Thread: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

Originally Posted by Fendaril

Haha I love your sarcastic humor.

Regardless, the risk is almost nil. Even 6-12 months would give me a chunk of cash.

my first term will give me $3,000+ which is not a lot of money, but can pay my hosting for years.

A second term will give me $12,000+ which can let me buy a new car.

A third term will give me well over $100,000+ which I can use to put down on my own living quarters

A fourth term would give me 1,000,000+ which would allow me to get my own living quarters and be unemployed for a few years, if I so choose.

Even if this dies in six weeks, which I doubt, than I will get my $80 back. If not, there is no skin off my back.

I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but when Roman runs with the money, you won't be getting your $80 back. There are no refunds to anyone. That's how crooks work. They steal the money and don't give it back. Neither will your sponsor or anyone in your upline, because they, like you, don't care that they helped steal your money. Nice bunch of people you're invovled with aren't they.

What makes you think I was being sarcastic? I didn't use the sarcastic emoticon. I was just pointing out the "facts" about PS.

Originally Posted by Bowtie496

Well then, go even bigger, you seem like a smart guy...why don't you be the head man...I'll help you out.

Change your name to Noman Rovak, create a "business" called profitable sunset, tell people you have been in the hard money/bridge loan game for 6, 8, 15 years, doesn't matter, just remember one do that you don't mess up and tell people different years. Create a website for your "business" maybe trade a 6th grader from your local middle school the latest call of duty video game to create to site for you. Mix in a little Christian goodwill, use "God" "Jesus" "faith" "giving" a lot on your site. Create a shell company overseas called inter-reefer that you claim underwrites all your loans. Offer the sheep 1.5 to 2.17% dailey returns on their investments....but let's go Clintonesque and call them contributions instead. Create private groups to do your recruiting, you can use the usual ponzi shills or find your own. You will soon be rolling in the dough. In case some snoopy folks from RS or law enforcement start to inquire, get a 3rd grader, maybe one who uses English as a second language to create a loan application for you so you look legit. You already said you are not afraid of doing time, you would be the king of the cell block when you tell them you are in for Ponzi. The gang bangers in for agg battery would cower in your presense....get going, you got work to do...

I'd sooner rob a convenience store.

I do want to thank Fendaril for the opportunity to be our foil and exposing how these Ponzi's work and the mindset of many of the people who participate in them.

You see, many people think that everyone participating in their "program" are all honest, hard-working, caring, giving, compassionate, and altruistic people. They are looking for a way to supplement their income in these uncertain times. They are also not in it for the money solely for themselves, but to do good works with some of the money they get from their "program." They don't know that a large percentage of the people in the "program" are just like Fendaril. Also, they truly don't know they are in a Ponzi. The reality is those like Fendaril do and it is how they make a living. They have no qualms about stealing from others as long as they get theirs first. It is why they go from Ponz-to-Ponzi as they know it is easy pickings. Sadly people like Fendaril comprise 30%-40% of the people who participate in Ponzi's.

So anyone reading this thread have now received an education about not only Ponzi's, but also the type of people who participate in them. So a major thank you is due Fendaril for helping to provide this education. A truly working laboratory for Ponzi's.

I think saying the real reason why people join PS is better than sugar-coating it with all the phony 'Lord' and 'Save us' crap. I believed it was a God-send when I first joined, but than I read 17 pages of real scam(this thread) and found that there were 28 other programs that were much like PS, there are even a few in there blessed by God. God blessed them with free room and board behind a cell-block.

Honestly PS is probably the last ponzi I get into. I just want to use it as a springboard for legit business.

Maybe I can set up a ghostbusters site like EagleOne and put up adsense.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

Haha I love your sarcastic humor.

Regardless, the risk is almost nil. Even 6-12 months would give me a chunk of cash.

my first term will give me $3,000+ which is not a lot of money, but can pay my hosting for years.

A second term will give me $12,000+ which can let me buy a new car.

A third term will give me well over $100,000+ which I can use to put down on my own living quarters

A fourth term would give me 1,000,000+ which would allow me to get my own living quarters and be unemployed for a few years, if I so choose.

Even if this dies in six weeks, which I doubt, than I will get my $80 back. If not, there is no skin off my back.

Hot Darn, Please tell us that you're joking. It's way too hard to believe even a naive newbie could be unaware. Surely you jest?

Even the little money makers get excited:

get paid 3 usd,batch:EJN466-247W6R-8AY7VP

Iehyip Monitor

Profitablesunrise - Profitablesunrise.com

Actually, so excited it was posted twice!!

What's up at MMG? Now the first post shows and then there is just a list of posts under it that you have to click on to read. Bizarre. These dolts don't realize that there is only about 4-5 weeks before Roman makes like a rabbit and disappears.

Roman bolting on April fools day would be absolutely priceless....

Originally Posted by EagleOne

What's up at MMG? Now the first post shows and then there is just a list of posts under it that you have to click on to read. Bizarre. These dolts don't realize that there is only about 4-5 weeks before Roman makes like a rabbit and disappears.

I noticed that also. Makes it very difficult to keep up with!

Originally Posted by EagleOne

What's up at MMG? Now the first post shows and then there is just a list of posts under it that you have to click on to read. Bizarre. These dolts don't realize that there is only about 4-5 weeks before Roman makes like a rabbit and disappears.

On other sites, it is usually a setting that has to be changed by the viewer. For example IMDB does this unless I expand the thread.

Originally Posted by Whip

On other sites, it is usually a setting that has to be changed by the viewer. For example IMDB does this unless I expand the thread.

If Roman bolts Real Scam will crash with the overwhelming amount of traffic from people wanting to know what happened.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

If Roman bolts Real Scam will crash with the overwhelming amount of traffic from people wanting to know what happened.

People will know what happened as they have now been warned. But I am sure RS can handle the traffic without any problem. Besides they can get all the info from their group leaders like Nanci Jo Frazer and John Shepcoff since they are such experts in high finance.

chances are its not gonna happen but if fenderal ends up turning that $80 into a million he'll be a lengend on this board

and i find it strange that yall show sympathy for these people who put thier life savings on the line over a ponzi scheme yet yall give Fendaril a hard time and even sarcastlly egg him to bet the house on it ... this is one of the biggest group of hypricites if i ever seen one ... i bet some of yall prob have accounts open with PS on the low ...

Fenderil is one of the realist people on here ... anyone who risk thier family life for a buck is sick ... it has nothing to do with a ponzi scheme that same person would do the same if they seen an angle on the stock market or better yet in Atlantic city @ a casino .... that person is sick period ...

what fenderil is doing isnt illegal but the things yall compare to it ARE ILLEGAL !!!!! like robbing @ gunpoint etc... come on ... im starting to think some of you people are sick ..................... yes ponzi schemes are bad but the only criminal is the head of the game .....

but honestly i cant knock someone who has a spare $80 to throwaway on chance ... i doubt we will be hearing about Fenderil jumping out a window if PS crashes and the owner runs with his $80...

if anything to prevent more suicides ... yall know people are vurnable to makings easy money ... why not warn and advise them to if they invest to invest WISELY ... as you should with anything stocks, gambling etc.... !!!!!!

if anything the suppose "freedom fighters" on the board are the cause of peoples lost furtunes by trying to help bring the ponzis down and alerting the feds ... the feds end up freezing all the assets which stops all the people from getting thier money ... why call in the feds if all they are worrying about is shutting it down and NO ONE GETS PAID ...... or do they hmmmmmmmm (fed$) ... lol

ok im off my soap box ...

shout out to fenderil .... i know i spelled ya name wrong in various different ways .... i hope you dont take offense LOL

Originally Posted by truthlodotcom

yall give Fendaril a hard time and even sarcastlly egg him to bet the house on it ...

Umm, it's called "irony" truthloldotcom.

It's about taking an absurdity and making it more absurd.

If Fendaril or you or anyone else wants to play HYIP ponzis, fine.

It's your money and your choice.

HOWEVER, if anyone wants to come her to REALSCAM.com and claim Profitable Sunrise or any other HYIP ponzi is "real" or that Roman Novak is genuine, then, he/she stands to be ridiculed and the absurdity of what they're saying pointed out.

What we are saying, truthloldotcom, is that if "Fendaril" is so convinced Profitable Sunrise is "real" then why not sell the farm and "invest" it with Profitable Sunrise.

If you find what we said to be absurd, then we have done our job.

Originally Posted by truthloldotcom

chances are its not gonna happen but if fenderal ends up turning that $80 into a million he'll be a lengend on this board

and i find it strange that yall show sympathy for these people who put thier life savings on the line over a ponzi scheme yet yall give Fendaril a hard time and even sarcastlly egg him to bet the house on it ... this is one of the biggest group of hypricites if i ever seen one ... i bet some of yall prob have accounts open with PS on the low ...

Fenderil is one of the realist people on here ... anyone who risk thier family life for a buck is sick ... it has nothing to do with a ponzi scheme that same person would do the same if they seen an angle on the stock market or better yet in Atlantic city @ a casino .... that person is sick period ...

what fenderil is doing isnt illegal but the things yall compare to it ARE ILLEGAL !!!!! like robbing @ gunpoint etc... come on ... im starting to think some of you people are sick ..................... yes ponzi schemes are bad but the only criminal is the head of the game .....

but honestly i cant knock someone who has a spare $80 to throwaway on chance ... i doubt we will be hearing about Fenderil jumping out a window if PS crashes and the owner runs with his $80...

if anything to prevent more suicides ... yall know people are vurnable to makings easy money ... why not warn and advise them to if they invest to invest WISELY ... as you should with anything stocks, gambling etc.... !!!!!!

if anything the suppose "freedom fighters" on the board are the cause of peoples lost furtunes by trying to help bring the ponzis down and alerting the feds ... the feds end up freezing all the assets which stops all the people from getting thier money ... why call in the feds if all they are worrying about is shutting it down and NO ONE GETS PAID ...... or do they hmmmmmmmm (fed$) ... lol

ok im off my soap box ...

shout out to fenderil .... i know i spelled ya name wrong in various different ways .... i hope you dont take offense LOL

LOL, I knew it would not take long and right on time here he/ she is.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

What's up at MMG?

It's not MMG. It's your mode of viewing the forum. You can change it in your settings.

I just love it when the shills come here and try to make us out as the bad guys, and of course everything is a Ponzi so stop picking on mine mantra. The only things left out were the shadow government, iluminati, and one-world order.

OBTW, MMG is back to normal and no changes of settings required. Weird.

Originally Posted by truthloldotcom

and i find it strange that yall show sympathy for these people who put thier life savings on the line over a ponzi scheme

Don't you have any sympathy for them? It's a normal human response to the fate of people who were deceived, betrayed by the people they trusted, etc.

Originally Posted by truthloldotcom

it has nothing to do with a ponzi scheme that same person would do the same if they seen an angle on the stock market or better yet in Atlantic city @ a casino

You are wrong. It has everything to do with a ponzi scheme and the way it is presented to the victims. The admins and promoters don't tell people they are participating in the illegal schemes. Stock market and casinos are legal, and the risks are well known. Ponzi schemes are illegal and have a lot of hidden risks regular people can't even imagine. Knowing that what they are looking at is an illegal scheme will stop most people from participating. Not you, obviously.

Yeah I always found the comparison to me and gunpoint robbery pretty comical.

That is stealing through fear and intimidation. There is no intimidation in this, nor is there any 'force'.

Besides people on here are disillusioned, they have extensive expertise in things such as loans and finance, and probably could get jobs as professors and top managers. They have seen it all.

But in my limited expertise I know there is no other HYIP like profitable sunrise available right now, and there never was anything this big online.

Even if I don't get $1,000,000 back, I can wish, or at the bare minimum get something back.

I wonder how big of a check EagleAssociation would get in reward money for the heads of PS. I see potential on this thread in the future.

if you go on EagleAssociation.com you will see that there is a whole profitable business on which the founder has been featured on numerous talk shows.

There is a commission over Roman's head.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

There is no intimidation in this, nor is there any 'force'

You are right about this one, but who said there is?

Originally Posted by Fendaril

Yeah I always found the comparison to me and gunpoint robbery pretty comical.

That is stealing through fear and intimidation. There is no intimidation in this, nor is there any 'force'.

Besides people on here are disillusioned, they have extensive expertise in things such as loans and finance, and probably could get jobs as professors and top managers. They have seen it all.

But in my limited expertise I know there is no other HYIP like profitable sunrise available right now, and there never was anything this big online.

I see what is crawling out from underneath the woodwork but then again this is typical behavior from scumbags who are trying to steal for a living.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

Even if I don't get $1,000,000 back

You won't get that much unless you are the admin.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

But in my limited expertise I know there is no other HYIP like profitable sunrise available right now, and there never was anything this big online.

Geez, mate,

every time you touch your keyboard you expose just how much of naive newbie you are.

Check out the recently busted by the S.E.C. and U.S. Secret Service Zeek Rewards HYIP ponzi fraud, Fendaril.

At last count it had 2 million members, 1 million of whom were "paid" members and it had approximately $600 MILLION pass through its' accounts that is known about at this time.

By any measure Profitable Sunrise is only a small to medium sized HYIP ponzi.

Good Lord, no wonder you've been in 16 or 17 HYIP ponzi frauds and have come out behind.

You obviously know NOTHING about the world of online HYIP ponzis.

Why don't you go and stand under the shower and flush $50 notes down the drain while you're there.

You'll still lose your dough, but, at least you'll be clean when you've finished.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

Yeah I always found the comparison to me and gunpoint robbery pretty comical.

The difference between a con and a robbery is, in fact, force. They're both larcenies.

So that's your defense: "I didn't force them to give me their money, I only tricked them to do it." That should work.