Thread: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

Nancy has somehow got it in her head that Lynn, Patrick, and I are in the business of selling Bitcoin. She regularly makes reference to our involvement in a Bitcoin scam based out of Texas. I have never sold a Bitcoin to anyone. My only 'involvement' with Bitcoin has been to write about it on occasion, and a few months back I taught a class on how the currency works. I think it is ridiculous to imagine Nancy now in the role a consumer advocate warning people about Bitcoin. Even funnier is the notion that she probably believes she is somehow 'getting even' with us by bashing Bitcoin.

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She still thinks I am Luke Eggleston. Nothing more than a PR campaign to try to sanitize her Ponzi image. If she was serious she would get out of WakeUpNow and Strongbrook. At least she wasn't the last time I looked.

Her Ohio trial cannot come soon enough for me. Now that is going to be one fun trial to watch. Only wish I could be there for it when it does happen.

She, or PI she hired , got the Eagle's name wrong :)

Luke Eggleston - is a PGA golf pro
Duke Ellington - some might think of is a Jazz composer, died in 1974


Here It is, the true real name of Eagleone: ... Sky Lukewaker

Originally Posted by NikSam

She, or PI she hired , got the Eagle's name wrong :)

Luke Eggleston - is a PGA golf pro
Duke Ellington - some might think of is a Jazz composer, died in 1974


Here It is, the true real name of Eagleone: ... Sky Lukewaker

Originally Posted by JamesParis

I have never sold a Bitcoin to anyone. My only 'involvement' with Bitcoin has been to write about it on occasion, and a few months back I taught a class on how the currency works. I think it is ridiculous to imagine Nancy now in the role a consumer advocate warning people about Bitcoin. Even funnier is the notion that she probably believes she is somehow 'getting even' with us by bashing Bitcoin.

You just pimping bitcoin in the hope to profit from the suckers who get roped in....

Originally Posted by okosh

You just pimping bitcoin in the hope to profit from the suckers who get roped in....

You are really a piece of work. I guess anything you don't understand is a scam, and from the comments I have been reading here that probably includes quite a lot. If you have the notion to become informed, read what is happening in the news yesterday and today regarding Bitcoin. Before you start crying about this being off topic, keep in mind that I am replying to YOUR post.

Originally Posted by JamesParis

You are really a piece of work.

Yep...I don't miss a trick and I see right through you....

Originally Posted by JamesParis

If you have the notion to become informed, read what is happening in the news yesterday and today regarding Bitcoin.

Yes I now all about how you and your fellow bitcoin pimps have managed to pump the value of a bitcoin to like $800-900......
Really got to feel sorry for the poor suckers who buy in now and do their arse when this bubble finally bursts...

I think more fun will happen when people start withdrawing their bitcoins,
we will see exchanges disappearing, exchanger sites being shut down, bank account freezes, TAX evasion charges, seizures and all that fun.

None, i repeat, none in US exchanging bitcoins legally (up to 5 years).
Some states now consider bitcoin an unregistered financial instrument or a security (some double digits years)

Albert Rosebrock cyberstalking Jim Paris on Amazon.com?

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That is the best review you could get (considering the source)
Haha, what a moron , he thinks that names of Judges and Attorneys and court proceedings released to the public are classified :)


Did he actually buy your book ?

Originally Posted by NikSam

Did he actually buy your book ?

Did anyone actually buy the book??

It looks to me like Alsy Walsy has a crushy wushy on Nancy Pancy.


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Albert Rosebrock - YouTube

And I am not sure exactly what this means, but these "tags" came up as part of a google search.

Albert Rosebrock | Legal Newsline

Tag: Albert Rosebrock

And if someone approaches you at the mall wearing one of these on his lapel, may just be Al. So we can be pretty sure he is either bad at math, or has no compunction when it comes to taking people's money for a questionable opportunity.

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Originally Posted by okosh

Did anyone actually buy the book??

I pirated it and I confessed to James about it :)

Originally Posted by NikSam

PS: BTW, James, reading your PS Book, i pirated it, even that it is $0 today, still could not force my hand to press "buy" button. asked someone else to send me a copy :) You can sue me for that.

Originally Posted by JamesParis

So you thought it better to steal a copy than accept a free copy? Have fun :)

Originally Posted by NikSam

I pirated it and I confessed to James about it :)

Great news....I was starting to get concerned that some poor schmuck had actually paid for the "poor me self promotion" dribble he called a book.....

Check out the new NJF Global website What Happened To NJF Global Group? | NJF Global Group News | Not Associated With NJF Global Group or Profitable Sunrise

The end ios coming closer for ponzi jo. I am sure the court documents will be most interesting reading.

The domain name of njfglobalgroup.com expired on October 21
And James took it over after the hold period

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Registrant Name: Paris James
Registrant Organization: Paris Lending
Registrant Street: 1500 Beville Road #606-223
Registrant City: Daytona Beach
Registrant State/Province: Florida
Registrant Postal Code: 32114
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: 3862350276
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Registrant Fax: 
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Registrant Email: jim@christianmoney.com

Originally Posted by NikSam

The domain name of njfglobalgroup.com expired on October 21
And James took it over after the hold period

I thought he posted to contribute but this means he posted just to use realscam forum to drive more traffic to his sites....

Originally Posted by JamesParis

Nancy has somehow got it in her head that Lynn, Patrick, and I are in the business of selling Bitcoin.

As far as the Paris/Lynn/PPBlog Bitcoin conspiracy theory goes, I have never used Bitcoin and don't have a Bitcoin account. I have noticed, however, that the scammer's wing has adopted Bitcoin as a vehicle of choice, just as the scammer's wing had adopted Liberty Reserve, Perfect Money, E-Gold, E-Bullion, AlertPay, EgoPay and SolidTrustPay as vehicles of choice.

The real irony is that all of these processors/money-movers could be/could have been used by legitimate people with legitimate purposes. A Mom and Pop shop in Canada, for instance, might have found AlertPay's presence in Montreal comforting. So, they might have used AlertPay as the payment vessel for their online store that sold signs other Canadian merchants could use to welcome American tourists. Mom and Pop easily could have no idea that AlertPay simultaneously was enabling Zeek Rewards and countless other HYIP schemes, contributing to almost incalculable financial pain globally.

Speaking of irony, I suppose there's a chance that Nancy and/or members of her Profitable Sunrise group learned about the Texas scheme involving Bitcoin by reading about it on the PP Blog and then following the links to the SEC's statement and the accompanying Investor Alert. The Blog's first story was published on July 23, 2013, very shortly after the SEC had announced the action. On Aug. 7, the PP Blog published a follow-up story linking to a story by Jordan Maglich on Forbes.com.

As the PP Blog pointed out on Aug. 7, the story about the Texas Bitcoin scheme would make for informative reading among members of Zeek Rewards. Why? The legal issues in the two schemes are similar: What constitutes an investment contract?

In any event, it does not appear as if Nancy has a clear understanding of the Texas case. The lawsuit was not against Bitcoin itself; rather, it was against a Texas man who allegedly was running a Ponzi scheme using Bitcoins as the draw through an enterprise known as Bitcoin Savings and Trust.

As the PP Blog reported on Aug. 17, a purported "opportunity" known as NEO Mutual was making its way around the Ponzi boards and advertising that it accepted Bitcoin. NEO Mutual, curiously enough, popped up right around the same time that Profitable Sunrise HYIP was tanking.

Like Profitable Sunrise, NEO Mutual purported to be in the bridge-loan business. Based on my analysis of public records and other documents, it looks as though some of the Profitable Sunrise money made its way to an entity in Panama that was using the same street address associated with "FelminaAlliance," another Ponzi-board "program" that became the subject of Investor Alerts from regulatory agencies. NEO Mutual also used an address in Panama.

Then, on the heels of NEO Mutual, something bizarrely called "CashCropCycler" popped up. CashCropCycler, now apparently DOA like NEO Mutual, claimed recruits received $10 just for signing up, a practice once used by the purportedly offshore and safe JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid scam. One of the lead pitchmen for CashCropCycler was “mmgcjm,” formerly of Zeek Rewards.

One of the issues in the Zeek Rewards case is the presence of money in "offshore" venues and the attendant legal thicket of attaching it to provide relief for victims. If a receiver gets appointed in the Profitable Sunrise matter, the same issues may surface. Some of the smuggest Zeekers are saying the receiver doesn't have a chance against them and that they're going to keep their Ponzi proceeds no matter what.

That's something to think about the next time someone tries to sell a "program" by planting the seed that "offshore" = "safe."

XX number of millions of dollars thrown at Profitable Sunrise are "offshore." Whether the victims who may have borrowed money or raided their retirement accounts or put their homes at risk to join the "program" have a chance to recover even a fraction of their investment is unclear.

Regardless, it's good that Nancy appears to be doing some ruminating about Bitcoin -- whether or not she read about the Texas action on the PP Blog.

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The Kansas Securities Commissioner has announced he has dismissed without prejudice the Notice of Intent issued against





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Defendant David P Cozzocrea has already settled with the State of Kansas:



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David P Cozzocreas' dave.cozzocrea page on Facebook

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Originally Posted by GlimDropper

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Poor sweet Cynthia, she's still waiting for Robert Craddock to get Zeek Rewards reopened. Hey, maybe Robert can fly to China with a power converter and give Roman a backrub, that should get Pro Sun back up and running in no time. Except Robert would need to hold a few fund raising conference calls first because Robert never does anything on his own dime, he needed all the Cynthia's of the world to pay the legal fees of fighting his own clawbacks.

Looks like this Cynthia Basinger woman is going to be heavily involved in a new program called fusion shopping network (or fusionentertainmentllc.com)

Originally Posted by busttheblock

Looks like this Cynthia Basinger woman is going to be heavily involved in a new program called fusion shopping network (or fusionentertainmentllc.com)

I saw that too BtB. They've said some commendable things about legitimacy and legality but haven't put out a comp plan yet. We'll take a look at it when they do.

In December 2012, I submitted a bank wire less than $10,000 to fund my profitable sunrise account. In January 2013, I submitted a second bank wire in excess of $10,000 to fund my profitable sunrise account. The funds were wired to a bank in Czechoslovakia and were 100% in the long haul program - so I lost everything. I kept receipts/records of the bank wires. I am seeking guidance/opinions from any of you regarding reporting requirements to the IRS and/or Treasury. For instance, when I file my taxes this year, do I need to report a foreign financial transaction on any of the IRS scheduled forms? Do I need to disclose a separate FBAR report?
On the 2013 IRS schedule B form (Part III – Foreign Accounts) it states the following:
You must complete this part if you (a) had over $1,500 of taxable interest or ordinary dividends; (b) had a foreign account; or (c) received a distribution from, or were a grantor of, or a transferor to, a foreign trust. At any time during 2013, did you have a financial interest in or signature authority over a financial account (such as a bank account, securities account, or brokerage account) located in a foreign country? If “Yes,” are you required to file FinCEN Form 114, Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR), formerly TD F 90-22.1, to report that financial interest or signature authority? If you are required to file FinCEN Form 114, enter the name of the foreign country where the financial account is located

On the FBAR section of IRS website, it states the following of who must file a FBAR: United States persons are required to file an FBAR if:
1. The United States person had a financial interest in or signature authority over at least one financial account located outside of the United States; and
2. The aggregate value of all foreign financial accounts exceeded $10,000 at any time during the calendar year to be reported.

In April 2013, I was lucky enough to find the realscam forum (obviously a few months too late) and immediately reached out to Lynndel at Eagle Research Associates, Inc., who has assisted and guided me in reporting my unfortunate situation to my state’s AG, to authorities in California and Ohio, and to federal authorities. I am now just looking to close this chapter of my life and want to make sure I’ve got it all reported correctly. Thanks for any input any of you can provide.

I am truly sorry to hear of your losses, Coach and Mentor.

With the size of your losses, I would highly consulting a tax professional with experience in dealing with the fallout from ponzi losses.

In the meantime, have a look at the reporting losses from Ponzi Schemes pages on the IRS website

A sample: