Thread: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

Originally Posted by SkepticalOne

Okay, I'm trying not to freak out here. I only invested $500, which isn't much to many people, but it's a lot to me. Where the heck is the website and daily email? Did this operation shut down?

profitable sunrise - Google Search

Can someone find the original Nanci today's response (full of lies) quoted here: #6666

NJF Global Facebook page seems got deleted.

Nanci went private. You have to be a member of the group to receive updates.

NEWS UPDATE FROM ROMAN
Good Morning Everyone,

I just finished speaking with Chris Lombardi, our group leader, and he personally spoke with Roman yesterday.

Roman - says that Pro Sun is still in good shape, despite what is being said on the internet. Once the Long Haul is paid out, he feels that a lot of this noise will go away. His attorneys recommended that they send your money through bank wires to appease the US Gov't. The US Gov't was happy with that move and that you are going to see some changes to website. Keep in mind his is aware of the literature out on the net! Not to worry - he is handling it!

Note from Chris - generally when you are involved with companies like these, they generally just disappear in the middle of the night. Not Roman, he is still communicating with all the group leaders. This is being treated differently, but Chris also said - "if Long Haul doesn't show up - then its toast!" and Roman promised that it wouldn't be!

My Note: April 1 is the day to keep track off - we will all known then!

Here are a few other things coming:

1) We are going to get a debit card and not the e-wallet we once thought.

2) We will be getting more people inside to help with Customer Service(CS), especially with the wire transfers. I know a few of you have had issues! Goal there is to get them down to less than 5 days consistently for everyone! We all know its hit and miss with the time frame.

3) Chris Lombardi - his 170 day term has expired and he has extended his term for another 40 days. He is now 20 days into that period. He wants everyone to know that we all can have our terms extended for another 40 days if you like. Just email him!

If you have any further questions please email me.

Chris and I will be speaking weekly, so if there is more info next week I will let you know!

Have A Bless Day All,

Profitablesunrise - Profitablesunrise.com

Roman has run. California, Minnesota and South Dakota have now issued Cease and Desist Orders, Wisconsin, Florida and Ohio have joined in the alerts and Kentucky issued their Cease and Desist. Before the end of the day I expect to see many more states doing the same thing.

The switching servers is just a smoke screen to give him time to get out of Dodge before the faithful wake up to him being gone and all their dreams and hopes taken with him. And the devastation from these Ponzi's continues. The horror stories are about to begin, and they are going to be really ugly. I think I will forward my calls to finix so she can explain how they are at fault not Roman her hero.

Yeah, I too hope he comes back with a new program so the feds can shut him down and put him in prison where he belongs.

BTW, Eagle, it was a 502 (bad gateway) error, not 504 (gateway timeout). Watch what you type on MMG.

Originally Posted by Finix

Profitablesunrise - Profitablesunrise.com

Nothing to worry about, this will all be handled by divine intervention. Good things happen to people who do charitable things like Roman.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

Nothing to worry about, this will all be handled by divine intervention. Good things happen to people who do charitable things like Roman.

Instead of being all sarcastic, explain to ScepticalOne that his $500 went to people like you, so there is nothing to freak out about. Or is there?

Originally Posted by Finix

Nanci went private. You have to be a member of the group to receive updates.

In other words... jettison the flotsam / doubters! This is for the real believers / kool-aid drinkers only! :D Now we'll behave like a Ponzi scheme should... with SECRECY! Like Bernie Madoff and Alan Stanford!

Originally Posted by Finix

Instead of being all sarcastic, explain to ScepticalOne that his $500 went to people like you, so there is nothing to freak out about. Or is there?

Nope, wrong on that one Finny. I didn't withdraw my balance, in fact it is impossible, his money is safe with Roman.

Maybe you can handle his call.

Now we'll behave like a Ponzi scheme should... with SECRECY

Hedge funds are secretive, so the games with loose rules are for the super-rich only? What if we want to play loose too? Where do we go?

Super-rich can afford to LOSE a bit. Us regular folks can't afford to lose. That's why US laws require only "accredited investor" to play in the "big leagues".

Accredited investor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Fendaril

Maybe you can handle his call.

Over $500? The minimum wage is $7.25/per hour, plenty of temp agencies in need of seasonal labor. Couple of weeks of hard work and he'll be back with $500.

Originally Posted by Finix

Over $500? The minimum wage is $7.25/per hour, plenty of temp agencies in need of seasonal labor. Couple of weeks of hard work and he'll be back with $500.

Look at this e-mail nanci sent out.

Dear Global Impact Resource Alliance family,

This is Jon, asking you to pray for Nanci and her son, Taylor, and the extended family.

Taylor, 20 years old, fell while skiing about a month ago, and has complained of headaches since then. He went to the Emergency Room this afternoon with increased headache and slurred speech, and a scan showed that there was blood around his brain.

He was air-lifted to Toledo this afternoon, and Nanci told me tonight that the doctors said he is fortunate to be alive, and asked that I send this email out to her extended GIR Alliance family to ask for prayer.

Taylor is having brain surgery tomorrow morning at 7:00 am Eastern to remove the blood and try to discover the source of the bleeding.

I will keep you updated as we know more from Nanci tomorrow. We are blessed to be partners with her and FocusUp Ministries... now it's time to minister to her and her family.

Thank you for your prayers. It's wonderful to have family like you.

Rev. Jon Simmons
Project Manager
FocusUp Ministries

Wonder what does Myriad Force have to say now?

Originally Posted by Fendaril

Look at this e-mail nanci sent out.

If Nanci is his upline, he might want to ask her for $500 back. I'm suggesting a realistic way of replacing lost money. That's how I do it when I need to.

Here is the post that Nanci Jo made on her FB Group page:

LATEST FACEBOOK GROUP UPDATE AND UPDATE FROM NANCY JO FRAZER >>

WEBSITE: Technical support issued a statement a short while ago that the website is going to be down for 36 to 48 hours while they migrate their data to a secure server. We will notify you when they inform us that the website is up and running again.

OFFICIAL STATEMENT:

Because we as a community could not find any precedent as to how an offshore collateral lending company would be legally viewed in the USA, nor were we aware of any circumstance that would prevent us from participating, nor had anyone presented the concept that those who referred someone to a collateral lending company would be viewed as marketing the sale of an unregistered security, Profitable Sunrise has successfully been operating in the USA since 2009 with no complaint or conflict.

It has now come to our recent attention that Profitable Sunrise has been determined by the SEC to be a Security, evidenced by the recent "Temporary Cease and Desist Order" issued by the SEC in the state of North Carolina. As a result, all of us who are Participants are said to have been "offering for sale an unregistered security" when we have invited our family and friends into the Program. This is a violation of SEC Regulation, and any further activity could subject us to contact by the SEC along with potential fines.

The leadership of our community had already made the decision weeks earlier to close our community before any of these issues surfaced, and had already had agreed that we would be moving forward as a closed, private group.

In order to demonstrate our commitment to be fully compliant with this recent ruling and SEC Regulations, we promptly enacted our decision to close our community to new participants, and terminate our future marketing relationship with Profitable Sunrise.

We respect the State of NC for wanting to protect its citizens, as is evident from our decision to close our community to new members while the inquiry is still active. To further comply, we are asking that no existing community participant make a new deposit into the Profitable Sunrise Program until further notice. Any attempt to circumvent this new Directive will be dealt with in an appropriate way by Nanci. Furthermore, any Participant trying to add a New Deposit is in Violation of current SEC Regulations, and again, could be subject to censure and fines by the SEC.

The entire NJF Global Group has been, and always will be, committed to operating with full integrity, and this includes abiding by existing regulations relating to any Program we are involved with. Our focus will continue to be our 501© 3 Charity, FocusUp Ministries.

ARE THE "WARNINGS" ISSUED IN ALABAMA AND CANADA THE SAME AS A "CEASE & DESIST"?

No, Alabama is only issuing a warning to its citizens to be wary of Profitable Sunrise.

IS THIS SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED IN NC TO ZEEK REWARDS?

No, not at all. In this situation, it was the NC Secretary of State who asked Roman to communicate with them and to properly get registered in their state.

I HAVE HEARD THAT SOME PARTICIPANTS HAVE BEEN ISSUED A SUBPOENA AT THE REQUEST OF THE SEC. IS THIS TRUE?

Yes. At the request of the SEC, several participants have been, or are being, issued subpoenas requiring them to appear before a judge and to provide any information regarding their relationship with, and participation in, Profitable Sunrise.
Therefore, it is important to fully comply with our new community policies and all SEC regulations, to terminate all further marketing activity with Profitable Sunrise.

WAS THE DECISION TO CLOSE OUR COMMUNITY TO NEW MEMBERS SOLELY DUE TO THE NC CEASE & DESIST ORDER?

No. This action was in the works for a long time. Nanci spoke with Roman over a month ago about closing the NJF Global Group community when it reached 30,000 visitors. Fast forward in time, and the group has grown to over 76,000 visitors.
Can't be "SuperMom" :D! Nanci realized that the time had come to stop being a "SuperMom". Do you remember the nursery rhyme "There was an old woman who lived in a shoe, she had so many children, she didn't know what to do"? Well, Nanci's rhyme would go like this: "There is young woman who loves serving you, but she has so many children there is no time to snooze"! J ). Nanci is now facilitating a transition of administrative duties for future projects to key leaders so she can FocusUp J on Ministry.

WHY THE NEW NAME "GLOBAL IMPACT RESOURCE ALLIANCE"?

Nanci is grateful to be surrounded by an amazing leadership team who has tirelessly given of their talents and resources in support of the community. With her term expiring on March 5, she wanted to honor of that leadership resource with a new name that best describes the shift in leadership from one incredible "Mom" to a group of leaders of a global private group committed to making a world-wide impact by using our talents and resources together.

In this new group, leaders can share the administrative burden, take the reins, and guide their individual groups through the implementation of Nanci's vision, so that Nanci can "FocusUp" on Ministry J. GIRA will focus on resource management education, to equip each group to diversify into different venues of resource management as determined by accomplished leaders.

WHAT ABOUT THE EXISTING MEMBERS?

The current members of Global Impact Resource Alliance will continue their participation as long as they comply with the New Directive that has been implemented within our group.

In these next few days, the website will be down to not only update the servers, but to update our community's back office to reflect our current policies and procedures.

Please remember that everything that has been stated in this communication is being done in order to fully comply with governmental regulations. We will periodically update you as we are able.

Blessings,

Nanci Jo Frazer

P.S. Thank you for your prayers for Taylor! I will be in touch with leadership to give an update from this morning's surgery, as soon as I am able.

Originally Posted by kschang

Wonder what does Myriad Force have to say now?

Since you asked:

Just as Saul tried to kill David because he knew the Lord was raising him up to be the next King of Israel, so also the banks, nations, and governments will try to bring down Profitable Sunrise. However, because PS and Roman are covered by the Blood of Jesus Christ and are being lifted up in intercession before the Lord Jesus Christ, he shall be anointed to slay the dragon, because the GOVERNMENT OF THE GLORY OF GOD HAS THIS ENTITY ENCAPSULATED IN THE MARVELLOUS LIGHT.

I Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

The Goliath Banking System of the Rothchilds VS The Davidic Banking System of Roman Novak

Who do you think will win?

Wow what a load of crap from Nancy Botox Frazer. Judging by the posts on MMG shouldn't be more that 20 or 30,000 that swallow this hook line and sinker.
I wonder how she typed that nice letter with the bag she is obviously holding.

Originally Posted by Finix

BTW, Eagle, it was a 502 (bad gateway) error, not 504 (gateway timeout). Watch what you type on MMG.

When I just tried to access the site, it said, and I quote:

504 Gateway Time-out

Which is what I have gotten every time I have tried to access the site.

Originally Posted by kschang

Us regular folks can't afford to lose.

There are money games for every budget, some with a minimum deposit of $1. It's not going to make anyone rich, but it can keep you entertained for a couple of days. It's the principle of having the same rules for everyone, not the amount.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Since you asked:

Just as Saul tried to kill David because he knew the Lord was raising him up to be the next King of Israel, so also the banks, nations, and governments will try to bring down Profitable Sunrise. However, because PS and Roman are covered by the Blood of Jesus Christ and are being lifted up in intercession before the Lord Jesus Christ, he shall be anointed to slay the dragon, because the GOVERNMENT OF THE GLORY OF GOD HAS THIS ENTITY ENCAPSULATED IN THE MARVELLOUS LIGHT.

I Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

The Goliath Banking System of the Rothchilds VS The Davidic Banking System of Roman Novak

Who do you think will win?

I hope Roman has a sling ready.

name change... new bottle and new label with the same wine tastes just as bad. Phooey.

All this "going private" thing sounds very... excus-y.;

Originally Posted by kschang

All this "going private" thing sounds very... excus-y.;

That's Nanci's group. Let's respect their right to privacy. If they want to be in her group, then there must be something they are getting out of it. If not financially, then in other ways.

Originally Posted by SkepticalOne

Okay, I'm trying not to freak out here. I only invested $500, which isn't much to many people, but it's a lot to me. Where the heck is the website and daily email? Did this operation shut down?

Look at the facts....
You got STP payments reduced to peanuts.....Still being paid so that the shills have what to crow about at MMG.....
Keep in mind that Roman can't just empty the account as Stella won't let him....

Real withdraws need bank wire which are at a ridiculous 15days.....
And now the site is offline for 36-48hours due to a "server move".....

It's March 15th or 14th (depends where you live).....
Easter Friday is in 2 weeks.....
Them huge compound pays due to be paid April 1st.....Right after Easter.....

Add to that all the warnings, C&D etc from NZ and a bunch of US States...

It's not rocket science "SkepticalOne".....Sorry for your loss but your $500 is gone.....