Thread: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

why are they going back to 'work' with all this alleged passive income? thought maps practically ran itself.

Originally Posted by Whip

why are they going back to 'work' with all this alleged passive income? thought maps practically ran itself.

Ooooh, Whip, no!

There's a blog to write for a start.....communications to be made about the latest (and future) developments in MAPs......meetings in Blackburn to be held......payments and withdrawals to sort out.........they'll have to phone or Skype Mike now and then to tell him how things are going......not forgetting they have to visit pages just like these so they can address the comments made, put us all right when we are going wrong......don't forget they have to argue with "negative bloggers" like that Tara Talks woman......we just don't appreciate it, it's all work, work, work!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

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And don't forget the BMW sucker lure he used before the Porche.

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Here's the latest trial balloon that is being floated over at MMG to see how the members respond from MAPS:

MAPs Update

"MAP is moving into a so-called 'phase two' of our existence. This phase includes bringing advertising services to non-members and also to websites outside the MAP network. We are in the planning stages of introducing advertising products that are displayed outside of MAP, and also giving website owners a way to capitalize on our ever-growing membership base and their own followership by giving them a way to sell ad-space on their own sites, through MAP!

All current members will be noticing a new log-in survey soon on MAP. This new feature will ask you one question when you login. We create the question based on product ideas, interest in advertisers products, etc. while the results are compiled in our back office. This is HUGE! There are a number of advantages with this;

• Members help decide our future
• We get a site-wide opinion from all of our members
• We can solicit corporate advertisers with real data on our members' likes, interests, habit's, etc.

This is invaluable data! The survey tool is being built right now and should be available next week sometime. In the beginning, the heads of MAP will use it exclusively to help determine our direction with product development. But soon after, we will open this service for data collection for corporate-level advertisers. Who wouldn't want to have their ad displayed MILLIONS of times monthly?!? That's what MAP now has to offer!

We wouldn't be here without the continued support of our loyal membership. We thank you and appreciate your trust. MyAdvertisingPays is moving in the direction of success, for everyone!"

Have to do something to keep the signups trucking along. This must be closer to collapsing than originally thought for this to be trotted out now. What is sad is there will be members who will really believe this will happen.

This phase includes bringing advertising services to non-members and also to websites outside the MAP network.

but that's what it had to be all along to be legal and not the ponzi that it is..

All current members will be noticing a new log-in survey soon on MAP. This new feature will ask you one question when you login. We create the question based on product ideas, interest in advertisers products, etc. while the results are compiled in our back office. This is HUGE! There are a number of advantages with this;

Any guesses what the "one question" will be?

"Do you want to be paid?"
"Do you want MAPS to continue or shut up shop?"
"Is Mike Deese a genius?"
"Aren't all your team leaders marvellous?"

Originally Posted by Simon "I lied to everyone" Stepsys

Already he has corporations interested in advertising
waiting in the wings for the membership to hit a certain
threshold of 5000+ which will happen fast. (Over 63,000 members already)

This was Simon's promo spiel circa Feb 2014, we can safely assume the advertisers never existed? Hmmm, I wonder if anyone will notice?

Originally Posted by EagleOne

"MAP is moving into a so-called 'phase two' of our existence. This phase includes bringing advertising services to non-members and also to websites outside the MAP network.

Just WOW. Maybe they should link up with the http://www.realscam.com/f8/bit-billi...ions-com-2083/ $9 ad network.

Sounds like getting the affiliates motivated to bring in new cash for more TBD scam stuff while a massive server upgrade takes the website down for a few days is the only hope for this sinking ship.

we see how long the wheel of torture lasted.

Clarie Hartman James who admits to being broke just a year ago, has been involved in 3 Ponzis in this thread alone, coming to a town near you. If she can't spot a scam, how would she know if MAPS is legit?

SCAMMER Claire.positiveminds@gmail.com
SCAMMER Skype Clairearbonne


Seems to love the idea of wiring money to a mail drop in Panama, what could go wrong?
Buying credit packs is pretty simple, I prefer VX Gateway as an account is automatically set up for you, just agree to terms and conditions and make sure your credit or debit card name is the same as profile name.

Just got the Eurostar to Paris, fantastic easy journey and fab service as we upgraded to premium. Not only am I in Paris, I'm off to Barcelona, Portugal and Menorca all before the end of June, Something we may not of done only a short year ago...

Why?

Because we were broke, not poor that's a mindset choice and not so temporary. More stretched to the limit just about Keeping our heads above water.

Google seems to have quite the sense of humor.

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Google Maps hides an image of the Android robot pissing on Apple | Technology | The Guardian

No Grandma, first you pay us, then we tell you to roll over your profits, then we tell you to recruit others, then you tell them to roll over their profits, then you tell them to recruit others. A SCAM you ask?

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Not only am I in Paris, I'm off to Barcelona, Portugal and Menorca

you may be misunderstanding what's written almighty ribalaya. Those are the names of her rooms in her apartment.

that's a mindset choice

no, it's more scammer bullshit. you are broke (and poor) from playing scams because you are not intelligent (or are intelligent enough to know it's a scam and need to rip people off). Some people only rise to a certain intelligence level. It's not a 'choice'. It's all the mental capacity some will ever have, unfortunately, and people like you take advantage of it. 'Intelligent' may not be the right word I'm looking for but one gets the picture.

I've been having a little fun over at Vimeo for a few months now, Flagging MAP Ponzi Pimping Videos & having some success, I have had over 100 MAPS videos removed. Including Simon Stepsys' own.
Vimeo are quite quick to remove them, a lot quicker than YouTube. (probably down to the sheer volume of YouTube Videos)

It's a little like playing Whack-a-mole, and as you can imagine it angers some the Mappers, especially this guy.
Bruce Frazer (the scammer on the left) here giving Simon a hand with his giant pretendy check.
Bruce obviously learned all he knows about pointing from the master himself.
His three year old account full of scam videos was removed by Vimeo so he created another one today just so we could have a chat.

It looks as though he is going to sue my ass.
Good luck with that Brucie Boy!

Bruce might just be in a bad mood though 'cos he was also a heavy promoter of uFun. Poor guy.

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Anyways here is the message he sent and my reply.

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lol. the wacky 'real name' excuse

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Bruce might just be in a bad mood though 'cos he was also a heavy promoter of uFun. Poor guy.

Why not UFUN was listed on the NASDAQ, how did Bruce know, he asked some poster promoting it on the interweb.

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But But But who could have seen it coming, spotted the lie, avoided the risk???? http://www.realscam.com/f9/lets-have...836/#post82467

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

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Rumor has it they are adding his face to the new MAPS Bucks.

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Butt hurt Bruce Frazer got back to me...

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Dear "Small Angry Person" - just love the very final exchange in the above posting!

"I have been on Vimeo for over 3 years with no issues.

You got one now buddy:)"

Classic!!

so, since he brought it up, where are his forensic audits of maps that he is using to call it legit? why wouldn't that be the first thing thrown out there to prove Joe is wrong?

Originally Posted by Whip

so, since he brought it up, where are his forensic audits of maps that he is using to call it legit? why wouldn't that be the first thing thrown out there to prove Joe is wrong?

Ah, remember when David Hooker (I think it was him) promised to reveal full accounts for Banners Broker? Don't think they ever appeared though. We didn't even hear who the accountants were.

I know no-one has promised the same for MAPs yet, but speaking of accounts, take a look at this. These are publicly available. Perhaps someone who understands accountancy can explain them?

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Do they look like the accounts of an "internet millionaire" to you? They seem to be missing a few 000's from the end. One can only wonder how he bought the Bentley; presumably from his own funds as opposed to it being a company vehicle.

Satish Lad
Yesterday at 12:46pm
I've been in My advertising Pays for over a year and built a large team of over 40 people. Every person is earning, withdrawing without a problem, and totally happy. The support is excellent and withdrawals are quick. It's the best online business I've ever been in, and all my team have the same opinion. Comparing MAP to other programs is very unfair and not intelligent. I've read a lot of your comments on this FB group and it seems most of you haven't even tried it, so how can you slate something you haven't even tried. My MAP business is very much in profit and I withdraw money every week without a problem. It's not a get rich quick scheme but a an honest business one can build over time. It's like any other business, if you operate it correctly it works. I've met hundreds of people in MAP who are having tremendous success. I've got a strange feeling my post will be removed - Perhaps the truth is not what you all want to hear! MAP is a success story among all the programs that have failed. Give it the time and respect it deserves.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/My-Ad...492200?fref=nf

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Tara asked this guy a good question, how much money has is team of 40 put in this scheme and how much have they taken out? All these people essentially say the same thing, claim to have read the blogs, and then fail to address any concerns.

Every person is earning, withdrawing without a problem, and totally happyThe support is excellent and withdrawals are quick

Of course you can take money out initially this is the ONLY way to build confidence that this is not a scam. When recruits dry up, so will those speedy withdrawals.

It's the best online business I've ever been in, and all my team have the same opinion.

"Best online business", we heard that with every other scam including Zeek and Banners Broker, see how BEST it is when recruits dry up.

Comparing MAP to other programs is very unfair and not intelligent.

Life isn't fair. As for intelligent, it is the ONLY intelligent thing a business person would do. 2015 years and not one example of endless chain recruiting ending any differently.

you haven't even tried it, so how can you slate something you haven't even tried.

The answer this question keeps coming back to a time tested question, why does Deese need people to put money in before they can be paid?

A great example of this in practice would be IPOs hitting the stock market. Why do the owners need your money, and what are returns generally like after they get it? Who gets the good ones to sell on the first day pop and who can get as much as they want of the crappy ones that will never trade above their opening price? As a bull market roars on, more and more crap comes to market and is dumped on the public, always.

No bank, no private investor, no hedge funds, no private equity firm, no venture capital, no angel investor wants to put money into My Advertising Pays. The only people even remotely interested are folks that get all giddy watching Simon bounce around on stage. The only people promoting MAPS have a demonstrated history of failed scams, and can't demonstrate a single similar success.

Don't be a MAPS Patsy, asking why they need your money ALWAYS the right question, no trial needed.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Ah, remember when David Hooker (I think it was him) promised to reveal full accounts for Banners Broker? Don't think they ever appeared though. We didn't even hear who the accountants were.

I know no-one has promised the same for MAPs yet, but speaking of accounts, take a look at this. These are publicly available. Perhaps someone who understands accountancy can explain them?

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Do they look like the accounts of an "internet millionaire" to you? They seem to be missing a few 000's from the end. One can only wonder how he bought the Bentley; presumably from his own funds as opposed to it being a company vehicle.

first, one would have to believe he is finally not lying. lol I believe Joe pointed it out, he's just using road tests of for sale vehicles for pics .

you haven't even tried it, so how can you slate something you haven't even tried.

when will he be jumping off the Empire State building to prove to us it doesn't hurt? I mean, all of humanity can't be wrong can they?

Over on Our Tone's little blog, we have this, entiteld an "exciting update"!

We are also planning stages of introducing advertising products that are displayed outside of MAP, and also giving website owners a way to capitalize on our ever-growing membership base and their own follower-ship by giving them a way to sell ad-space on their own sites, through MAP!

Once these additions are fully tested we will then be opening this up to our external corporate advertisers. Our current external advertisers have great success this far without these extra additions so you can only imagine where we are heading next.

Michael Deese is humbled and delighted with our members and the massive efforts they have put in over the last year to built MAP up to become such a power house in the world of online advertising. We had several long meetings at his office and were blown away by some of the exceptional ingenious efforts some of our members and leaders have put into their MAP business.

Our German leaders who came over to meet us in the states demonstrate an incredible professional approach to the market, that will push us forward to become a World Class advertising platform that the world will be envious of. It is ridiculous that such a young company has come so far so soon and that people are talking about world domination for My Advertising Pays. This is all down to you people our members who have helped us to be Tomorrows Advertising here today !

OK, so MAPs is a world dominant advertising platform, is it? There are currently external advertisers and there are corporate advertisers waiting in the wings, right?

Name them.

C'mon, Our Tone, who are they then? And when, just when, are they coming on board to advertise in a closed loop that only Mappers ever see? Even if you do open it out so others can see into it (and I bet you don't, the phrase "laughing stock" comes to mind), do you really think you can take on Google when your own pictures show that your CEO doesn't have a computer or a telephone on his desk?

As Ribshaw says above: No bank, no private investor, no hedge funds, no private equity firm, no venture capital, no angel investor wants to put money into My Advertising Pays. The only people even remotely interested are folks that get all giddy watching Simon bounce around on stage. The only people promoting MAPS have a demonstrated history of failed scams, and can't demonstrate a single similar success.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Over on Our Tone's little blog, we have this, entiteld an "exciting update"!

pretty soon they'll be dropping the 'c' from exciting

Originally Posted by Della Cate

OK, so MAPs is a world dominant advertising platform, is it? There are currently external advertisers and there are corporate advertisers waiting in the wings, right?

Name them.

C'mon, Our Tone, who are they then? And when, just when, are they coming on board to advertise in a closed loop that only Mappers ever see? Even if you do open it out so others can see into it (and I bet you don't, the phrase "laughing stock" comes to mind), do you really think you can take on Google when your own pictures show that your CEO doesn't have a computer or a telephone on his desk?

and as always with this and other scams like it, why are they not reaping the same rewards or better that the top scammers like septic enjoy? just think of all the customers they could bring in themselves (say like a Harrods customer base or any one on this list: Retail Economics - Top 10 UK Retailers) and blow people like septic out of the water. Why is maps holding people back? are they that big a hater?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

No bank, no private investor, no hedge funds, no private equity firm, no venture capital, no angel investor wants to put money into My Advertising Pays.

Does anybody? What proportion of posts are made by people as opposed to bots. My guess less than 0.1%

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Does anybody? What proportion of posts are made by people as opposed to bots. My guess less than 0.1%

Bots and Numpties.


The only page that seems to get any traction is Simon's goofy page where he posts insightful tips like this. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

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On Tony's Page, despite all the BIG things we really didn't hear about https://www.facebook.com/myadvertisingpaysMAP?fref=ts

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His crappy blog topadvertising.co.uk Site Overview

Global rank icon 4,481,142

Daily Pageviews per Visitor 1.80
Daily Time on Site 1:49

Firm round buns 10 likes, The Wheel 1 like, corporate advertisers must be tripping on themselves grabbing at pens to write checks.

For comparison.

taratalkstoday.blogspot.com Site Overview

Global rank icon 1,460,604


Daily Pageviews per Visitor 1.10
Daily Time on Site 2:07

Even haters get taken more seriously than Tony Booth.
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So lazy is Simon this is pinned to the top

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Here we are almost a month later, and he just posts the same thing:

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Still more likes than Tony's post.

Over on his FB page, the Slimy One has posted this:-

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Which is actually this......

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.....and according to Rightmove, has been on the market since late 2013.

Please note that it is for RENT and not for sale. And what is interesting is that it can be rented by the week or by the month. Most properties in the UK are 6 or 12 month tenancies, which can be renewed by mutual agreement. A rental like this is curious, although it probably attracts companies wanting to put up visiting VIPs or even people making a film. Or people needing a short term let of somewhere grand in order to impress other gullible people.......

I don't understand why the Mapper numpties sit round worshipping Stepsys all day (when not clicking their 10 ads or trying to lure people into the scheme, of course). Don't they see that it is THEIR money that is fuelling all his boasting?

Having said that, it is dead easy to go onto an estate agent's site and lift some photos then claim you have been there. Or even pose outside with the car you are test driving, of course!