Thread: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

Originally Posted by littleroundman

The (Christian) Empire strikes back:

I can hardly stop laughing that they used moneymakingbrain's thread to attack me. Nanci Jo also insinuated that I am a cross-dresser. Such nice platitudes coming from a Pastor who believes in forgiveness.

Nanci Jo, or anyone else from FUMI or Global Impact Resource Alliance, I invite you to come here and engage in a discussion with me. That is if you have the backbone to do it, which I seriously doubt. So here's your chance to go toe to toe with me, and your posts will not be censored, edited, or deleted. You will have total freedom to say and defend your statements. Actually as many of you as you want are welcome. The more the merrier. Up to the challenge, or will you continue to hide?

PS: Nanci: If you are going to denigrate me, at least spell my last name right for God's sake. It is Edgington. I don't want God getting confused as to whom you are talking about.

Thanks for the catch Rib, I didn't catch the transition and mistook the John footage for Ralph. My bad.

From LRM's post:

Can I lose the funds I invest?

All funds deposited with us are insured against loss and all the information related to your deposits with us is kept confidential.

I'm sure every member of the NJF Global Group is very glad right now that Nanci Jo has insured their investment against loss. And if you contributed to FUMI you even have a phone number to call her about your refund.

Originally Posted by GlimDropper

From LRM's post:



I'm sure every member of the NJF Global Group is very glad right now that Nanci Jo has insured their investment against loss. And if you contributed to FUMI you even have a phone number to call her about your refund.

I really think members should call her husband the banker and ask along with what the chamber of congress? that he is president of. It might be most interesting.

Originally Posted by baylee

I really think members should call her husband the banker and ask along with what the chamber of congress? that he is president of. It might be most interesting.

It's the Chamber of Commerce.

Originally Posted by baylee

I really think members should call her husband the banker and ask along with what the chamber of congress? that he is president of. It might be most interesting.

What do you think I have been doing the last week? He has not been to work!

Originally Posted by Slim

What do you think I have been doing the last week? He has not been to work!

If you ever do get hold of him, it will prove most interesting indeed if he is who and what he has been reported to be. The Ohio state government response after the reporting will be interesting also. I submitted a complaint of Nancy Jo and this scam to IC3 already.

heh, better make a new thread if it happens

Umm,. just a tci...in Nanci Jo's explanation of what happened to her son, take a look at the part about his "brain got pushed to one side crushing his ventricle"


WTF? Nanci Jo, learn to lie better sweetie, your ventricles are chambers of your heart, and if your brain got pushed so far as to crush one of them, you have bigger problems than having a crushed ventricle....

Okay, continue on with your little scam now.

Originally Posted by Gregg

Umm,. just a tci...in Nanci Jo's explanation of what happened to her son, take a look at the part about his "brain got pushed to one side crushing his ventricle"


WTF? Nanci Jo, learn to lie better sweetie, your ventricles are chambers of your heart, and if your brain got pushed so far as to crush one of them, you have bigger problems than having a crushed ventricle....

Okay, continue on with your little scam now.

Sorry to break it to you, Gregg, but the human brain has ventricles too. There are four of them.

Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins

Sorry to break it to you, Gregg, but the human brain has ventricles too. There are four of them.

Oh my, now do I feel silly.

Not as silly as if I had herded a few thousand people into putting a few million into a ponzi scheme, whipping them up with religion, but a little silly, anyway.

Amazing how easily, in HyipPonziLand, "nothing urgent" becomes "brain surgery". And - just as amazing - how people believe it.

Originally Posted by wserra

Amazing how easily, in HyipPonziLand, "nothing urgent" becomes "brain surgery". And - just as amazing - how people believe it.

And what is more amazing is the timing of these manufactured crisis. Funny how that always happens right before the well runs dry.

I have kept up with this thread but you guys have done so great, there has not been much to add. This morning while checking with their FB page, there are some unhappy campers and some still hanging on...

https://www.facebook.com/profitablesunrisereviewlegit

one response a few hours ago:


Georges Dezwarte


From now on i will post every info about the leaders!! it's enough now always promise promise and promise! To be honest i never saw a program that disappeared for more than 12 days ,,WHERE ARE THEY?? Is it so difficult to show a little info page on a distress-server just to inform the investors that they will be back soon! Am sure a lot of people will be happy and relax,,

Its time to all of 20 leaders to speak the truth ,,Why they have no info from CEO prosun No mail because of the servers are down ,, Gmail,hotmail , yahoo all free!

To all the leaders and specialy NJF ,,do you have a cellphone number of the CEO prosun?? really ok call him ask info !! stop to hiding speak the truth !!

If the CEO don't answer What do you think,,,is that normal?? thousend people are worry about losing money !

Have a nice evening.
Georges.

Top and latest post contained info for this:

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2013/03/25Start a new program
Dear partner! We invite you to join our new private investment club. Become an active member, you are guaranteed to get your deposit made previously and earnings over the entire period of delay for a specified account profitable sunrise. You will receive a bonus gift of 50% of your deposit in the new programme.
We offer you the investment plan for the following:
Investment period: 80 calendar days
Minimum $ 100/Max unlimited
2.5% daily profit
at the end of the period, return to the main
40 after the investment period, you will receive a bonus of 50% of the active deposit gifts.
(E) translation of currencies: LR, PM
Daily profit, bonus gift, deposit refund automatically, making your e-currency account (LR/PM).
After the date of deposit (80 days) you indicate your personal promo code, email address and user name in the profitablesunrise program, we check your work in the new agenda and revert to you money profitablesunrise.
Terms of participation-limited sequence:
1. you have filed a request for restoration of the user account.
2. to receive an email about the status of your application.
3. Receive confirmation letter and attachment of a personal promo code.
4. to receive an email with the details of e-currencies payment
5. transfer money to deposit the details of e-currencies, comment to payment-promo code.
6. 2.5% daily profit on your e-currency account.
7. Max. the number of active deposits one promo code: 3 active deposit.
The number of party-day limitation. If you are not a paid membership offerings within 24 hours, your suggestion to move the bottom party.
If you are moving at the end of the queue, you may reenroll, indicating a personal promo code, ready at any moment. Traffic queues, and waiting until the second letter on details of e-currencies.
Consistent return of debts profitablesunrise that would return all without damage to new private investment fund, and continued work on a new level.
We hope that you understand that we cannot compensate for debt profitablesunrise all at once. Therefore, we adopt a new marketing and to continue to work together with you a very long time.
Thanks to God
Roman Novak.
Posted by Roman Novak at 11:42 PM

Profitable Sunrise

Talk about a quick reload on this scam. Word to the wise if you are a Profitable Sunrise participant and someone contacts you to help you "get your money back" and they want a fee, that too is a scam. The best course of action at this point is to go to traditional law enforcement and file a complaint.

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To the mod who saved me the trouble of splitting the Finix Fest(a) posts out of this thread and over to rants. Thank you. To those looking for that content it can be found here, now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

And am I the only one who thinks that Roman/Nanci Jo really dropped the ball for not claiming that the Cyprus bail out deal was the reason Pro Sun went offline? The timeline fits and at one time Roman was claiming their bank was in that country. Oh well missed opportunity or not, enough of the faithful bought the "server migration" story to keep the torch and pitch fork vigil away from Nanci's door, for now.

Originally Posted by GlimDropper

To the mod who saved me the trouble of splitting the Finix Fest(a) posts out of this thread and over to rants. Thank you. To those looking for that content it can be found here, now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

And am I the only one who thinks that Roman/Nanci Jo really dropped the ball for not claiming that the Cyprus bail out deal was the reason Pro Sun went offline? The timeline fits and at one time Roman was claiming their bank was in that country. Oh well missed opportunity or not, enough of the faithful bought the "server migration" story to keep the torch and pitch fork vigil away from Nanci's door, for now.

This is a little off topic, but I have often wondered how many "Hedge Funds" that were really Ponzi's used the financial meltdown to slip out of dodge. Certainly several went down when withdrawals started, but surely others must have closed their doors leaving the investors none the wiser. As for NJF, she may have a lot of charisma to bring in that many people and that much money, but she does not come off as having a lick of common sense. Some of her letters leave me to believe that she was as duped as anyone else.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

This is a little off topic, but I have often wondered how many "Hedge Funds" that were really Ponzi's used the financial meltdown to slip out of dodge. Certainly several went down when withdrawals started, but surely others must have closed their doors leaving the investors none the wiser. As for NJF, she may have a lot of charisma to bring in that many people and that much money, but she does not come off as having a lick of common sense. Some of her letters leave me to believe that she was as duped as anyone else.

I don't think I can productively respond to the hedge fund issue but I don't for a moment buy the notion that Nanci Jo was duped. This is no fewer than her third ride on the ponzi pony, what ever innocence she may once have had vanished many referral commissions ago. She claims to be some amazing business woman with massive success after massive success to her credit. She also has a husband who's a banker esteemed enough to chair the local chamber of commerce. That isn't to mention the overwhelming likelihood that she herself has participated on this forum. No, for her to claim that she's been duped by Roman she'd almost have to plead insanity.

That being said she clearly made some very novice mistakes. For one thing she let her group grow beyond her ability to moderate it. She also never crafted an exit strategy. The thing is both of those issues could have been combined. She didn't recognize, or at least admit that the birth of the "long haul program" was the first sign of the inevitable collapse. She should have promoted it the way she did but then instead of trying to fight us, use us. As more negative attention started to accumulate she could have used it as a reason to close her group. "No new signups till we see were this is going." That would have cost her a little money but it would have made her more credible, more realistic. At some point she should have used her (makes that sticking his fingers down his throat and gagging sound) "Christian Principles" to explain why it was worth sacrificing the upline commission on compounding to make sure the downline got their investment back. Then when the North Carolina C&D came out explain to her entire group her questions about Roman's commitment to Christ and implored everyone to cash out as fast as they could.

If she'd done all that she'd have an organization to whore out to the next program. Instead she made herself Roman's spokes model and I'm glad that she'll pay the price for that mistake. She did more than anyone to convince people that Roman Novak was a gift from God and all she has left is a cell phone number that never picks up and the smell of sulfur, that and a butt load of money she can only hope no one sues her out of.

Originally Posted by GlimDropper

I don't think I can productively respond to the hedge fund issue but I don't for a moment buy the notion that Nanci Jo was duped. This is no fewer than her third ride on the ponzi pony, what ever innocence she may once have had vanished many referral commissions ago. She claims to be some amazing business woman with massive success after massive success to her credit. She also has a husband who's a banker esteemed enough to chair the local chamber of commerce. That isn't to mention the overwhelming likelihood that she herself has participated on this forum. No, for her to claim that she's been duped by Roman she'd almost have to plead insanity.

That being said she clearly made some very novice mistakes. For one thing she let her group grow beyond her ability to moderate it. She also never crafted an exit strategy. The thing is both of those issues could have been combined. She didn't recognize, or at least admit that the birth of the "long haul program" was the first sign of the inevitable collapse. She should have promoted it the way she did but then instead of trying to fight us, use us. As more negative attention started to accumulate she could have used it as a reason to close her group. "No new signups till we see were this is going." That would have cost her a little money but it would have made her more credible, more realistic. At some point she should have used her (makes that sticking his fingers down his throat and gagging sound) "Christian Principles" to explain why it was worth sacrificing the upline commission on compounding to make sure the downline got their investment back. Then when the North Carolina C&D came out explain to her entire group her questions about Roman's commitment to Christ and implored everyone to cash out as fast as they could.

If she'd done all that she'd have an organization to whore out to the next program. Instead she made herself Roman's spokes model and I'm glad that she'll pay the price for that mistake. She did more than anyone to convince people that Roman Novak was a gift from God and all she has left is a cell phone number that never picks up and the smell of sulfur, that and a butt load of money she can only hope no one sues her out of.

As I was going to turn in I read your post and wanted to put a little food thought out there. Not that it is a knowable answer, just pure speculation on my part. When I say she was duped, I don't want to imply she is innocent or a hapless victim. However, when I clicked your link and read CadioBeam's posts I am taking them to be from NJF. I would buy that because like her member updates they are unorganized and almost cut and paste. It could be a ruse, but her writing comes across of that of a complete idiot, not a planner. And I mean that in a nice way. Her explanations of Roman, a seeming lack of understanding of even basic laws, and as you say a rather unplanned exit strategy make me wonder. Her calls with the Roman just further heighten my suspicion, just the way she reports them back she is leaving herself wide open to legal action.

There is no doubt that she can attract a following and raise cash, but the calls to Roman and subsequent messaging to her flock seem almost childlike. I am left wondering if perhaps her husband or someone behind her is not pulling the strings? On the other hand, there are surely some arrogant criminals out there that think they will never be caught. I remember reading about Wade Cook laughing through his whole trial, until they read the verdict.

You have followed her longer than I, and maybe the message is dumbed down for her masses, but her responses just don't read mastermind or in control.

Originally Posted by GlimDropper

She did more than anyone to convince people that Roman Novak was a gift from God and all she has left is a cell phone number that never picks up and the smell of sulfur, that and a butt load of money she can only hope no one sues her out of.

FYI, she NEVER had a phone number for Roman Novak. Nanci herself stated on a call that if she or any of the other private group leaders wanted to speak with Roman they would have to notify him by e-mail ahead of time and he would set up a conference bridge where everyone involved would call in and speak to him. (can anybody say untraceable?) It was stated that the leaders did not need his phone number because he was quite responsive via e-mail (before the servers went down)
What a crock that Nanci allowed this to occur and pumped up her group on this flimsy contact to the tune of 75,000 members and $37 million in deposits.

Now she is silent.

But that is not stopping her from pumping her brand new program to her database ,strongbrook, a multi-level real estate company.

strongbrook.com

Here is an e-mail sent out yesterday from GIR


Dear Global Impact Resource (GIR) Alliance family,

We know this is an uncertain time for our Alliance. As of this writing, however, we do not have anything new to pass on to you.

As fellow participants, we feel with you, and assure you that we will communicate with you as soon as we hear anything that we can confirm as coming from a reliable source.

Strongbrook Updates Requested:

In the meantime, many of our Alliance members have been asking for an update on Strongbrook because they want to know more, or are consider adding the Strongbrook program to their portfolio to diversify their funds, independent of the success of any other program.

(Not interested in Strongbrook? If this call is not of interest to you because of your uncertainty, or, you are not interested in Strongbrook, simply delete this email. Please don't unsubscribe, as this will remove you from all future GIR Alliance updates, which we know you're waiting for).

Two Calls on Thursday:

We're excited to tell you that the founder of Strongbrook, Kris Krohn, will be joining us as our special guest on Thursday, March 28, 3:00 pm Eastern.

Kris will share his story about Strongbrook, and all the benefits Strongbrook offers to both clients and affiliates alike. One thing we LOVE: Strongbrook has already been evaluated by the SEC and has passed with flying colors!

For those who cannot make the 3:00 pm call, that same evening, Thursday, March 28, 9:30 pm Eastern, Kevin Clayson, a co-founder of Strongbrook, will be with our special guest.

Conference Call Information (the same for both calls):

Dial: (559) 726-1300
Code: 820165#

We look forward to our time together with you!

Your GIR Alliance


By the way I googled it and came across a real estate blog where real estate agents were talking about it.

http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/...-heard-of-them

WOW! She has some nerve doesn't she!

Originally Posted by tcob

FYI, she NEVER had a phone number for Roman Novak. Nanci herself stated on a call that if she or any of the other private group leaders wanted to speak with Roman they would have to notify him by e-mail ahead of time and he would set up a conference bridge where everyone involved would call in and speak to him. (can anybody say untraceable?) It was stated that the leaders did not need his phone number because he was quite responsive via e-mail (before the servers went down)
What a crock that Nanci allowed this to occur and pumped up her group on this flimsy contact to the tune of 75,000 members and $37 million in deposits.

Now she is silent.

But that is not stopping her from pumping her brand new program to her database ,strongbrook, a multi-level real estate company.

strongbrook.com

Here is an e-mail sent out yesterday from GIR


Dear Global Impact Resource (GIR) Alliance family,

We know this is an uncertain time for our Alliance. As of this writing, however, we do not have anything new to pass on to you.

As fellow participants, we feel with you, and assure you that we will communicate with you as soon as we hear anything that we can confirm as coming from a reliable source.

Strongbrook Updates Requested:

In the meantime, many of our Alliance members have been asking for an update on Strongbrook because they want to know more, or are consider adding the Strongbrook program to their portfolio to diversify their funds, independent of the success of any other program.

(Not interested in Strongbrook? If this call is not of interest to you because of your uncertainty, or, you are not interested in Strongbrook, simply delete this email. Please don't unsubscribe, as this will remove you from all future GIR Alliance updates, which we know you're waiting for).

Two Calls on Thursday:

We're excited to tell you that the founder of Strongbrook, Kris Krohn, will be joining us as our special guest on Thursday, March 28, 3:00 pm Eastern.

Kris will share his story about Strongbrook, and all the benefits Strongbrook offers to both clients and affiliates alike. One thing we LOVE: Strongbrook has already been evaluated by the SEC and has passed with flying colors!

For those who cannot make the 3:00 pm call, that same evening, Thursday, March 28, 9:30 pm Eastern, Kevin Clayson, a co-founder of Strongbrook, will be with our special guest.

Conference Call Information (the same for both calls):

Dial: (559) 726-1300
Code: 820165#

We look forward to our time together with you!

Your GIR Alliance


By the way I googled it and came across a real estate blog where real estate agents were talking about it.

StrongBrook? Anyone heard of them...

Originally Posted by GlimDropper

To the mod who saved me the trouble of splitting the Finix Fest(a) posts out of this thread and over to rants. Thank you. To those looking for that content it can be found here, now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

And am I the only one who thinks that Roman/Nanci Jo really dropped the ball for not claiming that the Cyprus bail out deal was the reason Pro Sun went offline? The timeline fits and at one time Roman was claiming their bank was in that country. Oh well missed opportunity or not, enough of the faithful bought the "server migration" story to keep the torch and pitch fork vigil away from Nanci's door, for now.

There were several ponzis back in late 2008 that used the "global banking crisis" as an excuse to close up shop. Then the swiss banking crack down....... They missed an opportunity here with the mess in Cyprus. There is always something going on around the globe that can be used as an excuse. I never even thought about this until you brought it up. I need to think more like a criminal and liar.

When all else fails just blame it on the good old IRS. Everybody hates them.