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    Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by Char View Post
    Multi-level marketing is scamming. MLMer=Scammer. Therefore, why would anyone trust anything an admitted scammer/MLMer says?

    Imagine a con artist claiming heís a con artist, and then someone believing his spiel and giving him their money. Thatís crazy!

    The spiel is irrelevant to the goal of the con man getting the money. The spiel or product is merely a tool to execute the crime.

    MLM inherently defaults to pyramid scheming, and that is a crime. The tool or weapon (product) used doesnít change that.

    MLM-ing is not a product, it is pyramid scheming.

    Why is this so hard for people to grasp?!!!!!
    Yeah but greed and desperation are powerful emotions that keep pulling people in...!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    And the defections from OneLife continue with some major GLG leaders jumping ship.

    Dusan Torbica, who was the one who got Igro Krnic into OneCoin announced his leaving. Damien Barnes and Eka Sunaryo announced they were out. Kamonsirinut Tanyasup resigned, then one of the major GLG leaders and major promoter of OneCoin Peter Hjelte resigned. Sooula McCormick, Jesse Choi, and Arto Ylitalo followed suit and resigned.

    What do they all have in common, other than their blind devotion to OneCoin? They all met with Vesselina and learned what was really going on with OneCoin/OneLife. They learned that Konstantin had pled guilty and declared OneCoin was all a lie from day one. One of their biggest issues was Ruja not defending OneCoin/OneLife by remaining in hiding.

    Of course they all realized that they had put themselves into possible jeopardy of legal action if they stayed, so they got out. A few of them will be joining Vesselina in her new program called Invicta. Wonder what they will do if Vesselina gets arrested for her part in the OneCoin/OneLife Ponzi? Funny how none of them have thought of that possibility isn't it.

    As usual, those who refuse to believe OneCoin/OneLife was nothing but a Ponzi have attacked them for leaving. Even after they gave a full explanation as to why the left. All went to Sofia and talked to Vesselina and the family before making their decision. They based their reasoning on facts, not wishes and just believing. Cultism on full display for all to see, except them.
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    The OneLife GLG members leaving has picked up steam. More and more are leaving each day. They all see the handwriting on the wall except the die-hard believers. Immediately they have gone from heroes to zeroes and are now labeled "haters" their favorite term for anyone who dares say anything remotely negative about OC/OL. These aren't just your typical GLG members. They are blue diamonds and black diamonds that have left.

    You would think people would want to know what they know that they don't and figure out that things are not as Simon Le and King Jayms have led everyone to believe they are. It should also point out that none of them have any confidence in Simon Le or King Jayms' leadership because they know they are lying to the members. I see the defections picking up steam not slowing down as more and more become aware of the truth of what is going on with OneLife. At least 12 more have left in just under a week.

    What I found fascinating is that they are all saying exactly the same thing for why they left. Their swan song for leaving sounds more like they are talking to law enforcement than their followers as for why they are leaving. I guess they think it will resolve them from any action against them by the authorities. They are in for a rude surprise if law enforcement wants to go that far down the food chain to bring charges. They all could face criminal charges for their role in OC/OL. No doubt 2020 is going to be one very interesting year for OneLife, or what's left of it.

    Order your popcorn now, get plenty of liquid refreshment on hand and settle in your comfy arm chair and enjoy the show, for it is going to be a blockbuster show.
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    The OneCoin faithful always accuse us "haters" of making things up, taking things out of context, distorting facts, cutting and pasting content to make it what we want it to say not what was really said, you get the picture.

    Well, here's a video from the believer's and let's see how many contradictions and outright lies you can find: YouTube

    This would be even funnier if it wasn't so sad they actually believe this nonsense.
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    The Captains and Fred Fok did a webinar to kick off 2020. King Jayms promised the leaders would never lie to their members, and then proceeded to do just that. But then the believers don't know they are being lied to about the current status of OneLife. King Jayms is good at finding selective videos of Ruja talking but conveniently leaves out the videos that totally contradict the videos he does show.

    In the webinar all they do is mention that Konstantin was taken into custody by the US Authorities, but conveniently leave out that he pled guilty to the four charges against him. That he testified and provided states evidence in Mark Scott's money laundering trial for which Mark was found guilty. Can't have these inconvenient truths being told to the members. I have to admit that most of the presentation was comedic gold. Here's the link to the video: YouTube Just don't be drinking any liquid when watching on you could ruin a monitor and keyboard.
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    New Year's day saw another webinar from Fred Fok, King Jayms and Simon Le. The majority of the webinar was done by King Jayms, which basically said very little but he did reveal on interesting fact. He said, and I quote: If Simon and myself did not go to Sofia, Bulgaria, the company would have been closed. The mission that Habib had set out to do to crash the company would have been successful, leaving his option as the so called ‘only option’. But we spoiled those plans."

    So we have them to thank for OneLife to be able to continue to steal people's money a little while longer. I just love it when the crooks incriminate themselves on video for all to see and hear. Nothing like making the authorities case for them. But then Simon, Fred and King Jayms are not the brightest bulbs in the lamp.
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    Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    New Year's day saw another webinar from Fred Fok, King Jayms and Simon Le. The majority of the webinar was done by King Jayms, which basically said very little but he did reveal on interesting fact. He said, and I quote: If Simon and myself did not go to Sofia, Bulgaria, the company would have been closed. The mission that Habib had set out to do to crash the company would have been successful, leaving his option as the so called ‘only option’. But we spoiled those plans."

    So we have them to thank for OneLife to be able to continue to steal people's money a little while longer. I just love it when the crooks incriminate themselves on video for all to see and hear. Nothing like making the authorities case for them. But then Simon, Fred and King Jayms are not the brightest bulbs in the lamp.
    Probably need to stick a match in their ears...looks like their pilot lights are out!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam

    Well, the rose color is coming off the glasses for another GLG member and DS merchant. this was the swan song of Guy New from Australia, a major player there, and I quote:

    "To whom it may concern.

    I Guy New, GLG member from Adelaide, Australia joined OneLife in late 2017. As a significant DS Merchant in Australia (Ninja Property Solutions), being the first to provide House and Land packages in the belief that the much talked about Ecosystem be completed with an “exchange” so property sales could be facilitated. I have supported all three Expos in Australia as a Key Note Merchant and was organiser and host for regular weekly Dealshaker info/training nights and monthly Bazaars in Adelaide.

    OneLife to me was a wonderful opportunity for both business and personally. However in 2019 since the detainment of Konstintin, the failure of the NewDealshaker, the BBC podcast, dodgy cash dealings from various Diamonds, failure of the promised Exchange in September, then finally Konstintin testifying against OL/OC for the DOJ in the US, Plus division within the top leaders of OL, no support and no staff to manage the company etc etc.

    As a successful finder and promoter of Quality Merchants, I was being told by both new and old Merchants that OL/OC was no longer good for their business reputations as the “google world” was awash with TOXIC bad news. Even the local Australian Governing body “ASIC” warned against OL/OC.
    In understanding the overall success of OL/OC was solely dependent on new Merchants, new IMA’s and the DS platform and now realising the chance of success was rapidly diminishing. With a heavy heart I declare today that I Guy New relinquish my GLG status with OL/OC and will no longer represent, endorse or promote OL, OC, DS as an IMA or Merchant.

    Lastly to all the fantastic people I have meet in these past 2 years I wish you all well and declare that I am not a “HATER” that your leaders preach. If you are confused or unsure, I ask you all to look at all the facts and do your own due diligence, ask and get answers for the hard questions and please don’t get misled with the new proposed changes and by the WAH WAH and Evangelistic HOO HAR!

    Regards and Blessings to all Guy New"


    As usual the obligatory "I am not a hater" rhetoric in their swan songs. They are more afraid they will be branded a hater than for telling the truth, being branded a traitor and admitting OC was a Ponzi. But then that means he had to admit that all of us "haters" were right all along. They are all spineless wimps.

    His leaving is a tremendous blow to the Australian remaining merchants, especially those he brought into DS. Now it remains to be seen how many of them remain or leave like he has. Now the question is who's next to see the light and announce their leaving because we know there will be more.
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