Thread: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

OH NO! He's back! With another in-car video!

OMG! WOW! etc.....

Maps 14 Jan 16.jpg

But I wonder why it's the last national meeting until April? Maybe they are running out of hotels willing to host them? (They still cannot announce it too soon!) Or maybe our boy Simon knows something is about to happen and he wants to be out of the way when it does?

Who knows.

Originally Posted by dondraper

Jon here... Six months or so, and without explanation Tara blocked me from posting on the Facebook Scam pages, blocked me on Twitter and Facebook too - no explanation, no reason, just blocked.

I am in almost constant conversation with people in the digital media industry and journalists about the click ten a day ponzi schemes. The Sunday Times investigation into MAP's was at my suggestion, with me also introducing the journo to the other person quoted in that article and pointing the paper to various sources for further information (including the TaraTalks blog). The Facebook MAPs Scam page didn't even mention that article, never mind post the link or comment on the feature.

Due to the fact I'm London based, it was easy for me to walk into the hotels and speak to the management about MAP's events and suggest they take a bit of a look at what kind of organisation they were taking money from. I don't use an alias, and I'm fairly googleable so I'm putting myself out there.

Tara has done an incredible job dedicating time and effort to fighting scams, and documenting all the bullshit that they have spewed, and I have no desire to redact that.

I'm part of this scam fight as I've spent 16 years playing a very small part in creating the digital advertising industry, and have a good reputation within it. For me doing nothing whilst knowing I could would be incredibly upsetting for me.

I'm here to fight and share, and although I have loved reading the RS pages (without ever posting), I find Facebook a far better medium to get the message out and connect with both like-minded people and the mappets themselves. I stand by all my actions, knowing that MAP's is unable to dispute any of the points I've made, and that I know the articles I've helped and the hotel cancellations have had a material impact on their ponzi recruitment.

So, I'm still blocked on the Facebook Scam pages, and Tara has so far not commented about that.

Firstly, my apologies to the Real Scam admin for publishing a private message. Despite the provocation, it was inappropriate to do so and I regret it.
Secondly, the decision to ban any individual on our Facebook pages is taken by ALL the Admin, with good cause.
Thirdly, FOUR members of Real Scam were organised in notifying those Hotels, Dan Draper wasn't one of them. Many people helped us during our campaign, (once we got the ball rolling) silently getting on with it, unlike some.
Lastly, the article in the Sunday Times (which WAS mentioned in my blog) was not (by holiday oversight) mentioned on the main board, but WAS posted as a visitor post. To suggest this was an act of spite, is deeply insulting.

Originally Posted by dondraper

Jon here... Six months or so, and without explanation Tara blocked me from posting on the Facebook Scam pages, blocked me on Twitter and Facebook too - no explanation, no reason, just blocked.

I am in almost constant conversation with people in the digital media industry and journalists about the click ten a day ponzi schemes. The Sunday Times investigation into MAP's was at my suggestion, with me also introducing the journo to the other person quoted in that article and pointing the paper to various sources for further information (including the TaraTalks blog). The Facebook MAPs Scam page didn't even mention that article, never mind post the link or comment on the feature.

Due to the fact I'm London based, it was easy for me to walk into the hotels and speak to the management about MAP's events and suggest they take a bit of a look at what kind of organisation they were taking money from. I don't use an alias, and I'm fairly googleable so I'm putting myself out there.

Tara has done an incredible job dedicating time and effort to fighting scams, and documenting all the bullshit that they have spewed, and I have no desire to redact that.

I'm part of this scam fight as I've spent 16 years playing a very small part in creating the digital advertising industry, and have a good reputation within it. For me doing nothing whilst knowing I could would be incredibly upsetting for me.

I'm here to fight and share, and although I have loved reading the RS pages (without ever posting), I find Facebook a far better medium to get the message out and connect with both like-minded people and the mappets themselves. I stand by all my actions, knowing that MAP's is unable to dispute any of the points I've made, and that I know the articles I've helped and the hotel cancellations have had a material impact on their ponzi recruitment.

So, I'm still blocked on the Facebook Scam pages, and Tara has so far not commented about that.

I was going to have a bit of a google but is your name Dan, Don or Jon... it is a bit confusing. Thanks

Originally Posted by Dandygal

I was going to have a bit of a google but is your name Dan, Don or Jon... it is a bit confusing. Thanks

Jon Walsh ..shame he got blocked from the FB scam page, he did nowt wrong

Danny Turner or is it? (no it isn't) With a long ramble full of the usual BS.

This video is unlisted. Only those with the link can see it.

Screen Shot 2016-01-07 at 23.42.43.jpg

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Danny Turner or is it? (no it isn't)

c'mon. after Della exposed him, we all know it's guy incognitowilson.

Well, well, well. That super duper new MAPS office didn't last long did it.
IT'S UP FOR SALE - WITH NO SITTING TENANTS!

'The property would suit a variety of businesses including owner occupiers or investment buyers. Located in the centre of Great Harwood the property has good road links to the surrounding network.'

MAPS HOUSE FOR SALE.JPG

Tara has forced this issue to go public where it really wasn't needed. I have requested on a number of occasions over the last six months via email to either be unbanned or have an explanation as to what rules I have broken in order to be banned. THIS really didn't need to be done in public, and as someone else has already said "All this kind of in-fighting does is make the scammers appear more legitimate. We need to present a united front if we are going to convince people against joining this fraud." However, due to Tara's wall of silence to me and others, and despite the Sunday Times article being published post my ban, Tara has refused to engage with me, and from her previous post where she posted a screenshot of my private message to her, she has no desire to. But it doesn't work like that.... We are on the same side, all working towards a common cause of exposing scammers, removing scams, and at the very least reducing the number of people who like people we all know, will get burnt by these scams. Petty differences have no place in the grand scheme of things, and I believe that everyone that posts on RS (and other anti-scam forums) are generally quite intelligent and pretty decent human beings - no one person is more important than any other in this fight, and we are all a team with different contacts that can help, and different areas of expertise. Mine just happens to be that I'm based in Central London and that I have a thorough understanding of the digital advertising value chain, and have good contacts in the industry.

So I'm not really familiar with how the UI on this forum works, but I want to respond to you Tara but without the "RS" of quoting you...

Tara: Firstly, my apologies to the Real Scam admin for publishing a private message. Despite the provocation, it was inappropriate to do so and I regret it.
Me: I have no idea what you count as provocation. I have been banned with no clarity as to why despite being on-side and aggressively going after Tony Booth et al. I have requested what reason the admins have banned me for. Other people who you know and trust (I believe) have asked and all you've said is "no comment".
Tara: Secondly, the decision to ban any individual on our Facebook pages is taken by ALL the Admin, with good cause.
Me: Please share what the "good cause" was for me to be banned.
Tara:Thirdly, FOUR members of Real Scam were organised in notifying those Hotels, Dan Draper wasn't one of them. Many people helped us during our campaign, (once we got the ball rolling) silently getting on with it, unlike some.
Me: Yes there were multiple emails and tweets from multiple people that notified the hotels. I am not claiming sole credit for this (and never have), however the fact is that The Cumberland had been the hotel of choice for MAP's (and BB before that no?) for quite some time.... Making an effort to go there in person with credentials, speak directly to the events or hotel manager seemed to be the tipping point, no? I made this effort for each and every hotel, however they ultimately always made the choice to no allow MAP's events based upon what they could see for themselves rather than anything I or anyone here did - we just shone a bright light on them.
Tara: Lastly, the article in the Sunday Times (which WAS mentioned in my blog) was not (by holiday oversight) mentioned on the main board, but WAS posted as a visitor post. To suggest this was an act of spite, is deeply insulting.
Me: My intention was not to insult you, and I'm very sorry that you feel like that. I was simply drawing attention to the fact that you quite obviously have a personal strong dislike for me and the efforts to show MAP's up for what it is - a ponzi scam - are not welcomed by you. The fact is that the MAP's Scam page didn't post out the Sunday Times article despite there being a tokened link to it allowing readers to bypass the paywall on RS (thank you whoever did that), despite the scam page having multiple admins (surely not all on holiday at the same time), despite it being posted as a visitor post but not being reposted by an admin (visitor posts are not so easily visible to casual browsers of the page). The mention of the article on the TT's blog was merely a mention - getting MAP's featured in a quality broadsheet with a quote from the author of Understanding Digital Marketing as “To me, Map appears to be a Ponzi scheme that has managed to slip under the regulators’ radar." deserved more than what amounted to a mention. A transcription of the Hitler Downfall video that was anti-MAP's got more than five times the space on the blog. It your blog, and you decide what goes on.

Ultimately, I am still here and doing what I can to make sure press, trade bodies, and the general public are aware of My Advertising Pays as a scam whilst still trying to run my own business in the digital media industry (not clicking ten ads a day, not buying credit packs).

Apologies to everyone on here for this, as this shouldn't be done publicly and I have been patient and done everything I could to keep this matter private. If we act like Booth or any of these mappets by banning people for no obvious or discernible then we are no better than them, and I don't believe that is the case.

I would like to to be reinstated to the scam pages so I can discuss, engage and share my learnings or conversations with all of the good guys and girls over there or an opportunity to resolve whatever issue that led to it occurring in the first place directly. I know that other posters also appreciated someone with knowledge of the advertising industry commenting on the MAP's bullshit.

A final request, @Tara, I have no idea what you're problem with me is, but I would like you to drop it so that we can work together for the common cause that we both believe is worth fighting for.

Thanks all.

The last Meeting til April in London tomorrow, 09th January, I wonder why ? Isn' t the secret to success to "constantly" attend those brainwash - Events ? Why the long break ´til April now ? I smell something.....and I will laugh my head off, when the real "TRUTH" is finally out there, sometime very soon. LoL

Extremely important NEWS …

Message from Richard Mead to all MAPPERS:

Partly Released in Nantwich and very well received will be made public at tomorrow’s event – don’t miss out!!!! I am currently at the event checking out, I’m meeting people from Romania – Dubai – Germany today here that have travelled to be at this incredible event tomorrow ….. Last London National for 2-3 months !!!! Whatever you do this year – Get to this event !!!

URGENT Diamonds that are coming to tomorrows event that would like a laminated ‘Diamond Laminated Reserved Seat Place Mat’ with your NAME on it

Send to me now an email mapinabox@gmail.com with your name in block capitals please …. Nothing more requiredand I’ll get one made up personalised to you, if you have diamonds in your team that aren’t in this group forward this message please 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

DONT MISS OUT…… GET YOUR T

Hillarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂

I just sent him an email :

Hi Richard,

I want a laminated Seat Mat for my friend with the Name: IDIOT printed on it. In fact, you can place one on every Seat in the Room !

Thanks


Fried

Originally Posted by HARRISON

Well, well, well. That super duper new MAPS office didn't last long did it.
IT'S UP FOR SALE - WITH NO SITTING TENANTS!

'The property would suit a variety of businesses including owner occupiers or investment buyers. Located in the centre of Great Harwood the property has good road links to the surrounding network.'

MAPS HOUSE FOR SALE.JPG

What do you think, a little bit of skullduggery going on, perhaps ???

The interior doesn't look anything like what Lynne and Tony Booth claimed their new offices looked like and the date indicates they were lying when they said My Advertising Pays purchased the building.





Who'd a thunk it, Eh ???

Ponzi / pyramid promoters lying

Hold the presses,

Cancel all leave,

Be still, Oh my beating heart.

THERE'S BREAKING NEWS:

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Hold the presses,

Cancel all leave,

Be still, Oh my beating heart.

THERE'S BREAKING NEWS:

Maybe they've found an even larger set of pipes?
Or found another REAL lawyer?
Or maybe they've found another office with even more pot plants in it?

Nah, Simon is going to be there signing copies of his book.

We're pretty sure it will be an announcement that MAPS has BMW as an advertiser. Complete b******s and we can prove it. Bring it on.

Would I be accurate in assuming that as these types of scams get closer and closer to cutting and running with the money, the lies they are prepared to tell to fleece new victims becomes more and more outrageous?

Lying about the office space was bad enough, but if they are truly going to come out and say that BMW is a customer than that is on another level. Surely BMW could sue them back to the stone age for something like that?

Originally Posted by nerd

Would I be accurate in assuming that as these types of scams get closer and closer to cutting and running with the money, the lies they are prepared to tell to fleece new victims becomes more and more outrageous?

You're dead right, that is exactly what does happen.

It should be remembered that most of the long time members have been slowly conditioned to accept whatever nonsense they are fed.

They started off believing they could get rich by clicking on ten ads a day, things only went downhill from there, and now they'll believe anything.

Don't forget that Tony Booth let is slip that people in MAP would believe anything they tell them, and he wasn't kidding. He also said MAP scam would last longer than BB, and he wasn't kidding then either.

Woo Hooo!!! Big day for Scammer Mark Ghobril

https://www.facebook.com/groups/275653409292824/

Screen Shot 2016-01-09 at 10.57.34.jpg

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Woo Hooo!!! Big day for Scammer Mark Ghobril

https://www.facebook.com/groups/275653409292824/

Screen Shot 2016-01-09 at 10.57.34.jpg

surely she must be mistaken as the US is cut off from MAP.

gerbil scammer1.JPG

right?

Purdy bad that the US ranks 4 in MAP traffic sources. Heck of a job Gerbil.


bye bye maps.JPG

http://www.similarweb.com/website/my...s.com#overview

Sorry, but I have to tell you, that these data are absolutely not correct (or up to date)! Don't use sites like this to gather information, that is not professional!

Alexaheute.jpg

Could this be because a lot of links come via fb (us servers) even though many ppl may actually be based elsewhere