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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    MLM is not the key to good health or great wealth:



    Own Your Life



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    Whether you work for someone else or you are self-employed, each of us only has 24 hours in a day. With a traditional business or franchise, you have to put in long hours to have any chance of succeeding. You gradually discover that you don’t really own your business: your business owns you!
    The key to building a large successful home-based business is having an easily duplicated system. That is what we offer as Lifestyle Trainers.
    As a Lifestyle Trainer you are able to multiply your earning time tremendously. Instead of just being paid on the hours each day you yourself work, you will be paid on the efforts of the entire network you build. All the members of your network are independent distributors, just as you are. That means you can build a huge business without the hassles of having employees.
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    It had always been a dream of mine to have my own business. I was tired of building other people’s dreams and not being in control of my own future. As the years went by I was starting to feel that I would never find that perfect business that would give me everything I wanted -- financial independence, quality time with my family and the freedom to do the things that are important to me.
    I searched long and hard for a business that could give me what I was hoping for. Unfortunately, I always came up empty-handed.
    Then, I was exposed to lifestyle training. I was willing to look at almost anything. So, I took a big look. I researched and attended private business receptions. I couldn’t believe what I discovered. I felt incredible excitement build inside me once I discovered the true income potential in this industry. I was blown away by the freedom and lifestyle that people enjoyed in this industry. I remember saying, “If this is real, I am going to do this and failure is not an option!” So I began a quest to search for the very best network marketing company I could find.
    The rest is history. My dreams are finally coming true, and I owe all my success and good fortune to my home-based business.

    His dream was to hook-up with lying dirtbags like Jack Weinzierl, who I believe is the slime that posted that multi-million and multi-billion dollar earner crap? His dream was to rent a glorified, oversized outhouse in the Texas hick country? He is sure a shining example of what the MLM income can do for one's lifestyle!

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center







    What is a Lifestyle Trainer?



    Very simply, a Lifestyle Trainer is someone who teaches their friends and people they meet how to truly Own Their Lives.
    So what does “Owning Your Life” mean? It means having the time, money and freedom to do whatever, whenever you want. In short, FREEDOM. By becoming a Lifestyle Trainer you will teach others how they can have the time, money, and freedom to do what they want, when they want, by using a simple system that anyone can do. The best part is, it doesn’t take much of your time. To request additional information, fill out the questionnaire on the next page.
    Mr. owning your own life rents an oversized Texas outhouse. If this guy is a top earner in Evolv I would hate to think how well the legions of starry-eyed new recruits are doing!!!
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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Registrant: DGA Holdings 6101 Long Prairie Rd. 744-176 Flower Mound, Texas 75028 United States Registered through: godaddy.com, llc (Domain Names | The World's Largest Domain Name Registrar - Go Daddy) Domain Name: IOWNMYLIFEATLAST.COM Created on: 19-Mar-12 Expires on: 19-Mar-14 Last Updated on: 19-Mar-12 Administrative Contact: Grantham, Don DGA Holdings 6101 Long Prairie Rd. 744-176 Flower Mound, Texas 75028 United States (214) 663-5014 Technical Contact: Grantham, Don DGA Holdings 6101 Long Prairie Rd. 744-176 Flower Mound, Texas 75028 United States (214) 663-5014
    State of Texas says:
    Entity Information: DGA HOLDINGS, LLC
    PO BOX 623
    LAKE DALLAS, TX 75065-0623
    Status: NOT IN GOOD STANDING
    Registered Agent: DON GRANTHAM
    2051 FAIR OAKS CIRCLE
    CORINTH, TX 76210
    Registered Agent Resignation Date:
    State of Formation: TX
    File Number: 0800454274
    SOS Registration Date: February 16, 2005
    This multi-million dollar earner (i.e. complete liar and fraud) doesn't even have a corporate entity in good standing. I guess he would be an easy lawsuit target as he can't use DGA Holdings to hide behind!

    Texas Corporation | Incorporate in Texas | Texas Incorporation
    If you operate your business without the protection of a corporation, you can find yourself personally liable for any and all debts and obligations of the business.
    The FTC says:

    [QUOTE]Your Responsibilities
    If you decide to become a distributor, you are legally responsible for the claims you make about the company, its product and the business opportunities it offers. That applies even if you're repeating claims you read in a company brochure or advertising flyer. The Federal Trade Commission advises you to verify the research behind any claims about a product's performance before repeating those claims to a potential customer.

    In addition, if you solicit new distributors, you are responsible for the claims you make about a distributor's earnings potential. Be sure to represent the opportunity honestly and avoid making unrealistic promises. If those promises fall through, remember that you could be held liable.
    Grantham might want to quit flashing those pictures of a mansion he doesn't live in and drop the wealthy and successful act before someone calls his bluff!
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    I think the sleaziest thing about Evolv is the, "forget what I said yesterday" sales approach. I've been following Evolv for exactly three years. I've watched them change from "the next billion dollar" industry in water to the "game changer" pill called limitless, to the weight loss challenge called E84.

    Their corporate website has gone from an informative place to gather information on their latest philanthropic plans, to what it is now: a schedule of recruiting calls and recruiting meetings.

    Please bring back the testimonials. I remember when the gel was supposedly curing warts, toothaches, and open gashes. I know the three people who made those claims have all moved on to different scams, but c'mon. If the product has archae active in it, it has to be curing something these days, right? Or, have we all just moved on to stories about our photoshop, errr, weight-loss transformations?

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    The latest from the Evolvhealth Blog:

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    WooHoo !!

    I can hardly wait.

    Do you think we can get him to autograph my underwear ??
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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Maybe Trey White will tell us how a freakin' multi-billionaire ended up in bankruptcy on the Earthquest theme park property. How about some excuse for his not funding the 600 million dollar park itself since he is so wildly successful!
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    Is it timing, or something else that makes one successful in MLM? One of my favorite ex-Evolvers, who was in early, in my opinion, did not have much success. He has moved on to selling Consumer Choice Marketing.

    I've attached a link to his latest video, which is so misleading, it is almost laughable. Watching Bigguns and Youngguns try to sell energy deregulation is the real laughable part. They may be with different companies, but the goal is the same.

    BROKERS WANTED-Commercial Energy- No experience neccessary- RESIDUAL INCOME - YouTube

    Here is the big catch, in case you missed it. It is easy to sell electricity, Mike. What isn't easy, is to get someone to give you last month's energy bill. Want to know what is even more difficult? Getting that person to make a switch to your "reputable" business. Did you notice that Mike says he "knows someone who has closed business accounts"? Do you think he would have told the viewers about the big account he closed, if in fact he had closed one?

    Mike tells us that for every million kilowatts used, the closer gets $1,000. The average household uses 30,000 per year *Google*, so that would get you about $30 per house...per year. So, go close on your mom, your friend, your sister, and you have made an extra $8.00 per month. I hope you didn't have to drive to any of those residences to close. There goes the profit.

    But wait, Undercover Brother, Mike is talking about closing businesses, not residential. Ok, put yourself in the place of a business owner. Not some Hallmark store, that is barely bigger than your house. Pretend you own a hotel chain like Comfort Inn. Now pretend your brother's friend from high school asks you to see last month's utility bill, so he can save you money. How long do you think that meeting will last?

    Of course, this is all my opinion. I may have no idea what I'm talking about. Or, maybe Mike sums it up in the final minute when he says, " we have been around for four years, and nobody knows about it.' Well said, Mike.

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    Yikes, now Mike is an unevolved beast!!!
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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Evolvhealth has been advertising the following:

    EvolvHealth
    October 4
    Congratulations to EvolvHealth Baseball Ambassador Alex Rodriguez on winning the American League East title last night!
    Photo: Congratulations to EvolvHealth Baseball Ambassador Alex Rodriguez on winning the American League East title last night!


    They claim he is an unpaid endorser of their magic bracelet: C-Prime.

    My question: Does the bracelet stop working during the playoffs? Congratulations to the Yankees for winning their playoff series against the Orioles, DESPITE having A-Rod on the team.

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    It's official: According to Evolver: R. Greene, Evolv cures ADD, ADHD, et al.

    N. Lease shared R. Greene's status


    Super proud of Landon and Lexie!! Just picked up their report cards for the 1st 9 weeks of school & Lexie had one B and the rest all A's!! Landon had straight A's!!! Thank you EvolvHealth for your amazing ALL NATURAL LIFE CHANGING PRODUCTS!!! If you know of anyone that struggles with staying focused due to ADD, ADHD, Aspergers, etc. let me know and I will be happy to share my kids results!
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    I'm sure their school would love to hear that their teachers apparently suck and some liquid voodoo is the answer. Just think of the tax dollars we would save.

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    Does anyone know what happened to Evolv's former COO, James C.? I think after his short stint as COO, he tried to build a team with Camaron. Camaron still seems to be actively recruiting, but I can't find a thing on James for almost a year. He used to blather on several outlets about "moving marbles", and now...nothing.

    Or, maybe he is living off all that residual we always hear about, and he is sitting on a beach somewhere counting all his money????

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    I may not know what happened to James, but I do know where my favorite ex-evolver, permanent top-gunner, and current energy seller is hanging out. Keith continues to make brilliant recruiting efforts, like this gem yesterday. Who wouldn't want to be led by this guy?

    Keith Dorsey
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    Photo: If you invested $19.50 a month for the next 36 months and ended up making OVER $1,000,000 every month in residual income because of it, would that be ok? How about if you messed it all up and got it 10% right, would $10,000 be ok?


    He had been saying that this was an investment free, risk free opportunity. In some posts he lets on that there is a $19.50 per month investment required. Forget how absurd his assertion is, of the possibility of making $12,000,000 annually with this MLM. My favorite part of this quote is when he once again shows off his amazing math skills. What is 10% of a million, Keith?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercover Brother View Post
    I may not know what happened to James, but I do know where my favorite ex-evolver, permanent top-gunner, and current energy seller is hanging out. Keith continues to make brilliant recruiting efforts, like this gem yesterday. Who wouldn't want to be led by this guy?

    Keith Dorsey
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    Photo: If you invested $19.50 a month for the next 36 months and ended up making OVER $1,000,000 every month in residual income because of it, would that be ok? How about if you messed it all up and got it 10% right, would $10,000 be ok?


    He had been saying that this was an investment free, risk free opportunity. In some posts he lets on that there is a $19.50 per month investment required. Forget how absurd his assertion is, of the possibility of making $12,000,000 annually with this MLM. My favorite part of this quote is when he once again shows off his amazing math skills. What is 10% of a million, Keith?
    I guess he's trying to prove you can screw it up and still allegedly make that much no matter how you do it. lol. Yet even his 'mistake' is a ridiculous claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    I guess he's trying to prove you can screw it up and still allegedly make that much no matter how you do it. lol. Yet even his 'mistake' is a ridiculous claim.
    This is my new FAVORITE video:

    North American Power Robert Dean 12 million dollar concept - YouTube

    Forget everything you know about recruiting two, and they recruit two. Ex-Evolver, Bob, explains how simple recruiting a 10X10 matrix to the sixth level is. That's right, just get 1 million people in your downline, and you can earn 1 million dollars per month. Are you with me on that?

    If the people in Topgun were able to consistently keep 100 people in each of their downlines, they would have never left Evolv. But, as Bob explains, recruiting people in this wind farm is easier, because people don't know what renewable energy is...when he was with Evolv water, his videos said it was going to work, because everyone knew what water was, and you wouldn't have to change their habits. Flip-flop. Saying whatever it takes to get 1 million recruits.

    Lastly, he continues to perpetrate the falsehood that if you're only 10% successful, you will still make thousands per month. Really? If I only recruit 1 person, not 10, and they only recruit 1, and so on, down 6 levels: That is $120 per month, going to the company. Now subtract your $20 "investment", and remember, you get paid 1/12th of the take. Congrats, you just made $9.00. Is $9 ten percent of $1 million, Bob?

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Attachment 182

    Jack Weinzierl and his sleazebag patrol sure were gutsy in promoting this pack of outright lies and gross exaggerations. There should be a slew of Evolv representatives suing Jack Weinzierl for publishing this and the scammers who allowed their names to be used on this dishonest advertisement.

    Don Grantham has been posting some very interesting revelations about all of this:

    Don Grantham failed at his job at a car dealership. He proceeded to get into collapsing mortgage business. Then he gets into a "bullshit MLM" / Network Marketing business otherwise known as Evolv. He got a lot of people in quick. They would sign-up order product, Grantham would give them product and then they would bail and the product would stack up in the garage. Most of the 90 total in his downline organization (insert snicker here) decided MLM sucks and they quit. He claims they got no training. Grantham ends up with a failing team that isn't doing anything, so he dumps and jumps to Empower Network. The end result is he ended up where he started in Evolv (broke and inebriated perhaps???) Certainly he was never and will never be a multi-million dollar earner!!

    Weinzierl claiming this guy and most of the others are successful multi-million dollar earners is an outright fabrication. These serial scammers and pathological liars need to be called on it. This might be the perfect class action lawsuit!!! Talk about piling it high and deep!!!

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    Straight from the horses mouth. Don't miss it on video:
    Empower Network 15K Formula..Confessions Of A Non Leader…Bullshit or Belief? Learn The Truth | Don Grantham's Empower Network Blog
    The Journey to Empower Network and the Empower Network 15K Formula

    Like I said in the video…. I was in another network marketing company ( still am) here in Dallas. I have been in around 2 1/2 years. I got a really good start…. brought in around 90 people. Problem was… and is…. they couldn’t do what I did…. the duplication monster reared its ugly head once again and swallowed up an entire team.
    Duplication Monster

    I have spent the last two years really struggling….. Home parties… hotel parties… one on one’s, 3 way calls, conference calls, training calls, calling every friend I had… ( i say had.. cause many of them won’t return my calls now) cold calling, cold calling with a automated system….. in fact that is a whole nother( is that a real word?) conversation.
    Anyway I had a decent sized group and the duplication monster got them…. but I didn’t give up!
    I thought I would raise the dead ( get previous people back in) …… I was advised against this by my up line… but I had to try…… the up line was right…. here’s what I got.
    Raising the dead is not always what it's cracked up to be.

    I



    My up line told me, ” it’s easier to give birth than raise the dead” meaning it would be easier to find new people. I thought to my self…. giving birth certainly sounds more inviting than raising the dead. Who doesn’t like babies?
    Everyone Loves Babies







    The concept was a good one….. just go out and find NEW PEOPLE who wanted to join a network marketing company. Easy enough… right? Any of this ringing true for you?
    Like I said… I had already burnt up my list of friends…. in fact I would joke about how my car could be on fire on the side of the rode… if I called a friend for help… they probably wouldn’t answer… thinking I was going to pitch them on my opportunity. (sound familiar?)
    Time went by… month after month… year after year… but I stuck with it…. nothing changed.
    Does all of this ring true in your life?
    Another serial loser / jump and dump specialist going from one bum deal to the next!!! American Horror Story lives!!!
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    I read Don's blog, and watched his video. Both are amazing. Don epitomizes the definition of a fool and his money. Or, better yet, he reminds me of a dog that has beaten so badly he just lays down and takes it.

    The worst part is that he knows this, and yet this video and blog are another attempt at recruiting. I would have had more respect for him had he just done the video and blog confessing how ridiculous MLM and Duplication concepts are, and warned people to stay away. You can tell he thinks he has wasted 2 and a half years of his life on Evolv, so why would he keep going? He admits he barely finished high school, and we know that is a similar situation for a lot of the "marks" in recruiting. Why not encourage people to strive for better education, and get a real J.O.B.?

    Second to worst is the anecdote he gives about his first three weeks in EN. I never hear what he is selling. I just hear him say he posted a recruiting video on Facebook, and someone called him saying he wanted in, so Don had to spend more of his own money, before he could recruit this guy. Don, you are a sucker, but you seem to get it. Listen to what you just said and reread what you wrote. You admit you wasted two years of your life, and you admit you have no friends...just walk away, and do a good deed by sharing your story, to help others avoid joining one of these messes.

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Evolv's magic bracelet, better known as C-Prime, uses what they call "Honorary Ambassadors" to promote their product. A quick view of Evolv's fan page shows pictures Alex Rodriguez and Dwight Howard wearing the cool bands. Excellent.

    A-Rod finished the season riding the bench. He was ineffectual at the plate, meaning C-Prime does not help with hand-eye coordination. Now he is undergoing surgery on his OTHER hip, meaning C-Prime doesn't prevent body deterioration. What exactly did C-Prime do for A-Rod?

    Dwight Howard was just named as one of GQ's Least Influential People, in their December issue. Referring to Dwight in the issue, it reads "...every American hated your guts and wanted to see you fail". Dwight is currently shooting around 45% from the free throw line, and recently went 9/21 in a loss to Orlando.

    I'll give it to Evolv, you guys know how to pick 'em. You would have been better off showing pictures of Jill Kelly. Remember her? She was the "Honorary Ambassador to South Korea".

    As a footnote: I personally don't believe C-Prime has anything to do with these athletes terrible performances of late. But I also don't believe they help them perform either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercover Brother View Post
    What exactly did C-Prime do for A-Rod?
    Ummn, enriched his bank account ??
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    Yeah. I guess that's about it. There were never any television commercials involving him and the miracle elixir.

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    I DO NOT UNDERSTAND MLM. How does this happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercover Brother View Post
    I DO NOT UNDERSTAND MLM. How does this happen?

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    You mean this little snippet of information ???

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    I mean, I don't understand what I am reading, when looking at his Linkedin profile. Is it saying he has a JOB now? It looks like he walked away from Evolv in October. I thought this guy was on top of Evolv. He had video blogs about moving marbles. He had pictures from his Evolv trips to Mexico. Perhaps he made it to the top, and now he is living off residuals from his downline???

    But, if that is the case, then why the new JOB? Granted, I'm not convinced this SVP of Horizon Commercial Capital is legitimate. James strikes me as the kind of guy who likes hollow titles.

    My main question is...IF he is out without a residual income, and IF he was one of the best, how is a normal person supposed to reach financial independence with Evolv?

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