Thread: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

When you Google Profitable Sunrise, the thread at MMG is the #1 link on the page, and it is all thanks to Frabi for making it so. Our exchange managed to make it #1

If you Google: Profitable Sunrise All State and Federal Filings and Court Cases, Eagle's website is listed #1.

As of now I plan to attend the hearing Monday morning, it's about a 2 hour drive for me. I'll take a camera and see if I can get a picture of Nanci Jo!

Originally Posted by Gregg

As of now I plan to attend the hearing Monday morning, it's about a 2 hour drive for me. I'll take a camera and see if I can get a picture of Nanci Jo!

I hope you can make it, as I would love to know how many people show up for the hearing. I'm sure Nanci Jo will need a box of Kleenex she will be so distraught. But then she is an actress.

Originally Posted by Gregg

As of now I plan to attend the hearing Monday morning, it's about a 2 hour drive for me. I'll take a camera and see if I can get a picture of Nanci Jo!

You will not be able to use a camera in the courtroom or maybe even in courthouse.

If you planning to be present at the hearing and get a picture you will need a partner who can take pictures outside, courthouse guards might demand to surrender your camera to storage,
you might not get a chance/time to catch Nanci in shot and also be present in courtroom.

You can also get the transcript of the hearing for a fee i believe, right after the hearing.

I'm in Piqua, Ohio (former haunt of friend Brad...oh whatever last name he's using this week) on my way to Bryan for tomorrow's hearing.

In Bryan, in a jacuzzi suite and watching Duck Dynasty, life don't get much better than this!

Well, the hearing was postponed until August 5, but my AC was out yesterday and I can't spend a night without AC, so no harm. I got a good look at Nanci Jo's neck of the woods and I'll be going back.

Hmm, must have needed more time for the insanity defense plea.

No, I half expected it, going was mostly an excuse to get out of my house with no AC. I know Nanci Jo reads this thread, so I'd just like to tell her, yes, it was me in the red Mustang taking pictures of your house. I'll use them in something I'm still writing if I find the right place to put it. And yes, I heard whomever was in the house, I may have even seen you spying a look out the window. Nanci Jo, the reckoning is here, this is as good as your life is going to get for years. Your family is going to lose the house, you're going to have to admit that it wasn't just a cased of you getting your name used and you didn't have anything to do with it. You helped steal AT LEAST $30 million, how many families are going to lose everything, and not just from following you into Profitable Sunrise. No, Nanci Jo, you led them into handfuls of these schemes with your fake faith and prosperity Gospel gibberish. Get used to it Nanci Jo, savor every minute of the now, because you have a very bad future in front of you and it's all downhill from here for a very long time. You can't even file for Bankruptcy protection and we're not even at the criminal phase yet. Not a peep yet from the Federal Government and the IRS, not an audit, mind you, though that;s coming too, but you're going to have to come to Jesus with the CID for at a minimum your fake charity.

Good Luck, Nanci Jo, you and everyone around you is going to need it.

gee, for an Atheist I can get downright pentecostal sometimes....

Originally Posted by Gregg

No, I half expected it, going was mostly an excuse to get out of my house with no AC. I know Nanci Jo reads this thread, so I'd just like to tell her, yes, it was me in the red Mustang taking pictures of your house. I'll use them in something I'm still writing if I find the right place to put it. And yes, I heard whomever was in the house, I may have even seen you spying a look out the window. Nanci Jo, the reckoning is here, this is as good as your life is going to get for years. Your family is going to lose the house, you're going to have to admit that it wasn't just a cased of you getting your name used and you didn't have anything to do with it. You helped steal AT LEAST $30 million, how many families are going to lose everything, and not just from following you into Profitable Sunrise. No, Nanci Jo, you led them into handfuls of these schemes with your fake faith and prosperity Gospel gibberish. Get used to it Nanci Jo, savor every minute of the now, because you have a very bad future in front of you and it's all downhill from here for a very long time. You can't even file for Bankruptcy protection and we're not even at the criminal phase yet. Not a peep yet from the Federal Government and the IRS, not an audit, mind you, though that;s coming too, but you're going to have to come to Jesus with the CID for at a minimum your fake charity.

Good Luck, Nanci Jo, you and everyone around you is going to need it.

She might not be going much of anywhere if they put cuffs or a GPS anklet on her...!

Ponzi Jo will show up w/ a bible in her hands, she will call out to the lord. She will be so overwhelmed by the evil Roman taking advantage of her group members, there will be health issues.

She will still go to jail. All the elements are present.
She cant produce a Roman(I believe he is at Uinvest now), she is getting a decent stretch.

I'm sure she's going to jail, the big question to me is, will her husband? His position at the bank is going to be a big thing against him. I hope more than a few of the fake prosperity Gospel preachers she had tagging along will go with her.

Lyndell,
Have you heard from many victims?
Ponzi Jo was a singularly good con artist in her own way. The idea she would scam was unfathomable to the type who fell for her dogma. (It was LOL to anyone rational)

What are $ #'s of losses? More than $10k rare? 100's or 1000's of people?

People understand losses are actual seasoned funds, not Tolkienesque Easter Gift PS cash?

Originally Posted by Fat City, LA

Lyndell,
Have you heard from many victims?
Ponzi Jo was a singularly good con artist in her own way. The idea she would scam was unfathomable to the type who fell for her dogma. (It was LOL to anyone rational)

What are $ #'s of losses? More than $10k rare? 100's or 1000's of people?

People understand losses are actual seasoned funds, not Tolkienesque Easter Gift PS cash?

I stopped counting after 200, but my guess is that it was close to 300 that contacted us. The dollar amounts ranged from several hundred dollars to several in the $100,000 Dollar range and every thing in between. If I had to guess an average amount of loss from all who contacted me, it would average around $30,000 per person. It could have been less, but I was too busy responding to keep count.

Those who contacted us early enough we were able to help them get their money back through bank wire reversals. Then the SEC froze the bank accounts and that stopped every thing. Then all we could do was tell people to file complaints and with which agencies. I think we were able to help about 100-125 get their bank wires reversed. Only wish it had been more.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

I stopped counting after 200, but my guess is that it was close to 300 that contacted us. The dollar amounts ranged from several hundred dollars to several in the $100,000 Dollar range and every thing in between. If I had to guess an average amount of loss from all who contacted me, it would average around $30,000 per person. It could have been less, but I was too busy responding to keep count.

Those who contacted us early enough we were able to help them get their money back through bank wire reversals. Then the SEC froze the bank accounts and that stopped every thing. Then all we could do was tell people to file complaints and with which agencies. I think we were able to help about 100-125 get their bank wires reversed. Only wish it had been more.

100-125 is NO joke. Nice work.

Originally Posted by Gregg

I'm sure she's going to jail, the big question to me is, will her husband? His position at the bank is going to be a big thing against him. I hope more than a few of the fake prosperity Gospel preachers she had tagging along will go with her.

Anyone else get the feeling a SERIOUS jail stretch is coming soon for ponzi pimps. The judicial/economic/cultural climate is ripe for vicious messages to be send.

Originally Posted by Fat City, LA

100-125 is NO joke. Nice work.

Thanks, but I was just guessing off the top of my head as to how many contacted us and the total number we were able to help. Some got back to us letting us know they got their money back, others did not. I haven't had the time to get the actual numbers, but one day I will. The number I wish we knew is how many people we prevented from joining this in the first place.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

... The number I wish we knew is how many people we prevented from joining this in the first place.

If you stopped at least one person from loosing their life savings, and i believe you did.
Everything what was done is worth it.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

The number I wish we knew is how many people we prevented from joining this in the first place.

I bet it is huge, 150,000 views on this thread. 1/2 a million on Banners Broker. I am sure it cuts both ways, but anyone who took a good hard look kept their wallet in their pocket on this and many other questionable deals.

Originally Posted by NikSam

If you stopped at least one person from loosing their life savings, and i believe you did.
Everything what was done is worth it.

EagleOne might have saved someone's life because of this.
Oops sorry, everyone who participated in the forum might have.
Let us remember that there are news of people committing suicide because of scams like this.
Thanks everyone! And keep it up!

I would just like to add that, as a "victim" of Profitable Sunrise, Nanci Jo Frazer and John Schepcoff, Lyndell has been a great resource and a tireless advocate to bring these scam artist to justice. I just wish I would have known about Lyndell and Realscam before I got suckered into the ponzi and lost a butt load of money. Unfortunately, I was one of many who listened to the self proclaimed financial expert John Schepcoff and "stepped up to the plate" with this now known fraud. I anxiously await the outcome of Nanci Jo Frazer's court battles and hope Schepcoff too gets a summons to appear in either state or federal court. They are no better than a crack head peddling crack from a crack house next to a high school the way they illegally promoted Profitable Sunrise. Another unfortunate is white collar crimes are not subjected to mandatory minimums like crack dealers are.

Originally Posted by Coach & Mentor

They are no better than a crack head peddling crack from a crack house next to a high school the way they illegally promoted Profitable Sunrise. Another unfortunate is white collar crimes are not subjected to mandatory minimums like crack dealers are.

You are right and I hope law enforcement starts taking a harder look at the ponzi pimps just like the do drug dealers. Places like real scam have already identified the king pins of the ponzi world so it shouldnt be that hard to go after them. Ponzi Jo (who ever started that now has me saying it) is going to prison. It may take 5 years to get it settled but she is on her way. Her husband may weasel out of it I dont know.

Originally Posted by NikSam

If you stopped at least one person from loosing their life savings, and i believe you did.
Everything what was done is worth it.

I agree 1000% percent.

Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell

You are right and I hope law enforcement starts taking a harder look at the ponzi pimps just like the do drug dealers. Places like real scam have already identified the king pins of the ponzi world so it shouldnt be that hard to go after them. Ponzi Jo (who ever started that now has me saying it) is going to prison. It may take 5 years to get it settled but she is on her way. Her husband may weasel out of it I dont know.

I brought it here, not my original thought.

On the last PS member facebook page=Charlie Steen was 1st to use it.
Charlie was not right on an emotional level for months after Roman forgot his Easter Gift. His posting were semi-insane.