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04-05-2013, 02:13 PM
#1951
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
Yes: Nanci Jo Frazer, John Schepcoff, Tony Infante, Chris Lombardi, Owen Brown, Dr. Goddie Ude, Nigel Band, Dr. Lieven, Ken Russo, Faith Sloan, Richard Marks, Martin Sipe, Mike Rothermel would be a good start.
I believe their activities are well beyond of just PS and will require separate cases.
Last edited by EagleOne; 04-18-2013 at 08:01 PM.
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04-05-2013, 02:43 PM
#1952
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
Yes: Nanci Jo Frazer, John Schepcoff, Tony Infante, Chris Lombardi, Owen Brown, Dr. Goddie Ude, Nigel Band, Dr. Lieven, Ken Russo, Faith Sloan, Richard Marks, Martin Sipe, Mike Rothermel would be a good start.
I would add Don Gillette from Florida to that group
He was the self-proclaimed #1 recruiter for prosun. He bragged he had over 5000 in his downline.
He gave presentations everyday that he invited people to watch
One of his big examples was a lady who worked for ATT in Texas who he talked into putting $30,000 from her 401K into PS.
He bragged that he would make $1 million in commissions from that one account. He showed screenshots of a text he received from her that said her accounts would be worth $23 million in 12 months.
He claimed that he was pulling out over $3000 per week.
This guy is a gem
Just google Don Gillette scam and look at all the fun things he has been involved with
Last edited by EagleOne; 04-18-2013 at 08:01 PM.
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04-05-2013, 02:57 PM
#1953
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
NikSam
I believe their activities are well beyond of just PS and will require separate cases.
Sorry, forgot the Sarcasm emoticon.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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04-05-2013, 03:13 PM
#1954
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Companies and people who were involved in bank wires:
Color Shock
Director: IRENA BAREŠOVA
Registry: https://or.justice.cz/ias/ui/rejstri...az=Color+Shock
PDF:colorshock.pdf
Melland
Director: ALEXANDER SMIRNOV
Registry: https://or.justice.cz/ias/ui/rejstri...?dotaz=melland
PDF: http://goo.gl/M6LSV
Fortuna-K
Directors: Alexandr Korolenko & Artem Leonov (Czech residents but ukrainian and russian names)
Registry: https://or.justice.cz/ias/ui/rejstri...taz=261+41+809
PDF: fortunaK.pdf
Solutions
Director: Moran Sosa Obet Lenin
Registry: https://or.justice.cz/ias/ui/rejstri...taz=241+30+699
PDF: solutions.pdf
Last edited by littleroundman; 04-05-2013 at 07:19 PM.
Reason: Edited at User's Request
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04-05-2013, 03:31 PM
#1955
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
Yes: Nanci Jo Frazer, John Schepcoff, Tony Infante, Chris Lombardi, Owne Brown, Dr. Goddie Ude, Nigel Band, Dr. Lieven, Ken Russo, Faith Sloan, Richard Marks, Mike Rothermel would be a good start.
Don't let us forget Mary Evelyn Simpson from Adlandpro and her 25,000+ spam list. The woman is still posting her encouraging quotes in Scamland forums in oprder to try to inspire those who follow her as the winner of 2012 Adlandpro Person of the Year award. Perhaps some of those who followed her into Zeek will begin to wake up and spill the beans on this serial ponzi promoter instead of buying the Sisel health and beauty products which she promotes in her signature files.
Mary Evelyn Simpson
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04-05-2013, 04:14 PM
#1956
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
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04-05-2013, 05:10 PM
#1957
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
I really, honestly and truly try to avoid "laugh and point" quotes when they don't come from someone being malicious. But Damn:
Write a comment...
Dawna Sanchez
Look clearly we have self-important individuals who get offended when their unsolicited opinions bare no weight and are dismissed, don’t get offended when they become abusive and insulting use the block feature and keep it push’n, clearly they lack self-control and require the agreement of others to sustain their confidence. If you can’t agree to disagree go to the little table with the rest of the children last I checked the rest of us are grown and didn’t require your input to participate so guess what your input now is not warranted. Have a good day.
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Ms. Sanchez seems like a very nice lady and I hope she makes better investment decisions in the future.
So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.
Open up your heart...
Welcome to
RealScam.com.
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04-05-2013, 05:22 PM
#1958
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
GlimDropper
I really, honestly and truly try to avoid "laugh and point" quotes when they don't come from someone being malicious. But Damn:
Ms. Sanchez seems like a very nice lady and I hope she makes better investment decisions in the future.
I interpret her a bit differently. She is acting like all major shills and pimps by utilizing every excuse possible to avoid all information that casts the harsh light of reality on the scam! jmvho
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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04-05-2013, 05:24 PM
#1959
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
NikSam
Admins please correct my mistake in first post to the correct company:
Fortuna-K
Directors: Alexandr Korolenko & Artem Leonov (Czech residents but ukrainian and russian names)
Registry: https://or.justice.cz/ias/ui/rejstri...taz=261+41+809
PDF: fortunaK.pdf
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04-05-2013, 05:56 PM
#1960
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
GlimDropper
I really, honestly and truly try to avoid "laugh and point" quotes when they don't come from someone being malicious. But Damn:
Ms. Sanchez seems like a very nice lady and I hope she makes better investment decisions in the future.
Yes, as Ribshaw stares into his crystal blowing ball he predicts many more ill informed decisions with the level of research she is doing. The below is a quote from her Facebook wall:
Dawna Sanchez shared Meshach Arulraj's photo.
March 26
ATTENTION EVERYBODY - ANTI-CHRIST, ILLUMINANTS TAKING
OVER!!
A must read.
666 = The mark of the Beast President Obama Vs ;Revelation13:15 -18
"The US Senate has passed the Obama Health Care' bill into law. The
implementation would commence on 23/03/2013. This bill would
require all Americans to be implanted with a
Radio Frequency Identification(RFID) chip
in order to access medical care."
Had she taken the time to properly research the above piece of information she would know you only get the RFID when you are in the FEMA Camps. And even then it is only for the people with Yellow Stickers on their mailboxes, people with Red and Blue Stickers get no healthcare. Juss sayin she can't be expecting people to prove the SEC document is real if she is too lazy to cross reference a few New World Order blogs before posting something.
https://www.facebook.com/dawnasanchez
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04-05-2013, 06:15 PM
#1961
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Just goes to show, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand the power of compound interest. ;)
I think we can leave Ms. Sanchez alone now, after all, she's a victim too (in more ways than one).
So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.
Open up your heart...
Welcome to
RealScam.com.
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04-05-2013, 06:18 PM
#1962
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
laidback
I interpret her a bit differently. She is acting like all major shills and pimps by utilizing every excuse possible to avoid all information that casts the harsh light of reality on the scam! jmvho
Well, she has a point, it's not empirical evidence
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04-05-2013, 07:00 PM
#1963
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
okosh
So who did they serve this on??...They found Roman??....
Unlike members of HYIP forums, the S.E.C. and courts are not given to believing that "Roman Novak" is behind all of this.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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04-05-2013, 07:15 PM
#1964
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
Gregg
Well, she has a point, it's not empirical evidence
Good point. Since empirical evidence is generally gained by observation and she refuses to observe......
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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04-05-2013, 07:36 PM
#1965
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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04-05-2013, 07:46 PM
#1966
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
This SEC event is very interesting. They are actually following the money trail even though its OFFSHORE! I will be watching with great interest to see if they can find the originator of these foreign bank accounts.
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04-05-2013, 08:10 PM
#1967
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
Former Player
This SEC event is very interesting. They are actually following the money trail even though its OFFSHORE! I will be watching with great interest to see if they can find the originator of these foreign bank accounts.
AND, more importantly, the Czech authorities have frozen at least one of the accounts.
More and more countries are joining the international anti-money laundering efforts.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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04-05-2013, 08:24 PM
#1968
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
So glad this site is back. I almost though RS died.
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04-05-2013, 09:03 PM
#1969
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
GlimDropper
I really, honestly and truly try to avoid "laugh and point" quotes when they don't come from someone being malicious. But Damn:
Ms. Sanchez seems like a very nice lady and I hope she makes better investment decisions in the future.
She belongs in the "hope she has taken a second and third mortgage on the house and maxed out credit card group" One can only hope.
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04-06-2013, 12:07 AM
#1970
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
GlimDropper
I really, honestly and truly try to avoid "laugh and point" quotes when they don't come from someone being malicious. But Damn:
Ms. Sanchez seems like a very nice lady and I hope she makes better investment decisions in the future.
She looks like a mail order bride.....
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ
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04-06-2013, 12:33 AM
#1971
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
It's not hard to tell that in the Sanchez household, DEnial is not just DEname of DEriver
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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04-06-2013, 12:35 AM
#1972
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Now that the end for Profitable Sunrise is for certain with the recent SEC order, I feel that all members who were "invited" into Profitable Sunrise and lost their investment should come together and attempt to recover lost funds. This can be done through the judicial system, both criminally and civilly. Instead of all of us who are out money going our own separate ways to recoup our funds, we need one point of contact to organize all of our information (how we came into Profitable Sunrise, who our upline is, who our group leader is, how much did we invest, in what program did we invest (private plane, long haul, or combination, and how much we lost, what banks or payment processors did our funds go to, etc..). We need this information to go to one source who can then mediate our information to various law enforcement agencies to begin the criminal investigation. We then need to consult with one law firm who specializes in fraud/ponzi schemes for civil action. The more organized we get, the better our chances of getting something done and recover some of our funds.
In my situation, I decided to get into Profitable Sunrise under John Schepcoff and joined in February. The reasons: he has been a coach and mentor in finances for the past 30 years; he is an "expert" in compounding"; nobody in Profitable Sunrise can do what he does due to his finance background and compound expertise; he was so good at bringing in new people into Profitable Sunrise that he was "promoted" as a team "trainer" by Profitable Sunrise (not sure whether it was Nanci Frazer or Roman Novak who gave him this promotion?); we can trust him because he will always be available for us, he has no negative history on the internet; we follow his advice, and we can double, triple, quadruple our money in record time; he will be there to hold our hand, much like training/teaching a child to ride a bike; did I mention he has been a coach and mentor for the past 30 years?; he had done his due diligence on Roman Novak, Profitable Sunrise and Nanci Frazer; Profitable Sunrise is not a Ponzi because we are paid from Roman's loan proceeds not from our "rented" funds to Roman; Nanci Frazer is a pastor and only wants good Christian like people in her group; "come with me" I'll show you the way; if you "step up to the plate" you make a significant amount of money; just come in with at least $500, but I (the I refers to Schepcoff) would like you to come in with more, much like I did with $19,000, I want you to make more money than me, why, because I like helping people; but if you don't have at least $500 don't bother calling me - I don't have time for you; I have people who have "stepped up to the plate" and put in $20,000, $30,000, $40,000, even $60,000 in Profitable Sunrise, I even had someone wanting to put in $100,000; I have people all over the world in my downline; I am so busy with new referrals that I created a password protected back office on my website with instructional youtube videos so you don't have to call me; your money is safe, no need to worry about that because our money is guaranteed by insurance, the loans are "securitized" and I am the only one in Profitable Sunrise that talks about "securitization"; our funds are safe not only because they are insured and "securitized" but also because Roman requires hard collateral of at least 50 to 60% from his loan customers; Roman is so picky that he only loans out 1 in every 5 applicants; did I mention that I did my due diligence on Roman Novak?; the serious money is made in the long haul program - that is where I coach and mentor you to put your funds; don't touch the money from your Easter gift, get with Wayne Wakefield and set up a Nevada Corporation with an offshore bank account to avoid (not evade) taxes you would other wise pay if you brought the funds into the U.S.; and lately (since the North Carolina cease and desist order came out) I am just a participant like you (never mind all that stuff about I am the only one in Profitable Sunrise that coaches and mentors, a promoted team trainer, an expert in compounding, and expert on "securitization") I have reduced myself to a simple participant like you, and by the way, don't call me because I no longer answer my phone, oh, oh wait, I have an MLM program I would like you to join involving cell phones, I will coach and mentor you with that too.
The above all comes from Mr. Schepcoff's own mouth from his numerous youtube videos, emails or websites (he had more than one). He has shut down his websites and youtube videos, but he may want to know that ALL of his videos have likely already been captured by law enforcement and/or saved on separate servers by other individuals. If law enforcement does not have them already, a simple subpoena will surely get them.
I am recommending that anybody who was enticed or coached and mentored by Mr. Schepcoff in Profitable Sunrise, or any other significant promoter of Profitable Sunrise, to contact Lynn Edgington at 949-837-6078 or Eagle Research Associates, Inc. - Home Page to be our one-stop source for information gathering. We can then all collaborate our resources and decide the next plan of action. I reached out to Lynn earlier this week for the first time and can tell you that he has been on top of the Profitable Sunrise ponzi investigation since at least last October. He has many resources in the state and federal law enforcement field and will certainly be an advocate for those in Profitable Sunrise seeking action against the big time promoters in an attempt to get some/all of our lost funds recovered.
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04-06-2013, 12:37 AM
#1973
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
NikSam
They serve it on a UK company and other companies who held the bank accounts.
since they are legal entities in their local jurisdictions, if there is any penny in the world in their name it will be claimed.
do you have a better idea who should be served ? :)
Sure do....The list Lynne posted plus all the shills at MMG and TG
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ
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04-06-2013, 03:15 AM
#1974
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
okosh
Sure do....The list Lynne posted plus all the shills at MMG and TG
Ok, i know we want everyone who responsible be punished but, if you want an action now, first things - first.
Adding more defendants to the list on this case will only delay and require deep investigation into each individual, so do you want it be hanging in the air for couple years ?
I am sure those will be addressed in separate cases and those who lost money have a legitimate claim against a "leader" who recruited him into PS.
Spread the word so victims act against pimps.
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04-06-2013, 03:55 AM
#1975
Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?
Originally Posted by
NikSam
Ok, i know we want everyone who responsible be punished but, if you want an action now, first things - first.
Adding more defendants to the list on this case will only delay and require deep investigation into each individual, so do you want it be hanging in the air for couple years ?
2 years??...5 years??...You in a rush??...I'd stretch this out for 10 years if it means we get all the Ken Russo's and Faith Sloans into prison...
Let them sweat.....Let them lose sleep for a couple of years wondering how much jail time they gonna do...
Besides...Bubba in the Federal prison house ain't going anywhere....He'll still be there waiting for them in 2-5 years....
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ
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