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    The transcript of what transpired yesterday in court has not been released as it usually takes about 24-48 hours before the transcript is available to read.

    In the meantime Veselina Valkova (current OC/OL attorney and believed to be running OC/OL with Konstantin in jail) has purportedly made an announcement that his next trial date will be mid-July (17-19). This news was immediately used by one of the faithful to post this on Igor's blog and I quote:


    "- Guys, these haters are so stupid and so idiots that they can not figure out that they waste their time here spamming and slandering, they can not understand that DOJ and FBI need their stinky asses **** at miles to help them with wipes as evidence to incense konstantin and close OC.

    - These idiots don't realize that the process they hoped fast and stealthy is becoming a quagmire in which DOJ is patogating.

    - Some of them have understood that they are losing face like Dum and Eagl, who hid like rats in their sewers, but that their guru Tim will quickly summon and come back here after this msg.

    - When the news about the case ''Usa v Konstantin'' is not in their favor, they put it in mute and never speak as we noticed today and when news is in their favor, they bark like dogs in heat and run in all directions, they are psychiatric cases that require our pity, they are the funniest clowns I met at this day, let them stay here again until the 17th or 19th July, date of the next hearing."


    This was posted after most of us "haters" had posted about Konstantin not being released as they had predicted and was still sitting in jail as we had predicted. These people can't lie straight in bed.
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    One of my favorite posters on Igor's blog goes by the name detroyer. He never fails to entertain me and amaze me with is total ignorance he thinks is brilliant thinking, logic and factual information. He makes his opinions facts, posting of facts against OC are nothing more than mere opinion. This is one of his latest posts that demonstrate what I have just said about him to a "T." Here is the post he made, and I quote:

    "ok Eagl, I'll bring an update to my last post ''in black'' trying to satisfy your objection.
    if I understand correctly we have to give evidence that your spams are allegations and assumptions but are not proofs, LOL on topic I think we all agree that DOJ and the FBI are on the file to affirm or not your allegations what is not on track for you, now we know, Konstantin pleaded not guilty that's what you do not admit and you can not stand and you hope that konstantin pleads guilty, even if he pleads guilty to the ''Count one '', after negotiations he will get away with a fine, that's all.

    Tim mentioned the subject of the traitor Irina Andreeva Dilkinska, know that she was fired in October 2018 because she was paid to delay the exchange and put legal obstacles but at the end of October and after her dismissal Vaselina took the Exchange file in charge and she was able to do a good job until today.

    - Is it true, that Sebstian and Irina cooperate with DOJ and FBI ?? have evidence of what you are announcing and saving us from giving us, as ''founder2 and founder3'' or ''witness1, witness2 and witness3'' it's absurd as evidence as long as the DOJ didn't give their name and present them as a prosecution witness when the judge will open a lawsuit in the case of USA V Konstantin.

    - Haters and trolls spam for 5 years and produce allegations not based on a scam that only they have imagined and wished, the only feeling they have for OC members is to see them one day lose their money and they wish also the collapse of the company and its closure, their dream will become a nightmare at the opening of the OC's exchange, look at their behavior here and you will discover that it gives off a bad aura, they all have a reason to criticize OC, Tim, Eagl, Crypto because they are cryptography prsessionals and they were probably paid to spam 24/24 and 7/7, moon2 is afraid of the success of the project because she will have to explain to her cousin who lives in far-west, why she has prevented from becoming a member of the OC community and be able to one day quit his lost hole and leave his cows, to live in New York like everyone else, moon2 will have to flee his cousin if the OC project will succeed, Dum and other spammers also have their reasons to live with us the OC adventure, they are real clowns who will disappear like rats in their holes after the opening of the exchange.

    - Why are they here spamming, while the DOJ and the FBI are looking for proof against konstantin to fill their empty file. Even though DOJ and the FBI have clear evidence they can reinforce it with other facts??
    (No, they can't do it, because they have Nada, nothing, rien, niente, only allegations).

    - Why they do not file their evidence rag at the prosecutor's office to constitute a civil party against OC??
    (because they know they have only allegations and they risk a defamation lawsuit in several countries)

    - Why do they beg you to file your consolidated complaint against OC??
    (because they think you're stupid and they want it to be you who risk defamation, they do not want to take the risk)

    - Why moon2 did not file his complaint at the sheriff's office against the OC promoter of his county. instead of telling us fairy tales and saying that I got my cousin's money back before it was too late??
    '' LOL another clown here, who makes me laugh'', it's like saying, a thief stole my car, and I run to his home and I found my car in his garage and I asked him for the keys to my car, I was able to get my car back before it was too late. LOL to believe that she doesn't live in the USA but lives in the jungle with her cousin Tarzan Ohohohoooo.
    - Second theory that makes 2moon a criminal is:
    - If 2moon's cousin broke the US laws and participated in a ponzi scheme using the VPN and opened an offshor bank account to withdraw earnings from his scam as you said, that means 2moon's cousin is also a criminal and 2moon did not want to warn the county sheriff because she was afraid that her cousin would be declared an accomplice to an organized crime and imprisoned by DOJ, in which case 2moon is also a criminal for failing to report and reported his cousin and his upline and the whole organization to the authorities.

    - Do you believe that 2moon is clean enough to debate from OC and Konstantin's accusation here on this forum ?? me, I answer no because if she thinks that OC is a schema of ponzi and a fraud like the haters said, it makes her a criminal that must be banished, you know the quote that says "we can not order a criminal to fight crime "may be in the USA this is possible.

    - What do they think (OC's ennemies) of a government regulated exchange and fund remittance service and risk insurance by a central bank, which isn't the case for unregulated exchanges of decentralized cryptos??
    It risks ruining their business, which is not always legal and which is for the most part, not all, money laundering, tax leaks of trafficking of any kind and others).

    - Why do our members and OC only trust governments to conduct free and independent investigations??
    (Because the company has always said it and is willing to work with the government, as it does now with the government and central banks for licensing and opening the exchange and fund remittance service)

    - Why investigations of several European countries such as Sweden, Germarny, UK, Italia and others have found nothing illegal after months of investigations with the company and its partners, which would justify its closure and liquidation??
    (Because, no infringement of European laws has been found by these governments)

    - I can fill this forum evidence that these haters, you want to hurt, they want your bankruptcy, they are stupid mental patients without greed, and are opportunists but I like their side clown that makes me laugh a lot."


    Just one of the many things he got wrong is when he said that Irina Dilkinska, who was the head of OneCoin Ltd's Legal and Compliance Department. She was "outed" as Co-Conpsirator #3 in the Mark Scott case. What he got wrong is that she went MIA at about the same time as Ruja did back in the fall of 2017. She was not fired in 2018 as he claims. They both went into hiding just prior to the raid by the multi-national criminal investigation team in January 2018. I have no doubt they were tipped off something was up and fled.

    And as usual there were those who highly praised him for his wisdom, brilliant response to my and Moonmoon's posts with his overwhelming facts. Not kidding.

    To further illustrate the genius of detroyer, and to prove my points about him, here is his comment about the US Judicial System, and I quote:
    ""The American judicial system is the most corrupt and the most unfair of the systems…We are talking here about the bad American justice that currently judges our leader Konstantin wrongfully imprisoned by the imperialist mafia…"

    I told detroyer he needed to immediately contact Konstantin and tell him to fire his incompetent and inept attorney and become his legal defense attorney. Only he could get Konstantin set free since the US Authorities have nothing and are still searching for evidence so they can go to trial. So far all I've gotten is crickets. He seems to have gone MIA himself, but that is only temporary. He can't resist posting trying to discredit us "haters."

    In the meantime, no posting on Pacer as to what happened at the 6/6 hearing, which makes me think the record was sealed. The only word came from Veselina Valkova. Compliance, and I quote:


    "Dear all, unfortunately Konstantin`s case have been postponed until July 19th for further collection of evidence. We were looking forward for more details and positive outcome this time around but the court decided on a further delay. Please stay tuned."

    What made that announcement interesting is that Pacer does not contain any information on what happened at the 6/6 hearing. I am not saying his next hearing is set for July 19, there is just no information available to confirm it. OC is notorious for putting out "information" that "their" interpretation of what happened. By saying that more time is needed to gather more evidence is what fuels the believer's into thinking the DOJ has nothing and they are still digging for info to try Konstantin; and of course he is innocent of any wrongdoing.

    And the saga keeps on rolling along, Konstantin still sits in a jail cell in NYC, and Ruja is still in hiding and a fugitive from justice.
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    Konstantin's attorney has requested he be granted bail while awaiting trial. Part of his request for bail was accompanied by 27 letters of personal character support. A couple were missing that I thought should have been included. One was from his employer's where he was employed as a bouncer, and the other was from his sister, Ruja. Just think a letter from her telling how this is all one big mistake and how legal OneCoin is I am sure would convince the judge he is not a flight risk; even though she is in hiding and a fugitive from justice. I'm sure he will call her as a witness when this goes to trial (cough, cough).

    Of course none of character witnesses could ever see him doing what he has been charged with doing. After all the accolades, I am surprised he has not been given Sainthood by the church. One of my favorites was a friend of his, well let me let him tell it, and I quote in part:


    "I am keen on driving a little faster, especially on the highway, and which we were last summer to the seaside, we had this discussion that started from speed limits and ended with Konstantin firmly stating that all laws in general exist for a reason and we should all abide them, otherwise it would be chaos. This is why I also know Konstantin is not a flight risk...."

    II don't know about you, but that convinced me he is not a flight risk and should be out on bail.

    The conditions that his attorney has set for his receiving bail are:


    Self-armed Security Guards stationed with the defendant 24 hours per day at a residence to be rented by him in the Southern District of New York;

    A $20M personal recognizance bond signed by five financially responsible individuals, secured by a $1.5M in equity from the properties belonging to friends in the United States, and $8.5M in cash;

    Strict pretrial supervision;

    GPS location monitoring;

    Home incarceration with only visitors pre-authorized by the government permitted inside;

    No contact between Mr. Ignatov and his co-defendants outside the presence of counsel;

    No contact between Mr. Ignatov and any known victims or witnesses;

    No use of the Internet;

    No involvement with OneCoin business or contact with OneCoin employees;

    Surrender of Mr. Ignatov's passport and any other travel documents with no renewals;

    No use of cellular telephones by the defendant, and computer use restricted to the review of discovery and note taking for his defense; and

    Permission for the government to search the defendant's residence and to tap his telephone to ensure compliance with the conditions of his release at any time.


    In case anyone wants to read this request for his being released on bail, you can read the entire document here: Case 1 17 Cr 00630 ER Doc 87 Ignatov Request for bail pending trial | Written Communication | Computer File Formats

    Since he is going to be paying for all of his expenses and security detail, I think the court will allow him bail. I think the government will have a couple of other stipulations they will request, and if acceptable agree to his receiving bail. One thing I think the government might object to is to allow is for his pregnant girlfriend to stay with him in New York while awaiting trial; especially if she is allowed to come and go unescorted.

    It is going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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    A $20M personal recognizance bond signed by five financially responsible individuals, secured by a $1.5M in equity from the properties belonging to friends in the United States, and $8.5M in cash
    Since he is going to be paying for all of his expenses and security detail, I think the court will allow him bail.
    I don't have time to read it right now but there is absolutely nothing that says he has anything invested in what you posted. it's all other people. he's jammed up because of what he did to other people.
    Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.

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    It will be interesting to see how the government responds to this request, but they may be in a bind since the same court approved Bernie Madoff bail in his case.
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    Madoff is a US resident with ties to the community, Ignatov is neither a US resident, nor does he have ties and fulfills all of the requirements for being a flight risk
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    The last 53 pages of the 71-page request for bail prepared by Jeffrey Lichtman's law office are occupied by 22 exhibits, each of which are impassioned letters from friends, family and associates of Konstantin Ignatov extolling the virtues of his character. One of these luminaries is Kristina Gouneva, who claims to be knocked up by Konstantin and describes him as:

    "such kind and sensitive person does not deserve to spend even a day in such place, where I can assure you, he does not belong. Konstantin is not a criminal, he is honest and honorable man, always helping and giving. Konstantin is a very proud and moral person"

    I hope the judge understands two things:

    1. These people are gypsies.
    Money (regardless of how it is acquired) is the only thing that matters to them.
    They will do anything to get it and will lie out of their a** to keep it.

    2. Out of an estimated $3.7 BILLION that flowed from victims to the Ignatovs, approximately $3.3 billion is unaccounted for.

    In the first six months of 2019, over 500,000 people (mostly desperately poor) have illegally crossed the southern border of the United States. The $8.5 million cash offered to assure Konstantin's appearance in court (coupled with $1.5 million of security represented by real estate owned by "friends") is pocket change to crooks who are sitting on hundreds of millions of dollars of stolen money. The court should seriously consider Ignatov's sister's success at eluding prosecution when she chose to go into hiding in October 2017 after learning of an international investigation of Onecoin through corrupt officials in Bulgaria.

    Access to unlimited stolen money affords Konstantin means and opportunity to cross the border, be picked up at his choice of remote airfields and disappear as effectively as Ruja Ignatova has.

    No passport needed.

    SD

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    Think about this for a moment. Let's assume he is granted bail on the terms set forth. He jumps bail and flees the country. All the US people who pledged their property for the $1.5 Million forfeit their property. This could be an added blessing in disguise with them being screwed by their great friend who would never do anything like he has been charged BS they spout. It also proves to all the believer's OC is the Ponzi we have all said it is and he is a crook. No trial needed. Two birds with one stone.
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    Konstantin's bond hearing was scheduled for the 25th but his attorney asked until Friday for more time to review the government's response to his bail bond request. I don't see the Feds letting his girlfriend live with him while awaiting trial as he had requested. I am sure there were other things the government objected to as well, but won't know until the judge rules on Friday, or if there is another continuance. And the drama continues on Igor's forum. Seems the believers don't deem us haters as worthy to debate but claim we are illegitimate haters/debaters and therefore do not warrant a debate. They are just too funny for words.
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    The government filed their response to Konstantin's request for bail until trial. Basically they said no bail, too much of a flight risk and danger to the community. You can read their entire response here:

    S.D.N.Y. 1 17 Cr 00630 ER 90 0 GovernmentResponseTo BailRequest Ignatov | Bail | Burden Of Proof (Law)
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    The government filed their response to Konstantin's request for bail until trial. Basically they said no bail, too much of a flight risk and danger to the community. You can read their entire response here:

    S.D.N.Y. 1 17 Cr 00630 ER 90 0 GovernmentResponseTo BailRequest Ignatov | Bail | Burden Of Proof (Law)
    The response seems to imply that the only way this guy could be more of a danger is if he had access to WMD's or handguns!!!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Konstantin's request for bail was denied. More on this story to follow soon.
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    Here is the reply to the governments response to Konstantin being granted bail by his attorney. It is evident that Jeffrey is grasping at straws and he knows it with this filing:

    https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/...16497.91.0.pdf

    I especially loved how they tried to downplay Konstantin's role in OC after Ruja went into hiding. And after all this, the judge still denied bail. Not a lot of happy campers in OC Land right now.

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    Despite all the irrelevant waffle coming from Igor Krnic and his bunch of OneCoin apologists, reality tells us that once one member of the EU takes action against OneCoin, it won't be long before every other member does likewise.

    Italys' Guardia de Finanza has acted (Google translated)



    You can read the original article here at: GDF.gov.it
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    An interesting line from the article I had overlooked:

    "The fraud mechanism belonged to the aforementioned Italian company and to two other foreign companies, to which Italian promoters referred. Three of them were stopped by the Financiers at the Orio al Serio Airport (BG) while they carried well 117,840 Euros, the result of the sale of training packages and "OneCoin coin"

    Given the fact a OneCoin event in Verona has just concluded, it is not unreasonable to conclude those arrested were likely to be include some of the OneCoin insiders in attendance such as
    Simon Le and Habib Zahid
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    Since this announcement was made by the Italian law enforcement there had been a lost of speculation that Simon Le and Habib Zahid were 2 of those arrested. There has been no statement by the Italian authorities who were arrested. To add further to the confusion, people have posted saying that Simon Le and Habib Zahid are posting on their FB pages. It is also possible that whoever was arrested were released but without the money they were carrying.

    It would have been nice if Simon Le and Habib Zahid were 2 of the 3 arrested and were still in custody. It would scare off all the other planned seminars and their promoters from holding their events thinking they might be next.

    Needless to say it has the members of OC up in arms as to what is going on and as usual Corporate is MIA with any kind of statement about the Italian law enforcement action. They did issue this statement, but again it was not "officially" from company website, but posted on an IMA FB page and anonymous:


    "Onelife Partners have the following in mind to correctly communicate the project.
    1. It is not OneCoin the CIA that distributes educational products is OneLife
    2. OneLife does not receive investments, it does not pay interest returns in any aspect.
    3. OneLife distributes online educational packages and gives away tokens that can be used to mine Cryptocurrency ONE (commercial name), mining is voluntary.
    4. Never ever mention the word investment because that is illegal, we distribute financial education.
    5. We do not sell Cryptocurrency, we mine according to a digital process called MINING, which in our case is of a centralized nature with a closed code to safeguard the security and stability of the Cryptocurrency.
    6. Do not speak of return of capital at a certain time, that is not legal or correct, the value of the Cryptocurrency ONE depends on Supply and Demand as well as its economic value (means of payment).
    7. OneCoin is the Fintech Company holding the cryptocurrency.
    8. The ONE Cryptocurrency is NOT pre-mined (pre-mined to market it).
    9. The only official corporate pages of the Holding are:
    w.w.w.onecoin.eu
    w.w.w.onelife.eu
    w.w.w.dealshaker.eu
    w.w.w.oneacademy.eu
    w.w.w.oneforex.eu
    w.w.w.oneworldfoundation.eu
    10. It is totally forbidden to sell Cryptocurrencies without the authorization of the Corporate only official information medium, if you do so you will lose your Cryptocurrencies and you may even be sued for affecting the Institutional image.
    If you see that someone is doing it irregularly, report it to the Compliance department.
    11. Any irregularity that you see from community personnel that are affecting or want to affect the image of the Company, denounce it to the Compliance Department, we take care of our Company of bad individuals.
    12. Any information you hear, you receive in writing, to be valid must come only from the Corporate, no other channel is valid unless you have the corresponding backups to issue information.
    13. Remember that we are the custodians of our access keys to the virtual wallet, do not deliver anyone to anyone, be forewarned.
    14. Discard rumors, negative information from media such as haters’ blogs that seek to affect the Institutional image.
    It is our duty to take care of the image of OneLife and the Holding, let us work with responsibility, professionalism and contribute to the solid growth of our Company that is changing our quality of life forever.
    OneLife together for more"


    Interesting isn't it how the company is never responsible for anything but it is always the rogue IMA's who are at fault or broke the law.
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    In the more than 15 years that I have been involved in exposing scams/Ponzi's in all their forms of cyber-crime, I have had a ton of accusations made about me and Eagle. Rarely do I come across someone who comes up with something original, but finally a poster on Igor's OC blog managed to come up with the absolute best accusations in an attempt to discredit me and Eagle. Here is what detroyer posted, and I quote:

    "EagleOne wrote: ↑
    Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:07 am

    I do deny it because I don't make any money investigating online scams. Sorry to burst your bubble. But come on and prove me wrong. You keep hinting that you can, so put up or shut up.

    Our nonprofit receives donations from supporters for all the seminars and speaking engagements I do to educate the public so they don't become a victim, but if they do, what actions they need to take to get as much money back as possible, and protect their identity from theft.
    - Eagl .... I was certain that you and your troll friends didn't attack the OC project just to help people, but to hope to make a lot of money by converting weak members into OC victims.

    - It's the smartest scam I've heard so far, Eagl and his Gang have created a non-profit association (Crook Club), not to be taxed by governments (income taxes They're not paid but receive donations from the victims. how do they receive donations from victims who have already lost a lot of money in a scam ?? it is there, that I find them clever and devilish !!!!

    - Phase 1: Eagl and his gang trolls are targeting a strat-up being created, like OC, they are looking for loopholes and weak points, (like MLM's Onelife).

    - Phase 2: Once the flaws are found, they begin their destabilization work by attacking the start up with scam allegations and assumptions.

    - Phase 3: Create victims group on tweet, instagram forums or on a forum like Igor's onecoindebate to propagate their propaganda and brainwashing to encourage weak and abandoned members to join their groups. (on this forum, Tim has begged members to join the twitter group of scam victims)

    - Phase 4: Organize in-person seminars and explain the steps to take to get up to 2x (the amount of money they have invested) I remind you, that in the case of OC this isn't an investment, it's a purchase of packages.

    - Phase 5: Agreement on the terms of a moral contract and the terms of remuneration in the case of Eagl and his gang the remunerations will be paid to their bank account in the name of the association and in the form of a donation.

    - Phase 6: Order the members of the group to introduction a consolidated complaints in European and US courts, through the lawyer and probably the owner of their association to master the case from the beginning to the end. (we were witness on this forum, how the trolls begged you to convince you to introduce a collective complaint and send it to the SDNY)

    - Phase 7: In the case of lawsuits won by the victims, recruited by Eagl and his gang, some victims will be able to recover the money invested and a large sum of money will be recovered also by way of damage and interest by presenting false documents (work stoppage, sale of house, medical certificate, divorce certificate ......)

    - Phase 8: Payment and transfer of the consultation and legal assistance fees to the Eagl's bank account and his gang with money laundering for tax evasion by calling it a Donation, because their non-profit association doesn't have US athorization and approval to practice a lucrative activity as does a lawyer's office and in this legal form, they will pay a lot of tax

    - Now I don't have proof of what I'm saying, but it's a guess that I can develop by looking for evidence from OC members that you could not convince about your twitter group and who contacted me and informed me that Tim and some of your trolls tried to manipulate them to file a complaint against OC and assured them of making money after that.
    but your testimony clearly indicates that your remunerations are turned into donations to escape the taxe services."


    What was so funny about his post was he went through his litany of things Eagle is guilty of, and then towards the end says he can't prove any of it; and then concludes with a statement of fact that he admitted he could not prove.
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    The guy gets an A+ for imagination but loses points for not starting his fairy tale with something along the lines of "Once upon a time in a land far away"

    He loses more for not ending his fiction with a closing with the traditional "And they all lived happily ever after" though

    Perhaps a pic of a broke and lonely scam victim riding off into the sunset on his horse named "denial" might work.
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    Well the reason for Konstantin's arrest and taken into custody is not because he was charged with 1 count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud as announced by the DOJ. How do I know this? Why SwissAndrew gave the real reason why, and here's what he had to say, and I quote:

    "he is accused of destabilizing the new york financial system 2) the potential success of OC, this is the true reason for his arrest, but since this is not actually an indictable offence, the rest of the charges are just crap to give the arrest a veneer of legitimacy."

    This was to support the claim, and I quote: "The American judicial system is the most corrupt and the most unfair of the systems…We are talking here about the bad American justice that currently judges our leader Konstantin wrongfully imprisoned by the imperialist mafia…"

    SwissAndrew just claimed that he knows what the DOJ really was doing, thinking and acting. I guess he has psychic and clairvoyant abilities that have been heretofore unknown but now revealed. Yeah right. Well he is psychic, I'll give him that.

    Now what is even funnier is that the DOJ did not say that Konstantin was accused of destabilizing the New York financial system. They said, "OneCoin was compromising the integrity of the New York financial system."

    As usual the "believers" never let a good lie get in the way of the truth. They now know this is serious and they are going out of their way to deflect, twist, take out of context and outright lie about what is happening. What is ironic what they are doing is exactly what they claim us "haters" do all the time.

    When this goes down, and it is going down, they have now laid the mantra that Konstantin and all the others in custody right now and facing trial could not get a fair trial due to the corruption of the US Justice imperialist mafia. And of course the obligatory OC was a threat to all the banks and other crypto-currencies that it had to be stopped. Nothing like telegraphing what your excuse will be before it happens.
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    No matter what happens in court, in five years time he and the other OneCoin supporters will STILL be posting their nonsense, STILL proclaiming Konstantin and Rujas' innocence and STILL predicting OneCoin to be the future.of commerce.

    You've been around long enough, Lynn, to know these sad little creatures will never allow themselves to lose face by admitting they have been wrong all along.

    There'll always be another fairytale explanation, another fantasy outcome and another prediction, even when the Ignatovas' have been gaoled and OneCoin has disappeared into the ether.

    They'll STILL be in their pyjamas in their bedroom, pounding out childish insults on their borrowed laptops, dreaming of the endless riches coming their way.





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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    No matter what happens in court, in five years time he and the other OneCoin supporters will STILL be posting their nonsense, STILL proclaiming Konstantin and Rujas' innocence and STILL predicting OneCoin to be the future.of commerce.

    You've been around long enough, Lynn, to know these sad little creatures will never allow themselves to lose face by admitting they have been wrong all along.

    There'll always be another fairytale explanation, another fantasy outcome and another prediction, even when the Ignatovas' have been gaoled and OneCoin has disappeared into the ether.

    They'll STILL be in their pyjamas in their bedroom, pounding out childish insults on their borrowed laptops, dreaming of the endless riches coming their way.





    You are right and of course "I" do, as do others who have been exposing the thinking of these Ponzi pimps and their followers.

    I wanted the new posters and visitors here to learn how this is done so they don't fall victim to their lies and be fooled into thinking these statements are valid and true. The more our visitors and new posters see and learn the tactics these players use, they won't become a victim.
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    HeHe, I know that you know.

    The objective of my post is the same as yours - so that readers get a sense of how things work when dealing with professional fraudsters disguised as "true believers"
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    PIPS is going to resume payments any day now!

  40. LMAO EagleOne LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    PIPS is going to resume payments any day now!
    Yep! Right after P2P, Ad Surf Daily, and Traffic Monsoon!!!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    Yep! Right after P2P, Ad Surf Daily, and Traffic Monsoon!!!
    And let's not forget Profitable Sunrise, Banners Brokers, LikesXL, Hourly Revenue Share, Traffic Hurricane, Club Asteria, MyBinaryProfits (our own Steve Lawson), and of course it goes without saying every Ponzi Ken Russo and Faith Sloan pimped. This list would be 3 pages long if we named them all just for those 2.
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