Thread: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

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This is the MAPs lot at their "training" in Nantwich. And what does this slide push? The need to get referrals under you, as it is THEIR money that will help with YOUR income.
I would not be so happy to join if I knew that part of each of my purchase was going into the pocket of the person above me. If people cannot see that, then there really is no hope!

Oh look who has just popped up in MAPS:-
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Now, wasn't he promoting Banners Broker frantically only last year? Let's have a look at his FB page.
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Why yes, he was! What a surprise.
Blimey, they are all coming out of the woodwork now, aren't they? At this rate, old Chris Smith and Raj Dixit will be popping by to say hello and give their blessing.

Over on SS's FB group page, someone has broken through and posted some naughty links. They appear 3 times and have not been removed yet (even though the School Sneak has reported them to the Head Prefect: "I draw these to your attention" indeed!)

Well done that man! And Tara, if you see this, your pages are being read in New Zealand. So the word really is spreading far and wide. I don't think it has stopped recruitment yet, but I hope things like this slow it down.
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Originally Posted by Della Cate

Blimey, they are all coming out of the woodwork now, aren't they? At this rate, old Chris Smith and Raj Dixit will be popping by to say hello and give their blessing.

When this guy shows up, you will know they are serious...

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Still makes me smirk

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I have said it before and will say it again; these people have NO SHAME!

I said this to a friend who knows a bit about these sorts of schemes (that is, he knows they exist and knows to avoid them, he isn't any sort of expert). He looked at me as if I was made and said "Of course they haven't, why should they if they are making money?". He wasn't standing up for them he was simply stating what he saw as a fact.

I would have a sense of shame. If I had induced people to join something like Banners Broker, for example, and then it was went t*ts up, I would be very ashamed. Even if I had also been taken in by it, and believed it to be genuine; if other people had joined on my say-so, and then it had failed, I would be deeply ashamed. And I am sure that some people are in this position and do have a sense of shame.

But others, as we have seen, do not. They jump seamlessly from one "big thing" to the next "big thing" and don't seem to care about the people they might leave scattered behind them. One mistake I could understand, but some of them have dozens of mistakes behind them. Surely, finding out that your upline or sponsor has a long history of failed schemes behind him/her should be a big warning sign NOT to proceed any further?

But as my friend said, why should they care if they are making money? Well, I don't care what he said, they may not have a sense of shame but they damn well should have!

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Well, if that's not an incentive, what is? Where do I sign up?

Remember BB and their different coloured packs? Blue, black, green, red etc?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

I have said it before and will say it again; these people have NO SHAME!

I said this to a friend who knows a bit about these sorts of schemes (that is, he knows they exist and knows to avoid them, he isn't any sort of expert). He looked at me as if I was made and said "Of course they haven't, why should they if they are making money?". He wasn't standing up for them he was simply stating what he saw as a fact.

I would have a sense of shame. If I had induced people to join something like Banners Broker, for example, and then it was went t*ts up, I would be very ashamed. Even if I had also been taken in by it, and believed it to be genuine; if other people had joined on my say-so, and then it had failed, I would be deeply ashamed. And I am sure that some people are in this position and do have a sense of shame.

But others, as we have seen, do not. They jump seamlessly from one "big thing" to the next "big thing" and don't seem to care about the people they might leave scattered behind them. One mistake I could understand, but some of them have dozens of mistakes behind them. Surely, finding out that your upline or sponsor has a long history of failed schemes behind him/her should be a big warning sign NOT to proceed any further?

But as my friend said, why should they care if they are making money? Well, I don't care what he said, they may not have a sense of shame but they damn well should have!

I would say the ones that do have shame just walk away and we never hear about them.

OOOH, what has been happening then?

It is like a school.......There's obviously been a falling out amongst the Prefects, and the Deputy Head Boy is having to Have Words with them all.....Are the cracks starting to show? Like BB when one of the group (Ian Driscoll, was it?) flounced out?
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Originally Posted by Della Cate

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Well, if that's not an incentive, what is? Where do I sign up?

Remember BB and their different coloured packs? Blue, black, green, red etc?

No more people are getting sucked in so it's time to move the goal posts. This is fading.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

OOOH, what has been happening then?

It is like a school.......There's obviously been a falling out amongst the Prefects, and the Deputy Head Boy is having to Have Words with them all.....Are the cracks starting to show? Like BB when one of the group (Ian Driscoll, was it?) flounced out?
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so is he teaching how to beg for a job but act like you're not someone's bitch?

Originally Posted by Whip

No more people are getting sucked in so it's time to move the goal posts. This is fading.

Oh is that the reason? I did wonder, but yup, it makes sense.

The muppets over on Slimy S's page think it is a GREAT idea, needless to say!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Oh is that the reason? I did wonder, but yup, it makes sense.

The muppets over on Slimy S's page think it is a GREAT idea, needless to say!

If you think back to banners broker, they did it to make it harder and harder so they could slow the money drain.

Originally Posted by Whip

If you think back to banners broker, they did it to make it harder and harder so they could slow the money drain.

Do you think they won't allow withdrawals unless and until someone is at one of those levels? Haven't seen that mentioned explicitly yet. Or do you think that is what that actually means? Sorry to be a bit dim about this.

As for Dickie A's diatribe above, wouldn't it be great if one of the so-called leaders had turned round at the training day and said "Nah, this is all a bag o' bollox and I'm off out of it!"??

Just slightly off topic, but please take the time to read this:-

Conman Daniel Burgoyne claimed to be like the Wolf of Wall Street | Daily Mail Online

The comments from the public at the base of the article are even better: "What idiots would fall for someone on Facebook posing as the Wolf of Wall Street?" , "Fake Rolex and an old BMW, hardly living the dream" and "What idiots would believe his cr*p - greedy idiots, that's who".

Now let me think, who does that remind me of?? Can't quite put my finger on it....

Originally Posted by Whip

If you think back to banners broker, they did it to make it harder and harder so they could slow the money drain.

Or could it be a ploy to get more money in? Stepsys reports that people are now putting more money in, in order to jump up to the next level. Mind you, how reliable is he?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Or could it be a ploy to get more money in? Stepsys reports that people are now putting more money in, in order to jump up to the next level. Mind you, how reliable is he?

both really but I think more to negate liabilities as there aren't going to be too many putting money in. even Master Blaster



isn't getting money (try as he might with his 'look at me......I'm pushing this........can I get some money now?') so he had to get a real job.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

They jump seamlessly from one "big thing" to the next "big thing" and don't seem to care about the people they might leave scattered behind them.

That's often the hardest thing for people to comprehend and a reason why many victims continue to follow the "gurus" into disaster after disaster.

Many people simply cannot (or will not) accept that to people like Septic Simon Stepsys and Co, money and power are the ONLY goals, people DON'T count, the elderly / disabled / naive / trusting are deliberately targeted and a professional fraudsters' very last consideration is the disastrous effects his or her activities may have on victims' lives.

Contrast this:



with this from Septic Simon Stepsys:

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Contrast this:



with this from Septic Simon Stepsys:

,...Kevin is er, er, er, (think before you speak there Simon) er, er, Maps LEGAL lawyer..'
Nice to know that even hardened scammers have difficulty telling lies.

See what happens when HYIP ponzi fraudsters are allowed to carry on unchecked ???

They become so confident they won't be prosecuted they don't even bother to hide their criminal activities.

Take a look at the My Advertising Pays front page:



There you go, twelve new HYIP ponzis to drag in the unwary "true believers"

And so the cycle continues

Originally Posted by Della Cate

OOOH, what has been happening then?

It is like a school.......There's obviously been a falling out amongst the Prefects, and the Deputy Head Boy is having to Have Words with them all.....Are the cracks starting to show? Like BB when one of the group (Ian Driscoll, was it?) flounced out?
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I thought I would make an audio transcript of what he said for those who might be perhaps visually impaired or similar:

Originally Posted by littleroundman

See what happens when HYIP ponzi fraudsters are allowed to carry on unchecked ???

They become so confident they won't be prosecuted they don't even bother to hide their criminal activities.

Take a look at the My Advertising Pays front page:



There you go, twelve new HYIP ponzis to drag in the unwary "true believers"

And so the cycle continues

Well, as far as I can see there are reasons for that:-

(1) They have a ready supply of numpties and innocents who might try out a few of these schemes, or,
(2) These are the only advertisers they can get - no-one else is interested.

Take your pick!

More vulgar displays from Stepsys I see.

And oh, Richard Meade, which trillion dollar companies do you have in mind? Microsoft? Apple? BP? ICI? Kraft?
Or do you have Banners Broker in mind, perchance?

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Originally Posted by Della Cate

More vulgar displays from Stepsys I see.

And oh, Richard Meade, which trillion dollar companies do you have in mind? Microsoft? Apple? BP? ICI? Kraft?
Or do you have Banners Broker in mind, perchance?

...

Can he at least name a single one trillion $ corporation ?