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01-25-2013, 11:33 PM
#351
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
baylee
I grew up in Ohio and am going back to visit in-laws and out laws after the snow and ice is done with. I will make a detour to Edgerton on my way home. This will be fun and I will report back when done.
Well if PS goes down before then, you might have to see him visiting his wife in jail by then, or on the unemployment line. I don't think the bank board would be too thrilled to have their manager's wife in jail for being in a Ponzi that he should have been able to prevent.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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01-25-2013, 11:48 PM
#352
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
I have seen some blatantly stupid and outright ridiculous things associated with HYIP ponzi frauds in my time, but, this must be one of the most outrageous examples of criminal behaviour going unpunished.
HYIPs being deliberately and publicly associated with 501(c) charities is beneath contempt.
Last edited by littleroundman; 01-26-2013 at 12:01 AM.
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01-25-2013, 11:54 PM
#353
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
My intro to this disaster in waiting.
1st
I saw a poster in a forum who put in $1K and was expecting like $80k back.
2nd
Pictures of this Roman character at a refugee camp handing out bibles.
I thought....vomit or cry?
The HYIP Monsters are already bailing. (they will still take that referral $)
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01-25-2013, 11:58 PM
#354
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Here ya go, obscenity with a capital O
Focus Up Ministries donation page
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01-26-2013, 12:00 AM
#355
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
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01-26-2013, 01:34 AM
#356
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Fat City, LA: Post the pictures here, or post a link. I would love to see them.
Last edited by EagleOne; 01-26-2013 at 02:03 AM.
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Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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01-26-2013, 02:54 AM
#357
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
For anyone who missed them from earlier in the thread:
Here ya go, like a little charity fraud to go along with your Sunrise ??
Nanci Jo Frazer on Twitter
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01-26-2013, 02:48 PM
#358
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
Fat City, LA: Post the pictures here, or post a link. I would love to see them.
I have no idea where to start to find them.
The $1k to $80K was in a forum where at same time a guy looking for a "group deal" to get his young daughters involved in PS.
It was sad. Ring a bell to anyone who is in the forums?
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01-27-2013, 04:25 PM
#359
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
I was introduced to PS by a couple of friends who wanted me to look into it. I found this thread and it is interesting reading to say the least. One question that keeps coming up is whether or not PS is actually doing bridge/hard money loans. I found this on their website.....seems like a legitimate loan app for a business........(dripping sarcasm)
http://loans.profitablesunrise.com/images/form.pdf
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01-27-2013, 08:47 PM
#360
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
HeHe,
all they need to do is put the name of the Nigerian woman whose husband died and left her $120 million dollars to send to a stranger and this would be perfect.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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01-27-2013, 09:32 PM
#361
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Well no business could survive the mafia type interest rates being charged at a claim of up to 3% per day. Imagine you are a business owner and you borrow 100k. At the end of the month you will owe 190k which would surely sink you. The only way you could see these kind of interest rates is with drug trafficking or financing terrorism perhaps.
Originally Posted by
Bowtie496
I was introduced to PS by a couple of friends who wanted me to look into it. I found this thread and it is interesting reading to say the least. One question that keeps coming up is whether or not PS is actually doing bridge/hard money loans. I found this on their website.....seems like a legitimate loan app for a business........(dripping sarcasm)
http://loans.profitablesunrise.com/images/form.pdf
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01-27-2013, 09:56 PM
#362
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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01-27-2013, 10:12 PM
#363
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
I love the "I hereby confirm that I am the ONWER / Co Founder of the company" line
Amateurish much ???
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01-27-2013, 11:40 PM
#364
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
My second favorite request was:
I enclose the copy of my ID, the copy of my utility and phone bills with my name on it.
I also loved you cannot be involved with Alcohol, Firearms, Tobacco, Gambling and Abortion. I guess this means that prostitution, drugs, money laudering and fraud are permitted.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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01-28-2013, 02:57 AM
#365
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
"Madam" now ????
My, my, aren't we moving up in the (HYIP ponzi fraud) world ??
Dennison86 Blogspot
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01-28-2013, 01:08 PM
#366
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com...zA0NjI5MTg%3D0
LOL, Nanci Jo Frazer interviewing Albert Rosebrock of tiny town Sherwood, OH on how to do bankwires.....why in the world wouldn't Nanci interview her Bank Manager husband of 25 years, David Frazer, on how to do this?
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01-28-2013, 01:26 PM
#367
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
very little on this 'Miss North America'
And someone should tell 'Miss Ohio' she's been over looked:
Former Miss Ohio’s | An official Miss America State Program
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01-28-2013, 01:37 PM
#368
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
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01-28-2013, 03:53 PM
#369
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
INTERESTING!!
Bankruptcies Notices
Case Number: 10-33728
Chapter: 7
Filed Date: May 27, 2010
Entered Date: May 27, 2010
Discharged Date: Sep 23, 2010
Judge: SPEER
Trustee: Parker
Fee: $0.00
County: Williams
Name:Nancy Jo Frazer
Address:
337 Center St
Bryan, OH 43506
Party Type Debtor
Name: Advanta Bank Corp in receivershi
Address:
POB 3001
Malvern, PA 19355-0701
Party Type Creditor
Name: Farmers & Merchants State Bank
Address:
307-11 N. Defiance Street
P.O. Box 216
P.O. Box 216
Archbold, OH 43502
Party Type Creditor
Name: Fifth Third Bank
Address:
P O Box 829009
Dallas, TX 75382
Party Type Creditor
Toledo Legal News : Bankruptcy Court : Case Number 10-33728 : Nancy Jo Frazer : Advanta Bank Corp in receivershi : Farmers & Merchants State Bank : Fifth Third Bank
Don't get ripped off!! Stay informed!
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01-28-2013, 03:55 PM
#370
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Wow, using her real name of Nancy Jo Frazer turns up even more through a Google Search.
The admin of Profitable Sunrise (Roman Novak) has been in this business for 10 years,but over the past two years, the demand has been so great such that they have pursued outside partners to meet the demand for capital to help current clients and referrals of those clients which is where investors I
DrGetRichOnline.com
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01-28-2013, 09:11 PM
#371
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
Whip
Actually she was Mrs. Ohio 1997 I believe. In one of the blogs they left out the "R." But what is really strange is that for the Miss North America Pageant not to have a list of winnners prior to 2003. Can't be that prestigious of a beauty pageant if they can't provide a list of winners from their inception.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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01-28-2013, 10:11 PM
#372
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
Actually she was Mrs. Ohio 1997 I believe. In one of the blogs they left out the "R." But what is really strange is that for the Miss North America Pageant not to have a list of winnners prior to 2003. Can't be that prestigious of a beauty pageant if they can't provide a list of winners from their inception.
Quite the egregious error in the screen shot post by LRM where they spell out 'Miss'. lol. Nothing a missing 'R' can fix there. And I couldn't find anything about a past winners list for the North America stuff.
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01-29-2013, 01:39 PM
#373
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
does any one know exactly how long this PS ponzi has been going on and are there any estimates on when it could fail.
Even though its a ponzi I sure wouldn't mind getting a 205% return over the 180 day term of the investment.
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01-29-2013, 03:36 PM
#374
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
whiskey
does any one know exactly how long this PS ponzi has been going on and are there any estimates on when it could fail.
Even though its a ponzi I sure wouldn't mind getting a 205% return over the 180 day term of the investment.
It was launched on 11/11/11, so it has been running for 14 months. As to when it could fail? It could fail tomorrow, the end of the week, next week, next month, or whenever Roman feels he has stolen enough money for him to live comfortably until his next Ponzi.
As for your putting money in, as long as you are comfortable stealing from others, but remember they are stealing from you, when you invest, I would say hock your house, car and life savings and dump as much money in this as you can. But when you lose it all (your house, car, and life savings), remember you just wanted to get in on the 205% return.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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01-29-2013, 03:55 PM
#375
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
It was launched on 11/11/11, so it has been running for 14 months. As to when it could fail? It could fail tomorrow, the end of the week, next week, next month, or whenever Roman feels he has stolen enough money for him to live comfortably until his next Ponzi.
As for your putting money in, as long as you are comfortable stealing from others, but remember they are stealing from you, when you invest, I would say hock your house, car and life savings and dump as much money in this as you can. But when you lose it all (your house, car, and life savings), remember you just wanted to get in on the 205% return.
The way i was thinking. if i continue to warn people away from it, any gains I am getting are coming from the people running the scheme, assuming I get out in time. Because everyone who is investing is going to invest wether i invest or not and i will always tell people its a scam. I think people who can't seem to understand that no one could pay these interest rates are just plain crazy.
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