Thread: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

I will keep an eye on the PS website. It would not suprise to see them rework all of the verbage on the website.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Too funny! He has the word "INVESTMENT" all over his website. Besides it's too late. Anyone with an IQ of at least room temperature knows you are investing. Me thinks Roman may be getting a little worried now that it out in the open that he is not licensed or registered to do investments he might be getting the feds attention.

Not much need for an explanation of the Howey Test with Profitable Sunrise, is there ???

Hoist on their own petard:

Originally Posted by Fat City, LA

How long did he lock in for? They seem to be bringing lots of new $. Could be hope if some of the huge amounts due are reinvested.


Main issue is that Roman would have to be the singular economic mind of our time to make $1000 into $40k over and over.
2.___% per day and no compound would be more realistic.

I think the minimum is 75 business days if I remember correctly. I shared with my friend about what I read here and the possible Easter implosion & obviously he got very worried and started to "sweat." I would too if I had that much tied up in a high risk investment. I am totally the opposite of risk averse, and still would never drop that much on something so nefarious. I honestly hope he gets his $$ back before it folds!

Originally Posted by JCA777

I honestly hope he gets his $$ back before it folds!

For the operators of these small to medium sized HYIP ponzi fraud operators, someone sending in an amount like your friends' $10,000 is like manna from heaven.

An amount of that size means "Roman Novak" can keep hundreds of small time investor/victims convinced they are making money for months, while at the same time encouraging thousands more $5 and $10 "members" to join.

IM(very)HO, your friend has 0 chance of getting his money back, much less make a profit.

Originally Posted by JCA777

I honestly hope he gets his $$ back before it folds!

This is from a well-known hyip PIMPETTE/PUSHER in response to a query re ProfitableSunrise:

Amanda says:
February 6, 2013 at 1:25 am
.......There is only one “sure thing” and that is: every program ever introduced in the HYIP arena has sooner or later “packed its bags and walked away”…period.
There are no Guarantees in HYIP...

Chances are very good that your friend will not see a dime in profit....let alone get his initial investment back...Especially not at this late stage in the game. It is truly a hard lesson learned, and more so, when you have people like Amanda (aka QS) continuing to pimp/recommend these scams...

Originally Posted by littleroundman

For the operators of these small to medium sized HYIP ponzi fraud operators, someone sending in an amount like your friends' $10,000 is like manna from heaven.

An amount of that size means "Roman Novak" can keep hundreds of small time investor/victims convinced they are making money for months, while at the same time encouraging thousands more $5 and $10 "members" to join.

IM(very)HO, your friend has 0 chance of getting his money back, much less make a profit.

Such a bummer. Like I stated, I don't mind risk, but if I can't sleep at night, the risk is too high. I used to trade in commodities (Corn, OJ etc.) and only had a small margin acct. I was happy to brake even when I got out. 10 large would not allow me to sleep at night. I really don't have time to find out who is who in this business and how long they have been around, but from what I've read so far, there seems to be a re-cycling of people & programs. Nothing new under the sun, I guess....

Here...a 'breakdown' of when hyip pimps/pimpettes recommend/encourage those to 'invest':

Alex B says:
January 28, 2013 at 6:33 pm
Amanda,
You seem to be in the know...

Oh, if you only knew...she is 'in the know' more than she will EVER let you know...she just wants your ref comms PERIOD.

Bryce Russell says:
February 4, 2013 at 1:58 am
...I too have concerns about the rate of return and the duration of this program. The saying “if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is” has been foremost in my mind.

Truer words never spoken...BUT will 'Amanda' ever tell you the truth....NEVER...

Francisco says
February 4, 2013 at 10:26 am
Thanks so much Amanda. It encourages me to continue investing part of my profits.

And there you have it...That is what pimps/pimpettes of hyips are for....to continue to ENCOURAGE people to throw away their hard-earned money.

Deborah says:
February 5, 2013 at 6:58 am
I would suggest, if possible to begin with a $300 deposit by bank wire.

Anyone who has been around the hyip arena for any length of time KNOWS you never, ever SUGGEST how much to invest to anyone....But, Thank you DEBORAH for putting this out there...BTW, 'Deborah' is a very good friend of 'Amanda's' on Skype and has been around the hyip scene for quite some time...So much for Amanda's claim of not 'recommending' any hyip scams....

charlie says:
February 5, 2013 at 4:25 am
I would like to know if there are any issues with a larger sum of money. I have seen several videos and blogs confirming successful withdrawals of about $2.00. What about $100? What about $1,000? What about $10,000 or more?

Heavy sigh....

Amanda says:
February 5, 2013 at 4:44 am
@charlie. Please remember these are Daily withdrawals…takes large investments to get Daily withdrawals that are HUGE.

This is only a minor glimpse of how pimps/pimpettes/promoters of hyips work...

This might or might not work but tell your friend to ask PS for a refund due to financial hardship. If PS is rolling in the dough at this moment it might just work. It never hurts to ask. If he can not get a refund then chances are slim he will recover much $$$.

Originally Posted by JCA777

Such a bummer. Like I stated, I don't mind risk, but if I can't sleep at night, the risk is too high. I used to trade in commodities (Corn, OJ etc.) and only had a small margin acct. I was happy to brake even when I got out. 10 large would not allow me to sleep at night. I really don't have time to find out who is who in this business and how long they have been around, but from what I've read so far, there seems to be a re-cycling of people & programs. Nothing new under the sun, I guess....

ProfitableSunrise:

Watch the 'tag team'(Amanda and Deborah) in action...(This is how they get you):

Amanda says:
June 11, 2012 at 3:36 am
ProfitableSunrise Review Published!

Deborah says:
June 11, 2012 at 4:32 am
Thanks so much for providing a review on Profitable Sunrise...

Thanks so much nothing....

Amanda says:
June 11, 2012 at 4:39 am
@Deborah. Welcome to MIN and I am so happy the review was helpful...

Oh PUHLEASE...'Amanda' and 'Deborah' are very good friends on Skype and have been for quite some time...They know one another from other scams they've pimped/recommended...Don't let this fool you...They know one another very well...'Tag you're it'...

Deborah says:
June 12, 2012 at 4:35 am
It is a very good sign when a ceo moves forward with the movement of funds by looking at all viable options.

Amanda says:
June 16, 2012 at 12:11 am
I decided to put a little in this program and received my first interest payment along with an email right on time. Everything is efficiently done
06/15/2012 06:44 99501345 U3508025 (Profitable S…)
06/13/2012 09:11 99202800 U3508025 (Profitable S…)

You will notice 'Amanda' NEVER EVER puts the $ amount in her posts....gee wonder why that is?

Deborah says:
June 24, 2012 at 4:43 am
I love how I get an email every time I earn in my account....

'Earned in your account' means squat...and Amanda and Deborah know full well those are just numbers on a screen....Do they care?...NO...Do they want to keep sucking you in?...YES

Amanda says:
June 24, 2012 at 4:54 am
@Deborah. Most Admin don’t take our feelings seriously – I like that Mr. Novak does.

HaHaHa...Do you think for one second that an Admin of any hyip gives a rat's ass about yours/mine/ours/their feelings?? Perhaps one should ask 'Amanda' how the other admins she pimped for felt...Do you think she will tell you the truth? NOT!

Deborah says:
June 28, 2012 at 4:14 am
Wow, I sent a bank wire and it was seamless. I got an email verifying they received the funds...

Big deal...So you sent money off to an 'unknown source' and THEY received it and you are all excited about it? Watch the 'tag team' response from 'Amanda'...

admin(aka 'Amanda' of her scam site) says:
June 28, 2012 at 8:16 am
@Deborah. I am impressed, as well...

Well, again...Big deal...
Folks, 'Amanda' and 'Deborah' are known to they hyip world as pimpettes and those who recommend scams...They just don't want you to know that...If ever you see them pimping/recommending a 'program'....RUN

ProfitableSunrise

Dennis says:
February 10, 2013 at 9:00 pm
...remember with Risk Comes Reward….. Go big or go home !!!!!!! God Bless

eghan says:
February 11, 2013 at 5:58 pm
pls is PS going to be there for five years

Amanda says:
February 12, 2013 at 12:02 am
@eghan. If you are looking at HYIP you know it could be 5 days, 5 weeks, 5 months…there is no way to know. I believe five years would probably set a record so I certainly wouldn’t count on that.

One of my favorite lines from the notice of when a person gets paid by Roman is this line, and I quote:

"We are doing our best to safely increase your savings and make you a happier person."

This sounds as if it came straight out of a 419 Nigerian E-mail scam form E-mail. But this is not a Ponzi and is blessed by God.

Romans' full statement actually reads:

Originally Posted by Roman Novak

"We are doing our best to safely increase your savings. Unfortunately, our best is not very good and your savings are not safe nor are they increasing, except on your screen"

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Romans' full statement actually reads:

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Hey I have read most of your posts in this thread, and I must say your arguments are well constructed and non-sentimental.

The bottom line is, everyone who participates in a HYIP ponzi scheme wants to make money. Money is the motivating factor regardless of how it is obtained, ill-gotten or not.

I expect to make $1,000,000 out of this in 2 years before it crashes and burns to the ground because the opportunity arose to make money the talentless way and I take it.

You cannot care if you will step on other people's foot, you need to take money where you see it and not care.

Look I love people, but PS is so juicy and the ponzi is being spread.

Come get a taste of it, I know you want it.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

Hey I have read most of your posts in this thread, and I must say your arguments are well constructed and non-sentimental.

The bottom line is, everyone who participates in a HYIP ponzi scheme wants to make money. Money is the motivating factor regardless of how it is obtained, ill-gotten or not.

I expect to make $1,000,000 out of this in 2 years before it crashes and burns to the ground because the opportunity arose to make money the talentless way and I take it.

You cannot care if you will step on other people's foot, you need to take money where you see it and not care.

Look I love people, but PS is so juicy and the ponzi is being spread.

Come get a taste of it, I know you want it.

You're kidding about me wanting a 'taste of it," right? If not, you really don't know me. I don't steal from others, and this is all that is going on with PS. Nice to see you have no morals about stealing from others as long as you get yours and you don't care who you hurt. Rather odd for a program that is supposed to be blessed by God isn't it.

This lasting another 2 years? This will be lucky to last another 6 weeks.

Actually I hope I do step on some toes and get people to wake-up and realize there is nothing real about PS, and all they are doing is stealing from others all in the name of greed, which you have adequately proven. And yes I do care, and that's why I am exposing this is a Ponzi. Sucks for you doesn't it.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

I expect to make $1,000,000 out of this in 2 years before it crashes and burns to the ground

YeeHaw, have YOU got a lot to learn about the HYIP ponzi biz pardner.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

Hey I have read most of your posts in this thread, and I must say your arguments are well constructed and non-sentimental.

The bottom line is, everyone who participates in a HYIP ponzi scheme wants to make money. Money is the motivating factor regardless of how it is obtained, ill-gotten or not.

I expect to make $1,000,000 out of this in 2 years before it crashes and burns to the ground because the opportunity arose to make money the talentless way and I take it.

You cannot care if you will step on other people's foot, you need to take money where you see it and not care.

Look I love people, but PS is so juicy and the ponzi is being spread.

Come get a taste of it, I know you want it.

LOL.....At least you're an honest scammer.....

$1million is 2 years??....You also a stupid scammer if you think that will happen....

Originally Posted by Fendaril

I expect to make $1,000,000 out of this in 2 years before it crashes and burns

That idea is not yours alone, its what makes hyip work so well in short term.
Seen it 1000's of times on forums.

PS is already ancient for a high interest % and compounding hyip/income opp.
I can think of a few that last 2 plus years.
They were all 1% per day/weekdays. Admins were actual forex traders.

Big If, but IF Roman can pay out this easter, we see thousands more go into PS.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

You cannot care if you will step on other people's foot, you need to take money where you see it and not care.

That's certainly the excuse of three-card-monte players, boiler room operators and bank robbers.

Originally Posted by wserra

That's certainly the excuse of three-card-monte players, boiler room operators and bank robbers.

You forgot to add bankers and politicians. lol

Originally Posted by littleroundman

YeeHaw, have YOU got a lot to learn about the HYIP ponzi biz pardner.

Is that Fendaril or overdose of Benadryl??

Take or be taken.

Hmm, it seems that I have upset the "delicate sensitivities" of a few people at MMG. It seems our old pimping friend Frabi especially doesn't like my posts. They don't want me posting about their Ponzi but to pick on the other Ponzi's promoted at MMG. Funny, that's what the other threads say when I post in them.

Of course if I was having "no effect" as they claim, they wouldn't be complaining about my posts. Now I am out for the blood of Roman and PS. Ah if it was only that simple.

I guess the cockroaches don't like the light. They just want to be left alone so that they can recruit more revenue sources before this whole thing goes Tango Union. Tuesday was Fat Tuesday, beginning of Lent on Ash Wednesday....now down to 39 days until the Easter payout....

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Hmm, it seems that I have upset the "delicate sensitivities" of a few people at MMG. It seems our old pimping friend Frabi especially doesn't like my posts. They don't want me posting about their Ponzi but to pick on the other Ponzi's promoted at MMG. Funny, that's what the other threads say when I post in them.

Of course if I was having "no effect" as they claim, they wouldn't be complaining about my posts. Now I am out for the blood of Roman and PS. Ah if it was only that simple.

Just make sure it's after 2 years.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

Just make sure it's after 2 years.

You are in for a very huge disappointment if you want this to run 2 more years. As I said, he will be lucky to last another 6 weeks, if that. But until then, enjoy stealing other people's money.