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    The guy is addicted to online scams.

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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    What is absolutely amazing to me is that he really believes he is this great financial guru and knows what he is talking about. He's lucky he can tie his shoes and balance his checkbook, and that is suspect.
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    Loving the Schepcoff threads - keep em coming! Someone asked about the new scam he is boasting. Below is an email from Schepcoff that was forwarded to me by an individual who was in Schepcoff's profitable sunrise downline.

    "I am extremely happy with this program!!! The best I have ever seen. **T here are 3 ways to earn passively** and an additional 2 if you sponsor people. I will go over them with you. Extremely Simple - No Logging In and doing anything in your back office from day to day. Increase My Cash Today - Home The owner is very visible and transparent and available to help with growing the company. A strong point is, it's in Hong Kong. China frowns on MLM so the owner Dr Luke Teng has set up multiple brick and mortar stores throughout China and Hong Kong where people can go and bid and pick up their winnings. Less then 10,000 involved in the USA. Industry leaders jumping in. Daily Profit Sharing 1.5% to 2% Per Unit. (no sponsoring required). Earn 20% Comm. on every unit sold the very next day! Company Owns Their Own E-Wallet - Dividends and Commissions in your E-Wallet and Cashed Out...The next day. High End Products of "value." Rolex, Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Apple... Winning Items are picked up at the local dealer.Very Few Sign Ups Needed for Very Large Revenue - Six Figures...quicker then anything else out there. You don't need to qualify with any recruits for commissions in this. I Joined on April 27, 2013 came in at 7 units $8,225 May 1, 2013 purchased 7 more units $8,225 . Total of $16,450"

    If you go to Schepcoff's new website: Increase My Cash Today - Home you can learn more about the Hong Kong program. I wonder if he is withdrawing his funds to his offshore bank account tied to his offshore international business corporation tied to his Nevada C corporation? I am sure he will be making a Youtube video on how to do that soon (for the second time) - you know, to protect his downline so they don't go to prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikSam View Post
    Looks like pre-programming for victims not to hold him responsible, he repeated it about 10 times, "You were the one responsible".
    Standard dodgy dodge. Paul "Zeek Ponzi" Burks said essentially the same thing: don't blame me.
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    This is what they "ALL" say after the fact. It is in the Ponzi Playbook, Page 3, last entry: NEVER, EVER take responsibility for your actions. Always blame the members for: being greedy, investing more than they could afford to lose, failing to do your own due diligence, we were duped/lied to just like you, you can only blame yourself as you are the only one responsible for your actions, yada, yada, yada.
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    Last edited by littleroundman; 05-14-2013 at 12:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    This is what they "ALL" say after the fact. It is in the Ponzi Playbook, Page 3, last entry: NEVER, EVER take responsibility for your actions. Always blame the members for: being greedy, investing more than they could afford to lose, failing to do your own due diligence, we were duped/lied to just like you, you can only blame yourself as you are the only one responsible for your actions, yada, yada, yada.
    Sheeeet. They are beginning to sound like politicians and we know that that is Baaad stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    This is what they "ALL" say after the fact. It is in the Ponzi Playbook, Page 3, last entry: NEVER, EVER take responsibility for your actions. Always blame the members for: being greedy, investing more than they could afford to lose, failing to do your own due diligence, we were duped/lied to just like you, you can only blame yourself as you are the only one responsible for your actions, yada, yada, yada.
    They get you coming and going. If some sillyhead tells them hey I just lost big money in a scam, seems they lost money in that scam too. Just losers all around, except on the new deal, this one is going to end differently for all parties I'm sure.

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    Or it could be just an affinity scam. Telephone "boiler room" talkers are trained to make up **** like that. Nothing like being a victim to establish some instant rapport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    They get you coming and going. If some sillyhead tells them hey I just lost big money in a scam, seems they lost money in that scam too. Just losers all around, except on the new deal, this one is going to end differently for all parties I'm sure.

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    Ribshaw, :) i think you over doing it a bit , you know, with constantly reminding you are a hooters babe, You could not have fooled me :) mjust sayin.

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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    A couple of things of note: On the first page of this thread, the alleged Ponzi scheme of Dale Joseph Edgar St. Jean and Gregory Dennis Tindall is addressed. Part of it involved a purported "bridge lending" program as an element in an overall securities fraud scheme.

    The Alberta Securities Commission has now found against St. Jean and Tindall, ruling specifically that "payments to TransCap and Strata-Trade investors were funded from their own and their fellow investors' money, 'by definition, an unsustainable 'Ponzi' scheme.'"

    Profitable Sunrise members perhaps will recall that Alberta was among the first jurisdictions to bring an Investor Alert against their "program." Longtime observers perhaps also will recall that Alberta citizens sometimes were on the line for conference calls hosted by JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid scammer Frederick Mann. It was pretty clear than JSS/JBP wanted its pitchmen to go after the so-called "warm market" of people within their sphere of influence: friends, family, social acquaintances. Some JSS/JPB pitchmen said they were managing both the JSS/JBP accounts of their recruits and the recruits payment-processor accounts.

    The warm market also was an element in the St. Jean/Tindall scam -- and it was particularly painful for some investors. According to the ASC ruling, one investor and his wife plowed $1.220 million into the scam, and two of their loved ones plowed about $432,000 into the scam.

    The scam raised about $52 million overall.

    Some highlights from the ASC findings:

    * Tindall's "current whereabouts are unknown."

    * The bridge-lending element may have been theoretical, given that offering materials stated "[t]he location of the commercial clients is not known at present but may include clients in North America or Western Europe."

    * "The evidence before us indicated that prospective TCC and STC investors often dealt directly only with sales agents for TCC or STC, not with St. Jean or Tindall."

    * "In response to a Staff demand for documents evidencing contracts for securities purchases, 'forward committing contracts' and bridge financing contracts, St. Jean responded that TCC was 'engaged in these business activities through other entities under private and confidential agreements' and '[t]herefore [did] not have any specific documentation respecting any specific trade transaction.'"

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    I know I am late with this, but profitable sunrise is now a hair store.

    What did I miss in the last month? I don't want to read 20 pages back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendaril View Post
    I know I am late with this, but profitable sunrise is now a hair store.

    What did I miss in the last month? I don't want to read 20 pages back.
    Hey Pal, good to have you back.

    Roman paid the Easter Gift as promised, more actually. He decided he no longer wanted to be a money changer and has taken a vow of poverty. Nancy Jo Frazier donated all the money she made recruiting folks to the OneFund and has shaved her head so that a child with cancer could have a beautiful wig made. The wig store is now part of that operation, even Ribshaw was so inspired he cut his flowing mullet for a child in need.

    Really it ended about as well if not better than most people expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendaril View Post
    I know I am late with this, but profitable sunrise is now a hair store.

    What did I miss in the last month? I don't want to read 20 pages back.
    Not much:

    Roman ran with the money as we predicted he would.

    Thirty-six states have filed either a warning or a cease and desist order against PS.

    Five Canadian Provinces have issued a warning against PS.

    The New Zealand authorities issued a warning about PS.

    The FSA issued a warning about PS.

    The SEC froze the foreign bank accounts he was using, and filed a Sumons for Roman, his brother, and all the other companies that Roman used to wire funds to their bank accounts to appear to answer questions, and they were all a no-show. They also filed for Injunctive Relief and was granted Injunctive Relief.

    Nanci Jo Frazer has amnesia and no longer can remember who Roman Novak is, and she is being cyber-stalked and cyber-bullied. She has declared that Jim Paris is Roman Novak, and Jim and I worked to destroy PS to promote our books, websites and get media attention; and last but not least Nanci Jo had her own investigative TV report WOTV-11, Toledo, but was too shy to appear on camera. My name is not Lynn Edgington, but Luke Eggelston according to Nanci Jo and her team of crack PI's.

    John Schepcoff declares everyone must be responsible for their own actions and not blame him for conning people into joining PS under him. You are to forget that his 30-years of financial experience made him assure everyone PS was a clean as a whistle and Roman was this Godly man. He is now promoting two new prorams that are 1,000% better than Zeek and PS based out of Hong Kong (where Roman went to move his servers).

    All the major promoters are telling people they should not have invested more than they can afford to lose, and we are all waiting to see which shoe drops next from the feds and the state officials.

    So as you can see, not much has happened since you have been gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendaril View Post
    I know I am late with this, but profitable sunrise is now a hair store.

    What did I miss in the last month? I don't want to read 20 pages back.
    Why not? Afraid your glasses will wear out?
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    https://www.facebook.com/profitables...wlegit?fref=ts

    Check out the top post. PS is coming back. He heard it from his upline, he has no reason to lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat City, LA View Post
    https://www.facebook.com/profitables...wlegit?fref=ts

    Check out the top post. PS is coming back. He heard it from his upline, he has no reason to lie.

    May need to click original size
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    Is it shut down for comments for everyone, or did I just get booted again? I saw that last night and wanted to chime in, but no can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    Is it shut down for comments for everyone, or did I just get booted again? I saw that last night and wanted to chime in, but no can do.
    Try to 'unlike' the page, sounds like that scammer blocked you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat City, LA View Post
    Try to 'unlike' the page, sounds like that scammer blocked you.
    I will check, but I don't think I had ever liked it, just bookmarked it for some periodic anti-spam smamming.
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    Ponzi Pimp Ken Russo in all his infamous glory, and I quote:

    "It simply means that I believe they are both honest and ethical people who tried their best to present a workable program. Folks like yourself caused great harm to thousands of willing Profitable Sunrise participants just as you are harming the willing participants of HRS. You claim that you wish to warn newcomers about the perils of the industry while displaying total disregard for many thousands of who do understand the risks and have chosen to participate."

    Hmm, Roman stole tens of millons of dollars and I caused more harm than he did by telling people this was a Ponzi. Your typical Ponzi pimp logical thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Folks like yourself caused great harm to thousands of willing Profitable Sunrise participants just as you are harming the willing participants of HRS.
    Are you behind HRS leaving everything up and running except the part where people get paid? That's a bad Eagle. Bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    Are you behind HRS leaving everything up and running except the part where people get paid? That's a bad Eagle. Bad!

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    I'm sorry. I didn't mean to but I got so excited at the vacation at such a luxurious resort I forgot and put everything on pause.
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    Anyone care to take a stab at deciphering this, and I quote from Just4fun @ MMG in response to my telling him he needed to file a complaint with the feds and the state where he lived:

    "If you don't already have enough to prosecute I don't think complaints are going to help the case. The more you talk the less I think you really know what is going on. Why even bother talking to you or file a complaint, it's just a waste of time. While you believe you have good intention, you are hurting a lot of people by not knowing enough to effectively handle your cases. If you have no idea how people will regain their money then you need to do more research so you can help people before they put their money in. Try to close down a Ponzi before it collects money instead of letting millions of dollars collected before jumping in. I still think that Easter Gift would've been paid if Gov did not intervene. Gov should have stepped in after April 1st to issue 1099. To intervene when people could no longer deposit for Long Haul is just stupid. We know what they were trying to do, greedy.

    By the way, all money were in foreign country as soon as wire transfer were successful. I don't know what you are talking about when you say SEC might be able to save money before they get oversea. Millions of dollars in foreign country, none in US, when Gov stepped in. If you don't know this you are just ignorant. If you want to save people you need to do your own homework and stop relying on forums like this one to feed you with tips and clues."

    Other than this is all my fault.
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    Conspiracies are "self-healing", in that any sort of evidence to "disprove" the conspiracy can be spun into evidence of the conspiracy.

    And now, the Ponzi pimps have constructed a conspiracy that clears them of any responsibility while passing that onto you and the evil government.

    It doesn't even have to be consistent. It's a DISTRACTION technique to keep the sheeple focuses on something OTHER than the ponzi pimps themselves.

    Here's a note from Glenn Beck on why it's important to debunk conspiracies... So that you can recognize more important issues in your life.

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