Thread: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

And here is Danny himself, the new Head Prefect, reminding all the other children to play nicely:-

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Somebody asks him if he is a member of "corporate" but he says no, he is just an admin. Seems to be getting well dug in though, doesn't he? Taking over from Dickie Walletblaster as Simon's new sidekick and gofer by the looks of it.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

And here is Danny himself, the new Head Prefect, reminding all the other children to play nicely:-

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Somebody asks him if he is a member of "corporate" but he says no, he is just an admin. Seems to be getting well dug in though, doesn't he? Taking over from Dickie Walletblaster as Simon's new sidekick and gofer by the looks of it.

funny how the boobs just disappeared after their US trip.

of course he's taking a step backward.........he just handed his money to septic with a smile.
And I see septic suddenly needs glasses. Is this a set up for him to say he couldn't 'see' that maps was a ponzi? lol. I crack myself up.

Our favorite deluded Taxi Driver Andrew Walker has replied to poor old Dickies post.
Now he is at 1200 Ponzi point he is retiring this year.
Lets see how that goes shall we, if indeed it ever happens.

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Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Our favorite deluded Taxi Driver Andrew Walker has replied to poor old Dickies post.
Now he is at 1200 Ponzi point he is retiring this year.

Wanna bet ???

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Our favorite deluded Taxi Driver Andrew Walker has replied to poor old Dickies post.
Now he is at 1200 Ponzi point he is retiring this year.
Lets see how that goes shall we, if indeed it ever happens.

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now, if this didn't happen in the US, one might think the perpetual cabbie had come to his senses:

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Looks like the haterz and naysayers are getting their message out successfully......

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But as you can see, the ever resourceful Mappers have an answer for every question. Shame it's always the same answer of course, but there you go.

Glad to see our new favourite Canadian policeman is joining in, and with such a lovely snip of himself at work (?). I'm sure his superiors will love that!

Danny "Ozzy" Turner (in a snip not shown because really, it's too tedious to show them all; we all know what they are going to say before they say it) suggests inviting doubters to their events in order to meet various Mappers as that will convince them! An excellent idea in my view - it would certainly put me off forever.

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Originally Posted by Anna the Ponzi Banana

Looks like the haterz and naysayers are screwing up my roll

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Anna, you reply of course it's a Ponzi or MAPS participants would not have to spend all their time recruiting fresh funds. Then you move on to people stupid enough to think there is no relation between their money coming in the front and older Mappers taking it right out the back.


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I dream of the type of success and leisure Torq to Sabs must enjoy. My last only big accomplishment was having meemaw move the Chinese menu on her fridge to make room for a paint me did at day camp. Of course it's true story, here's the picture bitch ass doubters.

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What would prove to someone much smarter than me-self that MAPS is not a Ponzi would be independent reporting, not a bunch of story time on the interweb. Most people have some version of a retirement savings at work that they and/or their employer contribute to. In the US the statement process is managed by independent brokerage firms like Fidelity, Vanguard, or Charles Schwab. Money is deducted from a paycheck and deposited in the brokerage, from that point all dealings are handled through the broker. This set up largely prevents an employer from taking employee money, claiming they have funded a retirement account, and then spending said money on who knows what. (As happened with many a defined benefit plan lest anyone think concern jealously extends only to ad clicking bonanzas for those who dare take action.)

Conversely, every Ponzi in history played out having the person(s) claiming participants were making massive profits not only collecting the cash, but generating account statements, and handling withdrawals. Until funds dried up at least they handled the withdrawals.

Since MAPS is so big and going to be bigger, Deese needs to ditch the mail drop in Panama and have a major financial institution start managing all cash transactions. Let a bank with offices worldwide accept deposits, produce account statements, and process withdrawal requests. Shouldn't be a problem, after all MAPS isn't a Ponzi.

Ribshaw, you said:-

What would prove to someone much smarter than me-self that MAPS is not a Ponzi would be independent reporting, not a bunch of story time on the interweb.

Well, quite. We never see anything concrete, do we? We see people boasting of what they have bought with their MAPs "earnings", we see pictures of cars and watches, we read various stories about how people have reached diamond, ruby, emerald "level".......but we never see any proper audited accounts, we never see adverts from companies like Kraft or Cadbury, or indeed from any organisation that has a real product or service and is not another scheme of one sort or another. All we have is hearsay and information from people who are not disinterested, independent witnesses.

"Storytime on the interweb" just about sums it up.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

We never see anything concrete, do we? We see people boasting of what they have bought with their MAPs "earnings", we see pictures of cars and watches, we read various stories about how people have reached diamond, ruby, emerald "level"......

Taking Slimon's earnings claims of $1,700,000 as the gospel means $17,000,000 was pumped into MAPS coffers. With $17M how much skill does it take to toss some dosh around, honor a few check requests, and make people think something big is afoot? On Friday I spent a few hours catching up on some reading while watching a CNBC - Watch Full Episodes | CNBC | American Greed marathon. ALL Ponzi scams involve obtaining chunks of money and doling out payments from the chunks until gone.

Unfortunately for many this is all the "proof" they need.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

.but we never see any proper audited accounts

It's funny these folks hold themselves out to be "business person" or "entrepreneur" or "master commander of the interweb". Yet never demand much less offer anything one would expect a businessperson would want to see as proof of legitimacy.

This story broke last night, all those interested in MAPs might want to try a "Where's Waldo" and see if they can spot the similarities.

Geneva Whodunit Has Chinese Up in Arms Over*$1.2 Billion Lost in Alleged*Scam - Bloomberg Business

Not so ironically the same scam with a different name was discussed http://www.realscam.com/f8/http-secu...-account-3036/ well before it hit the presses:

Forex Investors May Face $1 Billion Loss as Trade Site Vanishes - Bloomberg Business

Audit schmaudit a cutesy saying is all the proof you need.

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so......I'm watching a show called 'How Do They Do It' on the Science Channel and they are showing how Vertu phones are made. And it made me wonder why septic poser has a fake gold iPhone and not one of these since they are made in England and cost what would be chump change to the chump. But I guess you can't just rent one for pics.

Steve Lorne - policeman by day, ponzi pimp by night.

I'm guessing this won't go down in history as being one of the smartest moves ever made by HYIP ponzi fraudsters trying to fly under the radar.

Posting on Facebook your current fraud is operating openly in the USA in the post Zeek Rewards and TelexFree regulatory climate is like pulling the tigers' tail without making sure the cage is locked.



From the MyAdvertisingPaysUK page on Facebook



The man himself: Ray Rodriguez on Facebook

Meanwhile, after a gap of more than a month, something has appeared on the MAPs official blog.

Can't pretend it was worth waiting for, as it isn't exactly informative, but one part did catch my eye. A new "compliance" department, and members being urged to grass up anyone who doesn't conform? Sounds a bit like Banners Broker re-run to me.

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Originally Posted by Della Cate

A new "compliance" department, and members being urged to grass up anyone who doesn't conform?

Shouldn't be too hard, just replace back office screenshots with cardboard checks, oh and don't use the "I" word.

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Priceless that this would be the quote right below his check picture:

"The fool judges his year by how much money he's made. The wise judges his year by the WISDOM he's gained."

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Meanwhile, after a gap of more than a month, something has appeared on the MAPs official blog.

Can't pretend it was worth waiting for, as it isn't exactly informative,

Every time there is an "update" unsaid unseen super important big things are happening in the background hushy hushy. Ironic that the next big recruiting event has already been planned and is being loudly promoted by Simon.

Can't wait for the next nebulous update.

Ooops! Over on SS's MAPs Fb page, someone has sneaked past the guards and posted this:-

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Made me laugh, and I thought it was worth preserving before someone spots it and takes it down.

Originally Posted by della cate

ooops! Over on ss's maps fb page, someone has sneaked past the guards and posted this:-

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made me laugh, and i thought it was worth preserving before someone spots it and takes it down.

Redeemed thyself, Lady Della

Anyone who has been around the HYIP ponzi arena for more than five minutes will recognize the criminals behind My Advertising Pays are rapidly moving into the final "desperation" phase of the ponzis' life.

As Della Cate has pointed out, the establishing of the new pseudo "compliance" department is a repeat of Zeek Rewards' failed effort to fool nervous members into thinking everything is A'OK with the legislators and law enforcement agencies already sniffing around.

How well did Zeek Rewards attempt at faking compliance using lawyer Kevin Grimes work out ????

In a word, DISASTROUSLY,

as reported on BEHINDMLM.com



You can view the original article here at BEHINDMLM.com and view the settlement agreement HERE with thanks to ASDFiles website

It turns out (just like in Banners Broker) the silly Mappers need to pay tax on their "profits" even though the "profits" are just numbers on a screen.

Let the debate begin!

I can't see any problem with paying the tax, after all the money really is there isn't it?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/SimonStepsysMyAdvertisingPaysMapsSuccessGroup/?pnref=lhc

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Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

It turn out (just like in Banners Broker) the silly Mappers need to pay tax on their "profits" even though the "profits" are just numbers on a screen.

Let the debate begin!

I can't see any problem with paying the tax, after all the money really is there isn't it?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/SimonStepsysMyAdvertisingPaysMapsSuccessGroup/?pnref=lhc

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Aw, Joe, no.... I hope not, but I fear you are right. I mean, we all know what they will start to say:-

"You don't need to pay tax until you actually withdraw the money" and "No tax is due while the money is still in your e-wallet"

Then someone will pop up and claim to be an accountant and either confirm or deny the above. Then "MAPs Corporate" (whoever they are) will pop up and say that MAPs does not give tax advice and members must seek out their own advice according to their own circumstances.

I could write the script myself now to save them all the bother!

Sooooo BORING.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

I could write the script myself now to save them all the bother!

It's like deja vu all over again isn't it.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Aw, Joe, no.... I hope not, but I fear you are right. I mean, we all know what they will start to say:-

"You don't need to pay tax until you actually withdraw the money" and "No tax is due while the money is still in your e-wallet"

Then someone will pop up and claim to be an accountant and either confirm or deny the above. Then "MAPs Corporate" (whoever they are) will pop up and say that MAPs does not give tax advice and members must seek out their own advice according to their own circumstances.

I could write the script myself now to save them all the bother!

Sooooo BORING.

that adam cotton already did. lol and this 'offer' seems discriminatory.

Originally Posted by Whip

that adam cotton already did. lol and this 'offer' seems discriminatory.

Yeah. Why has he singled out only Diamonds? I mean, they ALL have REAL money they need to protect, don't they?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

I mean, we all know what they will start to say:-

"You don't need to pay tax until you actually withdraw the money" and "No tax is due while the money is still in your e-wallet"

People sure do get their moneys worth out of Real Scam memberships. I won't speak for the whole world, but in the US all income is taxable regardless of withdrawn or left in the back office. If earnings are over $600 then a 1099 should have been issued by My Advertising Pays. Instructions for *Form 1099-MISC (2015)

Constructively-received income. You are generally taxed on income that is available to you, regardless of whether it is actually in your possession. What is Taxable and Nontaxable Income?


Hope the "Compliance Department" will be addressing this 18 months in.


Who am I kidding, people will turn to dust waiting for Booth to say anything of value. Here's another freebie as there is a lot of **** tax advice floating around the MLM industry.

Retail Industry ATG - Chapter 3: Examination Techniques for Specific Industries (Direct Sellers)

As an alternative...

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Meanwhile, our boy Simon isn't monitoring his other Fb pages particularly well (if at all). People are now posting some very unflattering comments about him, plus links to various other sites and online articles about MAPs. And they aren't adulatory sites and articles either, far from it. Some posts have been there for more than 6 months. Some for a couple of years. Just go and look at his pages for "Simons Stepsys Online Guru" and his Banners Broker Group. Very revealing.

One very active poster is one "Bellus Endus" who is especially vitriolic towards Simon (see below, some minor editing for some very choice language).

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Tee hee!