Thread: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

Having said this, PS is still a scam. You can't use one truth to obscure another, it's in bad taste.

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Nanci Jo Frazer - Undisputed Champion of Profitable Sunsise

Me thinks Nanci Jo Frazer is in BIG trouble when this goes bust. There is soooooo much evidence out there on the net about endorsement of PS. Also using a fake 501 c3 is pure deception. She should be putting aside funds for a lawyer cause she is going to need a lot of help.

Originally Posted by Finix

- sue the upline to become rich

Originally Posted by Former Player

Me thinks Nanci Jo Frazer is in BIG trouble when this goes bust.

It all depends on the willingness of her downline to make a public scandal out of their stupidity. Methinks they'd want to keep it hush hush.

I love it how the people at MMG are spamming payment receipts and avoiding clear evidence of PS not only being a scam, but something that is going to tumble really soon.

But who cares right? As long as I get my interest payment it's fine.

In their defense, the info coming from the sources they already mistrust a lot more than clear evidence of payouts isn't going to convince them PS is a scam.

Originally Posted by Finix

In their defense, the info coming from the sources they already mistrust a lot more than clear evidence of payouts isn't going to convince them PS is a scam.

Mistrust does not make untruth.

Feigned ignorance is not a defense.

They mistrust government agencies, so these warnings won't even register with them in the direction they would with the regular members of the public.

Interested in one thing - getting the word out so that no one else loses money. Yes I added, proud to do so.

Originally Posted by JamesParis

Interested in one thing - getting the word out so that no one else loses money. Yes I added, proud to do so.

How does a christian like yourself amass 2 million?

Publishing royalties, fees from managing a large portfolio of investments, speaking fees, life insurance and annuity commissions, advertisers from my radio and TV shows. Just because I am a Christian does not mean that I can't also make an honest living :)

I just called Nanci's office and there is no answer and no voicemail on her number... For those that don't think I am sincere about bringing her on the show tonight. I would love to hear her side of this, it would make the show so much more interesting.

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Hey James, can we just shoot you an e-mail that there is a slim possibility you will read?

I read all of my e mails. Jim@christianmoney.com If you have a question for the show I would prefer that you call it in yourself. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Fendaril

How does a christian like yourself amass 2 million?

Most questions can be answered by the observable behavior. It seems the answer is "by hijacking high profile topics to increase own popularity". It's not illegal. It's not even immoral. Jesus did it too, but not for money.

Originally Posted by JamesParis

Interested in one thing - getting the word out so that no one else loses money. Yes I added, proud to do so.

I dont have much of a problem of you passing along information. But what you seem to do is make a statement such as "wikipedia has now added Profitable sunrise to its scam page" knowing full well that you were the one that added it and with a link to your website nonetheless.
Did you also contact the Florida BBB to get them to make a report on them?
Did you contact Dave Ramsey to tell him his video was on a NJF Global website.
DId you contact CBN or the 700 club so you could come on and expose prosun?
Did you contact the Toledo news consumer reporter to try and get him to do a story?
Did you issue the press release?
We do know that you alerted CNBC, The Wall St. Journal, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, The Chicago Sun Times, and Fox Business News of this story.

You have been really busy.
This is self-serving because in each of these goes to promote you and your business

I hope you are not surprised if some people are upset with you. Because they have received on time payments for quite awhile. I'm not saying thats right or wrong but it is hard for me to swallow the martyr position you take when people express their anger at your actions.

Case in point the youtube video Profitable Sunrise - An Honest Profitable Sunrise Review and TESTIMONIAL - YouTube you posted a ways back expressing shock and sadness that people were still posting them.

Well I read the back and forth between you and the maker of the video. She asked you an appropriate question and was very nice to you.
Many people's lives have been changed for the better because of this program. Again, I'm not saying the program wrong or right. It's just facts.
Have you had e-mails pouring in from people who are complaining about not being paid?

Originally Posted by tcob

This is self-serving because in each of these goes to promote you and your business

What's your problem? Everyone is self-serving, at least he isn't stealing.

Originally Posted by tcob

Many people's lives have been changed for the better because of this program.

Then maybe they should participate in his radio show. He said he is open to other viewpoints. Nanci and Roman have too much to lose, but it would be useful for everyone to hear the real voices of the people whose lives were changed for the better because of the industry. It's tiring to hear only the heartbreaking stories of losses, especially when you know it's only one side of the coin.

Great idea, so people who will loose it all know where some of their money went.


tcob, you forgetting one thing, you call it Blessing or lives changed for the better, but in reality it is stealing, those who profited got the cut from the the fraud.

Yeah, when they hear it's places like Nigeria they might feel better, who knows.

They say God works in mysterious ways. It could one of them, for all we know, and PS is really there to teach people the true meaning of "it's more blessed to give than to receive".

Originally Posted by tcob

I dont have much of a problem of you passing along information. But what you seem to do is make a statement such as "wikipedia has now added Profitable sunrise to its scam page" knowing full well that you were the one that added it and with a link to your website nonetheless.
Did you also contact the Florida BBB to get them to make a report on them?
Did you contact Dave Ramsey to tell him his video was on a NJF Global website.
DId you contact CBN or the 700 club so you could come on and expose prosun?
Did you contact the Toledo news consumer reporter to try and get him to do a story?
Did you issue the press release?
We do know that you alerted CNBC, The Wall St. Journal, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, The Chicago Sun Times, and Fox Business News of this story.

You have been really busy.
This is self-serving because in each of these goes to promote you and your business

I hope you are not surprised if some people are upset with you. Because they have received on time payments for quite awhile. I'm not saying thats right or wrong but it is hard for me to swallow the martyr position you take when people express their anger at your actions.

Case in point the youtube video Profitable Sunrise - An Honest Profitable Sunrise Review and TESTIMONIAL - YouTube you posted a ways back expressing shock and sadness that people were still posting them.

Well I read the back and forth between you and the maker of the video. She asked you an appropriate question and was very nice to you.
Many people's lives have been changed for the better because of this program. Again, I'm not saying the program wrong or right. It's just facts.
Have you had e-mails pouring in from people who are complaining about not being paid?

As James has indicated, he has no use for extra money. He makes a decent income from a variety of other sources, this is just him being humane and educating people, is that so bad?

By your logic, Nanci doesn't need extra money either, so she must be doing this for humanitarian purposes as well. Yeah, right. To both.

Originally Posted by Finix

They say God works in mysterious ways. It could one of them, for all we know, and PS is really there to teach people the true meaning of "it's more blessed to give than to receive".

This is the most absurd and ignorant statement you have ever made. God does not condone stealing. He does not bless stealing. God abhors a lying tongue.

Next time I'll use a sarcasm smiley for your benefit. BTW, God abhors money, period. According to Jesus, James has as little chance of making it to the kingdom as Nanci does.

Originally Posted by Finix

Next time I'll use a sarcasm smiley for your benefit. BTW, God abhors money, period. According to Jesus, James has as little chance of making it to the kingdom as Nanci does.

But God is mysterious, how could you know this?