Thread: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

Looks like some more scammers here that I need to expose. It's a dirty job but someone has to do it.

Looks like there's a lot of people asking for "empirical evidence" in HYIP ponzis these days, eh, Ty ???



Profitable Sunrise thread on the CashFind HYIP ponzi forum

The DreamTeamMoney HYIP ponzi forum, Myriad Force ???

You're pushing your own scams on DreamTeamMoney forum ???

You disappoint me, Myriad,

Here I was thinking you were an ordinary, everyday troll, and you turn out to be a badly disguised HYIP ponzi pimp.

I'm shattered.

Whatever is the world coming to ???

Originally Posted by littleroundman

The DreamTeamMoney HYIP ponzi forum, Myriad Force ???

You're pushing your own scams on DreamTeamMoney forum ???

You disappoint me, Myriad,

Here I was thinking you were an ordinary, everyday troll, and you turn out to be a badly disguised HYIP ponzi pimp.

I'm shattered.

Whatever is the world coming to ???

Oh my, continued disingenuousness and mediocre narcissism by one of the homo-sapiens from the Anti-Empirical Evidence Cult. This will be a grand source of entertainment for me as we eaze on down the road of 2013.

I realize you all are up-in-arms and scratching your heads in your desperation of trying to find any dirt you can on Profitable Sunrise, and will deem them guilty by association with those that have truly ripped people off. Subsequently, in your inability to deliver the goods, you have begun the predictable process of making person attacks on me, simply because I am asking you for Empirical Evidence. I truly enjoy this type of banter, I really do, and look very much forward to more. Having said that, if or when you come up with any empirical evidence of Profitable Sunrise scamming people, please let me know ASAP. At that time, I will immediately sound the alarm.

This website is called Realscam - if you can prove to the watching world that Profitable Sunrise is a Real Scam, then please, offer up the evidence. Alternately, until that time - Poop or get off the pot.

Uh,

yes,

whatever you say.

See LRM, I am more on your side than you think. The fact that I was asking people in Profitable Sunrise for empirical evidence of loans, should prove that to you. At the same time, how many financial entities are there that are going to breach confidentiality with their clients they do business with. So we may never see that, unless we know someone that applies for a loan through Profitable Sunrise.

Originally Posted by Myriad Force

See LRM, I am more on your side than you think. The fact that I was asking people in Profitable Sunrise for empirical evidence of loans, should prove that to you. At the same time, how many financial entities are there that are going to breach confidentiality with their clients they do business with. So we may never see that, unless we know someone that applies for a loan through Profitable Sunrise.

Yeah, every bridge loan funder uses offshore payment processors.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Yeah, every bridge loan funder uses offshore payment processors.

I did a bank wire myself, and Roman adds the fee onto the corpus, sweet deal. Payment processors are for those who are depositing smaller amounts.
Were you attempting to insinuate there is some illegal activity afoot? Oh dear, is this the demise of Profitable Sunrise?

It still looks like usury to me.

The sad thing is, I truly believe Ty thinks he's the first smart ass HYIP ponzi shill we've seen and truly believes his snappy one liners are something new.

Never mind, all we need is a little patience and perseverance and he'll be gone the way of every HYIP ponzi shill, disappeared into the ether along with his good mate "Roman"

1.6% per DAY ????

2.0% per DAY ???

There's simply no need to look for any "empirical" anything.

Just sit back and wait for the inevitable.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

The sad thing is, I truly believe Ty thinks he's the first smart ass HYIP ponzi shill we've seen and truly believes his snappy one liners are something new.

Never mind, all we need is a little patience and perseverance and he'll be gone the way of every HYIP ponzi shill, disappeared into the ether along with his good mate "Roman"

1.6% per DAY ????

2.0% per DAY ???

There's simply no need to look for any "empirical" anything.

Just sit back and wait for the inevitable.

Yes, be patient with the process. Exciting game to watch.

As for now, my sites are set on the Packer-Viking rematch at Lambeau on Saturday.
Go Pack!!

While you're out there searching for your "empirical evidence" Ty, how about seeing if you can find us any evidence, empirical or otherwise, of anyone in the history of the planet who has been able to offer a 1.6% per DAY interest rate WITHOUT being a HYIP ponzi.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

While you're out there searching for your "empirical evidence" Ty, how about seeing if you can find us any evidence, empirical or otherwise, of anyone in the history of the planet who has been able to offer a 1.6% per DAY interest rate WITHOUT being a HYIP ponzi.

I would have to be equitably remunerated, to do your homework for you. Since I am not properly motivated to do so, I will have to pass. My only two online interests are NewGNI and Profitable Sunrise. Many corporations do far more than 1.6 per day, they just don't offer it on the streets. Instead, they let you invest in their stock, and give you a scrap here and there, through their "licensed securities dealers". For example, Prime Banks with their Prime Bank Debentures, Oil Companies, and Hard Money Lenders. So far so good with Profitable Sunrise, it could be a Ponzi, but we are into our 14 month with no empirical evidence of scamming whatsoever. Many are in pure profit from now on. NewGNI is rolling along smoothly too, but they only pay
1% a day or 6% a week depending on which program you are in, so they don't fit into your criteria. Unfortunately, NewGNI is now closed to new members. Sports Arbitrage is a nice way to make money doing nothing, were you fortunate enough to sign on before the December 1, 2012 cut-off date?

Originally Posted by Myriad Force

Prime Banks with their Prime Bank Debentures

"Prime banks," too, Myriad Force?

Rev. Walter Clarence Busby, one of the AdSurfDaily hucksters, was an alleged prime-bank swindler (10,000 percent) before he launched an HYIP/autosurf swindle known as Golden Panda Ad Builder, ASD's purported "Chinese" option. But the ASDers found out about Busby's SEC record and then threw him under the bus. After that, Busby tried to throw ASD under the bus.

Gotta tell you, Myriad Force, that prime-bank schemes perhaps are even more bizarre than traditional HYIP frauds. I mean, the stories are wild -- almost wild beyond imagination. There's an exceptionally famous one in Florida in which a U.S. woman who was running a prime-bank swindle found herself under arrest in Sri Lanka.

Sarasota couple jailed in Sri Lanka asks for quick return to U.S. | HeraldTribune.com

Any number of prime-bank swindlers currently are the subjects of court actions. Here's a story about an alleged 70-year-old prime-bank swindler who claimed to be a gospel singer and was convicted of cocaine trafficking in 1989, according to the SEC.

BULLETIN: SEC: Purported ‘Trust’ Was $15 Million Prime-Bank Ponzi Swindle Operated By Two 70-Year-Olds; 1 Of The Accused Hucksters Has Prior Conviction For Trafficking Cocaine; Investors Were Told ‘Department Of Homeland Security&#8

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Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins

It still looks like usury to me.

So much so that no legitimate business would even think about it.

Originally Posted by smather

Have you truly investigated or just doing a cursory evaluation? As far as we can tell, my close family, it is legitimate. Lets put it this way, we've put in money, waited our days, and withdrew every single penny we were promised. If its a scam, they aren't burning people yet. I tested it with $100 and got a return in 170 days of over $3,000.

You may have done your friend a disservice. I'm sure that soon the government will step in and try to regulate this or tax it but until then make some money.

But they will be when it implodes or is shut down by the authorities. If you have recruited anyone into it you will then have to explain to them why they or their downlines have lost their money - if they don't sue you first (which they are legally permitted to do)

If you and your close family believe that Profitable Sunrise is legitimate, then maybe you can explain to everyone why they are not licensed or authorized to issue loans or investments in either the USA or UK, which are two of the countries they are operating in and are legally obliged to be licensed in. (makes no difference if they are an online company and, anyway, they claim to be registered in the UK)

Originally Posted by Myriad Force

I would have to be equitably remunerated, to do your homework for you. Since I am not properly motivated to do so, I will have to pass. My only two online interests are NewGNI and Profitable Sunrise. Many corporations do far more than 1.6 per day, they just don't offer it on the streets. Instead, they let you invest in their stock, and give you a scrap here and there, through their "licensed securities dealers". For example, Prime Banks with their Prime Bank Debentures, Oil Companies, and Hard Money Lenders. So far so good with Profitable Sunrise, it could be a Ponzi, but we are into our 14 month with no empirical evidence of scamming whatsoever. Many are in pure profit from now on. NewGNI is rolling along smoothly too, but they only pay
1% a day or 6% a week depending on which program you are in, so they don't fit into your criteria. Unfortunately, NewGNI is now closed to new members. Sports Arbitrage is a nice way to make money doing nothing, were you fortunate enough to sign on before the December 1, 2012 cut-off date?

So your big "legal" programs are NewGNI and PS. Seriously?


So is Jurgen now claiming to be a "Christian?" At least you are consistent. Any other Ponzi's you belong to besides these two? And yes they are both Ponzi's.

Originally Posted by Lil Ol' Radical Me

But they will be when it implodes or is shut down by the authorities. If you have recruited anyone into it you will then have to explain to them why they or their downlines have lost their money - if they don't sue you first (which they are legally permitted to do)

If you and your close family believe that Profitable Sunrise is legitimate, then maybe you can explain to everyone why they are not licensed or authorized to issue loans or investments in either the USA or UK, which are two of the countries they are operating in and are legally obliged to be licensed in. (makes no difference if they are an online company and, anyway, they claim to be registered in the UK)

Makes no diff to smather if they are legal or not.....

Did you catch this bit?

Originally Posted by smather

I'm sure that soon the government will step in and try to regulate this or tax it but until then make some money.

Like I said in another post, the two types of people involved in this stuff are desperate and/or deceptive.

He just stated that everyone should get while the getting's good.....

Team Ude in PS is getting a whopping 2.17% daily on the Private Plan rather than the lowly 2.15% daily. This is because Dr. Ude is friends with Roman Novak. According to the backoffice on Dr. Ude's PS site, they are involved in "building churches, supporting orphanages and schools, and providing free professional counseling and rehabilitation to drug addicts, youth and the homeless". For those skeptical of such claims, Dr. Ude's number and address are available on his ministry website: http://kingdomactsfoundation.org

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa,

That's gotta be in the running for the funniest post of 2013, and, it's only January.

Goddie Ude ????

You're seriously using Goddie Ude as a reference ????

Man, have YOU got some bad luck and hard lessons coming to you this year.

Goddie-bloody-Ude,

now I really HAVE seen everything.

My goodness, what a disappointment you turned out to be, Ty.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa,

That's gotta be in the running for the funniest post of 2013, and, it's only January.

Goddie Ude ????

You're seriously using Goddie Ude as a reference ????

Man, have YOU got some bad luck and hard lessons coming to you this year.

Goddie-bloody-Ude,

now I really HAVE seen everything.

My goodness, what a disappointment you turned out to be, Ty.

Hey Ding-Dong, you are only revealing your venom and bitterness - the thoughtless announcing their thoughtlessness. You don't shoot the messanger. I don't know this Dr. Ude and did not provide an opinion either way,I am simply providing another way for people to "dig through Profitable Sunrise" - is that not the title of this thread? Yes or No.

Methinks you have a personal vendetta against me for being in Profitable Sunrise and slapping you too many times against the side of the face, asking you for any empirical evidence that you might have revealing that they are a RealScam.
Now do you or don't you.

Oh, and btw, what is the dirt you have on Dr. Ude? Even though I am a member of Profitable Sunrise, in essence I am still a neutral observer looking for empirical evidence of claims on both sides.

Enlighten me..

Originally Posted by Myriad Force

Team Ude in PS is getting a whopping 2.17% daily on the Private Plan rather than the lowly 2.15% daily. This is because Dr. Ude is friends with Roman Novak. According to the backoffice on Dr. Ude's PS site, they are involved in "building churches, supporting orphanages and schools, and providing free professional counseling and rehabilitation to drug addicts, youth and the homeless". For those skeptical of such claims, Dr. Ude's number and address are available on his ministry website: KAF | Hope and Inspiration

Take note from LRM's post and go and ask for concrete proof of all this help Dr. Ude gives to those in need, with facts and figures and find out a little more about his own business track record. Don't you understand that anyone can say anything on the internet? It is up to people to do their homework and find out how much is true and how much is smoke and mirrors. Anyone who has had the misfortune to be on the good Doctor's mailing list will know that there are very few get-rick-quick schemes that he hasn't pimped.

Originally Posted by Myriad Force

Methinks you have a personal vendetta against me for being in Profitable Sunrise and slapping you too many times against the side of the face, asking you for any empirical evidence that you might have revealing that they are a RealScam.
Now do you or don't you.

Nah, sorry,

I think you have me confused with someone who actually gives a damn.

Not only don't I have any sort of "vendetta" against you, personal or otherwise, in fact, I have no interest in "you" at all.

I simply don't care whether or not you find the type of "empirical" evidence necessary to satisfy your particular requirements.

I'm speaking "through" you, not "at" you.

Neither your opinion nor mine matters at all in this matter.

"Profitable Sunrise" is offering it's members a minimum of 1.6% a DAY ROI, an amount which is both unobtainable on a sustained basis.

If it's not "worth your time" to find any substantiation 1.6% per DAY is possible WITHOUT being a ponzi, fine, it's no skin off my nose if you do or you don't.

If it comforts you to believe you've "slapped me against the side of the face" I'm glad for you.

It didn't hurt a bit, believe me.

If you wish to worship in the "Church of Goddie Ude" go for it, and may your God be with you.

Don't believe a word anyone here on REALSCAM.com says.

I will make the slightest bit of difference to anyone here.

No one stands to lose or gain a cent, whichever way you decide to go.

IOW, never has the expression "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink" been more appropriate.

Personally, I'll be sorry to see you leave.

It's lots of fun coming up with absurd replies to your absurd behaviour, I'll miss you when the inevitable happens and Profitable Sunrise becomes just "another" collapsed HYIP ponzi in an increasingly growing number of collapsed HYIP ponzi frauds.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Nah, sorry,

I think you have me confused with someone who actually gives a damn.

Not only don't I have any sort of "vendetta" against you, personal or otherwise, in fact, I have no interest in "you" at all.

I simply don't care whether or not you find the type of "empirical" evidence necessary to satisfy your particular requirements.

I'm speaking "through" you, not "at" you.

Neither your opinion nor mine matters at all in this matter.

"Profitable Sunrise" is offering it's members a minimum of 1.6% a DAY ROI, an amount which is both unobtainable on a sustained basis.

If it's not "worth your time" to find any substantiation 1.6% per DAY is possible WITHOUT being a ponzi, fine, it's no skin off my nose if you do or you don't.

If it comforts you to believe you've "slapped me against the side of the face" I'm glad for you.

It didn't hurt a bit, believe me.

If you wish to worship in the "Church of Goddie Ude" go for it, and may your God be with you.

Don't believe a word anyone here on REALSCAM.com says.

I will make the slightest bit of difference to anyone here.

No one stands to lose or gain a cent, whichever way you decide to go.

IOW, never has the expression "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink" been more appropriate.

Personally, I'll be sorry to see you leave.

It's lots of fun coming up with absurd replies to your absurd behaviour, I'll miss you when the inevitable happens and Profitable Sunrise becomes just "another" collapsed HYIP ponzi in an increasingly growing number of collapsed HYIP ponzi frauds.

No one said it was going to be sustainable, they have 170 day and 240 day terms. Roman believes the 2.15% program will last two to five more years. In the interim, they consider other opportunities to invest in.

"Worshipping at the Church of Goddie Ude" - this type of knee-jerk response reveals how desperate you are.
One thing we can all agree on, this year there is going to be a shortage of Crows. One of my investments is under Nanci Jo Frazer, as of today she has 17,835 just in her downline that have invested $10,393,000.00+
If Profitable Sunrise turns out to be a scam, there will truly be alot of unhappy people. Alternately, if ProSun continues rolling smoothly down the track this year, let us know where you want all those Crows delivered.
Until then, we are in a waiting game...while our bank accounts continue to increase.

Any sign of an scamming yet?...any Empirical Evidence?...Yoo Hoo.

Originally Posted by Myriad Force

No one said it was going to be sustainable, they have 170 day and 240 day terms. Roman believes the 2.15% program will last two to five more years. In the interim, they consider other opportunities to invest in.

"Worshipping at the Church of Goddie Ude" - this type of knee-jerk response reveals how desperate you are.
One thing we can all agree on, this year there is going to be a shortage of Crows. One of my investments is under Nanci Jo Frazer, as of today she has 17,835 just in her downline that have invested $10,393,000.00+
If Profitable Sunrise turns out to be a scam, there will truly be alot of unhappy people. Alternately, if ProSun continues rolling smoothly down the track this year, let us know where you want all those Crows delivered.
Until then, we are in a waiting game...while our bank accounts continue to increase.

Any sign of an scamming yet?...any Empirical Evidence?...Yoo Hoo.

Why did the word "simony" spring to mind just now?