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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyEagleOne
    I should point out that I am not a financial planner
    Well, compared to a serial criminal playing ponzis, you are. I'm pretty sure you'll never ever have to worry about clawbacks -> now that is pretty sound financial planning.

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    Guess Rumsfield's comments were too much for Myriad Force to comprehend/understand. Well, not really. He is just ducking having to address them because he can't. If he did he would prove PS is a Ponzi. Can't have a Ponzi shill admitting his program is a Ponzi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Guess Rumsfield's comments were too much for Myriad Force to comprehend/understand. Well, not really. He is just ducking having to address them because he can't. If he did he would prove PS is a Ponzi. Can't have a Ponzi shill admitting his program is a Ponzi.
    No, I can't answer all the questions because I don't have all the answers yet; and I don't deperately provide parallels and extrapolations to make my case as you and your cohorts do.

    I realize your need in licking your wounds in not being able to provide Empirical Evidence that PS is a Ponzi. I have never said they were or were not, you don't like that type of elusiveness. Again, all you have done is made parallels with other companies, and then extrapolate. Your "evidence" would not hold up in a court of law.

    Come on, give us your best shot at providing any empirical evidence that PS is a Ponzi.

    Have you heard the latest news, Profitable Sunrise has not made any interest payments on Monday yet, and there has been no word yet as to what is going on.

    Hey, I know, let's extrapolate and create conclusions before we have any empirical evidence...
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    ProSun - Great reading and ALL the different opinions. Thx to all for the experience. I am a 20 year career veteran Kiwi soldier and I became fed up, sick and tired of our NZ Govt ignoring the cries of welfare, and our army super being manipulated as they wish. I count it a blessing that I found something that gave me hope. I have a strong passion in my choice of Faith AND further more I am INDEED happier in my new found venture. It is working for me and I advertise it far and wide as I can. Amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    From my understanding, Roman is usually on the road closing on loans, he has no need for commerical office space, nor do his associates.
    So let's get this right:
    On the road where?
    A multi million pound business that either doesn't have an office or has a base with one land line.
    A multi million pound business that customers can't find.
    A multi million pound business that can be run from a vehicle because the documentation required must be minimal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArthurWankspittle View Post
    So let's get this right:
    On the road where?
    A multi million pound business that either doesn't have an office or has a base with one land line.
    A multi million pound business that customers can't find.
    A multi million pound business that can be run from a vehicle because the documentation required must be minimal.
    Are you insinuating there is a dasterdly crime afoot? Must a company be Brick & Mortar for you to feel comfortable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    No, I can't answer all the questions because I don't have all the answers yet; and I don't deperately provide parallels and extrapolations to make my case as you and your cohorts do.

    I realize your need in licking your wounds in not being able to provide Empirical Evidence that PS is a Ponzi. I have never said they were or were not, you don't like that type of elusiveness. Again, all you have done is made parallels with other companies, and then extrapolate. Your "evidence" would not hold up in a court of law.

    Come on, give us your best shot at providing any empirical evidence that PS is a Ponzi.

    Have you heard the latest news, Profitable Sunrise has not made any interest payments on Monday yet, and there has been no word yet as to what is going on.

    Hey, I know, let's extrapolate and create conclusions before we have any empirical evidence...
    Licking my wounds? I'm still waiting for you to tell me how I threatened you, as you claimed.

    Just so you know, it is obvious when a program is a Ponzi because the pimps, shills and cheerleaders have to keep changing the subject so they don't have to answer any embarrassing questions. You know like you do every time you post here.

    Still on the empircal evidence I see. You are in for a very rude surprise, and you will get all the "empirical evidence" you have been so desperately looking for. Just your loveable "sadistic establishment bootlicker and Nazi snitch."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    Are you insinuating there is a dasterdly crime afoot?
    Considering that we are discussing a multi-million pound business that appears to lack the basic paperwork required in order to operate in the various countries in which it is operating, yes. That is not a matter of a Ponzi or not, but basic business sense.

    Furthermore, the loans being so cheerfully spoken of exceed the legal limits in the country being promoted within, something else that a company with a tolerable legal staff would have known long before entering said market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    Are you insinuating there is a dasterdly crime afoot? Must a company be Brick & Mortar for you to feel comfortable?
    Just answer two questions:
    On the road where?
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    Name a multi million pound business that has one landline.

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    I bet Myriad Force believes that PS was the first Ponzi to promote they charge excessive rates for their loans, cough, cough. He should go read PTVPartner's piece. It would put PS to shame as far as interest rates go, and guess what? It was a Ponzi. I'm sure it is just a coincidence.

    But you gotta love the Ponzi in the car angle. I bet he has an ATM in the back seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Licking my wounds? I'm still waiting for you to tell me how I threatened you, as you claimed.

    Just so you know, it is obvious when a program is a Ponzi because the pimps, shills and cheerleaders have to keep changing the subject so they don't have to answer any embarrassing questions. You know like you do every time you post here.

    Still on the empircal evidence I see. You are in for a very rude surprise, and you will get all the "empirical evidence" you have been so desperately looking for. Just your loveable "sadistic establishment bootlicker and Natzi snitch."
    Is one a shill, who asks for Empirical Evidence of a Ponzi? You continue to avoid the empirical evidence question. We are beating a dead horse here. Time will give us all more light.

    EO, I see you are a "Christian", are you an Eternal Damnationist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArthurWankspittle View Post
    Just answer two questions:
    On the road where?
    and
    Name a multi million pound business that has one landline.
    Actually he is in the US, but just claims they are based in the UK because they actually spent about $25 and registered the name. Of course FSA has not heard of them, nor the SEC, nor FINRA, but they have a loan license because Myriad Force has seen a screenshot of it. Real empirical evidence isn't it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    But you gotta love the Ponzi in the car angle. I bet he has an ATM in the back seat.
    I'm surprised at you Mr Eagle, he obviously has an RV fitted out like a bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    Is one a shill, who asks for Empirical Evidence of a Ponzi? You continue to avoid the empirical evidence question. EO, I see you are a "Christian", are you an Eternal Damnationist?
    And there you go trying to force the thread off-topic again.
    As was offered before, make a new thread to discuss religion and/or the music of Rush in the appropriate forum. Do not hijack existing ones.

    Are you truly as ignorant of the concepts of manners and etiquette as you behave, Ty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArthurWankspittle View Post
    I'm surprised at you Mr Eagle, he obviously has an RV fitted out like a bank.
    You are right. How silly of me. I'm blaming it on my having only had 4 hours sleep.

    Can you just see Roman in front of a judge claiming he didn't need an office as he worked out of his car running a multi-million dollar company. Now that I would pay to see!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins View Post
    And there you go trying to force the thread off-topic again.
    As was offered before, make a new thread to discuss religion and/or the music of Rush in the appropriate forum. Do not hijack existing ones.

    Are you truly as ignorant of the concepts of manners and etiquette as you behave, Ty?
    Yes, I guess a have a lack of curiosity as to the "concepts of manners and etiquette"what with there being none demonstrated by you or your cohorts. You attack those in programs that query you on Empirical Evidence, this is typical of the Adamic Nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    Yes, I guess a have a lack of curiosity as to the "concepts of manners and etiquette"what with there being none demonstrated by you or your cohorts. You attack those in programs that query you on Empirical Evidence, this is typical of the Adamic Nature.
    I am not EagleOne. Don't get the two of us confused with each other.

    As far as appropriate forums, try the Entertainment forum for musical discussion, and the General Comments & Chat forum for religious ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins View Post
    I am not EagleOne. Don't get the two of us confused with each other.

    As far as appropriate forums, try the Entertainment forum for musical discussion, and the General Comments & Chat forum for religious ones.
    Oh, I see that you are confused - assuming I did not know who posted, well, that's what you are good at.

    Meanwhile, back in Profitable Sunriseland, Nanci Jo Frazer's (former Miss North America and Mrs. Ohio) downline is doing well:

    $10,805,050.65 deposited by 19326 members as of 3:58 am CST.

    As I have stated, to provide you as much fodder as possible, Nanci is my main source of information for PS, she seems like a very nice and genuine lady. Here is YT video of her proclaiming her calling:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvaBMZjkZ0o
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    Myriad Force: Hmm, you keep demanding "empirical evidence" when you have no clue what in the world you are talking about. I'm sure it sounds impressive to you, but you see "empirical" means: 1. based on or acting on observation or experiment, not on theory; 2. P.hilos regarding sense-data as valid information; 3. deriving knowledge from experience alone.

    Since we have been acting on observation, and knowledge from our experiences, then we have provided you all the "empirical evidence" you have requested and need. Back to you.
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    Inter Reef Limited was dormant as of 09/30/2012. Business must have really ramped up from 10/01/2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    Meanwhile, back in Profitable Sunriseland, Nanci Jo Frazer's (former Miss North America and Mrs. Ohio) downline is doing well:

    $10,805,050.65 deposited by 19326 members as of 3:58 am CST.

    As I have stated, to provide you as much fodder as possible, Nanci is my main source of information for PS, she seems like a very nice and genuine lady.
    Do you get a lot of emails from Nigerian ministers?
    This is where Bernie Madoff went wrong, if only he'd been "Mr New York" he'd still be outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArthurWankspittle View Post
    Inter Reef Limited was dormant as of 09/30/2012. Business must have really ramped up from 10/01/2012.
    But, but, but, but they have been doing loans for six years. I know because they said so on their website, and we all know if it is on their Internet website it has to be true. They just recently started making their millions available to the masses by offering this fantastic business online, cough, cough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Myriad Force: Hmm, you keep demanding "empirical evidence" when you have no clue what in the world you are talking about. I'm sure it sounds impressive to you, but you see "empirical" means: 1. based on or acting on observation or experiment, not on theory; 2. P.hilos regarding sense-data as valid information; 3. deriving knowledge from experience alone.

    Since we have been acting on observation, and knowledge from our experiences, then we have provided you all the "empirical evidence" you have requested and need. Back to you.
    How fun, now you have to minimize or marginalize the definition of Empirical. You left off "verifiable or provable" of your defining Empirical.

    Here also is a definition of Extrapolate:
    ex·trap·o·late
    [ik stráppə làyt]
    1.infer: to use known facts as the starting point from which to draw inferences or conclusions about something unknown
    2.estimate value: to estimate a value that falls outside a range of known values, e.g. by extending a curve on a graph

    Let me spell it out for you - Because you cannot provide empirical evidence, you must extrapolate.

    The irony is, I am going to be helping you find Empirical Evidence either way, no one wants to lose money.
    I like the business model of PS and what I deposited will not take food off my kitchen table if it does not work out. If it does turn out to be a Ponzi, hopefully it will last a couple years, know what I mean? I am willing to play the game, risks make existence fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    But, but, but, but they have been doing loans for six years. I know because they said so on their website, and we all know if it is on their Internet website it has to be true. They just recently started making their millions available to the masses by offering this fantastic business online, cough, cough.
    Is that six years since Sept 2011?
    Date of Incorporation: 13/09/2011

    Country of Origin: United Kingdom
    Company Type: Private Limited Company
    Nature of Business (SIC):
    99999 - Dormant Company
    Accounting Reference Date: 30/09
    Last Accounts Made Up To: 30/09/2012 (DORMANT)
    Next Accounts Due: 30/06/2014
    Last Return Made Up To: 13/09/2012
    Next Return Due: 11/10/2013
    Those are English format dates, in case you were confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force
    I like the business model of PS and what I deposited will not take food off my kitchen table if it does not work out. If it does turn out to be a Ponzi, hopefully it will last a couple years, know what I mean? I am willing to play the game, risks make existence fun.
    I hope newbies to the world of HYIP ponzis are paying attention to what "superpimp" Myriad Force is saying here.

    Newbies who think they've stumbled upon a super secret way to make their fortune are about to get a very rude awakening when they realize their money is going to support the gambling habits of the Myriad Forces of the HYIP ponzi "industry"

    Is it any wonder we welcome HYIP ponzi shills and pimps here on REALSCAM.com

    Saves us hours of trying to explain to readers exactly how a HYIP ponzi works.

    Keep it up, Mr Force, keep it up.
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