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    The great thing about the article by Jon Walsh is that it is a great resource for anyone considering joining MAP's as it is from a real ad exec's analysis and perspective. Not from a "naysayer" or "hater", as the people in MAP's like to say about us, or anyone who dares criticize or challenges MAP's as being real, but from someone who is in the advertising business, and knows what they are talking about. It is my sincere hope that those who read it will realize how the people who are promoting MAP's, as this great advertising platform, will see that it is all smoke and mirrors and is all about the referrals.
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    Now what is really funny is that many at MMG have read the article by Jon Walsh, and are quoting what Jon said but trying to say that I was the one saying it. Talk about delusional and having reading comprehension issues. The good news is that people are reading, learning and getting educated by the article.
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    Gosh. Someone has just pumped $7,500 into the MAPs system. (I have erased his name to spare his blushes - I'm too kind!)

    Maps 531 June 15.jpg

    Believe and take MASSIVE action, eh? Well, people used to think the Earth was flat and that you could fall over the edge. I'm afraid that this person will be in for equally massive disappointment when MAPs also falls over the edge.

    MAPs needs people like this though, doesn't it?

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    Somebody needs to contact Tony Booth, this guy Saul Kaye is another pimp breaking the rules.

    He uses the "I" word in relation to My Advertising Pays & then (shock horror) shows his back office.




    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    As we all know, the Mappers have been holding meetings at the Cumberland Hotel for over a year. Their next one was due on 4th July.

    Mysteriously, however, it has been cancelled at short notice and moved to the nearby Holiday Inn. The official reason that they cite is that they needed a bigger room, but I wonder if that is really the case??

    Maps hotel june 15.jpg

    Question: it is old Stepsys that has been booking and publicising these meetings at the Cumberland, isn't it? Why then is it down to Leslie Carter to explain the sudden change of venue? Does anyone else get the impression that Stepsys is sliding out of the picture, oh so slowly and oh so slightly, leaving others to take over? That's the impression I am starting to get. And IF I am right about this, what does that tell you?

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    "Don't work like a dog for your money, let your money work like a dog for you."

    Sounds like the fluff email that Robert Kiyosaki so nicely shared with me. The concerned Ponzi Aunt Hartman Hartman James with some kind words on procrastination. There is a three part video series on Investment Fraud linked below, uncanny it was uploaded in 2009 five years before MAPS but the same techniques of scamming just a relevant.

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    Sign Your Own Paycheck and Take Back Control

    Rather than asking where your raise has gone, ask: “shouldn’t I be the one in control of my life?” The answer is simple: YES! You can choose to take back control and end the 9-to-5 grind. If you work for money, you give the power to your employer. If money works for you, you keep the power and control.

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    Ponzi Aunt Claire Hartman info@webdesignhome.co.uk

    Procrastination is one of the biggest time thieves for all of us myself included...​

    Why do you think this is?

    For me if I procrastinate about something, it’s normally because I either do not really enjoy that thing, find it hard work to do or am tired and lacking self motivation.

    It’s rarely to do with time as many might initially think.

    Let’s face it, if it’s something we enjoy doing or are good at doing or can immediately see the benefit in doing we jump at it, we make time for it, we reschedule our diaries to fit it in! A friend offers you a free ticket to your favourite show with a champagne dinner thrown in and all of a sudden there’s a convenient slot in your diary!

    To move ourselves forward in life and in business we have to practice feeling uncomfortable now and again and push our own area of comfortability or skills. For example, I’ve been watching periscope (live broadcasts) a week or so now, I know it’s something I could be possibly good at and offer value to others with, yet until today I’ve not really taken much action. Ok, compared to some a week procrastinating is not a big deal, some take months or literally years to finally take action! For me a week is a while, I like to act fast on inspiration, so what stopped me…

    Click below low to read more.

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    3:18 How fraudsters get you to think with your heart instead of your head. 16:00 better act quickly. 11:55 video 2 should sound real familiar to Mappers

    Free DVD Protect Your Money - Tricks of the Trade: Outsmarting Investment Fraud - SaveAndInvest.org, also available on YouTube.

    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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    re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

    MLM for years has had a scam within the scam where "motivational and marketing tools" are SOLD to the affiliate under the guise of helping them build their business.

    Exposing the MLM Tool ScamWorld (With Bonus: Neucopia Scam Analysis) - Lazy Man and Money


    This is a screen shot taken from Clarie Hartman Hartman James AFFILIATE LINK.

    If Deese is so concerned about building MAPS as a lasting business to hand down to his daughter, why is he not providing MAP da' BOX to affiliates as an investment on his part? Ditto for the Booths, CHJ, and Stepsys, is the goal to build this business or get as many people to pump fresh money into the scam as possible? Asked another way, where is any emphasis on external advertisers?

    Crap in a Box.jpg
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    Crap in a Box from the scammer master.JPG

    The first and really only question in any opportunity like MAPS is why is fresh money continually needed? In the case of MAPS there is no valid reason $50 per pack should have to be paid up front. Putting in $50 and getting back $60 is the same matematically for the affiliate and the company as an affiliate putting in $0 and getting back $10. That $50 per pack is being used to create an illusion of taking action and having one's own business.
    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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    Just stumbled on this article in the paper version of IBD which is how low tech I am. While I know very little about the ad biz, below is the type of discussion I would expect from publishers and advertisers. When was the last time we got something even remotely close from Booth, Stepsys, or dare I say Deese?


    Yahoo this month said it's partnering with several third-party measurement firms that provide independent viewability and fraud measurement for display and video advertising on Yahoo sites and other sites that buy ads via Yahoo's programmatic buying platform.

    Kellogg Co. (NYSE:K) said it won't buy ads on Google's YouTube video site because of viewability measurement concerns. "Kellogg does not buy 'pre-roll video ads' on YouTube because they do not allow third-party verification for viewability and do not allow DMP tags," Kellogg told IBD via email. DMP stands for data management platform, or software for tracking media.

    Read More At Investor's Business Daily: Ad 'Viewability' Standards Elusive As Digital Grows YHOO FB KRFT - Investors.com
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    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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    ...so many things to worry about when planning a venue.
    The people, the food, the invitations.
    The right ADDRESS!

    cumberland hotel 4th july.JPG

    holiday inn july 4th.JPG

    excuse for moving hotel.JPG

    ...AND FINALLY THIS ONE! We'll see...!

    changed again!!.JPG

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    I see that the Booths have yet another FB page:-

    Maps June 15 Booths.jpg

    But despite the fact that Our Tone is the "Communications" supremo, they don't seem to communicate very much, do they?

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    Facebook in their infinite wisdom thought I might enjoy the MAPs Official Real Deal, um Seriously You Guys this is the Official Page Page.

    10,523 members for a "business" with 150,000 alleged participants. Color me skeptical, apparently my request to join is still being reviewed.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/275653409292824/

    MAP Official Group Ponzi Scam.JPG

    MAP Official Group.JPG

    Lots of MAPS groups.JPG

    I thought this was a spin-off page of MAPS, https://www.facebook.com/groups/450657198387769/ but it's a page for 1000s of other once in a lifetime opportunities just nothing like MAPS.
    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    Color me skeptical, apparently my request to join is still being reviewed.
    hopefully you signed up as Cat Smeow.
    Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.

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    The facebook page for the event venue is already getting swamped with people telling them they are hosting a ponzi scam. Hopefully these scammers are starting to realise that we are not just a bunch of haters and that we can actually have a large impact on there illegal activities.

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    the reason they call people 'teh hatorz!' is precisely because they know their scam is being exposed and it makes an impact. just think how many more people would be sucked in if no one said anything about the scam.
    Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    the reason they call people 'teh hatorz!' is precisely because they know their scam is being exposed and it makes an impact.
    Simon and Dennis might still be finger banging this honest genius that just wanted to help the little guy were it not for 'teh hatorz!' .

    Simon Stepsys when Chris Smith and Banners Broker where here to stay..JPG
    Dennis Cole kissing Chris Smiths Ass the Banners Broker will be Google days.JPG

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    just think how many more people would be sucked in if no one said anything about the scam.
    Thread is over 118,000 views and growing, bet it hits 500,000 once the excuses about payments and what-not start.


    Until then, random chestnuts before the UFUN with MAPS starts...

    Claire Hartman Hartman James a Punzi promoting mummy of two recently scrubbed Youtube channel would lead one to think, free advice and a business genius. A little digging here and they know MAPS is her third Ponzi this year. That fact alone should be enough for any sane person to know how MAPS ends and either keep or get their money out. #askclaire

    Claire Hartman James wipes away the Ponzi.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by nerd View Post
    The facebook page for the event venue is already getting swamped with people telling them they are hosting a ponzi scam. Hopefully these scammers are starting to realise that we are not just a bunch of haters and that we can actually have a large impact on there illegal activities.

    Here's the link, all welcome! https://www.facebook.com/HolidayInnRegentsPark

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    Then of course there is this page - the OFFICIAL Maps page:-

    https://www.facebook.com/MyAdvertisi...ficial?fref=ts

    Attachment 11171

    Considering they claim 160,000+ members, this page has very few likes. Mind you, I don't know wht they have these pages, as they put bu*ger all on them! And as for the closed group that Ribshaw found, just look who the admins are. Round up the usual suspects.

    Except.....Stepsys isn't one of them, which surprises me. But Mike Deese is, which is even more surprising, because all I have seen him do is (1) appear in a few photos, and (2) then in a video on a beach, laughing and poking his tongue out while wearing a Confederate flag in his hat.

    Why anyone takes this thing seriously beats me. It's got more holes in it than a colander, yet people give up their jobs for that?? (Facepalm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Then of course there is this page - the OFFICIAL Maps page:-

    https://www.facebook.com/MyAdvertisi...ficial?fref=ts

    Attachment 11171

    Considering they claim 160,000+ members, this page has very few likes. Mind you, I don't know wht they have these pages, as they put bu*ger all on them! And as for the closed group that Ribshaw found, just look who the admins are. Round up the usual suspects.

    Except.....Stepsys isn't one of them, which surprises me. But Mike Deese is, which is even more surprising, because all I have seen him do is (1) appear in a few photos, and (2) then in a video on a beach, laughing and poking his tongue out while wearing a Confederate flag in his hat.

    Why anyone takes this thing seriously beats me. It's got more holes in it than a colander, yet people give up their jobs for that?? (Facepalm)
    I Don't agree about stepys not being involved
    Look at the first page of this thread http://www.realscam.com/f8/serial-su...es-again-2829/
    And you will note the original sweep several of us did on several 'usual suspects'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beacon View Post
    I Don't agree about stepys not being involved
    Look at the first page of this thread http://www.realscam.com/f8/serial-su...es-again-2829/
    And you will note the original sweep several of us did on several 'usual suspects'
    Sorry, if I wasn't clear; all I meant was that he isn't involved as an admin of the "official" closed group that Ribshaw posted (as far as I can see, apologies if this is not the case) - I know he's involved with MAPs!

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    Unfortunately for everyone's favourite cabbie, the "doubters" will have much more fun in the long run.....

    Maps 533 June 15.jpg

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    Screen Shot 2015-06-26 at 18.05.20.jpg

    So Andrew, considering you now have 1200 (constantly expiring) Ponzi points, are you now living the life of Riley?
    Or are you still living the life of Andrew Walker delusional cab driver?

    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    TaraTalks reporting the Holiday Inn has cancelled the event at their hotel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char View Post
    TaraTalks reporting the Holiday Inn has cancelled the event at their hotel.


    ...yep. Definitely cancelled! Can't wait to see what happens next!
    p.s the 'gentleman' he refers to is Simon...he was to polite to say 'con'man

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    I like to eat and read, if someone could figure a way to scribe my morning paper on a giant taco that would be awesome. Avoiding being scammed takes more than relying on the two corners of a smile as the only data points. If CHJ could be bothered to read newspapers she would know MAPS or its model are never mentioned, except in the context of being implicitly scorned by advertisers. UFUN is under worldwide investigation, no one earns 20% risk free every three months, and sending money to island nation mail drops financial suicide. It pains me to think what she might learn digging thorough some advertising trade journals.

    Sorry was that too negative?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Misguided scam drool
    I spent some time working in NYC where getting around by cab was one of the routine modes of transportation. Some of the guys and the odd lady had interesting stories to tell. Tough job The Deadliest Jobs in America | Bloomberg Business - Business, Financial & Economic News, Stock Quotes and many of the drivers were working 12 hour shifts six or seven days a week. Hardly the type or person I want to see ripped off in a money scam.

    Most drivers worked or leased from a larger company, a few I rode with owned their own medallion/license which could be bought or sold like any other investment. I always thought that sensible since it was a business they knew and could keep an eye on. Now ride shares puts the medallion in a different dynamic than the days when it limited the number of taxis in a city. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...hare/27314735/

    I suppose in a certain someone's world UBER would have never happened if you only went around the doubters. Or if you stay happy Deese's version of UBER can be bought in $50 increments that magically turn into $60 without the need to ever get behind the wheel.


    Andrew's fleeting success will prove very damaging to other working people he is roping into this scam. For now some are making money from the referral commission and a few from early withdrawals. One day that will grind to a halt, then poof. The people going all in will end up broke and driving longer and harder than they had to before. Not negative or clueless, simply how every scam like this ends. A wise investor demands hard verifiable data proving otherwise, knowing doubter stuff and payment proofs are meaningless.

    Wonder if is Andrew right, is MAPS really incredible?

    NO question in my mind MAPS is a Ponzi Scam, Zip, Zilch, Nada. That said, if I knew I could join and specifically lighten the wallets of the criminals behind this scam for a quick $12,000 I would. Problem is there is no way of knowing how long these scams last or where the money is coming from. No pleasure or need on my part to leave honest people holding an empty bag.

    Conversely, if I thought MAPS was real I would write a check and join, not like I don't get the emails. Clicking 10 ads per day could probably be worked into my web schedule with minimal disruption. Wouldn't be all that keen on recruiting, aint the team building type.

    Beyond bragging about illusory profits and panning jealous naysayers how much substance does the MAPs sales pitch contain?
    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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