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    OK. I'm convinced; there are real advertisments, so where do I sign up?

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    I wonder if these companies know about it? Arsenal FC tours certainly didn't, they were quite clear that they didn't advertise with MAPs.

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    Er....can't see any of the above advertisers on the MAPs website front page, perhaps they are on page 2??

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    All I can see is ads for other rev share programmes, am I missing something?

    The little speech bubble with ??? in is my addition: as seen on (USA) TV?? Eh?

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    Yes quality ads Della, this is the type of thing you get redirected to when you log into your, My Advertising Pays Account.
    This page is... You guessed it promotes yet another scam.

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    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Not sure if there's and issue with uploading. Let's try again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jennyp123 View Post
    Not sure if there's and issue with uploading. Let's try again...

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    Gosh. They really are getting upset, aren't they? - the Mappers, I mean? And in response, they trot out the old favourites; people who criticise don't understand the business, they're jealous of the success of others, they have a grudge agaisnt un-named individuals who are already in the scheme, they have a scheme of their own to push, etc. They could end all the speculation and talk simply by answering questions that have been put to them (like the ones Jon Walsh posted to Tony Booth), by engaging in serious dialogue, by showing properly audited accounts - but they don't. They start indulging in name calling and making vague threats of "legal action" (anyone remember Banners Broker's "top legal team" that was going to deal with all the naughty people?), before banning people from sites and webpages wherein they have raised questions.

    So really, if the Mappers are having a problem with "naysayers", they ought to look and see where THEY have contributed to the issu,e and then take positive steps to address that issue.

    But from past expereince, I think all that will happen is more name calling and frankly silly posts like the one from Jets F above.

    Sigh.

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    re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

    Deja vue, anyone?

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    It's actually a comment on Ad Surf Daily which I found online; but goodness me, it does remind me of something......just cannot quite put my finger on it.......other people have said the same thing......whatever are we thinking about, can anyone remind me?

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    I'm not sure if this has been posted before, so apologies if it has.....

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    So yah boo sucks to all of you!

    (It's increasingly reminding me of the school playground)

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    they've already pulled the 'guaranteed visitor' scam. Which scam are they watching?
    Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.

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    So, you have a pizza shop in Albuquerque, New Mexico, you join My Advertising Pays and you get a guaranteed 4000 visitors to your website - from all over the world,

    Then what ??

    Substitute any product and any location and you'll get the same or similar results
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    re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

    One more Cat's Paw getting Simon his chestnuts.


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    Amazing how quick his fairytale unraveled when he tried his I'm a newbie garbage here.

    http://www.realscam.com/f9/my-advert...html#post83204

    Apparently the jealously started long before a lot of these "success stories" ever got suckered into MAPS.

    http://www.realscam.com/f8/serial-su...es-again-2829/

    Somewhat comical that the defense is always some version of the same Youtube videos and Facebook posts by affiliates how real MAPS is. Why isn't Deese all over this in the press? Surely a CEO with his advertising prowess could get some quality airtime.

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    re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

    Three jolly little postings to brighten a dull Monday:-

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    Question: How can anyone hope to have a reasoned debate with someone with the above attitude? It doesn't matter what anyone writes, or says, I don't read it or listen to it? WTF?

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    As far as I can see, it doesn't mean that any advertising was bought, or that anything is being advertised, it just means people have bought x number of "CREDIT PACKS"! (But it would be interesting to see how much actual money is sloshing about the system!)

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    Aw! Top Tips Man is one of my favourite Mappers!

    But as LRM says above, even if someone advertises their local pizza shop, it is meaningless if they don't get any increase in customers as a result. If the pizza shop is in London and you are mapping away in Newcastle, you are not going to ring up the pizza shop for a delivery, are you?

    Apologies if I have missed something!
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    again they are faced with the conundrum of why did you turn Jon Walsh away who was practically begging to join with real companies?
    Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post

    Question: How can anyone hope to have a reasoned debate with someone with the above attitude? It doesn't matter what anyone writes, or says, I don't read it or listen to it? WTF?

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    Try to Focus on the reasons you are jealous of Richard.

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    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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    The problem with affiliates like Money Burner, they think they are winning the game of Monopoly, in reality the are losing at Jenga. No matter what we the "haters" say, do, or feel the inevitable collapse is coming. Nevertheless, I certainly extend an invitation to any of them to come and write their thoughts here. Unlike on the MAPS channels their comments won't be deleted and they won't be blocked the way Tony Booth blocked Jon Walsh and yours truly.

    The question to Tony that got me blocked was how can MAPS not be an unregistered security and people recruiting others not be in violation of securites law. Securities Glossary, Securities Law Glossary, Securities Legal Glossary | Legal & Compliance, LLC Asked that question out of envy I did.

    As for cyber bullying, most people I chat with writing about scams have either been a victim, someone close to them was victimized, or they hate puppies. If people are breaking the law by illegally promoting an unregistered investment without a license we are doing them a favor by raising a yellow flag. Never mind trying to save people that will lose everything when this tumbles. Terribly thoughtless of us.

    On Walsh contacting Turner, does it strike anyone odd that a company allegedly selling advertising to outside vendors doesn't have a trained "affiliate" and commission structure in place to sell those ads? A $50 ad pack purchase pays 10% commission till the end of days, a $1,000,000 ad buy is done gratis? Even better, the representative gets blown off as a bully? TWICE???

    The "I'm just an affiliate" argument gets tired after years of busted scams from the leaders. Do people like Turner have no compunction about their lack of skill in doing proper due diligence before getting people to invest? Let's start with the first, where is the money owed affiliates being held, and prove it.

    Don't think anyone said Simon Stepsys should be in jail over a "silly advert", more like twenty years of Theft by Deception. As for Simon "never personally hurting anyone", the scams he promoted have bankrupted families. Moreover, many of the people he deceived had very little to lose. Simon's word means nothing, why he's Danny's buddy not mine.

    Danny says no one is "forced" to join, right they are "snookered" into thinking they can click 10 ads per day and get paid. But if they want the really big money, they need to snooker others so they can get a cut. Free to leave when they like, what they will not be free to do is get their money back when this thing crashes.
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    I know it'll never happen, but I have for years wished one of these silly people would follow through with their empty threats and get their complaint in front of a judge

    It would go down in history as one of the greatest anti scam events to have ever taken place

    Can you imagine the panic when the likes of Septic Simon Stepsys and the Booths realized their activities were about to be exposed to the world in a courtroom ???
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    Oooh, look, a new excuse for the hiccup in the London events recently.......

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    It was all because of 'elf and safety! Nothing to do with the fact that the hotels concerned refused to have you there then??

    (And I am staying "tunned" (sic) - whatever that is - it sounds kind of fun!)

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    LOL, as long as "staying tunned" doesn't have anything to do with weight!!!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post


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    Aw! Top Tips Man is one of my favourite Mappers!

    But as LRM says above, even if someone advertises their local pizza shop, it is meaningless if they don't get any increase in customers as a result. If the pizza shop is in London and you are mapping away in Newcastle, you are not going to ring up the pizza shop for a delivery, are you?

    Apologies if I have missed something!
    Google has a team that do targeted ads for business owners. Sales & Account Management - Google Careers If someone Googles Pizza, they get ads for hot pizza in a box, not MAP in a Box down on the 4 Corners Scamway. You are spot on.


    Just like all the Google events in hotel basements, a few more recruiting meetings going make these folks rich...


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    Many more events happening all over the world.

    This is just the start!

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    Get to the Next MAP Event get your tickets here...

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    From Simon's latest email, still with the "," very professional.

    The advertiser can buy these real visitors for just $34,99 for 1,000 people looking at his site.

    OMG! WOW!


    1. Why would a business owner pay $39.99 for 1000 people to click, when they could pay $99.98 for two packs, get 1000 clicks, get all their money back, make $7 get $3 in banner ads????

    I can't think of a single reason they would, hence little to no outside advertising, just people thinking they scored extracting from a diminishing pool of money.

    2. If someone purchases 1200 Credit Packs for $60,000 those mature for $72,000 over 100 days of clicking 10 ads. MAPS is charging $39.99 for those 1000 clicks, where does the other $11960.01 in goodies come from? Or are there some super targeted ads that cost $12 per click keeping Pizza shops rolling in the dough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Oooh, look, a new excuse for the hiccup in the London events recently.......

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    It was all because of 'elf and safety! Nothing to do with the fact that the hotels concerned refused to have you there then??

    (And I am staying "tunned" (sic) - whatever that is - it sounds kind of fun!)
    and, of course, no it's not. the hotel would have prevented the extra people to be there as they would have gotten in trouble. It would be no different than an at capacity bar. And if it was really their event, why wait til now to post it when these turds can't post bullshit fast enough.
    Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.

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    Interesting info...Dave Finney has de-activated his Facebook page and has been reported to us as 'disappeared'. This is the guy who gave up his job to work full-time at MAPS and has been in videos with Simon and photographs with various other MAPS leaders. Curious eh?

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    Dave Finneys' dave.finney.37 Facebook page still seems to be there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    and, of course, no it's not. the hotel would have prevented the extra people to be there as they would have gotten in trouble. It would be no different than an at capacity bar. And if it was really their event, why wait til now to post it when these turds can't post bullshit fast enough.
    Well, of course, Whip, no venue will allow their room capacity to be exceeded. Not just because of 'elf and safety, also fire regulations and premises licencing. Though the room does seem pretty full to me.

    But I think it is a photo of an event of theirs. I can see several Mappers whom I recognise, including Richard Mead (tall, grey hair, standing behind the chap in the blue shirt in the foreground); also I recognise the chap at the front extreme right, and the lady with the long blonde hair. It's them. Just sometimes takes them a bit longer to think of something I reckon!

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    "MAPS IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST THING AFTER FACEBOOK AND GOOGLE..."

    NO, IT'S NOT, DANNY!

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    Because how often do Facebook and Google base their strategy on "getting more referrals than you can handle"?

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    I LOVE the way they often say (I'm paraphrasing here): "well, we know there's scams out there, but we aren't amongst them, you can trust us, we;ve been bitten by scams before and that's whay MAPs was created"

    Actually, to me, the reverse is true. If you've picked bad 'uns before, how can I be sure you haven't picked a bad 'un again? Why should I trust someone with such bad judgement?

    I've found this to be a very interesting site: A (MLM) Skeptic, with this an especially good article. Lots of good stuff on that site and fascinating reading. Applying it to what I now know, it really rings true.

    A (MLM) Skeptic: Scam Psychology: How does a scam encourage people to adopt a lost cause?

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