Leyva KJ (2008). "Archaeal Antimicrobials: An Undiscovered Country". Archaea: New Models for Prokaryotic Biology. Caister Academic Press. ISBN 978-1-904455-27-1.
    5. ^ Price LB, Shand RF (2000). "Halocin S8: a 36-amino-acid microhalocin from the haloarchaeal strain S8a". J. Bacteriol. 182 (17): 4951–8. doi:10.1128/JB.182.17.4951-4958.2000. PMID 10940040. Halocin S8: a 36-Amino-Acid Microhalocin from the Haloarchaeal Strain S8a -- Price and Shand 182 (17): 4951 -- The Journal of Bacteriology.
    6. ^ Cheung J, Danna KJ, O'Connor EM, Price LB, Shand RF (1997). "Isolation, sequence, and expression of the gene encoding halocin H4, a bacteriocin from the halophilic archaeon Haloferax mediterranei R4". J. Bacteriol. 179 (2): 548–51. PMID 8990311. Isolation, sequence, and expression of the gene encoding halocin H4, a bacteriocin from the halophilic archaeon Haloferax mediterranei R4 -- Cheung et al. 179 (2): 548 -- The Journal of Bacteriology.

    Still really... just... Karen
    C'mon, "Karen"

    now I know you're just bullshitting.

    You really don't have a bloody clue what you're talking about, do you ???

    Here's a tip for you:

    Just because you can Google up some research topics which contain the word "archaea" does NOT mean the same thing as research into a commercially named product called "Archaea Active"

    For chrissakes, the "archaea" in the research papers you quoted are single cell microorganisms, NOT some crap supposedly dissolved in water.

    What a nonsense.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Funny that Dr Newman's bio on where he is now does not mention Evolv or Health2o...
    Dr. Newman retired from academia in 2008 and now focuses his time and effort on studies of the efficacy of nutraceuticals for the prevention of disease and promotion of human health. He now serves as the Chief Science Officer for NewChapter, Inc. (Brattleboro, VT) and as a consultant for companies such as Salient Pharmaceuticals (College Station, TX), Coastside Bioscience (Stonington, ME) and Phoenix Biotechnology (San Antonio, TX). He continues to be involved in development of his own drug derived from Nerium oleander for the treatment of solid tumors and certain neurodegenerative diseases. He now resides on the coast of Maine, is involved with local environmental issues and looks for excuses to go sailing.
    New Chapter® Our Difference



    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Also funny that FutureCeuticals (or VanDrunen Farms) has no news more recent than 2008 on research. The Targetest page does not show anything about Arcaea Active. I would think they'd be proud to be associated with Evolv and Health2o.
    Don't take life too serious. You'll never escape it alive anyway.
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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    LRM,

    "The report generated by M. D. Anderson specifically stated that further testing would need to be conducted "

    and this is ongoing.... As is testing of many products...

    Did you read the information about Dr. Newman that I've posted twice?
    What about the info from Futureceuticals?

    The information from Nov 2009 is 11 months old.
    What's the latest on that? IOW, what does MDACC say now?
    I don't know.
    Seems like there would be an update by now.
    What is it?

    And you're right about the title of this thread, she says in a "Duhhh" moment.
    I'm probably wasting my time here, though it's been fun.

    As I said, I believe in the product itself and its inventors.

    Mr Kaiser was a WWII veteran and served on the Orca. He was born in the 20's and outlived all the other survivors of the Bikini Atoll tests by many, many years. As a result of those tests, he (and the others) had a HOST of medical issues.
    I did not know him well and even if I did, I have had no reason to access his death certificate. He died in 2009.
    I don't know exactly what he was diagnosed with around 2000, as I said, he had a host of medical issues. (Thank you veterans.)
    Because of their success with the bioremediation products, he deduced that if the product assisted the microbes, they would help him.
    If you had watched the video with Dr. Collins, you would have understood this.

    I'm not sure what else to say.
    I thought people here were open to dialog and ideas.
    The continued use of something as simple as referencing me by my name, Karen, instead of "Karen", suggests otherwise.

    Enjoy your weekend, she says, taking a sip of her fave beverage.

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    LRM: C'mon, "Karen"

    now I know you're just bullshitting.

    You really don't have a bloody clue what you're talking about, do you ???

    Here's a tip for you:

    Just because you can Google up some research topics which contain the word "archaea" does NOT mean the same thing as research into a commercially named product called "Archaea Active"

    For chrissakes, the "archaea" in the research papers you quoted are single cell microorganisms, NOT some crap supposedly dissolved in water.

    What a nonsense.

    * * * * **** ***

    I don't use Google.

    You apparently know nothing about Archaea Active or the process, nor do you have the desire to learn.

    We just met and you have assumed you know all about me.
    Pity...

    Profanity.
    Great way to debate and discuss ideas.

    Disengage.

    Y'all have fun now, ya hear??
    Stay

    Karen

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Hi ALA

    You said: You misinterpreted what I said and used that as another excuse to try and say oh...evol is oxygenated and that is why it worked. I call bull puckey. One has to use as many of the steps advised by the FAA to fight jet lag. Oxygen alone does zippo for you. There have been countless serious medical studies and there has been research for many years on this subject, so your "opinion" about evol curing jet lag, doesn't fly, hun. Good try, but hey I expect nothing less. You recruiters are a slick bunch, I will give you that.

    *** ***
    Please show me where I said Evolv is "oxygenated".
    Please show me where I said Evolv "cures" jet lag.
    Please show me where I am "recruiting".

    Thanks!
    You are not as good at word games as you think you are. When your phony b.s. claims and statements are pulled apart and you are asked the details of them and to provide specific answers to direct questions, you can't. Then the deflection starts. You are the one who claimed, that because you drank Evolv you didn't have any symptoms of jet lag. Has Evolv affected your short term memory? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Hi ALA

    You said: Bull puckey part four. You really are on a role.

    ***** ****
    No, I just play one on TV...

    ***** ******
    You said: Double blind studies conducted by a legit entities and research conducted by a legit entities are. Spare us the b.s.

    **** ****
    Testing is ongoing.
    If research by MDACC and Futureceuticals (and perhaps others, I don't know),
    *Did you even read the info about Dr. Newman?*
    aren't good enough for ya, well...
    Okay then.

    If you find it worthless crap, bully for you! Don't buy or drink it.
    I find it worthwhile, so I do.

    Why does this upset you so?
    It's a mystery...

    Karen
    Again deflection is not going to fly here, sweeties. Dr, Newman is a person. An individual. He is not an aegit research entity or facility is he? MDACC found Evov to be nothing but worthless tap water and yet to keep ignoring what they have stated many times and their law suit? Evolv apparently affects your reading and comprehension skills as well. As for Futureceuticals, I did quite a bit of research on them last evening. They become involved in products that they can produce for the health food industry of which NONE are approved by the FDA. NONE. That disclaimer in fact is on everything they produce and or have tested. They are a tiny place with 35 employes. No legit medical or scienific entity has ever used them once for any drug testing or any legit research or study, again from a legit entity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Hi ALA

    Please show me where I am "recruiting".

    Thanks!
    It's obvious that you are a recruiter for Evolv and I would bet my left testicle on that, dear. You are not just some fool who pirchases this product and uses it. You have customers that you sell this worthless garbage to, you try and talk others into buying the hype, the lies and the b.s. so that you can sell more of it and make more money off the gullible. What do YOU call that? A saint just spreading the wonderous miracle of Evolv? LMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Howdy ALA,

    You said:

    Again you have posted your "opinion" and no facts. It does not matter what you "believe" and what Trey and the upline have fed you dear. It matters what the truth and the facts are. Are you calling the parties at the The University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center liars? Do you think they are suing Evol just for funsies and that they do not have a case? Give you time? Hmmm, this suit was filed Nov. 19 2009. lmao You are trying to tell us that you never heard of it til now? That makes three strikes of bull puckey from you now.

    ***** *******

    Uh no.
    MDACC and Futureceuticals did test.
    No I did not call anyone a liar, you have insinuated that I am.
    I'm just saying that was 11 months ago.
    Why don't you get an update on the case and inform us all?

    AFA giving me time...
    You accused me of dodging the question.
    I asked for time because I can't be 2 places at once.
    I'm not lurking here all day.

    I didn't even know you existed until yesterday and here you are calling me dear.
    Again, more bull puckey and excuses. When you cannot dream up some b.s. answer, you just cop a plea, make more excuses and flee. Why do you keep denying what MDACC has said about the results of their testing on Evolv? That is is nothing but tpwater and none of the claims that Evolv is making about th rpoduct have ever been tested and that they are not true? Oh, let me guess....because that does not fit your genda to recuit more sheep into the MLM.

    I never lurk here and I am never here "all day" and neither is anyone else. It takes me maybe 15 to 20 minutes to post and respond back to you, honey. Try another b.s. tact that someone might actually believe.

    All you have done here is to keep keep repeating everything, word for word that is on Evolv's website. Over and over again. Perhaps by saying the same scant messgae 50 times, you actually believe that someone is going to believe this crap eventually. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    regarding post 317...
    You must have very very strong legs to make these leaps.

    I'll try again slowly....

    The
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    The
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    I
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    Again, you have just said nothing of any value or meaning here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Life Aloft View Post
    Do ALL MLM recruiters take courses in how to evade, deflect and avoid answering any direct and specific questions with direct and specific answers??? ROTFL!

    You made the statement:"you would discover that he lived much, much longer than anyone expected."

    I have asked you specifically what he had, i.e. what disease. You seem to keep dancing around that. If it was cancer, what type? When exactly was he diagnosed with this disease, the date and when did he died of this disease, ithe date. I don't want a million links that have nothing whatsoever to do with this question. Just the truth and the facts. It would be two sentences from you. It that too difficult for you to answer? What did he have, when was he diagnosed with it (the date) and what date did he die of this. Can you manage to answer that? Got it? Or do you need further time to deflect?

    The game playing that MLMers, especially recruiters do, is just mind boggling, obvious and laughable.
    Why have you avoided this question for two days now, Karen? Afraid of the responses you will get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Dear ALA,

    You said: More bull puckey. No real "pharmacological expert" would ever say such a thing. You got this lie from Trey and the Evol upline.

    *** ***

    Are you trying to quote Rep. Joe Wilson?
    THAT is really your answer? You are coming off now as a complete and utter fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Life Aloft View Post
    So you don't care about the lack of ethics, morals, the lies and deceit about Trey who is one of the top dogs on the pyramid at Evol? From Evolv's website:

    Evolvhealth.comEvolvHealth was developed by a team of scientists in conjunction with a team of seasoned entrepreneurs, marketers and direct sellers led by Trey White.

    So you believe that an ethical and legit comapny would have a person such as Trey as their little leader of the reps and distributors and that this is okay for you? This does not discredit them in any way? The fact that he propagates himself as a billionaire which is bogus and the rest of the phony lies is not a problem for you?

    Amazing. Really amazing. When hit with the ugly truth, you just cop a plea. Ignornace is bliss. So is greed at any cost, I guess.
    No response to this as well, Karen pooh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Now I'm really confused.

    The title of this thread is:

    "Trey Whites' Evolv Water vs World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center" and the opening post of the thread includes an extract from the Motion for Expedited Discovery submitted to the court.

    Said extract reads:

    Now "Karen" is suggesting that she considers that MD Anderson Cancer Center research in some way gives credibility to Evolv and/or Archaea Active.

    The MDACC motion states quite clearly:



    Right, so we research what MDACC says, as "Karen" suggests, and it in no way supports "Karens" argument.

    In fact, it disproves what she is claiming almost entirely.

    Is it any wonder confusion reigns ???
    Yet she keeps quoting them like the blind, ignorant fool that she is as though they support Evolv and their product! ROTFL! That is just priceless! She ignores their actual research and testing and the lawsuit and keeps saying that MADCC says such and such when in fact, they say the complete opposite! You gotta just love MLM recruiters don't ya?

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Hi ALA

    You said: Bull puckey part four. You really are on a role.

    No, I just play one on TV...

    If you find it worthless crap, bully for you! Don't buy or drink it.
    I find it worthwhile, so I do.

    Why does this upset you so?
    It's a mystery...

    Karen
    No you are just playing the typical MLM recrutiter role on here, dear. Why am I upset? Why would one be upset at someone selling a miracle cure for diseases with a product that is nothing more than tap water? Why would one be concerned that you are hyping overpriced water that cures nothing? Why would someone be up set that ou are bilking people, lying to them and that you are associated with liars, conmen, criminals and thieves? ROTFL!

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    4:09-cv-03699 Board of Regents, The University of Texas System v. HEALTH20 Products, LLC et al
    Kenneth M. Hoyt, presiding
    Date filed: 11/16/2009
    Date of last filing: 03/02/2010


    History

    Doc.
    No.DatesDescription Filed & Entered: 11/16/2009

    Summons Issued1 Filed & Entered: 11/16/2009

    Complaint2 Filed & Entered: 11/17/2009

    Order for Initial Conference and Disclosure3 Filed & Entered: 11/18/2009

    Commissioner of Patents and Trademarks Notified4 Filed & Entered: 11/19/2009

    Notice of Appearance5 Filed: 11/25/2009Entered: 11/27/2009

    Return of Service Executed6 Filed: 11/25/2009Entered: 11/27/2009

    Return of Service Executed7 Filed & Entered: 12/01/2009

    Certificate of Interested Parties8 Filed & Entered: 12/04/2009

    Certificate of Interested Parties9 Filed & Entered: 12/04/2009

    Certificate of Interested Parties10 Filed & Entered: 12/04/2009Terminated: 12/08/2009

    Motion for Extension of Time11 Filed: 12/08/2009Entered: 12/09/2009

    Order on Motion for Extension of Time12 Filed & Entered: 12/14/2009Terminated: 12/21/2009

    Motion for Extension of Time13 Filed & Entered: 12/18/2009

    Answer to Complaint14 Filed & Entered: 12/21/2009

    Answer to Complaint15 Filed: 12/21/2009Entered: 12/22/2009

    Order16 Filed & Entered: 12/23/2009Terminated: 01/06/2010

    Motion to Expedite17 Filed & Entered: 12/23/2009

    Order18 Filed & Entered: 01/04/2010Terminated: 01/04/2010

    Motion to Appear Pro Hac Vice19 Filed & Entered: 01/04/2010

    Response in Opposition to Motion21 Filed: 01/04/2010Entered: 01/06/2010

    Order on Motion to Appear Pro Hac Vice20 Filed & Entered: 01/05/2010

    Joinder22 Filed & Entered: 01/06/2010

    Order on Motion to Expedite23 Filed & Entered: 01/07/2010

    Answer to Counterclaim24 Filed & Entered: 01/25/2010

    Notice of Appearance25 Filed & Entered: 02/10/2010

    Certificate of Interested Parties26 Filed & Entered: 02/12/2010

    JointDiscovery/Case Management Plan Filed & Entered: 02/19/2010

    Set/Reset Hearings & Other Court Settings Filed & Entered: 02/22/2010

    Set/Reset Hearings & Other Court Settings27 Filed & Entered: 02/25/2010

    Order Following Telephone Scheduling Conference28 Filed & Entered: 03/02/2010

    Notice of Change of Address29 Filed & Entered: 03/02/2010

    Notice of Appearance

    PACER Service Center Transaction Receipt 10/23/2010 11:35:25PACER Login: Client Code: Description: History/Documents Search Criteria: 4:09-cv-03699 Billable Pages: 1 Cost: 0.08

    Here is the original petition from that filing.
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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    LRM,

    "The report generated by M. D. Anderson specifically stated that further testing would need to be conducted "

    and this is ongoing.... As is testing of many products...

    REALLY? WHERE ARE THE 'HUMAN STUDIES' THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BEGIN IN APRIL AS TREY POOH LIED ABOUT BACK IN EARLY APRIL THEN? LOL WHY DON'T YOU ASK HIM, HONEY? HE NVER STATED BY WHOM AND WHERE EITHER. JUST MORE GENERALIZED B.S. TO FEED THE SHEEP!

    The information from Nov 2009 is 11 months old. YOU KEEP REPEATING THIS LIKE IT HAS SOME SIGNIFICANCE, WHICH IT DOES NOT. THE JUSTICE AND COURT SYSTEMS ROLL VERY SLOWLY AS YOU KNOW BUT PRETEND NOT TO KNOW TO TRY AND MAKE SOME POINT IN EVOLV'S FAVOR. THE CASE HAS NOT BEEN DROPPED AND IS BEING ACTIVELY PURSUED. TEXAS U AND MDACC WILL HAVE THEIR DAY IN COURT. What's the latest on that? IOW, what does MDACC say now?
    I don't know.THAT'S THE PROBLEM "KAREN", YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. YOU COP A PLEA TO MOST OF THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE BEEN ASKED AND FEIGN IGNORANCE, YOU CAME HERE TO TOUT EVOLV AND YET YOU CANNOT SEEM TO RESPOND WITH ANY INTELLIGENCE, LOGIC, RATIONAL THINKING OR FACTS TO BACK UP ANYTHING THAT YOU SPOUT. Seems like there would be an update by now.
    What is it?

    And you're right about the title of this thread, she says in a "Duhhh" moment.
    I'm probably wasting my time here, though it's been fun.OH PLEASE, WE ALL KNOW WHY YOU CAME HERE. LOL
    As I said, I believe in the product itself and its inventors.

    Mr Kaiser was a WWII veteran and served on the Orca. He was born in the 20's and outlived all the other survivors of the Bikini Atoll tests by many, many years. As a result of those tests, he (and the others) had a HOST of medical issues. WHAT HEALTH ISSUES AND WHAT PROOF DO YOU HAVE THAT ANY OF THEM WERE CAUSED FROM BEING ON THE ORCA AND AT THE BIKINI ATOLL?I did not know him well and even if I did, I have had no reason to access his death certificate. He died in 2009.
    I don't know exactly what he was diagnosed with around 2000, as I said, he had a host of medical issues. I AM SURE THAT YOUR FEARLESS LEADER TREY WOULD GLADLY PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INFO, HUN. Because of their success with the bioremediation products, he deduced that if the product assisted the microbes, they would help him. ONCE AGAIN, PROOF DEAR, WHERE IS THE PROOF AND NOT CONJECTURE AND NOT OPINION. If you had watched the video with Dr. Collins, you would have understood this. WE WATCHED THE VIDEO. IT'S B.S. LOL
    I'm not sure what else to say.YOU HAVEN'T BEEN SURE WHAT TO SAY SINCE YOU GOT HERE APPARENTLY EXCEPT TO DEFLECT AND REPEAT THE EVOLV MANTRA.I thought people here were open to dialog and ideas. PEOPLE ARE, YOU HAVE YET TO DO THIS HOWEVER. THUS FAR, YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT B.S. HYPE THIS WORTHLESS PRODUCT, MAKE FALSE MISLEADING STSTAES, DEFLECT AND AVOID ALL DIRECT QUESTIONS WITH DIRECT ANSWERS.
    Bull puckey part 5 from you.
    Last edited by A Life Aloft; 10-23-2010 at 11:53 AM.

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    So "Karen" comes onto a forum called "realSCAM.com" with its' clearly stated intention of allowing people to discuss: "is it, or isn't it? You decide"

    Than says:

    "if you find it worthless crap, bully for you! Don't buy or drink it.
    I find it worthwhile, so I do.

    Why does this upset you so?"
    Err, excuse me ???

    Did someone go out and drag "Karen" in here kicking and screaming ????
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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    ALA,

    Awesome info. I had to laugh when I read about Phase 0 clinical trials. It mentioned microdosing. As the label of the "zero water" shows it has nothing in it I think the microdosing tests are already underway by default.

    Soapboxmom
    What is even more amazing, in all the posts that Karen has made for days now on here, we have not learned even one fact about Evolv and nothing, not one thing to back up any of her ridiculous claims. It's been deflection, lies, opinion and spouting the same old same old b.s. form their website. lol What's her point exactly? MLM Recruiters pushing worthless garbage really crack me up.

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    So "Karen" comes onto a forum called "realSCAM.com" with its' clearly stated intention of allowing people to discuss: "is it, or isn't it? You decide"

    Than says:



    Err, excuse me ???

    Did someone go out and drag "Karen" in here kicking and screaming ????
    The recruiters into MLMs hit all the blogs and forums at some point that show up in Google searches and that tell the truth, don't they? lmao Problem is, they wind up accomplishing nothing but making themsleves and their phony products look even worse, if that is possible. lol Good job Karen! Thanks for proving everything that has been stated by others on here for some time. She needs to brush up on her b.s. skills quite a bit though, they are rather lame and pathetic.
    Last edited by A Life Aloft; 10-23-2010 at 12:04 PM.

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    regarding post 317...
    I
    have
    personally
    benefited
    from
    the
    product,
    as
    have
    others
    in
    my
    family,
    and
    friends,
    and
    acquaintances.

    Karen
    Double blind studies by a well known, legit facility...link please. Oh yeah you can't link any...just more opinion. No proof yet again. What a surprise. You tout and sell a product that makes all sorts of claims and nothing is backed up by any actual facts or proof whatsoever. That's why this wonder product is sold by an MLM. No legit manufacturer would touch it or be able to make these bogus claims. No FDA involvement. No involvement by legit medical and scientific entities. Perfect scheme for making money off the gullible. It's the MLM way.
    Last edited by A Life Aloft; 10-23-2010 at 12:15 PM.

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Thanks SBM,
    I'm sure when there's an update you'll post it here.
    Looks like that info was from March.
    Bound to be an update soon...
    Then y'all can gloat away as the Titanic goes down.
    glub glub glub...

    ALA
    Please don't neuter yourself on my account.

    see ya
    Karen

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