Thread: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

Did some digging and found where the PS server really hosted at ,

For those who don't know profitablesunrise.com points to 208.64.126.220 IP address which belongs to BlackLotus AntiDDOS,
which is just providing a layer of protection by means of a tunnel to the real site which is hiding its location.

The tunnel endpoint (and actual PS host) is at server1.profitablesunrise.com with IP address 184.107.117.134
which is provided by Server4Sale hosting re-selleling company and the block of 6 IP addresses was leased from iWeb Technologies Inc. of Canada

So if anyone wants to shut them down or seize the database, logs and files, might be able to contact the http://iweb.com/contact in Montreal, Canada.

Originally Posted by tcob

On the sun thing....I would have to say yes.
On the chair thing ....no. LOL

Do you have 100% proof social security will be there when you retire.
DO you have 100% proof your bank will not fail?
Do you have 100% proof that what your President tells you is the truth?

Profitable Sunrise members are the ones using the "100% proof" rationalization to excuse the fact they aren't smart enough to see anyone offering to double their money on a regular basis is lying.

No one from REALSCAM.com is going around forums claiming social security and banks will not fail or the President is telling the truth.

In addition, whether banks or social security fail has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact Profitable Sunrise is a HYIP ponzi fraud.

Originally Posted by tcob

Who says it would be in Intereef or PS name? It is a private bridge or short term loan. It does not have to be made public. Private and bridge loans can be used for much more than Real Estate

I would question why it would not be in the Interreef name, that would throw up a lot of red flags for me for the number of loans they claim to be doing. You are right, one or two small loans may not be made public, but he is claiming scale. And on his website he implies the loans are secured either by property or insurance. There is no way to secure a property as collateral without filing a lien, which is public record. For instance, assuming you are in US, you could go to your county website and find almost all loans recorded by Bank of America.

I am not trying to break your back on this, just telling you how I would get proof this was a real deal if I was looking to invest. A legitimate business of this size would have a huge public paper trail.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Profitable Sunrise members are the ones using the "100% proof" rationalization to excuse the fact they aren't smart enough to see anyone offering to double their money on a regular basis is lying.

No one from REALSCAM.com is going around forums claiming social security and banks will not fail or the President is telling the truth.

In addition, whether banks or social security fail has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact Profitable Sunrise is a HYIP ponzi fraud.

Please dont lump individuals in with ENTIRE profitable sunrise community. A lot of people have never claimed the 100% sure model.
I did not assert the realscam made any of those claims.
I was asking you your opinion because that is what you did with me
No need to get sensitive

Originally Posted by ribshaw

I would question why it would not be in the Interreef name, that would throw up a lot of red flags for me for the number of loans they claim to be doing. You are right, one or two small loans may not be made public, but he is claiming scale. And on his website he implies the loans are secured either by property or insurance. There is no way to secure a property as collateral without filing a lien, which is public record. For instance, assuming you are in US, you could go to your county website and find almost all loans recorded by Bank of America.

I am not trying to break your back on this, just telling you how I would get proof this was a real deal if I was looking to invest. A legitimate business of this size would have a huge public paper trail.

Like I said before I went in knowing that there may be an end to the program and therefore I did not use funds that I would miss.

what the hell you talking about, how the hell you can take a possibility even remote one that PS is some kind of a real deal?

HYIP is HYIP, a ponzi, nothing else to it.

Originally Posted by tcob

Like I said before I went in knowing that there may be an end to the program and therefore I did not use funds that I would miss.

You must have more money than you know what to do with.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

You must have more money than you know what to do with.

or less brains than he knows what to do with..

Originally Posted by tcob

No need to get sensitive

Are you kidding me ???

If the worst thing that happens to me in 2013 is being insulted by a HYIP ponzi apologist, I'd say I was having a bloody good year.

Can I post this on my site? Would you like credit and in what name?

For those who don't know profitablesunrise.com points to 208.64.126.220 IP address which belongs to BlackLotus AntiDDOS,
which is just providing a layer of protection by means of a tunnel to the real site which is hiding its location.

The tunnel endpoint (and actual PS host) is at server1.profitablesunrise.com with IP address 184.107.117.134
which is provided by Server4Sale hosting re-selleling company and the block of 6 IP addresses was leased from iWeb Technologies Inc. of Canada

So if anyone wants to shut them down or seize the database, logs and files, might be able to contact the http://iweb.com/contact in Montreal, Canada.

Originally Posted by tcob

Like I said before I went in knowing that there may be an end to the program and therefore I did not use funds that I would miss.

So basically you know this is a ponzi and knew from the beginning. I initially thought you were a Nanci Jo disciple by your first few posts, now not so sure, probably just a ponzi player looking for info. Did you get in early enough to make money on this one? How many downlines did you bring in? How many of them are in "profit" ? If this goes tango union today, how many people below you lose their money?

Originally Posted by JamesParis

Can I post this on my site? Would you like credit and in what name?

For those who don't know profitablesunrise.com points to 208.64.126.220 IP address which belongs to BlackLotus AntiDDOS,
which is just providing a layer of protection by means of a tunnel to the real site which is hiding its location.

The tunnel endpoint (and actual PS host) is at server1.profitablesunrise.com with IP address 184.107.117.134
which is provided by Server4Sale hosting re-selleling company and the block of 6 IP addresses was leased from iWeb Technologies Inc. of Canada

So if anyone wants to shut them down or seize the database, logs and files, might be able to contact the Contact | iWeb in Montreal, Canada.

There's no need for crediting the source, James.

The only important thing is getting the information out there to victims and potential victims.

PS site down again, hearing from a lot of people today that are not able to access site.

Originally Posted by Bowtie496

So basically you know this is a ponzi and knew from the beginning. I initially thought you were a Nanci Jo disciple by your first few posts, now not so sure, probably just a ponzi player looking for info. Did you get in early enough to make money on this one? How many downlines did you bring in? How many of them are in "profit" ? If this goes tango union today, how many people below you lose their money?

I appreciate y'alls concern for me in that I might have more money than I know what to do with or that I may not have brains. It's touching really.
As far as Mr Bowtie here, those are pretty personal questions. However I will respond with basically what I said before.
I got in knowing that I may lose therefore I put in an amount that I would not miss. If I invited anyone in, I made sure they knew the risk and followed the same caution

Ok, another interesting thing i just dug up ,
PS_SPF.jpg

To explain what that SPF DNS record mean, is that it notifies mail servers that email submitted from that IP should be whitelisted.
So where is that IP, again Laval (Montreal suburbs), and look what we get here if we just open http://205.204.70.246



Whichever is it a primary or secondary (back up) server of PS is still a question, but they both in or near Montreal.

OrgName: Netelligent Hosting Services Inc.
Address: 1396 Franklin Drive
City: Laval
StateProv: QC
PostalCode: H7W-1K6
OrgAbusePhone: +1-514-369-2209
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@netelligent.ca

Well..Looks like your long lost friend is doing damage control on facebook

20 hours ago · 2

Christian Monk Thanks for the confidence Troy and ps ibo. After all that has happened i was very much looking for someone to give me some positive feelings about the company.
18 hours ago via mobile · 1

Myriad Force You're in fear. PS is not crumbling, they are making modifications to make things better. People are afraid of change. Silly mortals.
23 minutes ago

Christian Monk You're right Myriad. Many people (including me) are now worried about Pro Sun. On other pages people are actually told not to make any investments in the company. In my opinion it's not the change that frightens people but it is the reason behind the change. But my confidence in Profitable Sunrise is returning because there is no indication to me that this company will fail. The above comments were correct by saying we are still earning interest and people are still getting paid. Business as usuall
5 minutes ago via mobile · Edited

Well the king of Ponzi pimps, Ken Russo, showed up on the MMG thread and just can't understand why people would want to harm a program that is helping so many people. Sorry, forgot to warn you that a barf moment was at hand.

Of course Ken won't post his payments because he is already out of this and all he has at risk is his referral commsissions just like in every Ponzi he pimps.

I would love to be a fly on the wall when Ken gets his subpoena from the Receiver in Zeek, I bet he pays so fast the Receiver wonders why all the other pimps aren't as cooperative as he was. Ken is afraid if he didn't he would have to go to court and reveal a lot of stuff about all his Ponzi's he doesn't want the court knowing about.

Hmm, seems there are a few who have now joined it at MMG calling Ken Russo out. Now this is going to get interesting to see if Ken cries to the mods and gets the posts deleted.

Originally Posted by NikSam

Did some digging and found where the PS server really hosted at ,

For those who don't know profitablesunrise.com points to 208.64.126.220 IP address which belongs to BlackLotus AntiDDOS,
which is just providing a layer of protection by means of a tunnel to the real site which is hiding its location.

The tunnel endpoint (and actual PS host) is at server1.profitablesunrise.com with IP address 184.107.117.134
which is provided by Server4Sale hosting re-selleling company and the block of 6 IP addresses was leased from iWeb Technologies Inc. of Canada

So if anyone wants to shut them down or seize the database, logs and files, might be able to contact the Contact | iWeb in Montreal, Canada.

What a find NikSam. Congratulations.

I was not in this or in any Zeek related programs but I am very interested in the history of "this indudstry" and it looks as if your discovery could be a turning point in the war. I will follow thuis thread with renewed interest.

This might be bigger than zeek.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

This might be bigger than zeek.

And pigs might fly.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

This might be bigger than zeek.

Not yet, but if it would have lasted another 3-4 months it could have. This will be lucky to last til the end of this week let alone 3-4 more months.

So, Does anyone have a handle on the interruption today with the server's..thought for a while this was done..?

Originally Posted by fishbay

So, Does anyone have a handle on the interruption today with the server's..thought for a while this was done..?

Profitable Sunrise members have been preconditioned to ignore the website being down, so most of them will not be in the least concerned.

As for observers, those behind Profitable Sunrise couldn't give a damn what they think.

Originally Posted by fishbay

So, Does anyone have a handle on the interruption today with the server's..thought for a while this was done..?

Most likely caused by the stampede of members looking to hit the withdraw button.....

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Not yet, but if it would have lasted another 3-4 months it could have. This will be lucky to last til the end of this week let alone 3-4 more months.

Oh yeah you are right on that one

Remember that post that said my group had $15,000,000 total?

Now it sank to $12,000,000 and the members are growing and the money is dwindling even faster.

I wonder how they will pay the long haul on april fools day? Maybe they pay us in html code telling us we have money and than locking everyone out of their accounts and refusing to respond to support e-mails unless it's from nanci or some other big-time player.

The sad thing is, Nanci made less money than she could have with doing something legal. $6,000 in refferel commissions is a joke.