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03-10-2013, 05:43 PM
#1226
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
Finix
Next time I'll use a sarcasm smiley for your benefit. BTW, God abhors money, period. According to Jesus, James has as little chance of making it to the kingdom as Nanci does.
It would have helped. You are wrong again. God does not abhor money. God did not say that money was the root of all evil, He said "the LOVE of money is the root of all evil." You cannot serve two masters.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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03-10-2013, 05:44 PM
#1227
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
Fendaril
But God is mysterious, how could you know this?
God might be, but Jesus clarified a great deal in this passage:
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
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03-10-2013, 05:50 PM
#1228
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
I don't know too much, but Jesus did not look favorably on the money changers, foreclosed on their temple and made them do a leaseback at prime + 11. Roman Novak sure seems like a money changer if there ever was one.
Money is like anything it can be used for good or evil, but it sure is not healthy to let it run your life.
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03-10-2013, 05:51 PM
#1229
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
In any case, regardless of the motives, James had a great idea about having a show where both sides have a real voice. He might want to try to interview people who are a part of the industry, like forum owners, payment processor owners, etc. It could be a really interesting series.
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03-10-2013, 05:54 PM
#1230
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
Finix
God might be, but Jesus clarified a great deal in this passage:
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
It is easier for a camel ... - This was a proverb in common use among the Jews, and is still common among the Arabians.
To denote that a thing was impossible or exceedingly difficult, they said that a camel or an elephant might as soon walk through a needle's eye. In the use of such proverbs it is not necessary to understand them literally. They merely denote the extreme difficulty of the case.
A rich man - This rather means one who loves his riches and makes an idol of them, or one who supremely desires to be rich. Mark says Mark 10:24 "How hard is it for them that trust in riches." While a man has this feeling - relying on his wealth alone - it is literally impossible that he should be a Christian
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03-10-2013, 05:56 PM
#1231
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
It could also turn out to be that no one in the shadows wants to be interviewed. In which case, they will all prove to be cowards and schemers that y'all can expose.
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03-10-2013, 05:59 PM
#1232
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
Finix
God might be, but Jesus clarified a great deal in this passage:
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Not going to turn this into a theology discussion, but unless you understand what the "eye of the needle" truly means, you are taking the meaning out of context. Now back to PS and it being a Ponzi. Now do you really think that a forum owner or money exchanger would ever talk about their role in a Ponzi? Seriously?
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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03-10-2013, 06:02 PM
#1233
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
Now do you really think that a forum owner or money exchanger would ever talk about their role in a Ponzi? Seriously?
Don't make it about PS only. Make it a series about the industry - naysayers vs. players and see what shakes up.
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03-10-2013, 06:06 PM
#1234
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
Now back to PS and it being a Ponzi.
Yes, and like in each ponzi, there are winners and there are losers. It would be really good to hear a balanced story from both.
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03-10-2013, 06:09 PM
#1235
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Of course, if you are going to use the info to feed to LE, it's not going to happen. But suppose there was an environment where the participants could be assured of privacy, you might hear things that you would not otherwise.
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03-10-2013, 06:13 PM
#1236
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
BTW, on a purely personal level, I'm with you guys. I've seen nothing but headaches from the industry, but I see that there is a much bigger picture than my personal experience.
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03-10-2013, 06:20 PM
#1237
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
I just received a message from a lady that is part of a group that invested $30,000 in Profitable Sunrise. She says that the Church Of Scientology is heavily involved. Does anyone else have any information on this connection?
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03-10-2013, 06:34 PM
#1238
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
JamesParis
I just received a message from a lady that is part of a group that invested $30,000 in Profitable Sunrise. She says that the Church Of Scientology is heavily involved. Does anyone else have any information on this connection?
Are there any verifiable sources on what this lady says?
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03-10-2013, 06:35 PM
#1239
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
That is what I am looking for...
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03-10-2013, 06:38 PM
#1240
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
You are the first one to bring it up as far as I know. Could be an interesting find if it proves to be true.
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03-10-2013, 06:42 PM
#1241
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
I don't know if the implication was the members of The Church of Scientology were victims or were behind it. Profitable Sunrise seems to have been crafted to reach Evangelical Christians.
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03-10-2013, 07:12 PM
#1242
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
BTW, did Nanci ever get back to you? I'm catching up on Dexter shows, but I'll take a break if she is going to be on your show.
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03-10-2013, 07:19 PM
#1243
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
Finix
BTW, did Nanci ever get back to you? I'm catching up on Dexter shows, but I'll take a break if she is going to be on your show.
What do you do now for a job? You seem to have time and money to live.
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03-10-2013, 07:22 PM
#1244
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Manual labor, $11.47/hr. It's a weekend, and I'm sick. Happy now?
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03-10-2013, 07:32 PM
#1245
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
Finix
Manual labor, $11.47/hr. It's a weekend, and I'm sick. Happy now?
Awww man. A gal like you deserves much better.
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03-10-2013, 07:45 PM
#1246
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Did you think I was a member of the organized crime scene or something? Let's get back to PS, shall we.
Last edited by Finix; 03-10-2013 at 07:56 PM.
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03-10-2013, 08:11 PM
#1247
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
Finix
Did you think I was a member of the organized crime scene or something? Let's get back to PS, shall we.
Looks like the sun is finally setting for profitable sunrise.
Oddly enough, my account is still working and recieving interests.
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03-10-2013, 08:13 PM
#1248
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
Fendaril
Oddly enough, my account is still working and recieving interests.
Looks like there are no problems with payouts for anyone yet, otherwise you'd see a lot of posts on MMG and TG complaining about delays.
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03-10-2013, 08:21 PM
#1249
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
Finix
Looks like there are no problems with payouts for anyone yet, otherwise you'd see a lot of posts on MMG and TG complaining about delays.
I hope the cease and desist doesn't reach my state, as it has NC and AK.
Now those people are blocked from their funds.
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03-10-2013, 08:23 PM
#1250
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
Finix
Manual labor, $11.47/hr. It's a weekend, and I'm sick. Happy now?
Sorry that you are feeling bad. I hope you get better soon.
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