Thread: LUCKY5 online "scratchcards"

Hello Everyone :-) Good to see , You will be pleased to know that the UK gambling commission are all over this, they are currently investigating it as it is clear to them that something is very wrong, along with the fact that they should have a licence for the UK! they even referred to it as a Ponzi Scheme, staying with that thought the UK National Fraud squad : Search | Action Fraud - Were very interested in this and are also taking action as they also referred to it as a Ponzi

On another note someone has set up this group on Facebook called LUCKY 5 Scam Warning , to make people aware of some facts because that is where they ( the Leaders ) are activity promoting lucky5 - go and have a look : - https://www.facebook.com/bewarelucky5?fref=ts


This has been going on for months - delays in launch - reasons are flaky and the same excuses used - payment processors etc / if its a multi national company or a global company as has been promised in the webinars - they would already have relationships with existing payment processors !

I think it was just to keep the momentum up to keep recruiting, get the numbers up, at the end of the days is just a numbers game how many people can they get to actually give them 30 euros a month plus the 8.50 euros they wanted just to get your Wire Card debit card to draw your money out of cash points or spend where you see the visa master card sign, you get my drift ( email and telephone call - Wire Card have not heard of Lucky5 or DailyWins N.V or Lucky5casino )

Yes maybe they may pay out a few people, but the winnings they have been promising is unachievable, we were told one in the webinars that this global company who ever they may be had spent lots of money setting this up ( look at the web site lucky5.com does this scream multi national company!! ) they apparently have put money in the prize pot but they don't want to announce who this big company is !! How very strange !! I would take the bet that the " Leaders " Will or would have gained far more money out of this venture than the normal person down the chain

We were all told once it was a company called TAIN behind this and they they owned DailyWins and Lucky 5 - TAIN are a platform and service B2B supplier - that was later revoked by one of the leaders an admission of incorrect information - How can you get that sort of information wrong ! - are they just flying by the seat of their pants and trying to fob people off WHO IS REALLY BEHIND LUCKY5 ?????

Well there are allot of questions to be answered about the " Leaders " I dont know exactly who they are or where they fit in to all this, I can only go on what has been found -

Read this article: - Fraud lotto firm Information Technology Systems axed - Mirror Online and another good read - far better odds on the lottery for less money
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these people below in no particular order are associated with Lucky5 in some way - but SOME are also associated or linked in some way to the scams and High court action mentioned in the above links - Thats quite a coincidence ! but dont forget INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY ! we cant accuse anyone we have to wait for the authorities to finish their investigations :-) it could all turn out to be 100% legitimate, or not !

Len Fitzgerald
Ian Orford
Tom De Wilde
Neil Verlander
Chris Henry
Frank Verheecke
Paul Bradbury
Paul Monks
Malcolm Horsey
Paul Veverka
Tom Brodie
Bill Ashcroft
Adrian Hibbert
Sacha Liddiard
Neil & Joy Spare
Paul Marriott
Lorraine Salmon

too many more to mention. . . . .


Did I mention the Licence issue, he is a snippet from facebook page Lucky 5 Scam warning:

" The Gaming Commission. These guys were contacted about a week before Lucky 5 was due to launch a few weeks ago. They hadn't heard of Lucky 5 but said they would look into it. Within hours they confirmed that it was illegal and pointed us to the following two laws of which Lucky 5 contravened. Gambling Act 2005
Gambling Act 2005
They informed us that they would be contacting those involved to shut it down. Interestingly two days later, Lucky 5 announced there would be a weeks delay. During this time, a brand new company was set up (Dailywins NV) and their "licence" was moved from Malta to Curaçao "

Plenty more information coming through from various sources

https://www.facebook.com/bewarelucky..._bubble&_rdr=p

Entirely predictably:



The Beware Lucky5 page on Facebook

It's about now victims of the Lucky5 Scratchcard fraud need to start protecting themselves.

* If they have used a credit card, they need to institute chargeback proceedings with their credit card company.

* It is now time to make sure their bank and / or credit card company blocks any further automatic deductions by Lucky5

* They need to ask themselves if they are comfortable with any personal / bank details which they may have disclosed to Lucky5 or any of its' pimps

The signs of Lucky5s' imminent collapse are there and should not be ignored



The Beware Lucky5 page on Facebook

Still nothing has come back from the ever elusive " Company ", the last update was on 28/7 people are reporting their support tickets are not being responded to, negative comments are being deleted from groups. Why if this is a multi national global giant or whatever word they use, dose not answer tickets, no answers to peoples questions, no answers to the reasons the information in the webcasts dose not seem to be true ?? I see on the FB page lucky 5 scam warning, they have posted screen shots of the webcast, stating registered in Malta, then the hype about the multi national giant, they even put a little chart on how sweet !!! its been reported that the T & C from bwin .com are very similar, ive not read in detail but i have looked and i do think they are similar, may just be a coincidence ........ (bwin already sell virtual scratch cards)

Excellent comment from " Little Roundman " on the FB Page, I think some one said they had already called the mirror, the same reporter who run the report back in 2011 on the vwd scam, oh yeah get this, the guy you called out on FB said that vwd was a successful company and lasted 8 years HA HA HA It was still fraud, why else would they be forced buy the high court to close !!!

Todays' Lucky5 promoter has taken it upon himself to be the unofficial Facebook spokesperson as well.

Goodness, how many times do we have to suffer through the same ol', same ol' ad hominem attacks, strawman arguments and "you're anonymous, so you're not credible" insults from operators and promoters of shady and / or illegal programmes ???

We give you ANDY SMITH and some examples of his best work from the Beware Lucky5 Facebook page

First the man himself:

( I know, I know - yet another example of someone using his grandchildren to foster an image of trustworthiness while simultaneously promoting multiple shady opportunities "behind the curtain")



Andy Smiths' AndySmithMLM page on Facebook









Some examples of Andy Smith doing his darndest to divert attention away from the fact he's actively promoting a soon-to-collapse-before-it-even-launches scam

www.lucky5.com - Domain Names - Plot IP

are any of you technical :-) I dont understand, I read it as one server hosting this site based in Henfield West Sussex ???

Host Details: lucky5.com

IP Address:
217.147.87.89
IP Block:
217.147.87.80 - 217.147.87.95
Reverse DNS:
217.147.87.89
Host:
Steve McIntyre's ADSL
Henfield, West Sussex, GB
Location:
Henfield, West Sussex, GB
Page Load Time:
1.568 secs.
Server Type:
nginx
- See more at: www.lucky5.com - Domain Names - Plot IP

Good Afternoon, readers.

Here's the latest "update" from Lucky5.



Your mission, should you decide to accept it is to read the update to see if those behind it are telling you anything concrete or whether they are simply feeding their members with froth and bubble news about things that "may" or "could" happen at some point in the future and none of which make any material difference to members' money making potential anyway.

Hmmnn,

I guess this answers any potential victims members' questions about Tain Online Gambling platforms' involvement with Lucky5.

SIGH,

some things never change, do they ???

More of the same ol', same ol' "You're just jealous" yada, yada, "You're only badmouthing Lucky5 so you can push something else" waffle, waffle "Let's ignore the message and shoot the messenger" mumble, mumble "Let's construct a giant StrawMan and destroy it, instead of concentrating on the real issues"





Neil Spares' neil.spare.3 page on Facebook

Beware Lucky5 Scam on Facebook

TO THE SO CALLED SCAM SITES, ENSURE THAT WHEN YOU POST THIS SCREEN GRAB THAT YOU DO IT ACCURATELY.

Or what ???

You'll put your hands on your hips, hold your breath until you turn blue and stamp your foot ???

there's no need to do it 'inaccuarately'. they are hilarious on there own.