Thread: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

Oh, look what I found on the "Team Mapeeters" FB page (run by one Raymond Smith) - temporary closure on VX Gateway, the main MAPs withdrawal method. This was posted on Monday 27th July, so it should be open again. But presumably while it was closed, no-one could withdraw?

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Looks like some frantic cross pitching is going on.

Well......you gotta have an eye to the future, haven't you? The Mappers on the SS FB group page are sitting ducks for this sort of thing though, aren't they?

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Originally Posted by Della Cate

...To do what this guy did is ethically wrong...

Oh the irony...

Our old chum, Simon Stepsys, keeps on saying "Do not work for paper".

This has been puzzling me for some little time. What does he mean? Paper money? Paper paycheques? Paper bank statements?

Or is he saying it's better to work for numbers on a screen? In that case, Mappers are in the right place!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Our old chum, Simon Stepsys, keeps on saying "Do not work for paper".

This has been puzzling me for some little time. What does he mean? Paper money? Paper paycheques? Paper bank statements?

Or is he saying it's better to work for numbers on a screen? In that case, Mappers are in the right place!

I have also wondered what is meant by "DONT WORK FOR PAPER WOW OMG!"

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Looks like some frantic cross pitching is going on.

Well......you gotta have an eye to the future, haven't you? The Mappers on the SS FB group page are sitting ducks for this sort of thing though, aren't they?

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and I have no doubt it is septic himself doing it.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Our old chum, Simon Stepsys, keeps on saying "Do not work for paper".

This has been puzzling me for some little time. What does he mean? Paper money? Paper paycheques? Paper bank statements?

Or is he saying it's better to work for numbers on a screen? In that case, Mappers are in the right place!

being the hypocrites they are, the sheep don't stop and think how the hypocrites could allegedly rent buy the rentleys and fauxlexs if it weren't for the 'paper' they worked so hard to steal.

Originally Posted by nerd

I have also wondered what is meant by "DONT WORK FOR PAPER WOW OMG!"

it's another dig at people working a 9-5, which the scammers need sheep to do, in order for sheep to put more money in for the scammers to steal. These dopes don't realize how stupid they really are.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Our old chum, Simon Stepsys, keeps on saying "Do not work for paper".

[I]What does he mean?

He means if a paper asks you to prove your claims you work on something else.

'Internet millionaire' says it's so simple to get rich - but banned salesman fails to answer calls - Mirror Online


Like a Youtube video where, is that something shiny?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Our old chum, Simon Stepsys, keeps on saying "Do not work for paper".

This has been puzzling me for some little time. What does he mean? Paper money? Paper paycheques? Paper bank statements?

If there is a video or post on this "paper" matter, I'd suggest you make an assessment of the entire context in which the remarks are made.

In some scams, "paper" money is a masked complaint about "fiat currency." The "programs" try to sell folks on conspiracy theories. You might, for example, hear a "sovereign citizen" ranting about fiat currency while trying to recruit folks into a precious-metals swindle or even a garden-variety HYIP.

The incongruity is that they might rant against paper and try to get recruits to see a government agent behind every tree, but they actually want to be able to convert their electronic hauls into the same fiat currency they rant about.

Simon is really pressing things by appearing in Italy. That's the home of CONSOB, the securities regulator. The video posted by ribshaw really shows the cross-border nature of these schemes. In this case, a Brit seems perfectly comfortable venturing across borders into Italy and pitching MAPS on Italian soil.

CONSOB has gone after a number of individual promoters of the more infamous schemes, including JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid and Profitable Sunrise.

PPBlog

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Like a Youtube video where, is that something shiny?

So, Simon is selling MAPS from Italy, the home of CONSOB? Anybody remember Ricochet Riches? JSS Tripler? Here's what happened when CONSOB learned they were operating in the country.

Consob

PPBlog

Originally Posted by Whip

being the hypocrites they are, the sheep don't stop and think how the hypocrites could allegedly rent buy the rentleys and fauxlexs if it weren't for the 'paper' they worked so hard to steal.

And they don't think about pictures like this either. If this isn't "paper" that they are all waving about, I don't know what it is!

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They're having a second event in Italy in November, apparently.

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Obviously not bothered by CONSOB.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

And they don't think about pictures like this either. If this isn't "paper" that they are all waving about, I don't know what it is!

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SECRET MILLIONAIRES on the Internet? Don't they mean five people waving a bit of paper that looks like a genuine tenner or fiver instead of the usual cardboard cheques?

Have they announced yet where the "big" meeting is going to take place this Saturday yet?

Dieter Hirsch, a German Mapper (well, I think he is German anyway) has written the following as part of an explanation of MAPs:-

"MyAdvertisingPays offers a one-level affiliate program through which you receive a so-called life time commission through recommendation.
That means that you receive a provision for each recommended person (referral) for all future product buys your referral executes.
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MyAdvertisingPays (MAP) is therefore not a network marketing or MLM, because it doesn't pay commissions on multiple levels!"

Well, I don't think that is strictly true. Everyone who joins is paid a commission on every "product" bought by anyone they recruit, aren't they?

Person A joins and recruits persons B,C,and D.
A gets referral commission from B, C and D.
In their turn, B, C and D also recruit E,F,G,and H
B,C and D get referral commission from E,F and G (but not H as he drops out and doesn't actually buy anything)
E F and G then recruit......and so it goes on.

As far as I can see, A, at the top of the heap, gets commission from those directly under him, but not from those beneath his referrals. So in that respect, Mr Hirsch is right. But everyone in this heap is getting referral commission from somebody else, so in that respect, he is wrong.

Since everybody can recruit, and all their recruits can recruit, and everyone who recruits gets paid commission on what the recruits buy, I'm kinda feeling this is a bit of a , cough, pyramid scheme myself. Or have I missed something?

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Have they announced yet where the "big" meeting is going to take place this Saturday yet?

It's 8th August, Eagle, not the 1st......and they cannot tell anyone yet, the venue is still to be confirmed. But it's going to be a "top London hotel".

OMG! Wow! Buy More! Refer More!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Dieter Hirsch, a German Mapper (well, I think he is German anyway) has written the following as part of an explanation of MAPs:-

"MyAdvertisingPays offers a one-level affiliate program through which you receive a so-called life time commission through recommendation.
That means that you receive a provision for each recommended person (referral) for all future product buys your referral executes.
.
MyAdvertisingPays (MAP) is therefore not a network marketing or MLM, because it doesn't pay commissions on multiple levels!"

Well, I don't think that is strictly true. Everyone who joins is paid a commission on every "product" bought by anyone they recruit, aren't they?

Person A joins and recruits persons B,C,and D.
A gets referral commission from B, C and D.
In their turn, B, C and D also recruit E,F,G,and H
B,C and D get referral commission from E,F and G (but not H as he drops out and doesn't actually buy anything)
E F and G then recruit......and so it goes on.

As far as I can see, A, at the top of the heap, gets commission from those directly under him, but not from those beneath his referrals. So in that respect, Mr Hirsch is right. But everyone in this heap is getting referral commission from somebody else, so in that respect, he is wrong.

Since everybody can recruit, and all their recruits can recruit, and everyone who recruits gets paid commission on what the recruits buy, I'm kinda feeling this is a bit of a , cough, pyramid scheme myself. Or have I missed something?

the whole problem with his post in a nutshell is that no one has ever accused the maps scam of being mlm. It's a ponzi plain and simple. but this is the time that they have to start addressing things that have never been said to deflect from the real issues of a failing scam.

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Blo*dy hell. If these are the "greats", I'd rather not bother!

Originally Posted by Whip

the whole problem with his post in a nutshell is that no one has ever accused the maps scam of being mlm. It's a ponzi plain and simple. but this is the time that they have to start addressing things that have never been said to deflect from the real issues of a failing scam.

Ah. Thanks for that, Whip. I see it now. But I am right that everyone can refer (and is encouraged to do so), and that every referrals brings with it a commission on every following purchase, aren't I?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Ah. Thanks for that, Whip. I see it now. But I am right that everyone can refer (and is encouraged to do so), and that every referrals brings with it a commission on every following purchase, aren't I?

you are absolutely correct. Notice there isn't even a hint about advertising while explaining an alleged 'advertising' company.

Originally Posted by Whip

the whole problem with his post in a nutshell is that no one has ever accused the maps scam of being mlm. It's a ponzi plain and simple. but this is the time that they have to start addressing things that have never been said to deflect from the real issues of a failing
scam.

Exactly,

fraud is fraud is fraud.

When they start the "ponzi / not ponzi" and "MLM / not MLM" or "Pyramid / not pyramid" arguments it's yet another sign the end is near.

How many times have we seen the same pattern ???

Originally Posted by Whip

the whole problem with his post in a nutshell is that no one has ever accused the maps scam of being mlm. It's a ponzi plain and simple. but this is the time that they have to start addressing things that have never been said to deflect from the real issues of a failing scam.

So true, the 800 Ponzi Gorilla is the lack proven outside revenue to support this unbelievable life changing opportunity. 175,,, members and not a single external advertiser of any importance is on board.

They may as well be sharing gingerbread recipes for all the relevance of their justifications.

Goo Bets from this Banners Broker/MAPS Pimp has been renamed Bewise Trader



Despite claiming above he turned $1,000 into $50,000 in BB, here he claims he was scammed.

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Now we have Business Angels, formally known as Viral Angels promoted by UFUN/MAPS Pimpette Claire Hartman-Hartman Hyphen James.

Just like all those ad clicking scams that stop paying people so they can raise more funds under a new name. Anything to do with Google searches and scam sites? Anything to do with unqualified promoters taking your money and earning a cut?



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Punzi Mumsi Claire Hartman <info@webdesignhome.co.uk

Viral Angels has recently been rebranded Business Angels and the website has now been updated, they are in the process of setting up a new direct debit scheme, whilst I have paid this months subscription by PayPal, I believe you may have to set up a bank transfer. If you still wish to be part of this excellent long term investment or wish to start to be, please get in touch with me ASAP and I shall endeavour to assist you or get answers to any questions you may have.

I'm slightly out of the loop too, so whilst I may not have the answers directly, as for myself Business Angels is an excellent passive opportunity now, I know a man that can...!

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For $1000 this phrase is often uttered: "Don't work for paper, build passive income."

What does one hear from unqualified people before they lighten my wallet wallet?

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This just in from Dave "Top Tips" Hayes. (The little stars are my addition).

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It can't be just me who thinks it is particularly offensive to target the following people:-

- People receiving compensation payments (in the UK, PPI payouts are for mis-sold payment protection insurance, although I'm surprised if they are paying out at that level);

- People with disabilities;

- People (presumably) drawing from personal pension pots, something the UK Government now allows. There have been many warnings in the media to older folk to beware of people trying to get hold of their money for dodgy schemes. I wondered how long it would be before some Mapper spotted that one!

- People with ISAs (Individual Saving Accounts which are tax free) - yes, the interest rate is rubbish, but the money is safe in them and interest rates can rise.

-Property investors - well, presumably they want to invest in bricks and mortar, now numbers on a screen....and I thought the "i" word was banned anyway?

Quite honestly, people may as well set fire to their money in the street as give it to MAPs.

Disgusting, all of it.