Thread: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Danny shows a picture of exactly what a Ponzi scheme recruiting rodeo looks like, then asks does this look like a Ponzi

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I must admit though it is concerning that so many people turned up in Germany. There are enough people there with potential referrals underneath to keep the scam going longer than we would all want to see. Are there no scam busters in Germany because the message does not appear to be getting through? At least here in Britain websites such as realscam give a chance for people to undertake some due diligence checks.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Oh dear! Yet more downtime.


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I must admit I do hate it when companies have downtime on a Saturday afternoon. But I suppose these big companies do need such time to clean their pipes and all that! Happens all the time to me with google, microsoft, bbc... erm, actually it doesn't happen with any other website I use! Hahahaha.

It's not as serious as it looks, Dandygal.

Germany has an estimated 2015 population of 79 804 656 (that's 79+ MILLION) and MAP is claiming to be able to make people rich beyond their wildest dreams by merely clicking on 10 advertisements a day.

Looking at the attendance in that light and it's not at all impressive, especially given the lack of people in the highlighted areas.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Since MAP had a big event in Cologne, why weren't Tony, Simon and Mike Deese at GMEXCO which was held in Cologne?

I think Simon was there.

Well, let me qualify that. He posted a picture on his FB page of his wife, child and himself, on a plane, saying they were off to Germany for the MAPs thingy. I'll see if I can find it.

Rather amusingly, he also posted a comment to say there were "no first class seats on European short haul flights". This made me laugh hugely, as I have been on many European short haul flights, and yes, there is always a first class section - not that I am in it, as a loser, I have to go economy class. Not that that bothers me as I am not a pompous pretentious prat who cares about such things.

I once read (admittedly some years ago) that Bill Gates, who really IS mega-rich, flies economy class on the grounds that "you get there just as fast". Hasn't Simon heard that? Surely in the millionaire circles in which he mixes, that is comon knowledge??

Here's something I'll bet you didn't know:

Becoming a pimp for a blatantly fraudulent ponzi scheme gives you psychic powers.

Don't believe me ????

Here's arch MAP pimp Danny Turner demonstrating how he knows where his critics live and why they use pseudonyms.

(PS: Danny, I'll save you having to look up the word "pseudonym" It's a noun and means a fictitious name, especially one used by an author.)

There you go, Eagle - found it!

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And here we see Stepsys and Davies in the German auditorium (arrowed). I especially like the gesture that the chap in the blue shirt is making. In the Uk, that is universally understood to mean f**k off!

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Originally Posted by littleroundman

Here's something I'll bet you didn't know:

Becoming a pimp for a blatantly fraudulent ponzi scheme gives you psychic powers.

Don't believe me ????

Here's arch MAP pimp Danny Turner demonstrating how he knows where his critics live and why they use pseudonyms.

(PS: Danny, I'll save you having to look up the word "pseudonym" It's a noun and means a fictitious name, especially one used by an author.)

Yeah......I saw that too.

Perhaps Danny boy will foresee the winning Lottery numbers soon. Oh silly me, he's in MAPs, isn't he, so he does not need trivial things like Lottery wins!

Seriously, I don't know about anyone else, but I think his relentless bashing of people who live in "council flats" extremely offensive, especially since a proportion of MAPs members probably come from that demographic. I hope that some of them take him to task over that. Not that they will, of course, as that might be "negative." And it is always silly to say something is a FACT when you really do not know!

People who live in council properties, or rented properties, or housing association properties are still human beings, Danny. A fact you might well remember.

Here's another one of Danny's "facts":-

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Originally Posted by littleroundman

Here's something I'll bet you didn't know:

Becoming a pimp for a blatantly fraudulent ponzi scheme gives you psychic powers.

Don't believe me ????

Here's arch MAP pimp Danny Turner demonstrating how he knows where his critics live and why they use pseudonyms.

(PS: Danny, I'll save you having to look up the word "pseudonym" It's a noun and means a fictitious name, especially one used by an author.)

DID YOU KNOW.......

A) 'danny turner' has never yet had a real business.
B) 'danny turner' sits in a council flat
C) there is no verifiable proof that 'danny turner' is his real name
D) anyone that wants to go after someone for libel can get the information they need to do so. illegal enterprises just don't want to expose themselves even more.

Originally Posted by Dandygal

I must admit though it is concerning that so many people turned up in Germany. There are enough people there with potential referrals underneath to keep the scam going longer than we would all want to see. Are there no scam busters in Germany because the message does not appear to be getting through? At least here in Britain websites such as realscam give a chance for people to undertake some due diligence checks.

Dandy, if my memory serves me correctly, and it probably doesn't from years of knockin back BumWine.com at my council flat...

I tried to get up with these people and either I found an email address that bounced, or I looked at the forms in German and said schrauben es!!! I know there are a few German bloggers out there taking a look at MAP, this would be a great call for them to make.

BaFin - Complaints to BaFin

Originally Posted by Whip

DID YOU KNOW.......

A) 'danny turner' has never yet had a real business.
B) 'danny turner' sits in a council flat
C) there is no verifiable proof that 'danny turner' is his real name
D) anyone that wants to go after someone for libel can get the information they need to do so. illegal enterprises just don't want to expose themselves even more.

Who is 'Danny Turner'? It's amazing what information you can get from Facebook isn't it? All sorts of pics get posted. All sorts of links get shared. All sorts of family info can be gathered. Take this for instance:
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He states in his blog that he comes from the Netherlands.
So is this HIS family, or his wifes?
HIS mum or hers?
FONSECA her maiden name or his REAL name?

And just LOVE this link!

Centrum Tara

and this one!

Tara praktijk voor natuurgeneeswijzen - Home

Originally Posted by Whip

DID YOU KNOW.......

A) 'danny turner' has never yet had a real business.
B) 'danny turner' sits in a council flat
C) there is no verifiable proof that 'danny turner' is his real name
D) anyone that wants to go after someone for libel can get the information they need to do so. illegal enterprises just don't want to expose themselves even more.

Here's something I DO know:

There is no possible way Danny Turner, Simon Stepsys, Mike Deese, any of the Booth gang or MAP itself are ever going to sue anybody.

If they did, they would have to explain the legality of what they're doing in open court and THAT sure as h*** ain't gonna happen.

They have to keep threatening, because that's what the true believers expect a"real" business would do.

So, criticize, ridicule and insult away to your hearts' content,

It's open slather.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

They have to keep threatening, because that's what the true believers expect a"real" business would do.

and as we have seen.....that's far from the truth. Real businesses just do it. no blustering/idle threats involved.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

I think Simon was there.

Well, let me qualify that. He posted a picture on his FB page of his wife, child and himself, on a plane, saying they were off to Germany for the MAPs thingy. I'll see if I can find it.

Rather amusingly, he also posted a comment to say there were "no first class seats on European short haul flights". This made me laugh hugely, as I have been on many European short haul flights, and yes, there is always a first class section - not that I am in it, as a loser, I have to go economy class. Not that that bothers me as I am not a pompous pretentious prat who cares about such things.

I once read (admittedly some years ago) that Bill Gates, who really IS mega-rich, flies economy class on the grounds that "you get there just as fast". Hasn't Simon heard that? Surely in the millionaire circles in which he mixes, that is comon knowledge??

I had no doubt that Simon would be at the "MAP" event in Cologne, Germany, but he sure wasn't at the GMEXCO event in Cologne, nor was Tony Booth or Mike Deese. Heck, they don't even know what GMEXCO is let alone be a member.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Seriously, I don't know about anyone else, but I think his relentless bashing of people who live in "council flats" extremely offensive, especially since a proportion of MAPs members probably come from that demographic.

People who live in council properties, or rented properties, or housing association properties are still human beings, Danny. A fact you might well remember.

85% of people in the borough of Wandsworth live in Council properties. I would not be at all surprised if my "Council Flat" was worth more than Simon's home. What is the current value of your property Simon?

Could he afford more than £245K for my Council flat which was valued at £248 when it was valued about eighteen months ago. Flats in Norley Vale.

If he bought a flat on this estate, he might be able to get around the whole estate by bicycle and save petrol.

But, but, but Simon drives a Bentley and he can't be caught out that he lives in a Council Flat. Bad for the image don't you know!

OMG! Wow!

MAPs now has T-shirts, proof that it MUST be real!

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Where can I sign up???

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Here's something I DO know:

There is no possible way Danny Turner, Simon Stepsys, Mike Deese, any of the Booth gang or MAP itself are ever going to sue anybody.

If they did, they would have to explain the legality of what they're doing in open court and THAT sure as h*** ain't gonna happen.

They have to keep threatening, because that's what the true believers expect a"real" business would do.

So, criticize, ridicule and insult away to your hearts' content,

It's open slather.

They often say that "haterz" hide behind fake names and fake profiles, knowing that if they didn't, the Mapperoonies would sue tha ar*e off them all! Occasionally there is a vague threat along the lines of "We know where you live!" from one Mapper or another.

Well, I have a suggestion.

Why doesn't Danny boy, or Simon Stepsys or Our Tone or even Mike Deese sue the Daily Mirror and the Sunday Times? If they are unhappy with what has been written and piublished about MAPs (and in Simon's case, about him personally), why not contact the papers and demand a correction? Why not point out just where the newspaper articles have got it wrong, provide proof of the validity of MAPs, and ask them to put the misinformation right?

After all, the newspaper contact details are freely available, they (presumably) have in-house legal teams to handle disputes; all the Mappers need to do is instruct a lawyer and bob's your uncle!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

They often say that "haterz" hide behind fake names and fake profiles, knowing that if they didn't, the Mapperoonies would sue tha ar*e off them all! Occasionally there is a vague threat along the lines of "We know where you live!" from one Mapper or another.

Well, I have a suggestion.

Why doesn't Danny boy, or Simon Stepsys or Our Tone or even Mike Deese sue the Daily Mirror and the Sunday Times? If they are unhappy with what has been written and piublished about MAPs (and in Simon's case, about him personally), why not contact the papers and demand a correction? Why not point out just where the newspaper articles have got it wrong, provide proof of the validity of MAPs, and ask them to put the misinformation right?

After all, the newspaper contact details are freely available, they (presumably) have in-house legal teams to handle disputes; all the Mappers need to do is instruct a lawyer and bob's your uncle!

not only that but the septic one was specifically contacted by the paper for his side and he refused to talk to them.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

They often say that "haterz" hide behind fake names and fake profiles,

I'm not certain why people would accept this as a defense. It's not uncommon to turn to the web for advice on any number of topics and rely on people that may or may not be using a screen name. The question I ask myself is does the reviewer seem credible and do they address my concerns. Has this person proved themselves right or wrong previously? Are there external sources I can use to verify what they are saying? There are people I have chatted with and have no idea who they might be that gave sound advice. Conversely some people I know well and would rather toss a coin than seek their counsel.

Second what difference does someone's name make if their question is deleted and they banned immediately for naysaying? A group of handymen don't toss someone off a page for signing in as Sally123 to ask about a composite siding recall. In fact I bet they get a kick out of showing their knowledge. Is a good question not a good question?

More than all that few really know who owns MAP.

One has to buy a guy so broke he got kicked out of a bar band had funds to spend a year with top unnamed mathematicians/engineers developing this wrld clss ad platfrm. Then choose to anoint a fellow that can't construct a proper sentence as Chief Communications Officer. Finally the biggest irony of all sending money via VX Gateway to the Sunday Comics Leadership Team in Panama is how legit businesses fund operations.

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All wrapped in a nice shell of serial Ponzi/Pyramid promoters that have NEVER been right about the next big thing.


"Truth is an absolute defense to defamation. Remember that defamation is a false statement of fact. So, if the statement was accurate, then by definition it wasn’t defamatory."
Privileges and Defenses in Defamation Cases | Nolo.com

A credible accountant signing off on publicly released financials (like Google and Facebook dooz it) would be a whole lot more believable than a bunch of faux huffiness about suing people.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

But, but, but Simon drives a Bentley and he can't be caught out that he lives in a Council Flat. Bad for the image don't you know!

I bet he would be very happy to own a Council flat in some parts of London where Bentleys are commonplace. Could he afford this 1 Million pound Council flat

He is unlikely to be able to afford a garage for his Bentley in Central London. A bike shed provided by Wandsworth Council for their tenants or leaseholders is over£7 a month. That is nothing compared to the cost of one in central London. The cost of a garage for a Bentley for those who own one million pond Council flats would be pretty hefty.

Why would Simon need any car in urban parts of the UK? A bike would give him far more mobility.

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Why would Simon need any car in urban parts of the UK? A bike would give him far more mobility.

the wind blowing through his few hairs he has left would also wrinkle the only 2 shirts he owns.

Sorry about the events folks, am pretty certain hotel management is choc full of envy too.


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This "jealous of success" platitude only seems to occur in:

1. Get rich quick seminars/infomercials
2. Ponzi/Pyramid/MLM Schemes
3. Mentoring programs arising out of 1&2.

Success in MapLandia defined as promises of passive and/or residual income allowing the participant to escape their J.O.B. Yet these Disciples of Plutus always need a cash offering before any participant can be led to the promised land. From scam to scheme the hymn never changes.

Along those lines Whip's comment got me thinking...

Originally Posted by Whipy the D

where did the misnomer come from that 'successful people want others to succeed'? Quite honestly, legitimately successful people are too busy being working to be successful to worry about others not immediately tied to them. I couldn't care less if my successful competition is successful really. So why isn't cross recruiting allowed in map? Aren't they wanting their sheep to be 'successful' in other scams as well?

I can't think of any successful person that helped further my station in life that ever asked me for money. To the contrary through the years many took time to share ideas with no expectation of a payday. Plus mutually beneficial relationships where they actually paid me to do work, a novel concept in this MAP universe. I've thought back to a few conversations with people who were "successful" by MAP standards, but hated what they did. I've never come away from that sort of conversation thinking it was subterfuge to steer me a way from a golden honeypot of wealth. Finally a few tradespeople I've known got annoyed at mentoring people that ended up leaving to compete and decided they would rather work solo. This especially seems reasonable on many fronts.

Where else in the business world do successful people ask understudies for cash while training them only how to solicit funds from others?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

They often say that "haterz" hide behind fake names and fake profiles,

Conversely, "next-big-thing" ponzi fraudsters usually DON'T hide behind false names and false profiles.

Think: Andy Bowdoin of AdSurf Daily, Chris Smith of Banners Broker, Bernie Madoff of Madoff Investments, Paul Burks of Zeek Rewards, Charis Johnson of 12Daily Pro, Bryan Marsden of PIPS, Trevor E Reed of CEP and Septic Simon Stepsys of My Advertising Pays

So what they are saying is, they'd prefer to be ripped off by someone whose name they know than warned off by someone whose name they DON'T know

I think there's a word to describe that sort of twisted logic,

Oh, yes, it's "craziness"

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Conversely, "next-big-thing" ponzi fraudsters usually DON'T hide behind false names and false profiles.

Think: Andy Bowdoin of AdSurf Daily, Chris Smith of Banners Broker, Bernie Madoff of Madoff Investments, Paul Burks of Zeek Rewards, Charis Johnson of 12Daily Pro, Bryan Marsden of PIPS, Trevor E Reed of CEP and Septic Simon Stepsys of My Advertising Pays

So what they are saying is, they'd prefer to be ripped off by someone whose name they know than warned off by someone whose name they DON'T know

I think there's a word to describe that sort of twisted logic,

Oh, yes, it's "craziness"

They are all crazy, bordering on mental. They all repeatedly believe so much rubbish it's unbelievable. The sooner they are put out their misery the better.