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    re: How legit is EZ Wealth Solution? Kathleen Vanbeekom Promoter

    Judy, regrettably, reporting the advertising of a scam to the ASA may stop the advertising in one country in Europe, but it wont stop the scam itself. That is a matter for law enforcement and they are the ones with limited resources.

    Don't see the mystery about not being able to read a forum - the IP was blocked. Full stop. If someone doesnt want someone else to read their forum, maybe they have something to hide, and, as you rightly say, it isnt difficult to read it from another IP address. Owners of forums as well as posters sometimes forget that their forums are on the very public internet. EZ Wealth is being promoted on the internet, ergo it is being promoted in the public domain. It will be difficult to promote it on the one hand and hide it from public view on the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil Ol' Radical Me View Post
    Judy, regrettably, reporting the advertising of a scam to the ASA may stop the advertising in one country in Europe, but it wont stop the scam itself. That is a matter for law enforcement and they are the ones with limited resources.

    Don't see the mystery about not being able to read a forum - the IP was blocked. Full stop. If someone doesnt want someone else to read their forum, maybe they have something to hide, and, as you rightly say, it isnt difficult to read it from another IP address. Owners of forums as well as posters sometimes forget that their forums are on the very public internet. EZ Wealth is being promoted on the internet, ergo it is being promoted in the public domain. It will be difficult to promote it on the one hand and hide it from public view on the other.
    That is the reason why I logged into Adland to search for British people who were promoting it. The ASA is investigating one of the programs promoted there and when I get any news on that, I will be free to tell you the result.

    There are a lot of British Adlanders promoting 5FMillionaires Club. You could report those to ASA. We may only be one country in Europe but if non British nationals join in and report these people it will help with the destruction of forums like Adland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by path2prosperity View Post
    That is the reason why I logged into Adland to search for British people who were promoting it. The ASA is investigating one of the programs promoted there and when I get any news on that, I will be free to tell you the result.

    There are a lot of British Adlanders promoting 5FMillionaires Club. You could report those to ASA. We may only be one country in Europe but if non British nationals join in and report these people it will help with the destruction of forums like Adland.
    As admirable as your intentions may be, that's simply not true.

    It's simply not feasible for an advertising regulator to force a non British based forum off the 'net.

    British readers would be far better advised to petition their local member/s to force the establishment of a 'net based investigative and/or prosecution agency.

    Britain is notorious worldwide for its' almost non existent cyber crime facilities.

    Do a Google on "report crime online Britain" and you'll see exactly what I mean.

    The independent UK charity, Crimestoppers has a better internet presence and reporting facilities than the UK police or FSA
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    It's simply not feasible for an advertising regulator to force a non British based forum off the 'net.
    I know that LRM but if British advertisers get scared and stop promoting these scams on Adlandpro, it is less revenue for the owner. The loss of revenue could force him to change his ways and ban the promoters or close down voluntarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    The independent UK charity, Crimestoppers has a better internet presence and reporting facilities than the UK police or FSA
    Thanks for that information LRM. I will look into that and see if we can get them to do anything about the scams being promoted by British people on Adlandpro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by path2prosperity View Post
    I know that LRM but if British advertisers get scared and stop promoting these scams on Adlandpro, it is less revenue for the owner. The loss of revenue could force him to change his ways and ban the promoters or close down voluntarily.

    With all due respect Judy, the problem is not Adland or MMG or TG, etc but the programs themselves. Until the actual scams are stopped and promoters are prosecuted for promoting them, they will continue to pop up. The demise of ASA has not stopped them and the demise of Adland or MMG etc wont either. Until there is a legal reason for forum owners not to permit them, nothing will happen.

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    Is the EZ2Win scam mentioned by somebody replying to Partick Pretty yet another in this family of scams?

    BULLETIN: Corrupt MLMers Found Guilty Of Operating Pyramid Scheme And Stock Swindle; James A. Sweeney And Patrick M. Ryan Face Decades In Prison

    It would be nice to compile a list of all the variations which members here could remember. I have lost count but I can remember the main promoters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    The info posted here is not real favorable:

    EZ Wealth Solution | Rip-off Report: 521098
    The latest I have noticed, a person who has promoted this for a very long time (EZ Wealth Solution) has suddenly dropped it from their advertising. Could it be...

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    re: How legit is EZ Wealth Solution? Kathleen Vanbeekom Promoter

    Just received another one of these. I don't see why people would buy into this hype but they do. This is just for your information that the EZ Wealth thing is still going.

    **Want 100,000s of Fr*ee Ads & 4 Figures Daily?

    **Why are you letting others get YOUR $10,000 Monthly?

    Join up to Level 3 or higher & I'll help you advertise
    until you qualify to earn on the levels you joined, from
    $247 per sale up to $1,838 per sale if you join all 5
    levels.

    This business pays daily 100% commissions, up to $1,838
    per signup, and many members are earning over $1,000 per
    day, including me...just from posting ads online!

    I joined up to Level 3 at the end of June and was
    qualified up to Level 2 within a couple weeks, and then
    Level 3 about a couple weeks later, and then soon
    I was earning lots of $97's and $47's all thru July that
    added up to $2,600 so a lot of money came in before I
    qualified on Level 3. I upgraded to 4 & 5 as soon as I
    got qualified on Level 2 during the beginning of July,
    before I got any signups for Level 3. Then it took me
    about another month to qualify on 4 & 5 but I also earned
    around $5,000 in August just from 1, 2 & 3 income.
    I earned about $8,500 in September, and over $15,000 in
    October, and several thousands more in November, December
    and January, then I had a great February and March and
    a very good April. Nearly $60,000 now,
    since I got my first payment on July 7th (my first $97).

    I've had high income days of over $750 to nearly $4,000.
    Not every day, but many days.

    It's recommended to start at least with Levels 2 & 3,
    because you won't earn much from just being in Level 1.

    One daily referral of Levels 2 & 3 together would bring
    you over $125,500 within a year, and most of that can be
    passive income, brought in from the people under you.
    This is NOT MLM, you don't need a lot of people, just a
    few motivated members and your own motivation to post ads
    and follow up, that's all there is to it, and the ads are
    pre-written for you in the backoffice, not much thinking to do!

    For your $10 monthly you get 3 sites and you can also use
    the EZ Wealth Mailer to contact all your tour-takers and
    resellers, that's a great deal because later you'll have a
    lot of people, I have over 150 payliners earning lots of
    money for me and for themselves. My sponsor has been in
    for 2 years and has thousands of tour-takers and hundreds
    of resellers.
    EZ Wealth Solution - The # 1 Get Paid Today Program On The Net!
    Unlimited $47 Cash Payments - Personal Powerline
    EZ Wealth Solution - The # 1 Get Paid Today Program On The Net!

    I know I did quite a bit of research on this which I might have posted at the beginning. Still keeping check on it.

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    re: How legit is EZ Wealth Solution? Kathleen Vanbeekom Promoter

    EZWEALTHSOLUTION.COM WHOIS
    Updated: 1 second ago
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    Domain name: EZWEALTHSOLUTION.COM


    Administrative Contact:
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    Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
    Record last updated on 29-Mar-2011.
    Record expires on 09-Jun-2012.
    Record created on 09-Jun-2007.

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    Information Updated: Tue, 3 May 2011 14:34:37 UTC
    With this kind of money, this person should be very rich by now!!
    Here is the real-time payout, it was around $1,320,000
    when I joined a few months ago, now it's around
    $1,632,000. I earned $60,000 since last summer!
    Unlimited $47 Cash Payments - Personal PowerlineThanks if you sign up, this is the biggest easiest money
    I've ever earned, I'll send you a list of ad sources, and
    I also get lots of signups from Facebook.

    We're in the largest and highest earning team, my sponsor
    earned $102,000 in his first 7 months, and one of his
    other members earned $90,000 in her first year, so this is
    a realistic way to a 6-figure income within 6 to 12
    months, just from advertising.

    ==>> Join up to Level 3 or higher & I'll help you advertise
    until you qualify to earn on the levels you joined!

    I'll also send you dozens of free high-traffic sources
    so you can reach 100,000's of prospects DAILY!
    Ron Walsh owns these domains (probably more)

    ezwealthsolution.com
    personalpowerline.com
    traxad.com
    Ezwealthdrivein.com
    Ezwealthsolution.com
    Ezwealthtaxi.com

    There was a discussion thread at Complaints Board about this.

    last posting:
    EZ Wealth Solution is a text book scam or ponzi. The focus is on recruitment (big RED flag) and the product is software that is worthless and can be downloaded free online or for a few bucks. They have inflated the value of what you get, tell you that you get 100% of what you are selling, which is garbage - that is what you will be selling. Then you tell everyone you know about it, they say they will buy you into the first few levels, but then at some point you are asked for $1000 or more. Ron Walsh started this one of out of Nova Scotia Canada. Jim Carpenter is part of Ron Walsh's team of con artists. Beware of this one, its a ponzi sure as the nose on your face, with money moving up to the top, newcomers will get nothing. They claim they have paid out 1/2 million, can't wait for Industry Canada and the FTC to shut this one down.

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    re: How legit is EZ Wealth Solution? Kathleen Vanbeekom Promoter

    Lotto Magic: Longterm A rating with the Better Business Bureau. In business worldwide since 1996.
    I've been with it since January 2007 and I've earned 57 consecutive monthly checks since then,
    including sharing a big win in Florida Lotto in July 2009.
    spam url deleted by mod

    EZ Wealth Solution: In business worldwide since December 2007.
    I've been with it since June 2010 and have raked in high 5 figures, lots of bigwigs are in my downlines because I advertise heavily and gained the attention of people who also advertise heavily, hard work, team work, makes it happen.


    I'm a very strong promoter, I'm a serious marketer, lots of business owners and ad-source owners know my seriousness.
    I'm online daily, easy to find everywhere.
    I work very hard and help my downliners. My hard work speaks for itself. It's too bad that the majority of people want to bash other peoples hard work and actual success. Go get your own success because you can't take mine away.
    spam url deleted by mod

    Kathleen,

    you're quite welcome to post on
    REALSCAM.com but please refrain from including referral links in your posts.
    Last edited by littleroundman; 09-28-2011 at 04:00 AM.

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    I'd like all posts containing my name removed immediately, references to me as a "culprit"...of what? Working hard 7 days per week and leading huge teams to earn money? I AM wealthy by now, I was wealthy a year ago, and as far as the posters making fun of me for saying I'd help people advertise, the ad they copied & pasted here WAS an ad for helping another person, who's name was also mentioned. Anyone can Google my name and all my Youtube videos will show up, and recent videos of my actual commission report. The posts were made because of a personal dislike situation against me as a person, regardless of what businesses I promote. Those posts should be deleted because they are wrong and posted directly against me, wrongly. Obviously.

    As far as my URLs not being allowed to be posted, those are proof of Lotto Magic paychecks/winnings and my commission video from EZ. Longterm reliability in both of those, and in me as a person. I've also earned affiliate income from Adlandpro which I've been affiliated with for 13 & a half years, since that's where the posters copied my ad that they put here. Am I also a "culprit" in raking in longterm affiliate sales for Adlandpro and tons of other businesses? Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcvan
    I'd like all posts containing my name removed immediately, references to me as a "culprit"...of what?
    I'm sure you would like your name removed, but, it ain't gonna happen.

    Here's a little free tip for you, Kathleen.

    Your full real name is all over the internet.

    You long ago ceased to be anonymous.

    If you want to promote half assed internet frauds such as EZ Wealth Solutions on the internet, more power to you.

    If you consider being paid to sell unproven lotto software as "proof" of its' legitimacy, good upon you.

    You do NOT, however, get a free pass from a forum based on discussing internet based scams based on how many sucke.....err......members you have in your downline or how much loot you've escaped with.

    Facts, Kathleen facts are what you need.
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    Why don't you learn the ABC of marketing Katleen? Here is an extract from my blog.

    I am shocked by the lack of business acumen or common sense people display, when they talk about “Internet Marketing.” They do not seem to understand the basics of the subject.

    I learned my first marketing lesson in 1947 when I was told that clothes were a market but that pictures of naked human bodies were also a market. The fashion houses had just launched “The New Look” in the 1947 clothes market, when clothes were still on ration in UK. That was extremely clever marketing.

    My eighteen year old brother, who was a very talented artist missed a good chance to get his paintings into the naked body market. My brother could not afford a camera or a naked artists’ model in 1947. His preferred life models were pigs and his tools were oil on canvas not camera equipment. The schoolboy who beat by brother to a profitable niche market for nude females understood marketing. The boy painted or photographed naked females and made them into jig saw puzzles. THAT BOY WAS A MARKETER. He proved it because his products made him his first million pounds. That was a great deal of money in 1947. The boy knew that some people liked nude pictures. He knew that jig saw puzzles were reasonably easy to produce and he knew enough about technical drawing, carpentry/joinery or wood turning to design templates and assemble his new marketing tools. He knew how much people would pay for nude female jig saws. He had accumulated enough knowledge of adhesives to stick paper to cardboard or wood which suited his wide variety of templates.

    Markets come and go. The advent of page three nudes in the gutter press killed the nude female jigsaw market but it will come back in some form or other. I have been asked to start a jig saw workshop in our block of flats to amuse parents and children on long winter nights. One of the original nude jig saws would be a great acquisition for our group. A budding entrepreneur could try to find a market for porcine mothers nursing their young. Pigs make marvellous artists, models and a good picture of the touching sceene might encourage people to eat less pork and not consume suckling piglets. Sows will lie still for a very long time for any schoolboy or silly little girl who sees herself as a marketing guru. If you can afford a few gallons of beer go and find some sows and sell some pig portraits instead of whining to your lawyers.

    Suckling pigs are an animal's baby so do some good and sell a few pig portraits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcvan2011 View Post
    Lotto Magic: Longterm A rating with the Better Business Bureau.
    Actually their rating is A-, and they are not accredited.
    If you choose to believe that using this, or any Lotto "system" improves your chance of winning, have at it...! The reality is, however, that wheeling systems, number manipulations,and excluding "improbable" combinations really do not improve your chances of winning. A random draw is still a random draw, irregardless of how you pick and play your numbers. If you play 1 card in a 6/49 lotto, your chance of winning is 1 in 13,983,816, if you play 2, it is 2 in.... etc. etc...! To claim different is hype and BS.
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Lotto Magic does not sell lottery software, it's a benefits club, the video on the site explains it.
    BBB Accreditation is a PAID service, so any biz that's "accredited" just paid the BBB to be accredited,
    that doesn't mean anything, paying for the word "accredited" means nothing.

    I didn't ask for my name removed because I want to be anonymous, I asked my name removed because
    you refer to me as a "culprit" and your postings are wrong. What am I a culprit of, exactly? Working hard daily
    and earning money from longterm reliable programs that actually DO work?

    Also there are names of other people here, they do not deserve their names on a scam site,
    and the owner of Adland is probably not going to be thrilled about his place being called "corrupt"
    in a thread started by a member.

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    Laidback,

    With just 2 referrals in Lotto Magic, a member's lottery drawings are then "free" for that member, and the lottery winnings are shared within 5 levels, I was going to post my July 2009 commission report containing 122 downliners thru 5 levels, but I'm not allowed to post URLs here. When a ticket-holder has a winning ticket, that person wins 50% and the other half is divided 10% to the 5 people straight up. If anyone within 5 levels BELOW has a winning ticket, then we get 10% passed up if we're within 5 levels above. So with 122 people under me in the July 2009 report I was going to post, as a Power Captain, I had my own 9 monthly FL Lotto tickets AND 9 monthly Powerball tickets, and a month's worth of tickets being played from all those 122 people below me...FREE for ME, and I received $527 that month from a $5,270 winning ticket from someone 2 levels below me, that person got 50% and the the rest was divided 10% to me and also to 4 other people above him. I also get monthly recurring referral commissions...this has all been FREE for me since my first month because I brought in more than 2 people my first month so I've been raking in FREE MONTHLY COMMISSIONS and LOTTERY WINNINGS from TONS of tickets below me for 57 consecutive months since the beginning of 2007. It's a stunning system that's been worldwide for nearly 16 years and never duplicated. It's fantastic!

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    Watch your video Kathleen? Send your lawyer a copy of this and see what he she says.

    Some British World War II prisoners were held at gunpoint and forced to speak to their countrymen over the airwaves. The Gestapo needed English speakers to broadcast propaganda about the humane treatment of POWs by the Germans. On one memorable occasion several speakers assured British radio, that they were delighted with their treatment in Germany, that it could not be better. The final words were something like this.

    You can tell our story to the Army.


    You can tell the story to the Navy.


    You can tell our story to the Airforce


    AND “TELL IT TO THE MARINES.”


    There were not many Gestapo members who realized that “tell it to the marines,” was an English idiom, which means a “load of rubbish”. However most British people understood and the news spread like wildfire on the grapevine, far faster than it could have done, if the message had been sent by media transmissions alone.

    The same techniques are applied in the cyberspace world. Many of the best scam breakers reside in the enemy camps or forums. These people relay powerful messages to a large majority, who assume it means one thing and a minority, who get the true meaning from a few words. People in the scam busting world take no notice of idle threats, which can fool less experienced masses. Scam busters know that most online threats are nothing but “hot air” from the crooks and scammers themselves.

    Some of these con artists are very convincing. I watched a propaganda video about Club Asteria and the benefits of joining their global opportunity. It was presented by Andrea Lucas. Andrea Lucas is very well known online. She claims to have been a director of the World Bank. Was she? That is not what World Bank or most scam breakers will tell you.

    Club Asteria Propaganda Video

    What do most scam busters say about the video? I have absolutely no doubt about what I have to say and my views are not going to change. The comment is.

    TELL THAT TO THE MARINES ANDREA and YOU TOO KATHLEEN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcvan2011 View Post
    Laidback,

    With just 2 referrals in Lotto Magic, a member's lottery drawings are then "free" for that member, and the lottery winnings are shared within 5 levels, I was going to post my July 2009 commission report containing 122 downliners thru 5 levels, but I'm not allowed to post URLs here. When a ticket-holder has a winning ticket, that person wins 50% and the other half is divided 10% to the 5 people straight up. If anyone within 5 levels BELOW has a winning ticket, then we get 10% passed up if we're within 5 levels above. So with 122 people under me in the July 2009 report I was going to post, as a Power Captain, I had my own 9 monthly FL Lotto tickets AND 9 monthly Powerball tickets, and a month's worth of tickets being played from all those 122 people below me...FREE for ME, and I received $527 that month from a $5,270 winning ticket from someone 2 levels below me, that person got 50% and the the rest was divided 10% to me and also to 4 other people above him. I also get monthly recurring referral commissions...this has all been FREE for me since my first month because I brought in more than 2 people my first month so I've been raking in FREE MONTHLY COMMISSIONS and LOTTERY WINNINGS from TONS of tickets below me for 57 consecutive months since the beginning of 2007. It's a stunning system that's been worldwide for nearly 16 years and never duplicated. It's fantastic!
    My mistake, this isn't a legitimate software business, this is a money/ponzi/pyramid/matrix game...! Without winnings it becomes a situation where the money from downlines is paying the "profits"
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    re: How legit is EZ Wealth Solution? Kathleen Vanbeekom Promoter

    Wrong again. Lotto Magic also has 2 joining options that are NOT part of a downline situation, just for people who want the benefits of membership, such as lottery tickets and discounts on travel/hotels, etc.

    Any business that offers joining options just for the products/service and not for the referral commissions is NOT considered a ponzi.

    If it wasn't legal, it wouldn't be around for 16 years.

    This business started way back in 1996 in mail-order and didn't even go online until 6 years ago, nearly the entire first decade in business was an offline business and thousands of people joined, just from seeing ads for it in printed publications. Lotto Magic has dominated the mail-order industry for 16 years, lots of mail-order publishers have been members since the very beginning, and they've seen everything, and they knew this was great is STILL IS GREAT, and there's nothing like it anywhere in the world. It's fantastic!

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    re: How legit is EZ Wealth Solution? Kathleen Vanbeekom Promoter

    Team Player and Power Player, those are the other 2 joining options that only get the benefits, and not any MLM commissions. There are lots of Team Players and Power Players. This is a legitimate business, always has been, always will be, I trust the administration completely, I can say that it ALWAYS WILL BE, with absolute certainty in the integrity of the administration.

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    re: How legit is EZ Wealth Solution? Kathleen Vanbeekom Promoter

    If you people don't know that "accredited" by the BBB can be paid for by anyone, and it means nothing but so-called accredited companies shelled out money to pay for the word just so unknowledgeable people think it means something...

    and if you don't know that non-referral-based options make something NOT a ponzi...

    then what are you doing here?

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    Paid to be "accredited" actually makes me think the BBB means nothing, how could it mean anything if people can PAY to be "accredited" just to make consumers think they're above other companies that are not accredited? Maybe the Better Business Bureau should be your next target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcvan2011 View Post
    Also there are names of other people here, they do not deserve their names on a scam site,
    and the owner of Adland is probably not going to be thrilled about his place being called "corrupt"
    in a thread started by a member.
    If Bogdan Fiedur does not like his name on a scam site, why doesn't he PAY RESEARCHERS to police it? I thought that he was supposed to be a multimillionaire.

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    re: How legit is EZ Wealth Solution? Kathleen Vanbeekom Promoter

    This entire thread should not even exist, an ad I paid for to be sent to 6,000 members of Adlandpro was copied & pasted here in portions, an ad that I PAID FOR to HELP one of my members, not even for myself, I PAID for an ad for another person, just like I say I do...and I got called a "culprit" for doing well in business(es) that are absolutely paying out just like they say they will and have been for years worldwide. This has been here for months and I just found it yesterday. There's no reason for this thread to have been started at all. Then I find out that you people don't even know what you're talking about. You wonder why and how I earn so much? Because I obviously understand MLM's and the BBB more than some of you do. I explain things well, in a way that people understand it, that's how and why I'm successful. I do all that every day, I've been doing it for years and years and years, and I'll continue for many more years.

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