Thread: How legit is EZ Wealth Solution? Kathleen Vanbeekom Promoter

Out of the mouths' of babes:

Originally Posted by Kathleen

because if someone directly under you is only at level 2, for example, and someone joins under them at all 5 levels, that person only gets the $97 and the $1,741 rolls up to you,

pyramid SCHEME

'nuff said.

I joined EZ Wealth Solution on approximately the same day RealScam opened, and I've generated approximately $80,000 and MOST of it was thru my own efforts, because MOST members don't take the actions daily to get tour-takers to their sites. In 16 months, I earned a great income mostly because of myself, and RealScam and all the other scam sites haven't shut EZWS down, because IT WORKS the way it says it works for people who put in an effort.

The person at Level 2 can upgrade at any time, using their income from EZWS, that's how it works. If they are pulling in $97's, they can eventually put that money toward upgrading to Level 3 for $247 so they can then earn $247's (or $344s for 2&3 together) and put that toward upgrading to Level 4 for $497 and earn $497's ($841 for the total of 2,3,4) and put that toward upgrading to Level 5 for $997 and then be able to earn up to the full combination over $1,800 when people order all 5 package levels thru them. People can start with the free Level 1 and work their way up by using their incoming commissions. It's a powerful system that people can get free entry into and earn their way forward.

It is a math game pure and simple. How many people on the bottom have to pay in and lose their money for the top guys like you to profit??? Simple math. I would say conservatively 97% in a pyramid scheme pay in and lose money plus face the possibility of losing thousands more promoting these sleazy deals from having calculated the loss rates for some of these deals. Prove me wrong.



Soapboxmom

There's no bottom, it's all infinity paylines. Anyone can make their way to the top at any time, they can earn their way to the top gradually or pay for all 5 package levels immediately when they join and be at the top, then start earning full commissions after passing up the qualifying sales per level, just like I did, everyone knows that BEFORE they join. Nobody is being taken advantage of, they can watch the pay plan videos and read the compensation plan as many times as they want before they join, it's actually mandatory that everyone watch the pay plan videos before being allowed to join.

Originally Posted by Kathleen

and I've generated approximately $80,000 and MOST of it was thru my own efforts,

Andy Bowdoin generated USD $80 MILLION most of it was through his own efforts,

Bernard Madoff generated around USD $65 BILLION most of it was through his own efforts

AND ?????

Generating income proves what, exactly ??

Lottery clubs are illegal, whether they generate income or not.

Pyramid schemes are illegal, whether they generate income or not.

Come to think of it, wouldn't things be a lot easier if all scams DIDN'T generate income ??

That's what makes a scam a scam, otherwise people wouldn't bother to do them.

kcvan, you should write a book, maybe several about internet marketing because you are so well informed. Then, you could market that book and make a fortune the legal way.

Trying to put the blame on Scratchycat to make yourself feel better is just another way of exposing yourself to the world. I have been in cat fights before, everyone gets hurt and nothing is solved.

I would like to see all Scumbags and Crooks who take money from suckers be put behind bars or at least where they cannot suck the blood from their victims. Crooks are breaking the law and should be judged by the law.

But keep it coming, I feel sure lots of folks are enjoying this.

Originally Posted by kcvan2011

If people on this site don't want to discuss ALP, why are some ALP members names here all thru this site, even in other threads, who are not even involved in any businesses?

I was invited to open a thread about Adland as it is a ponzi promoting forum. If Bogdan doesn't police the forum and allows scams like freefood2go, autoxten, and EZ that is his bad luck.

There are some very interesting people in Adland Kathleen such as http://community.adlandpro.com/members/356643.aspx

Was fixing to close down but saw this and just had to come post it. Seems to tell a lot about certain people and I don't mean members of this community.

I just decided to stop in and show my gratitude on behalf of all parties
for the support you and other members of this forum have shown us!

As I was reading through your forum posts, I was wondering if anyone
would finally expose Judy Horton for the miserable busy body she is.
If Jim hadn't, i would have here today and if you go look at her scam
forum, you will see that she totally has all her facts screwed up!

eg; John Kielec & Maurice Bernier are the same person.
John Kielec was dying.

These people are only jealous because they don't know how to create
success online and channel their energies into attacking those that are!

This woman was even attacking Bogdan at one point and he was made
aware of it this past summer when I contacted him.

Judy Horton became aware of me when I went into her forum and challenged
her with the actual facts. In particular, the over 200 posts at the time where
our members had already announced being paid. Guess they aren't real either
I told her! lol

Anyway, the bottom line is this:

I doubt she has much time left on this good earth and the supporters she had
(Other Busy Bodies) at the time were only 3 or 4 in total.

Ignoring these types of people are usually the best way to deal with them since
they are only out seeking much needed attention because of the lack of love
in their lives.

Eventually, they will have to answer for the damage they do to a higher power.
I for one can't wait till that day comes since they also hurt our members in the
process!

Thanks once again all of you for your support and kind words,


Maurice

I don't even know Maurice except he is in my friends list. F5M surely looks to be nothing but what has been said here.

There is more trash if anyone cares to read it. This community keeps being referred to!!
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For me, little ruffed up kittycat, I am giving it a rest. Better things to do as all has come to light just as we would have wanted.

Originally Posted by scratchycat

Was fixing to close down but saw this and just had to come post it. Seems to tell a lot about certain people and I don't mean members of this community.


I don't even know Maurice except he is in my friends list. F5M surely looks to be nothing but what has been said here.

There is more trash if anyone cares to read it. This community keeps being referred to!!
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For me, little ruffed up kittycat, I am giving it a rest. Better things to do as all has come to light just as we would have wanted.

Bernier's F5Mmillionaires club. Joke of the day and Bachman's Mountain of Love. Nothing more needs to be said about Scamlandpro,

Kathleen

RE: If We SEE SOMETHING, We're Going To SAY SOMETHING 10/14/2011 1:24:16 PM

Hi Peter, When members here realize that a couple of people, a current member and former member, are taking aim at people in this community, and the community as a whole, throwing darts at us from across the internet, just to get their jollies, I think this place will start to wake up very quickly. No one is safe from that, and the "rules" of that other place are not enforced about "no personal attacks or name calling" because we could go thru post by post by post and make a long list of attacks and names against me while I was there, and probably happened to Maurice and others in other threads. I was called a "culprit" in the first post, I asked at least twice since then WHY, I asked THERE and HERE and still have had no explanation to the "culprit" accusation within WEEKS. Because I am NOT a "culprit". Does the Admin of that scam site DO anything to enforce her own rules? NO. Kathleen RE: If We SEE SOMETHING, We're Going To SAY SOMETHING 10/14/2011 1:56:44 PM Everyone in this entire community AND at Adlanders In Facebook need to have the GUTS to stand up to that person and let her know this community is NOT her personal dartboard, we're all not going to sit idly by and let one or two people deliberately and constantly take aim at numerous members while they stand back in their anonymous dark places, one of which has now had a spotlight turned toward it, aiming at random hits & misses of any name they feel like spewing out on their poison keyboards. Remember, that's only ONE scam site where they've posted names of numerous Adlandpro Community members, there are probably many more that we haven't even found yet. That person needs to be kept in a constant spotlight, the same way that unsuspecting members here have had done to us. What's a name for that behavior? Multi counts of cyber-stalking? EXCLUSIVE: Only HERE at ADLANDPRO! Cutting Thru The Myths About EZ WEALTH SOLUTION! What's New At Whammy Forum? What's With USA? TOP-RATED BIZ/AD FORUM in the Community: List All Your Biz Sites Here! New Reply

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Kathleen,

You are posting in a public forum for anyone across this planet to read. People reading and commenting on your drivel cannot possibly be construed as cyberstalking. If you choose to publicly advertise an obvious scam under your own name, you should not be surprised to find you are being publicly called out for it. Your scamming goon friend calling himself Walt Bayliss of some Team Bayliss has been melting down in my e-mail box. He outright lied and said he needed information for law enforcement. Trying to BS me doesn't work.

Threatening our members won't get you anywhere either scammers. Someone is certainly in the spotlight. Congratulations on drawing lots more attention to your pyramid scheme, Kathleen. And, if any more of your clown patrol wants to send more threatening and lie-filled e-mails I will be happy to publish them and respond right here on the thread.

Soapboxmom

I.R.S. ?????

Tax paid ??

Income declared ???

After reading this thread two things come out clearly.

1. The "business" called EZ Wealth Solution that was asked about is an illegal business with a ponzi structure - and it is irrelevant whether someone has made money out of it. LRM and others have already pointed out that so did Maddoff and Bowdoin. In Bowdoin's case, other people further down the line made money. It didnt make their businesses legal either. A lot of people lost money (though in the case of ASD, the US Government rescued part of the ill gotten gains and were able to return the victims their investments) and they always will.

Illegal means illegal, and the argument about infinite downlines doesn't stick due to the "minor" issue of saturation of markets. Real businesses make and sell products and services with intrinsic value without the need of downlines to survive or profit. It doesnt matter what your motivation is if you participate in an illegal business, you are breaking the law and ignorance of the law is no defence. Period.

2. The AdlandPro story is that of a group of people who joined an internet marketing community trying to make money online, usually for the first time. Adland Pro does and always has permitted the promotion of illegal internet schemes on its board. It also has a "warm fuzzy" social side that gives people a "friendly place to go". Meanwhile every major scam and a large number of the minor ones are introduced there and picked up by their stooges, the popular members, and promoted to the ignorant and sometimes needy. It is good to see one of them come over here and try to defend their program (albeit without success. lol),as it means that there is more googleable information out of the web. Threats to sue are amusing - have they never heard of Discovery?

However, although this thread is of great value to anyone who passes by, or follows a link to it, if your concern is the promotion of EZ Wealth or any other scam on AdlandPro, the place to post the information is over there, in order to warn its own members.

Adland Pro (and its owner) is just another facilitator of illegal schemes, and always has been, just as are MMG, TG and a long list of etceteras. Most of the founders and major promoters of illegal schemes have been or are members, including the background men and women who dream them up and whose names you probably wouldntg even recognise. (Patrick Pretty has several articles on what he refers to as the Steroidal Puppeteers) It's only difference is its "warm fuzzy" style and the fact that there are a lot of naive newbies there.

If anyone thinks that they can "clean up" AdlandPro, they need to look to the owner who controls the content of the board and its membership. Many have tried and failed and for reasons that are abundantly clear. That is not the role of THIS Board. It is here to clarify what is or isnt a scam. Anyone is free to take the information here and post it (with it's source so that it can be verified) wherever they think fit.

Of course information on scams would be usefully posted (with all the relevent links to hard information) on Adland Pro and any other ponzi board . "For some reason" people who try to do so have met with no success. (in many instances even less than on TG and MMG!) so maybe they should ask themselves why? It seems to me to be irrelevant if Mrs X or Mr Y are promoting the illegal schemes. First of all you need to ascertain that the schemes are scams and then wonder why they are allowed to promote them over at AdlandPro. Today it is one person, tomorrow it will be another, but the intrinsic problem is not the name of the "scammer du jour" but the fact they are allowed to make their home there. The owner is no fool and is alleged to have made himself wealthy. He is hardly a "vcitim" so......go figure.?

p.s. it should not be forgotten that the "warm and fuzzy" side of AdlandPro has been the part that brought in traffic (including some very pleasant people) . The "nasty" scammy side of Adland Pro is the part that makes money. Clever when you think about it. Maybe MMG and TG should have a little social club or photo section to increase their traffic and bring in some gullible newbies/non internet marketers too.

Originally Posted by Lil Ol' Radical Me

If your concern is the promotion of EZ Wealth or any other scam on AdlandPro, the place to post the information is over there, in order to warn its own members.

You know that is impossible LORM. The thread owners simply delete anything that interferes with their plans. Plenty of scam busters have no desire to join Adlandpro to have comments deleted. Some of us who have been members (me included) are banned.

Scams posted on MMG, TG and MCFs are discussed here and so are the names of serial scammers like Russo, stosdegoz and 10bucks up. I am not going to go into Adlandpro and tell their members that people like Vonbeencom and Carl Haavaldson are scammers.

Kathleen has tried denying it without success here but Carl keeps silent. Did you know that this man made videos for manelo/strosdegoz? I have told members where to find links to prove Carl is strosgegoz' video maker here on TG, MMG and on MCFs. Suggesting that I keep that information to myself is a bit dippy, if you will excuse the expression.

You know that is impossible LORM. The thread owners simply delete anything that interferes with their plans. Plenty of scam busters have no desire to join Adlandpro to have comments deleted. Some of us who have been members (me included) are banned.

Judy that is precisely my point, and not one that needs making to many of the members of this board. The post was directed more at those people who still have a hope that AdlandPro can be "cleaned up" and turned into a happy place with no scams AND that, by some miracle THIS board will directly be the place to sort it out. All the members of this board can do is discuss the individual schemes and provide an opinion as to whether or not they are illegal or unethical, etc. and give their opinion on the overall nature of the AdlandPro board and hope that people within that community will make sure people are aware of the information.

The major difficulty so far seems to be not the fact that AdlandPro has no interest in allowing dissenting voices about the junk they promote there but that there are still people in there who believe the place is full of lovely people who mean no harm mixed up with a few bad guys. It is in fact what it's owner wants it to be. Once people understand this, then they "get it"

I would like to thank SBM and the admin and members who have supported me in this. It is not something I would have asked to happen. I am not sure what set off alarms but they were and I was threatened in an email. Then discovered someone was trying to verify my identity.

While some of you are used to this happening, I am not. I have learned a lesson or two from this. As far as I am concerned the matter is over and done with here. At least SC is taking a little break.

Kathleen RE: If We SEE SOMETHING, We're Going To SAY SOMETHING

10/17/2011 12:17:30 PM

I'd like to publicly ask her right HERE to give her password from that scam site to a mutual friend of both of ours, someone we both agree that is absolutely trustworthy and nonbiased to either of us, and ask if he will go there and delete that thread. If she's not willing to give her password to a mutually nonbiased friend just so we can all find out if it IS deletable or NOT as she has said it's not...then we'll all know if she's telling the truth. If she's not willing to give her password, then that issue will speak for itself.

Kathleen, you are clearly delusional. You can edit your own posts here for up to ten minutes. Unless there is a court order or an administrator feels there is just cause for an edit or delete, it isn't going to happen. Naming a scammer who advertises him or her self publicly and commenting is appropriate and perfectly inline with the rules and purpose of this site. You, Kathleen, have chosen to make yourself public.

No one in their right mind would ever give you or one of your cronies their password. If you want to keep generating negative publicity for your scam, I will be happy to keep giving you the rope to hang yourself.


And, it is obvious to everyone else that threatening our members won't do you any good as they don't have the moderator privileges necessary to do anything. So, why do you insist on harassing someone to do something they clearly cannot do? I take it threatening people really floats your boat, huh Kathleen? That is a sure fire way to scare away the recruits. They should be very worried that you may threaten them and file frivolous lawsuits to harass them as you are clearly demonstrating that is your focus.

Soapboxmom

However, although this thread is of great value to anyone who passes by, or follows a link to it, if your concern is the promotion of EZ Wealth or any other scam on AdlandPro, the place to post the information is over there, in order to warn its own members.

LORM, that is exactly what I did and this is what happened. Most of it I deleted because some other members wanted me to stop her trash remarks being posted. She is now banned from that forum.
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I do alert members about online scam and fraud. All I can do is post the information, if they use it or not is up to them. I have noticed a recent post must have made at least one person aware as they have dropped the link from signature. There are few replies but numbers from viewing are high and that tells me someone is looking.

Now that Scratchycat has been exposed, she is taking a beating in Kathleen's Slander Forum.

This thread was about EZ Wealth and is it legit, well I believe that has been proven by members here and affirmed by the promoter herself. It should be on every Google Page by now. I will check. Your opinion is appreciated and noted.

I'd like to publicly ask her right HERE to give her password from that scam site to a mutual friend of both of ours, someone we both agree that is absolutely trustworthy and nonbiased to either of us, and ask if he will go there and delete that thread. If she's not willing to give her password to a mutually nonbiased friend just so we can all find out if it IS deletable or NOT as she has said it's not...then we'll all know if she's telling the truth. If she's not willing to give her password, then that issue will speak for itself.

SBM, thank you. That made me laugh also. Yes, I think I will just post my username and password on Google, FB, Adland, etc.!!! She will be on the Soapbox (no pun intended) for months now and I am always a good object of attack. She is now joined by another of her "friends". They only show up when it comes to trashing little ole Scratchycat. I hope it is at least gaining RS some recognition as being one of the better scam-busting communities!!

Straight out of Internet Fraud 101:

let's not talk about lottery clubs being illegal.

Let's not talk about the fact EZ Wealth Solutions doesn't have viable products.

Let's not talk about the IRS and not declaring income.

Let's not talk about the hundreds of scams being advertised on AdLandPro.


Noooooooooooooo,

let's talk about Scratchycat,

let's talk about how much money someone can rip o.........err........make selling nonsensical e-books and worthless "tools"

Integrity ??

Ethics ???

They're something for someone else to talk about.

Instead we'll talk about how unfair it is the nasty, bad people keep pointing out what we do is illegal and immoral

I have asked a member to get in touch with RS admin to reset my original password. Somebody seems to be interested in getting RS members' passwords and has not suceed. My local computer systems engineers scratched their heads when they could not find my passwords folder or get into read RealScam of PatrickPretty on two of my computers. They could read everything on their system and finding the trojan in one of mine posed no problem to them. What it did achieve was to get the best computer hardware and software enginers in SW London to bookmark RS and PatrickPretty web sites then they had a good snigger at Kathleen's expense! The winner of the war with Katleen and "scratcycat" is becoming as good as "Korky the Cat" and "Desperate Dan" in the old "Beano" and "Dandy" comics..

Katleen,

You said that you joined EZ around the time that RS was launched. I had been in EZscams for a lot longer than that. I joined one called EZsurfnearn or something similar in 2003-2005.

You could be a lot of use to this communiity if you change tack and help find all the dirt on two of the original EZscammers, a husband and wife team known as Jason and Stacey. When that started they set up as something else which was (I think) foundation 1, 2,3 and4.

If you would turn your hand to scam research and help trace the history of EZ, you would not be joke of the day.

I can not remember how much of my "betting money" I had put on EZ but it was enough to hurt. I have never bought a lottery ticket in my life so I can not comment on the lottery program you pedal.

Somebody called "wiseowl" AKA "Barb" from Australia used on of her puppets to get me into EZ. I have a picture of Barb on another RS thread. She is not a desirable associate.

If you used your common sense and realised that the owner of Adland is in deep --it without a paddle and swallowed a little humble pie, I would be one who would have no desire to rub your nose in mistakes of the past and I am sure that "scratcycat" would not punish another "girl" who can be very catty and a bit of a bitch at times.

p2p, you are wasting your time even trying to get through to this person. She has gone viral and has the support of Adland Administration. I am the bad little kitty cat. This is not my first battle with these 5 people but it might be my last one in ALP. They hesitate to call me by my own name, that would be breaking the rules, so now they have an avatar and scratchycat name to use.

Just from listening to her own statements, EZ Wealth is a pryamid scheme. I remember when those things started and I thought I could make some money. HA! It takes the guts and drive, and to have no conscience when deceiving other people by telling them they will make lots of money. I was never in EZWealth Solution but I did play a lottery ticket that was free from one of the ads. So I did not lose any money on that one.

But be warned Scam-busters and crime fighters, her new info today is posted in that thread and she is going to get a law passed to take care of all of us. Who knows in today's world, she might win. I am rather tired of EZ Wealth and Lotto Magic, I believe with all the publicity the legal agencies overseeing internet crime have picked up on it.

Of course, you can be sure we will be hearing more.

Originally Posted by scratchycat

She is going to get a law passed to take care of all of us. Who knows in today's world, she might win. I am rather tired of EZ Wealth and Lotto Magic, I believe with all the publicity the legal agencies overseeing internet crime have picked up on it. Of course, you can be sure we will be hearing more.

She is going to get a law passed. HOW IS THAT?

In UK a back bench MP can bring a private member's bill and get it through lower and upper Houses of Parliament, if nobody of any consequence opposes it. How can Kathleen get a law passed in US?

She isn't a MP. The support of Adpro admin is worth sweet "Fanny Adams" so how does she propose to get a law passed. Any interesting Adpro belches from "Our Kathleen?