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    Re: Is Rippln a pyramid scheme? MLM? fun game? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    Our Jamie...'The guy from England' explaining why he is 'trusted' by so many people. And how much easier it is to 'get people interested' in his latest scam..sorry, business.



    Sippin and Rippln April 26th at GetMyRippleOn.Com - Rippln Live Training! - YouTube
    What is it with these folks, their videos suck. It is like the circus is in town, but not the good circus, the one where you can smell the booze on the clowns and you have to worry about the monkey with the mohawk stealing your wallet.

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    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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    well I was here when the thread about banners broker started but then left because I had nothing really to do about it anymore and I didn't see anything coming from it so I just left all that in the hopes that banners broker will be closed sometime in the future and I still hope that.

    I came here to worn you about Rippln and no I did not join that thing too I just stumbled upon a video talking about it in some sites that I visit and it looked like something is not right so I started reading about it more and BAM on the third link on google when typing Rippln I find this site - Rippln Investigation: Is It A MLM Pyramid Scheme Scam? - The Chris Voss Show

    I was thinking it was a promotion for Rippln saying it's totally not a scheme but no it was a real investigation about it, and also a good one. I don't knot chris voss maybe you guys do but I already like him.

    so I got all my info and wanted to share with you that so you could start talking about it and bring info that I can't find or don't have the time to..

    but the funny thing is that I just looked on Jamie Waters youtube channel, guess what? he is in rippln too :)

    Jamie's Intro to Rippln - YouTube
    Why did I join Rippln? - YouTube

    so yeah, nothing else to say really hope you warn people about this thing and if you think that it's the real deal tell us why.

    oh and there was a story about it in techcrunch too.. http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/22/wha...p-promo-video/

    (sorry if I broke a rule or something didn't really have the time to read it now)

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    A lot of the BB pimps have moved on to Rippln. Not too long ago I would have given some a pass as just not really understanding how to evaluate a business opportunity. More and more I am really starting to think they are sociopaths in addition to being very dishonest. There is another Guy Al Sills who was promoting BB and in his last video he said he still believed, but lo and behold he is pushing Rippln. All the higher ups want is to suck people in and get referral fees, they could care less about the losses their followers suffer.
    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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    @JB -- you're fine, AFAIK. A little late but fine. :) Tech Crunch and Chris Voss links are back on page 1 or 2. :D

    Rippln *sounds* legitimate, but until they actually deliver an app, it's just an email harvest campaign. (Much like Wazzub)
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    Just found this on the PS facebook page, looks like JW and the Rippln gang have some stiff competition.

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    Re: Is Rippln a pyramid scheme? MLM? fun game? You decide.

    The Droid has picked it up, too:

    » Rippln Ripple Rippln Rip

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    Re: Is Rippln a pyramid scheme? MLM? fun game? You decide.

    i signed up and supposed to get a optin website and so I bought domain name and got Sh*t from them

    poorly run hyped up company






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    Re: Is Rippln a pyramid scheme? MLM? fun game? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    What is it with these folks, their videos suck. It is like the circus is in town, but not the good circus, the one where you can smell the booze on the clowns and you have to worry about the monkey with the mohawk stealing your wallet.

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    i signed up and supposed to get a optin website and so I bought domain name and got Sh*t from them

    poorly run hyped up company






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    Re: Is Rippln a pyramid scheme? MLM? fun game? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTooMuchTime View Post
    The Droid has picked it up, too:

    » Rippln Ripple Rippln Rip
    Ha beat me too it JTMT, for anyone who isn't bothered by an occasional expletive or 5 the Droid really nailed it on this one.
    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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    Re: Is Rippln a pyramid scheme? MLM? fun game? You decide.

    Apparently Dooly realized his mistake half-way regarding Rippln and kinda bumped it off his front page. He talked about apps, gamification, but tried pretty hard not to mention Rippln.

    He did however, completely nuked the comments where I pointed out that Rippln doesn't have an app, and thus can't even be compared with iLA and Level 9. Now the thread has NO comments.
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    Re: Is Rippln a pyramid scheme? MLM? fun game? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    Apparently Dooly realized his mistake half-way regarding Rippln and kinda bumped it off his front page. He talked about apps, gamification, but tried pretty hard not to mention Rippln.

    He did however, completely nuked the comments where I pointed out that Rippln doesn't have an app, and thus can't even be compared with iLA and Level 9. Now the thread has NO comments.
    Ah, Troy Dooley, our favorite MLM Queen. Since his "Zeek Experience" I would think it is is obvious that this gentleman's opinion of what constitutes a legal, as opposed to an illegal, MLM is somewhat questionable. And that is putting it politely. Maybe "irrelevant" would be more correct.

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    Re: Is Rippln a pyramid scheme? MLM? fun game? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTooMuchTime View Post
    The Droid has picked it up, too:

    » Rippln Ripple Rippln Rip
    Hehe, Answer that and stay fashionable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Oz over on his excellent Behind MLM blog has an analysis of Rippln and some of those behind the scenes of this "opportunity" (and, I use the word loosely)


    have you ever heard about futuristic marketing? have you heard of the Reverse Funnel System or global resorts network? well, Ripoff Report | Global Resorts Network - Gold Crown Resorts - Reverse Funnel System - Ty Caughlin Complaint Review Pheonix, Arizona: 318260 and other scam alert websites have all kinds of reports , complaints and scam alerts for them....they all use the same scam techniques, including unauthorized charges to credit cards etc...all of which Jonathan Budd was involved in and in fact was the "pitch man" for, just like he is now for rippln but additionally they have all flooded the internet to back up rippln, which i find amusing but clever.... they put out all kinds of pages with key words like rippln is a scam, when you click on the link (some you get a virus warning from your virus software) but all talk about how great rippln is, how it is not a scam etc... this is what these guys are experts at, flooding the internet with pages using the word "rippln is a scam" then the page itself is a pitch page in rippln favor and this way they have successfully buried the real pages, with real facts about rippln and all of the people involved in it...every single name involved with rippln, underwood, terry lacore, budd...every single one of them has long records and lacore himself was sued by the SEC in 2008 and was forbidden from being involved as an officer etc for 5 years.... interesting timing, 2013! that's 5 years... check the info on the government site yourself about terry lacore (the true owner behind rippln) Mark D. Woodburn and Terry LaCore: Lit. Rel. No. 20702 / September 4, 2008
    also i have found they all have all sorts of shell corporations they use, websites, website names etc... the main one budd uses is empowered entrepreneurs ... he uses all kinds of different addresses, network solutions records show some in CT and some in NC ... here is just some of the info, btw the phone number is a spint WIRELESS number:
    Domain name: EMPOWERED-ENTREPRENEURS.COM
    Registrant Contact:
    empowered entrepreneurs
    jonathan budd ()

    Fax:
    26 hampden rd
    somers, CT 06071
    US
    Administrative Contact:
    NA
    jonathan budd (info@jonathanbudd.com)
    +1.8609853985
    Fax: +1.5555555555
    empowered entrepreneurs
    26 hampden rd
    somers, CT 06071
    US
    and here is the info on that rippln site ripplestrategy.com that emailed me pretending to be corporate:
    Domain name: RIPPLESTRATEGY.COM
    Registrant Contact:
    Empowered Entrepreneurs Inc.
    Empowered Entrepreneurs ()

    Fax:
    3237 Fox Knob Road
    Jonesville, NC 28642
    US
    Administrative Contact:
    Empowered Entrepreneurs Inc.
    Empowered Entrepreneurs (webmaster@jonathanbudd.com)
    +1.8609853985
    Fax: +1.5555555555
    3237 Fox Knob Road
    Jonesville, NC 28642
    US
    MY ADVICE IS DO NOT GIVE THEM YOUR CREDIT CARD INFORMATION , JUST CHECK RIPOFF REPORT AND SEE WHAT THEY DO WITH PEOPLE'S CREDIT CARDS. ...(just watch and see what rippln will ask for after this pre-launch. Rest assured they will be asking for people’s credit card numbers for apps and other bogus purchases and charges, history is repeating itself) By the way all the new names that keep popping up with rippln, like mark hoverson etc... every one of them have ties to all the same scams....these are the people behind and promoting rippln, which by the way has already been tried before under different names like tsunami project etc....they are doing what they have always done using different company names, after rippln there will be another.... they are very smart in how they hide the truth and flood the search engines with their own pages endorsing whatever scam/shell corporation they are promoting at the time... funny how jonathan budds page does NOT have all the products and services from all these other companies he pitches .... this is only the tip of the iceberg as there is so much more but all ANYONE needs to know it’s a scam are the reputations of all the people behind rippln (from brian underwood and the “burnlounge” scandal to terry lacore and the sec scandal) every name behind rippln is a white collar criminal so watch out, because people are NOT players but rather getting PLAYED ....

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    Re: Is Rippln a pyramid scheme? MLM? fun game? You decide.

    http://docs.rippln.com/rippln-myth-vs-fact.pdf

    M yth vs Fact

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    Let’s get started.
    [COLOR=rgb(10.000000%, 10.000000%, 10.000000%)]Evolutions [/COLOR]in social media, data and technology have created massive opportunities forinnovative business models. Because these ideas are new and different, they often are noteasily understood in their early stages. That is the case with Rippln. Our mission and businessmodel are groundbreaking and we are working tirelessly to fully convey our idea and whyRippln’s time has come. Even still, there is mis-information being propagated and opinionsare being offered as facts, particularly on a select few internet blogs. We’re not surprised thatcritics have emerged, but we believe what is most important is for people to have accurateinformation. We want to clear up confusion about some common Rippln myths being spread.Thank you for taking a few moments out of your day to learn the truth about Rippln.


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    myth #1 Rippln is a Pyramid scheme and a Ponzi scheme.


    fact



    Rippln is NOT a Pyramid or Ponzi scheme. Anyone can research these terms to learn what they really mean and see for themselvesthat Rippln is neither. A great reference for accurate information on this and related topics is www.DSA.org.
    In short, the FTC defines a Pyramid scheme as something that promises large profits based primarily on recruiting others to jointheir program, not based on profits from any real investment or sale of goods. In a Ponzi scheme, payments are collected from astream of people, promising them all the same high rate of return on a short-term investment. In the typical Ponzi scheme, thereis no investment opportunity, and the promoter just uses the money from new recruits to pay obligations owed to longer-standingmembers of the program.
    Clearly, Rippln doesn’t fit either of these definitions.
    So what is Rippln? At its core, Rippln is a brand new model for the distribution of products and services, such as apps, software andhard products that merges mobile, online and offline technologies and practices. Rippln is a PLATFORM that tracks the value anindividual creates in the marketplace and rewards individuals for sharing goods and services. Rippln’s technology platform also usesgamification techniques to build an audience, promote continued involvement, share products and provide rewards.
    It concerns us that some individuals are casually and irresponsibly labeling Rippln as potentially illegal. We take legality andcompliance with all state and federal laws and regulations seriously. At the same time, we still retain our sense of humor about lifeand this video in particular adequately explains the misguided opinions of many lay people when it comes to direct sales. Watch ifyou enjoy a good chuckle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZiw15VgWoI. It is very funny and likely very familiar to many of us.


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    myth #2 Rippln is an MLM and only the owners and founders will get rich.


    fact



    Multi-level, or Network Marketing, is a business model that has provided tremendous income opportunities for many, many individuals.An estimated 92 million people are participating in direct selling worldwide with $153.7 billion in global sales in 2011 alone. Seereferences at www.DSA.org.
    We are avid supporters of the industry. At the same time, we are not an MLM - Rippln is a user acquisition business model based onIncentivized Sharing. Our Rewards Program provides attractive rewards for each individual who chooses to participate. Much likeany business, the larger the individual’s network (their Ripple) the greater the potential monetary rewards. The amount of money anindividual can earn is based on personal production. Anyone who produces a large Ripple has the chance to earn a large income,even if they were referred by someone before them.


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    myth #3 Rippln is all hype.


    fact



    Rippln was released to the world on April 13 and entered what we called our “buzz building phase”. The point of this phase hassimply been to share the concept of Rippln and allow people to begin laying the foundation of their Ripple.
    Of course our communication during this time has been high-energy. We’re excited to be creating something that has never beendone before, and we are passionate about our mission. We see a future where anyone can participate in the value they create in themarketplace. It’s a simple concept and based on the numbers who have joined Rippln thus far, over 1 million people agree with us.
    Like any start-up business, we have been fine-tuning our model as we prepare for launch. It is prudent to release details only asthey are finalized, which we have been doing and will continue to do. It is also important to remember that in today’s fast-pacedenvironment, market conditions change and the most successful companies are the ones that are agile. Our plan is to be massivelysuccessful, so it is highly likely that we will continually analyze and adjust our model to further strengthen it and to adapt to what’shappening in the marketplace.


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    myth #4 Rippln is over-representing the money people can earn from their appwhich Apple likely won’t even allow in the App Store.


    fact



    Rippln is much more than one app. Rippln is a brand new distribution model incorporating a PLATFORM that gives individuals theability to track their social graph (i.e. personal relations of internet and mobile users) across the world and to be rewarded for thevalue they create in the marketplace as they share a new app, product, or service. Subsequently, the amount of money people canearn is based on the size of their Ripple and their product distribution.
    Rippln will develop and acquire its OWN brand of apps for fans to use and will distributephysical hard good products through the Ripple as well. The income potential is very real.
    The focus of Rippln’s tech team for the past eight months has been developing and innovating the Rippln Incentivized Sharingplatform, and laying the foundation for the upcoming Rippln product ecosystem. Currently, over 15 full-time engineers are workingbehind the scenes on the Rippln platform and more are being hired regularly. In addition, Rippln has partnered with a softwareprovider that has 14 years of experience and has processed over $1.2 billion in global transactions to track the Ripple.
    There are no guarantees in life; however, we believe that over time we will be one of the largest app networks in the world becauseour users will have the chance to get REWARDED when they refer something... unlike all other technology companies in this space. Weare committed to constantly evaluating all products and services we bring to market through the Ripple to provide a robust andattractive value proposition for all of our users.


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    myth #5 The Comp Plan pays people to promote Ripplnversus offering legitimate products.


    fact



    [COLOR=rgb(10.000000%, 10.000000%, 10.000000%)]FACT: [/COLOR]Nothing could be farther from the truth. First off, getting into the Ripple as a fan, with access to apps and innovative products,is free. Individuals who choose to participate in the Rippln Rewards program will earn a percentage of in-app purchases and othertransactions that take place within their Ripple. No money is made by referring others to refer others. Our model is the first evermodel to share the value taking place within a social network and customer transactions back with the people who shared thoseapps in the first place.
    To learn more about the direct selling industry and distinguish opinions from facts, we encourage everyone to visit the Direct SellingAssociations official website at: www.DSA.org.


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    myth #6 Rippln’s leaders aren’t credible or legitimate.


    fact



    There is mis-information and controversy posted on the internet about Rippln leaders that is unsupported. This seems to be driven bya few people who earn their living by ranking blogs, videos and content in search engines, often using negativity and blind accusationsto get higher rankings for their sites. Right now the Rippln brand name and its founders are popular keywords and thus a massiveopportunity for these types of individuals to capitalize on the search traffic. This traffic turns into money for them as people click adson their sites or join their lists. It’s an unfortunate side of the internet that people earn money this way. Just because you saw it on awebsite, it doesn’t mean it’s true.
    The reality is that the Rippln leadership team is uniquely qualified to successfully execute Rippln’s vision. Our team possesses greatcredentials and represents many of the most proven and talented people existing in this space. Learn more about the key individualswho are driving Rippln’s formation and launch:


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    Meet some of the Rippln team
    [COLOR=rgb(10.000000%, 10.000000%, 10.000000%)]Brian Underwood[/COLOR], Rippln CEO, is a successful serial entrepreneur with a long history of global innovation and forward thinking. Heis a global innovator, a title he’s earned over 20 years of building companies that transcend the marketplace. As a youthful motivator,he leads with authenticity, a team mentality and a passionate heart. He is a new breed of CEO. Renown as a world-class strategistand thought leader in the mobile space, Brian established one of the most recognizable brands in text marketing, iZigg and 90210mobile. As iZigg’s CEO, he did it in under a year. Today, as CEO of Rippln, his sights are set on creating a movement that will redefinethe interplay of social networks and mobile commerce. He and his team have developed a mobile platform that will sail in “BlueOcean” territory, using an enabling technology that is powered by the people to reward the people. It is based on a strategy of mobileengagement, gamification and transformation. The result will be a new monetary model for “Eyeball Acquisition”.
    [COLOR=rgb(10.000000%, 10.000000%, 10.000000%)]Jonathan Budd[/COLOR], Rippln co-founder, turned to the home-based business industry after earning his bachelor’s degree in Psychology. By theage of 26, he was one of the fastest and youngest success stories in the history of direct sales. He launched Empowered Entrepreneurs Inc. toteach others the principles of entrepreneurship and modern day marketing that fueled his success. This company has served nearly 100,000customers and is one of the largest training and empowerment companies in the industry, with hundreds of thousands a week tuning intoJonathan’s daily emails and inspirational messages. Jonathan plays an active role in defining Rippln’s marketing, product strategy andorganizational growth. Additionally, he pulls from a wealth of his relationship resources to ensure the company is always one step ahead ofthe game. His visionary leadership and product and marketing expertise are helping drive Rippln toward billion-dollar success.


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    [COLOR=rgb(10.000000%, 10.000000%, 10.000000%)]Ann Erlandsson [/COLOR]is Rippln’s Chief Financial Officer. A certified public accountant originally from Sweden, she has advised directselling companies on a range of financial controls, planning and other accounting matters for several years. As a result, she hasdeveloped a unique and broad understanding of the business model associated with the payment of commissions, and the cost ofgoods sold related to direct sales. Ann guards the cash management of Rippln to ensure longevity for its distributors.
    [COLOR=rgb(10.000000%, 10.000000%, 10.000000%)]Jenifer Grace [/COLOR]serves as the legal advisor for the Rippln team. After years of experience in litigation gained at a downtown Dallas lawfirm, Jenifer sought to help entrepreneurs build and sustain their future. Jenifer has gained years of experience in the industry byassisting clients with corporate formation and governance, advice on state and federal regulations related to their business modeland when necessary in the courtroom. Jenifer obtained her law degree from Southern Methodist University School of Law in 2000,then assisted the Dallas Court of Appeals as a Briefing Clerk. With a passion for the individual distributor, Jenifer represents Rippln toensure the vision of the founders is built on a solid foundation.
    [COLOR=rgb(10.000000%, 10.000000%, 10.000000%)]Craig Jorgensen [/COLOR]lives and breathes all things design and technology. Starting in the high pressure world of traditional print andmarketing, he saw the opportunity to catch and ride the technology wave while combining it with his expert design skills. Craig isknown for healthily obsessing over projects, treating each and every one as his very own. This special trait along with his family valuesand attitude towards life and business have made him a linchpin for Rippln as he directs creative and product development.
    [COLOR=rgb(10.000000%, 10.000000%, 10.000000%)]Jana Lightfoot [/COLOR]heads Rippln’s Global Systems and Commission Rewards Platforms. With more than 17 years experience in business,she has created and managed global systems that have supported hundreds of thousands of customers and have grown sales from$0 to $300 million in over 30 countries. Jana’s experience, versatility and passion for streamlining business processes make herexceptionally well qualified for her leadership role on the Rippln team.


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    If you have questions or feedback, we can be reached at:[COLOR=rgb(100.000000%, 100.000000%, 100.000000%)]support@rippln.com [/COLOR]or [COLOR=rgb(100.000000%, 100.000000%, 100.000000%)]compliance@rippln.com[/COLOR]We would love to hear from you.

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    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Rippln right now is a bunch of empty promises lead generator that managed to suck in 1 million email addresses for NOTHING except empty promises. It is true that it is neither MLM nor Ponzi nor Pyramid... AT THIS TIME. It is NOTHING.
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    Brainwashing much Rippln?

    Some of these folk are gonna look pretty stupid in a few months. I'll take that back, they look pretty stupid now.

    Oh and any sign of the world changing App in any of the App stores yet?



    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    I wouldn't be caught dead at one of these brainwashing events! WTF

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    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    Rippln right now is a bunch of empty promises lead generator that managed to suck in 1 million email addresses for NOTHING except empty promises. It is true that it is neither MLM nor Ponzi nor Pyramid... AT THIS TIME. It is NOTHING.
    If and when they get their app launched, it will no longer be just the million or so people who decided to give Rippln their email address, it will be all their contacts as well. From Rippln's TOS:

    3. Communications; Data Collection/ Privacy; Contacts.

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    (c) Contacts.
    As part of your usage of our Products, we provide you the opportunity to connect automatically with your friends. We employ various techniques in order to facilitate friends finding each other on our service, including offering contact importer tools to facilitate adding to your contacts (including Facebook Friends and contacts in your address book) so that you can more readily ask your contacts to join and communicate with you through the Rippln Products. With your permission, we will access your address book and import your contacts’ names, email address, phone numbers, image, geographic location and Facebook IDs to facilitate automatic connection with your friends. We do this only for contact matching to help your friends and you find each other. Also, when you invite friends to the service, we will access your Address Book and we will import your contacts names and phone numbers in order to facilitate the invitation. We may allow other users to use contact information they already have about you, such as your email address or your name, to determine if You are a Product user. If you are already a Product user, then others can add you to their contact list by choosing your name off of a list of users available via our products. We make your name available to others to help your Contacts find you. We also give you an opportunity to invite your Contacts to register at the Rippln Site and download the Products, and in connection with that activity you may provide us access to third party contact information. When you click to invite one or more friends to join Rippln an SMS invite is sent from you from your phone. By using the importer tools or otherwise assenting to such activities, you agree that you are providing us with consent for such activities.
    So when someone downloads the Rippln communicator app they not only agree to share their phone number, email, facebook etc. etc. they agree to share the same information of all the people in their contact list, address book, facebook friends list etc. They might not care that their info will be sold and resold with countless bizzop spammers but will all their contacts (who never opted in) feel the same way?

    I find it interesting that the core Rippln "Communicator" app isn't available for download yet. In the post Dallas hype **** circle jerk updates the delay was attributed to waiting for the Apple app store to approve the app. A week or so later it was pointed out that the Apple app developer website had been hacked last month and THAT is what was holding things up. Well the dev site was down for almost a week so almost a week of the delay might be blamed on that but wasn't the app originally slated to be released months ago? They knew they were hoops to jump through so why did they great business visionaries wait till after the company went "live" to see if Apple was going to bounce them out on their ear or not?

    I came accross a somewhat paint by numbers version of their comp plan. Looks like claims that this is no longer a pyramid scheme might be a little exaggerated:

    HOW MUCH MONEY CAN YOU EARN IN THE RIPPLE?


    Just the residual income potential from player engagement bonus =


    20 Players in your entire payable ripple covers all your
    monthly costs. The ripple is FREE at that point.


    100 Players in your payable ripple covers your phone
    bill, plus cable and Internet.


    1000 Players in your payable ripple pays your mortgage
    every month, or more.


    10,000 Players in your payable ripple is a $130,000 per
    year income, completely passive and residual.


    100,000 Players in your payable ripple is a $1,600,000 per year income, completely
    passive and residual.


    This does not include ANY of the other income you can earn as products flow through the Rippln Eco-System.
    Imagine all the in-app purchases. Imagine all the hot new consumer electronic gadgets we love to buy. Imagine
    the revenue from sharing hot new apps and getting paid. Imagine open authentication. The income from
    players engagement bonus is JUST the start. It’s limitless where we can go from there.


    Do you see why it’s SO INVALUABLE to start building your ripple today, and building your team of Players? This
    is a path to complete financial freedom... with the most innovative and fun conversation to earn your living
    we’ve ever seen.
    So completely separate from any legitimate retail commissions you can earn $1,600,000 a year just for encouraging 100,000 to pay to become Rippln affiliates. THAT is a pyramid scheme and not a very well paying one at that.

    But hey, the products ARE in the pipeline, Rippln has been crowing about beating Apple to the market with their very own SmartWatch. They appear to have entered into some form of agreement to market Martian's Passport wristwatch. You know those little bluetooth ear pieces you can clip to your ear and talk through your cell phone with? It's basically one of those, only with a wrist strap. PC Magazine summed it up this way in their product review:

    All told, the Martian Passport Watch is an interesting novelty, but it's too expensive and too limited to justify the $300 price. Its OLED screen and speakerphone function feel more like a next-gen smart watch from the late 1990s or early 2000s than a must-have accessory for 2013.
    But Rippln floggers think it makes them look like "James Bond."

    They're also rolling out what they are just sure will become the next viral game app, Photo Guessaroo. This too will roll out as soon as the Apple app store gives it the A-OK and I believe it should pass with flying colors. Why? It did when it was released last year. Yea, the game was in the app store and Guessaroo, the company then behind it had a website and a facebook page, both are now offline. A Google site for it still remains:

    Photo GuessARoo - What is it

    Photo Guessaroo... it is a phrase that has been popping up all over the Internet lately, but what is it? It is one of the hottest mobile gaming apps to hit the the Google Play Store and Apple iTunes App Store in a long time. Whether you like sharing photos with friends or playing games on your mobile devices... Photo Guessaroo is for you! It is that ability to cater to multiple verticals that allows this app to differentiate from its competition. But, what really puts this app on a different level is that it is the worlds first photo guessing app where the content is user generated. You read that right, you are putting yourself into the game by sharing your photos and the app will format them and put them into the game!

    You will be able to either upload an existing photo from your mobile device or take a new one from your mobile devices camera and then turn into a puzzle to be entered into the game to be played by all! You will be asked to zoom into a specific part of the image to try an make it un-recognizable to someone who is trying to guess what it is. Then you will give it a simple description that describes your photo in a word or two... Photo Guessaroo will take care of the rest! It will convert the image and insert it into the game for everyone to try and solve!


    When solving a puzzle, you will be given a selection of letters below the picture and some blank spaces to let the person know how many characters the simple description is. You will not be allowed to move onto a new puzzle until you solve the puzzle you are currently on. If you get stuck... you can either ask a Facebook friend for help, or use your virtual coins to get clues. Once you solve the puzzle, not only will you move onto the next level... but you will also earn more virtual coins to use. The best part is, you will be able to trade in those virtual coins for real cash... yes, you will be able to get paid to play Photo Guessaroo.
    So, how "viral" did this game go after it was launched last year? A Google cache of the now deleted facebook page gives a clear indication:

    Guessaroo.jpg

    That facebook page was created on November 29th of 2012 and the Google cache snapshot was taken on June 5th of this year, and in that time Photo Guessaroo garnered 16 "Likes." Wow, that's massive viral growth but it's sound strategy, the brains behind Rippln have yet to demonstrate the technical ability to launch an app of their own and I bet they got the picture guessing game cheap. Rippln is the echo chamber of hype I have no doubt they can sell their "players" a bunch of over priced under featured "smart" watches and they sure as hell can get a lot more than 16 people to "Like" a game that almost vanished without a trace before they scooped it out of the app store trash bin.
    Last edited by GlimDropper; 08-17-2013 at 08:56 PM.
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    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    Speaking of Photo Guessaroo... I think Underwood just committed social media seppuku by blaming Apple for rippln's marketing mistake. They've been pushing this Sept. 5th-8th window for release, knowing that it might be delayed or rejected.

    Facebook sepukku: https://t.co/ajW7d4Z1z5

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    I'm surprised it was released. I really am.

    And it looks like the people on Facebook don't care that Underwood didn't apologize. So I'm just a big fat idiot all around.

    That doesn't for one minute mean people will actually make money from this app, or that it'll go viral. Even assuming they have the userbase they claim. Social media engagement is <3K unique individuals, usually the same ones, daily. It's one thing to have a big list of names, it's another to get them to do something you want, and something entirely else to make something go viral.

    Photo Guessaroo is a distraction from the 5-month late Rippln Communicator, of which only mock-ups exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by felgercarb View Post
    And it looks like the people on Facebook don't care that Underwood didn't apologize. So I'm just a big fat idiot all around.
    oh-BLOODY-dear

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Hahah yeah, I saw that. Juan is in for a rude awakening.

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    Re: Is Rippln a pyramid scheme? MLM? fun game? You decide.

    Did you guys know they're making up user numbers on rippln.com a la the javascript spinner from wazzub?

    https://plus.google.com/109752959453...ts/WGgpMoxhs8R

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    Quote Originally Posted by felgercarb View Post
    Did you guys know they're making up user numbers on rippln.com a la the javascript spinner from wazzub?

    https://plus.google.com/109752959453...ts/WGgpMoxhs8R

    Excellent find. I can't say I'm surprised though.

    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    WOW! a "company" that supposedly has 1.4 million members posts an important update & has has only 745 views in four days.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoilU8yrgs0


    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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