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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    I'm so glad that this scam is being shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat City, LA View Post
    Profitablesunrise - Profitablesunrise.com - Page 408 - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum

    Poster on talkgold= group had 8000 members & $12 million in a private plan.

    This is a gutting.
    $12million????....Cow droppings IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Please name one.
    Been heaps.....The latest one being pimped by Ken Russo makes no claim of payments being from anything other then deposits from members. In other words a ponzi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okosh View Post
    Been heaps.....The latest one being pimped by Ken Russo makes no claim of payments being from anything other then deposits from members. In other words a ponzi.
    Hmm, been heaps. Haven't heard of that one.
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    The faithful are claiming that Roman will rename Profitable Sunrise once the website has been moved to the China servers and bring it back under the new name. By putting the servers in China, it is out of reach of the US authorities. Honest Injun that's the story and you can't make this stuff up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Please name one.
    The only one that I can remember that said the whole thing was a game was one which I tried as a PUNT in 2004 or some time around then called synch funds or something like that. It lasted under a week. That was the first and last time which I tried an online money game. At least it did state that stated whan there were no more punters, the game was up!

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    Cease and desist hasn't reached New York yet. I wonder why

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    we do not chew up and spit out people here that have differeing views from ours.
    No? What a ripoff.

    I'm reporting you guys.
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    What confuses me is, who actually shut down the site? What power would any state have individually to shut him down? Let's say the servers are in CA, then maybe he really is moving them out of state where CA doesn't have the jurisdiction?
    And why isn't Roman arrested? He was supposedly contacted by a news channel and claimed he's a vicitm also. Lastly, where is the Fed in all this. It would seem states have no power really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkepticalOne View Post
    What confuses me is, who actually shut down the site? What power would any state have individually to shut him down? Let's say the servers are in CA, then maybe he really is moving them out of state where CA doesn't have the jurisdiction?
    And why isn't Roman arrested? He was supposedly contacted by a news channel and claimed he's a vicitm also. Lastly, where is the Fed in all this. It would seem states have no power really.

    The website is down because "Roman" wants it down, and I'll be migrating servers has nothing to do with it, more likely its "migrating Roman" to a place with more beaches than extradition treaties. I very much doubt there is a real "Roman Novak" he's just a fictional character. They can't arrest him for the same reason the tooth fairy doesn't pay tax, because he doesn't exist. I'm sure there is a real person running all this, but the likes of Nanci Jo Frazer sure don't know who or where he is, they're the ones set up to take the fall.
    I'd also not be surprised that the same person isn't behind one or more other programs currently running, and maybe one will be the next big thing.

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    And the rumors keep flowing:


    • Bismark Eghan Breaking news on Roman Novak website project

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      Breaking news from another group which has shared this with me. By the thanks to(John S.) and (Michael S.) for this information below.

      "Tina Talmack: The latest greatest news to me 2 days ago was PS was moving operations to Hong Kong where the biggest servers in the world are located and cannot be governed by any internet laws PERIOD, so get ready my fellow members, Roman is making this possible and has all of our best interest at hand. Hence reason Roman is relocating all his operations to Hong Kong. Let's see what power Roman has to get him and us out of this corrupt USA interference."

      I understand that Tina is a big Group Leader in PS.
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    So Hong Kong refuses to enforce any internet laws PERIOD? Good luck with that.

    Oh, a "new" website is being floated as possibly THE new ProSun site over on MMG. ProfitableSunriseInvitation dot com. Sorry folks, that's just a recruiting page set up by one of the downline groups. For one thing it's been online for two weeks and is linked to it's own facebook page. Another thing, one of the excuses for needing a new website was to make it "more secure" and that website has no security what so ever. Hell it doesn't even encrypt your login or password so if you signed into the real PS site through that one your average script kiddy could steal your account info.

    Oh well, the next few days will be a river in Egypt for many of the Pro Sun faithful.


    On edit: I'm just waiting for one of the big downline pimps to sooth the angst filled masses with something like:

    I just got an email from Roman. He's very sorry that the server migration is taking longer than expected and will send out an update soon. But the GREAT news is that he assures us that all of our accounts WILL compound while the servers are down. So we're still making money even if we can't see it in our back offices.

    He's such a fine Christian man.
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    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper View Post
    And the rumors keep flowing:



    So Hong Kong refuses to enforce any internet laws PERIOD? Good luck with that.

    Oh, a "new" website is being floated as possibly THE new ProSun site over on MMG. ProfitableSunriseInvitation dot com. Sorry folks, that's just a recruiting page set up by one of the downline groups. For one thing it's been online for two weeks and is linked to it's own facebook page. Another thing, one of the excuses for needing a new website was to make it "more secure" and that website has no security what so ever. Hell it doesn't even encrypt your login or password so if you signed into the real PS site through that one your average script kiddy could steal your account info.

    Oh well, the next few days will be a river in Egypt for many of the Pro Sun faithful.


    On edit: I'm just waiting for one of the big downline pimps to sooth the angst filled masses with something like:
    Hong Kong Would probably want a piece of Roman's money cake. It will do more than good for PS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    The website is down because "Roman" wants it down, and I'll be migrating servers has nothing to do with it, more likely its "migrating Roman" to a place with more beaches than extradition treaties. I very much doubt there is a real "Roman Novak" he's just a fictional character. They can't arrest him for the same reason the tooth fairy doesn't pay tax, because he doesn't exist. I'm sure there is a real person running all this, but the likes of Nanci Jo Frazer sure don't know who or where he is, they're the ones set up to take the fall.
    I'd also not be surprised that the same person isn't behind one or more other programs currently running, and maybe one will be the next big thing.
    The tooth fairy does not pay tax, that was laugh out loud funny.

    What amazes me, , is that I have not seen one person come out and say Roman will just show them that he has a huge portfolio of loans backed by collateral and insurance and that will be that! It is as if people set themselves up to be preyed upon over and over. Big Government Conspiracy's, server migration, Bible quotes, upgrades, downgrades, loop d loops. If these were children I would get it.

    If only I had no conscience, none of these stories have changed in hundreds of years of conning people, and yet folks continue to lighten their wallets on a dream of easy money.

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    Hmm, I am sure Hong Kong only wanted a piece of the game before Megaupload.com and Kim Dotcom was shutdown :)

    It’s game over for Kim Dotcom, the Mr Big of file-sharing


    And how "Roman" can continue his hard lending in US and at the same time be "out of this corrupt USA interference".

    Oh, yeah he will definitely bring up another site, will your accounts and money be there? :)
    In fact, did anyone say he doesn't run several at the time? (from what i saw he did run at least 2 at the time)
    Last edited by NikSam; 03-16-2013 at 11:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikSam View Post
    Hmm, I am sure Hong Kong only wanted a piece of the game before Megaupload.com and Kim Dotcom was shutdown :)

    It’s game over for Kim Dotcom, the Mr Big of file-sharing


    And how "Roman" can continue his hard lending in US and at the same time be "out of this corrupt USA interference".

    Oh, yeah he will definitely bring up another site, will your accounts and money be there? :)
    In fact, did anyone say he doesn't run several at the time? (from what i saw he did run at least 2 at the time)
    It won't matter if he is legal or not if he is in china with 'NO INTERNET LAWS'. He can put up the banner Eagleone posted and still operate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendaril View Post
    It won't matter if he is legal or not if he is in china with 'NO INTERNET LAWS'. He can put up the banner Eagleone posted and still operate.
    Than someone please hint "Roman" that financial fraud in china is punishable up to the death penalty :)

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    Do you know what they do to ponzi fraudsters in China ??/
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Good day guys,

    I've been a lurker of this site since last year. I am actually checking this site if the online opportunities that are being tagged to me on facebook are legitimate and real. Because upon doing my due diligence about JBP, I stumble upon this site and it actually opened my mind when it comes to these kind of investment schemes.

    I have a friend in facebook who has been a major player in these HYIP games and I don't know where to start or how to file a case with this person but he is actually earning big bucks and misleading his facebook friends on investing from JBP, ricanadfunds to Profitable Sunrise and as far as I know he actually posted a status that Roman Novak is actually meeting up with him.

    If you will check his facebook account here the asian guy is this person that I am talking about and the white guy is Roman Novak. I can't find the status on his facebook now, but prolly he already hid it, but I swear to god he did told that on his status.

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    To positivity and Gregg (some mails up), Roman Novak is not some snitch that sits down on his ass at the Seychelles looking down to his monitor seeing the money rolling in..like many in the past and probably in the future..what he is is a R E A L person, no fictional character..a bussinessman who travels around the world.
    Btw. positivity, i'll will ask someone who worked with him 20 years ago if this guy on the picture is the real Roman Novak..i don't now but i doubt it..there are many Roman Novaks as you know..I will update in about an hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by positivity View Post
    If you will check his facebook account here the asian guy is this person that I am talking about and the white guy is Roman Novak. I can't find the status on his facebook now, but prolly he already hid it, but I swear to god he did told that on his status.
    Hey Positivity, welcome to real scam.

    Couple of thoughts, recently I set up a "fake" facebook account to follow a favorite scam of mine. I loaded no pictures, no bio, nothing but a few IMs. I was shocked at the number of friend requests I received since I don't really exist. And the number of people who are willing to ask for "investment advice". I can only imagine if I spun a tale of riches.

    The second and this might or might not take a little doing, but there is something called a sweetheart scam, Basically they use someone's photo to pose as an interested lover and then spam dating sites. There are photo catalogs of many of these scammers on line. Lots of good looking pics too. Long story sort, it would be interesting if you could find pictures of either of the two people you posted anywhere else on the web. But my gut is that is not Roman Novak or your friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorz View Post
    To positivity and Gregg (some mails up), Roman Novak is not some snitch that sits down on his ass at the Seychelles looking down to his monitor seeing the money rolling in..like many in the past and probably in the future..what he is is a R E A L person, no fictional character..a bussinessman who travels around the world.
    Btw. positivity, i'll will ask someone who worked with him 20 years ago if this guy on the picture is the real Roman Novak..i don't now but i doubt it..there are many Roman Novaks as you know..I will update in about an hour.
    If this is the case, then Roman Novak will have no problem proving to law enforcement worldwide that he actually has a portfolio of loans, backed by collateral and insurance as he claimed. Case closed, we have all been wasting our time. Thank you for clearing this up, anyone for a game of D&D?

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    Hey Positivity, i'm back..a little faster then an hour :-) i showed the photo, and it looks like it's pretty positive that this is Roman..so i think you are right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    If this is the case, then Roman Novak will have no problem proving to law enforcement worldwide that he actually has a portfolio of loans, backed by collateral and insurance as he claimed. Case closed, we have all been wasting our time. Thank you for clearing this up, anyone for a game of D&D?
    Not that fast, than all commissions and financial institutions across the world will have to come in some kind of meetings and discuss it for
    several weeks , how to legalize the opportunity Novak discovered and provide some registered investment contracts or securities in which public can participate :)

    Or maybe give Novak status of Municipality or approved Corporation which can publicly offer super high yield bonds, which will be available on legal exchanges and remove the possibility of Roman running off with the money. But does he really want that possibility to be taken from him ? :)
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    To Colorz and positivity, Roman Novak doesn't even exist.
    Just a Name. Anyone who claims met him , talked to him, etc is either lying or talked to the actor, there are plenty you can hire online starting at $5.

    Also interesting how many PS participants remembered that now they know him somehow, or their parents know him, etc
    "Roman Novak yea i knew him, or wait, maybe that Fella was Roman Polak, anyway one of those polish fellas" :)

    But I am sure you will learn all the HYIP Admin tricks and see smoke and mirrors after you participate in several new blessed opportunities
    after this one.

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    Dear Niksam, go tell that to my mother who worked with him (in another branche)and another guy i know who live 5 minutes from me that they are lying..
    Can you tell me how she knewed that he has a brother that is a lawyer, just like he explained on his site..she knew all the details and believe it or not, she never comes on the internet..she is from the old story..so tell me Mr Niksam!

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