Thread: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

Originally Posted by Finix

Still better than counting cards in Vegas. No danger of being beat up by the casino staff either.

What a shame, in the movie Casino I rather like where they took a hammer to the hand of the cheater/scammer/cheerleader/ pimp! What the heck, that's just my opinion and my opinion and $3.00 just might buy a cup of coffee somewhere.

It was a good movie, wasn't it? Curiously, the casino in the movie was a front for money laundering for the mob.

Originally Posted by Finix

It all depends on where you are in world and how it's presented. When you eat at Hooters, are you paying for the food or for the view?

LOL, it depends on whether or not you're the waitress, Ptichka (sp?)...!

Well, this was a fine discussion. Better than beating the dead horse, I think, and a lot less depressing. Nite, all.

Does this sound like any sort of Doctor to you...a 'professional'? Umm...errr...

boulderdr says:
March 18, 2013 at 2:43 am
I find it hard to believe that Roman could just up and run. Where will he run to and where can he hide. The paper trail is enormous! Just seems preposterous to think that.
I can see why they are having trouble getting back up again. The negativity is building from those who don’t want us to be able to share in this business model. Fat wall street cats and banks using our money can reap these rates but we are not allowed to. Why, because we are a conglomerate group pooling out money together. Those are not the rules of the game. You either play by the rules or get blasted by the naysayers.
Hopefully tomorrow will be a bright opening for all of us.
boulderdr

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You can add Maine to the list of states who have issued an alert or warning about PS. Warning issued here:
Maine securities regulators warn of 'Profitable Sunrise' online investment scam

Yet...Where o where is the Fed authorities and prosecutors in all this? Where is the SEC?
It's the states, one by one. Kinda starnge. Just sayin..

Originally Posted by SkepticalOne

Yet...Where o where is the Fed authorities and prosecutors in all this? Where is the SEC?
It's the states, one by one. Kinda starnge. Just sayin..

How do you expect Federal government to act on an unidentified individual?
Wait, when guilty parties will be established and more likely it will be only against pitchmen.

Originally Posted by Nancetta

Does this sound like any sort of Doctor to you...a 'professional'? Umm...errr...




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well, yeah...............dr dumbass.

Originally Posted by Finix

When you deposit money into a HYIP, you are basically paying for the opportunity to make a very high return very fast.

No finix...When you deposit in a hyip you are paying for the opportunity to steal from those who deposit after you.....

Originally Posted by okosh

No finix...When you deposit in a hyip you are paying for the opportunity to steal from those who deposit after you.....

...and/or be screwed by the admin when he runs with the money...!;-)

Originally Posted by laidback

...and/or be screwed by the admin when he runs with the money...!;-)

This I would call one of the risks...Just like the SEC closing the hyip down is a risk....
But a persons sole intention when they deposit in a hyip is to steal the money of those who join after them....

Presumably, if they wanted to steal, there are better opportunities that don't present a risk to their investment capital. Risking own money is a form of speculation, in real ventures or virtual ones, makes no difference.

Originally Posted by Finix

Presumably, if they wanted to steal, there are better opportunities that don't present a risk to their investment capital. Risking own money is a form of speculation, in real ventures or virtual ones, makes no difference.

Oh but they are already stealing. As you know perfectly well, the leading pimps and shills for HYIPs do not deposit vast sums of their investment capital in HYIPs. They deposit modest sums and promote the scheme. The money they receive comes from their and others downlines which, as there are no real investments or profit from sales, is effectively and LEGALLY called stealing from the newer members.

The promoters are not playing the same game as the rest of the members. They are capitalizing on the opportunity to obtain referral fees instead of the opportunity to make a return on investment. In other words, the are reducing their own risks by increasing the risks for the rest since the referral fee money comes out from the same source.

Originally Posted by Finix

The promoters are not playing the same game as the rest of the members. They are capitalizing on the opportunity to obtain referral fees instead of the opportunity to make a return on investment. In other words, the are reducing their own risks by increasing the risks for the rest since the referral fee money comes out from the same source.

Correct, they are stealing willingly and knowingly and then there are all the shades of grey ending up with the totally innocent and deceived investor who is stealing without realizing it. But it's all theft at the end of the day - they just use a keyboard or fine words instead of a gun. It makes no difference whether it is on the internet or not. The money stolen or lost is real.

It stops being real money the moment it leaves the mainstream financial system. It enters a different system at that point and doesn't become real money until it re-enters the mainstream system again.

Outside of the pure money flow, the interesting aspect of the alternative monetary system is that it represents a shift of power of printing money from the government agencies to the hands of obscure and largely anonymous virtual entities. This shift of power is the real reason the governments feel threatened by alternative currencies.

Originally Posted by Finix

Outside of the pure money flow, the interesting aspect of the alternative monetary system is that it represents a shift of power of printing money from the government agencies to the hands of obscure and largely anonymous virtual entities. This shift of power is the real reason the governments feel threatened by alternative currencies.

I really don't buy that they feel threatened, other than from money launderers and tax cheats. Big business has no interest in alternative currencies until they become mainstream.

Money laundering and tax evasion by whom? The real world criminal organizations have no use for alternative currencies either, they have their own systems.

This brings us back to the point that this is nothing but virtual reality. Even the crime is virtual and not real. The only online programs that were shut down used the real banking system and offline promotion methods.

Originally Posted by baylee

From the zeek receiver website it appears to be one in eight.

actually, 88% will lose but that's by money, not number of people, and assumes 5 iterations of growth.

The HYIP model seems to give approximately the same distribution as the most successful economy in the world - skewed towards 1% of top earners.

Sorry to interrupt, but perhaps politics,virtual reality and ponzi busters and apologists views should take place in some other thread.
Finix, you are clogging here with non related to the Topic posts.

Be patient. Your "topic" is in the depth of VR now. If it comes back, you'll have something to talk about.