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    WOW !!!!!

    Just in time.

    Who wouldn't be excited to wake up and find one of these in their stocking on Christmas morning ??


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    As hard as it may be to believe, there are Achieve Community members out there who really do believe this Achieve Community Terms of Service document actually means something.



    Can you imagine the trouble they would be in if Troy or Kristi fronted a court trying to enforce this pile of nonsense
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    A couple of very interesting and telling posts at MMG if they are true. Here is what was posted:

    Post #1:


    "The reason for the delayed payments is that Troy has some very big bills to pay. Troy will try to pay as many people as possible with the funds that are available. This info came my way by some friends that are very close to Troy. I have no additional details to share."

    Post #2:

    "The only thing that I will add is that this money was needed for a family emergency and that is why it was taken out from the program. I will not comment any further as it is not my place to discuss this situation. I do hope that things work out well for Troy's family."

    If this story is true, I do wish his family the best, and Troy just committed a major felony. Guess he thinks that The Achieve Community funds are his personal checking account. I also seemed to have missed this part in the TOS of Achieve allowing Troy, or Kristi for that matter, to do this. But Troy and Kristi are "honest" admins.

    The real reason why the payments are delayed is they can't find a payment processor to handle their transactions, which is truly shocking with so many who turn a blind eye to programs that are Ponzi's and offer their services.

    But now they have competition from Xtremeprosystems. Their matrix only allows $45 to turn into $300. Pikers! The poor admin of Xtremeprosystems worked so hard he had to take the weekend off to recuperate, and after just 1 week is already having maintenance and system issues. Too funny, but he is honest as the day is long. And of course we have the obligatory posts of: This cycled so fast and I got my first $400, and of course our genius investor who has a plan to take a one-time $45 investment and turn it into $1 Million in less than a year in this.
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    No surprises in Kristis' November 24 update.

    Still no payments and even more delays:

    Hello Achieve Community!

    I was hoping I would have a start date for you today! Our processors are still working on it though and still don’t have a date for us.

    From my experience doing this, it doesn’t look like there are any problems (that I would hear about), just taking them longer than they originally thought….which is normal also!

    There are a lot more details involved with our program than most people see or hear about, and everything is moving along just fine, so no worries.

    Meantime, we are getting the banners done and the new forum done and the time frame for those are 7-10 days.

    I’m so excited to see us moving our matrix and paying people again. It’s such a good program and makes a difference for so many people! Keep sharing those dreams you all have, they are coming true soon.

    I’ll continue to keep you all up to date, and wish it was ready now and know you do too…. but we just have to wait on them to be ready too.

    Until tomorrow, thank you all for taking care of each other.

    Soon!

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    a--a--n--d still no payments,



    Kristis' latest nonsense

    Looks like baked beans are on the menu for Christmas lunch for a lot of the Achieve Community members
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    Hee's Kristi's latest update:

    Hello Achieve Community!
    You all did it! We have our processor! We will be starting up again!
    And of course I have more information to share with you about this whole process.
    The reason we aren't telling you who our processor is, is this.
    1. When you sign up with them from your Achieve back office you automatically sign up with your account attached to us so that we can pay you.
    2. It takes time for you to get approved with a payment processor. They need to know you are who you say you are - it's online processing, they can't see you, they don't get your signature, so they check your information.
    3. If you go sign up with them on your own, you have to wait to be approved before you can attach your account to us in your back office and then you have to go through the process again to attach your account so we can pay you.
    We ran into this problem with Payoneer when we started. What happened was this, people went and signed up with Payoneer and then didn't get approval or their cards for 2-4 weeks and couldn't attach their accounts to us to get paid. When they finally got their accounts approved, or their cards, it took more time to have their accounts approved again and attached to us. Most people were fine, but some went through the matrix before they had their accounts and had to wait to get paid until they were approved and attached to us.
    Just doesn't work.
    Here's what does work.
    1. We don't tell you who it is until they are programmed into our system.
    2. You go into your back office and sign up with them through our system and get approved.
    3. You get paid.
    When you go into your back office to sign up with the new processor (and everyone will need to do this - don't worry, they can handle it) - you will see the payment options. It's different for every country, so you will just have to make your own choices when you see what is available to you. Usually you will have an option for bank transfer, debit card, wire transfer, or there may be a few other options. It won't be the same for everyone everywhere. We can't tell you what your options will be - just wait until you can sign up please, and see what is offered to you.
    More information about the banners. Some of you seem to think that we needed the Banners to get approval, that is not true, it wasn't required, and as I said in an earlier update, we always have added new products every month. What we do want for our processors and for our program is to show, into the future, that people are using our products, and banners are an easy way to do that - we can easily see that you are using our products every time you make a banner. So when that is ready, make banners! That will keep our processors happy.
    Now about the timing. Here is the choice we have. And I would like you to comment on whatever platform you are reading this from - the blog or the Facebook page you found it on.
    Since we won't have the coding for the Payout Processor until the end of the week, our programmer won't be able to attach it and test it until next week.
    We could
    1. Start up in a few days allowing new members to sign up and current members to repurchase and then everyone could sign up for the processor next week.
    Or
    2. We could wait until everything is done and then start up.
    Tell me Achieve Members, what would you like us to do?
    Thank you all.
    To your success
    Kristi

    Speculation is the new payment processor is I-payout, but can't wait to hear who it is. This is going to be fun to watch crash and burn before Christmas when all the excuses start about why members can't be paid.
    Last edited by EagleOne; 11-25-2014 at 10:16 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Speculation is the new payment processor is I-payout, but can't wait to hear who it is. This is going to be fun to watch crash and burn before Christmas when all the excuses start about why members can't be paid.

    Indeed. The payment processor will take longer than expected to set up but this is normal.

    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    ... When you sign up with them from your Achieve back office you automatically sign up with your account attached to us so that we can pay you ...
    ... If you go sign up with them on your own, you have to wait to be approved ...
    ... You go into your back office and sign up with them through our system ...
    1. We don't tell you who it is until they are programmed into our system.
    2. You go into your back office and sign up with them through our system and get approved.
    3. You get paid.
    Translation: "Donations to us have dried up, so we're going to collect referral fees from a processor"

    SD

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    Here's Kristi's latest update that has all the members at MMG giddy with excitement and anticipation:

    Hello Achieve Community!
    I saw your votes and know that the majority of you want to start up as soon as possible! Thank you all for letting me know you are ready to go, and to those of you who wanted to wait, you can join when the processor is done, that's fine too. So everybody wins.

    It may seem like this has taken a long time, but the reality is this - we can't remove Payoneer from our back offices until next Monday night so that everyone who was paid and has an account with them can finish taking their funds out. So we actually got the new processor too early for us to attach it! That's good news.

    As you all know, I'll only do what works absolutely best for our community, and having Payoneer on our site when new members sign up may be a bit too confusing. We also will be making some changes to the sign up procedures (including repurchases) for integration and extra security. For those reasons I've decided that we will start up Tuesday. We should have our payout processors attached within a week or so from that start up date.

    So, we are starting up without our payout processor and you will have to go back into your back office to attach them when that is ready, or you can wait until that's done and sign up or repurchase then. Your choice. But we will be ready for those of you who want to start up early on Tuesday. We will be able to accommodate all of you either way.

    Monday I will be doing updates that will explain everything you need to know about signing up with us, repurchasing and how our start up will work, etc. so please read Monday's updates and hold your questions until then. You will have all the information you need before we begin Tuesday.

    Thank you all again for your participation - it's going to be an amazing week coming up!
    Enjoy your weekend.
    To your success

    Kristi
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    One wonders how many members of the Achieve Community requested withdrawals in anticipation of spending up big at the Black Friday sales and whether or not it is coincidental Achieve ran out of money and stopped payments just before Black Friday
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    Previous updates said that payments would not start for two weeks after the re-start. My bet is that they will put a cap on how much you can withdraw from the program. They can't have a huge cash drain upon startup or this will collapse before it gets started again.

    It is going to be fun to watch this unfold next week, and there are going to be a lot of unhappy members when all the details come out. But then this is not a Ponzi! I know because Troy and Kristi assured all the members they weren't. And we all know that Troy and Kristi would never lie about something like this since they are honest people. (cough, cough)
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    And we all know that Troy and Kristi would never lie about something like this since they are honest CHRISTIAN people. (cough, cough)
    Just in case anyone forgets the depths to which fraudsters like Troy and Kristi will sink to separate victims from their hard earned.
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    Any more excited and this guy would fall asleep.
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    Next time you're sitting waiting in your car outside Walmart, keep an eagle eye out in case for one of your friendly neighbourhood HYIP ponzi fraudsters happens by:

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    Hands up anyone who can find where Kristi tells the Achieve Community members they are going to be paid today.







    Don't bother,

    Only kiddin'


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    SNIFFLE, SOB,

    I'm sorry for sob, sob, doubting you

    choke, splutter, I'll never doubt you again

    You've convinced me with your wipe, video

    I b--e--l--i--e--v--e, sob, sniffle, sniffle I b--e--l--i--e--v--e,


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    So, allegedly they haven't 'Achieved' a processor to pay out.
    Again the question has to be asked with this scam, why can't the processor that's taking money in also pay out? And why take any money in when you know you can't pay out?(rhetorical)

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    SNIFFLE, SOB,

    I'm sorry for sob, sob, doubting you

    choke, splutter, I'll never doubt you again

    You've convinced me with your wipe, video

    I b--e--l--i--e--v--e, sob, sniffle, sniffle I b--e--l--i--e--v--e,


    Absolutely ridiculous video!

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    I guess Troy and Kristi haven't heard of sending them a check or bank wire. But that would mean they would have to part with money which they aren't going to do. The sad part is that there will be legions sending them money for more matrix positions thinking the payment processor will happen soon.

    I am anticipating they will announce there has been a glitch with the new payment processor that is going to delay payments for a little while longer (like the rest of December), but of course you will still be able to buy new matrix positions. Then sometime in January they will announce they could not work out the details for the payment processor to work properly and they are back to finding a new one; or they will just shut down.

    But if the story is true, Kristi was able to get enough money out without a payment processor to buy a new car. Right about now Troy and Kristi are thinking how lucky they were that so many people believed all their happy BS and that TAC was real, while laughing all the way to the bank.
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    The latest from Kristi:

    Hello Achieve Community!

    In a few hours we will begin taking new members again and current members will be able to repurchase.
    Please note that the payment form has changed. Please be sure to read the form carefully and fill out everything asked for correctly through each page of the process. You will have to add your CVV code twice - this is a security measure.

    You will need to have a MasterCard or Visa debit or credit card to purchase from us, so have that ready too please.
    *** Go all the way through the sign up procedure until there are no more buttons to select and you see Approved across the top of the page ***
    Achieve will only be taking purchases for now - the payout processor will be added later, and members will be notified when it is time to sign up for that, so for now you will only be purchasing.
    There are also new, temporary, limits to our program. This means we have processors that will grow with us and stay with us. It also means you will need to figure out your purchase plans again.
    For the next month you will be limited to two purchases of up to 20 positions each transaction, per day. Five purchases per week. Eight purchases per month.

    The maximum purchase will be 20 positions. You can purchase between 1 and 20 positions. You can purchase twice in one 24 hour period. You can purchase 5 times each week up to 8 times in the month.
    So, to plan your strategy, you want to consider how many positions you want in the next month, and how many to purchase at one time to reach your goal, with a maximum of 8 purchases over the month.
    If you want the most allowed, as an example, 160 positions, you would make 8 purchases of 20 positions each, spread out over the next month. If you want 80 positions you can do 4 purchases of 20 positions or 8 purchases of 10 positions each. And so on. It's very simple math if you start with your monthly purchase amount.
    These are temporary limits so that we can continue to grow without any more downtime. As they change I will update you.

    Achieve will also have some daily limits for the next month.
    Any time you, or Achieve, reach a limit, your purchase will simply be declined. That's all that will happen. Wait until the next day to try again and you will be fine.
    I believe that we will see our limits expand quite quickly, as we have a solid community of people who know that this is a Lifetime Income Plan and want to stay with the program and see their dreams come true! And our processors are ready to support us as we grow.

    I do sort of wish we hadn't scared the processors off with our tremendous growth so that we could still be limitless right now, you all know that, but then again, what a problem to have right? And now we have the opportunity to make this truly last for your lifetime's. So let's make Achieve the best program ever once again.
    Thank you all for everything kind thing you have done and said throughout this process.

    To your success
    Kristi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristi
    You will need to have a MasterCard or Visa debit or credit card to purchase from us,

    You will have to add your CVV code twice

    Achieve will only be taking purchases for now
    Anyone who purchases from Achieve using this method might as well empty their bank account and sign away the rest of their life.

    They have just given complete strangers access to their credit card and personal details through an insecure site
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    passport should be next.

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    Just keeps getting funnier and funnier,

    every day a new excuse, yet STILL no payments

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    WOOHOO, the announcements are coming thick and fast,

    unfortunately, the B/S is still flowing like the Hudson River in winter.

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    Their new payment processor is iPayDNA.biz out of Malaysia. Now what is truly funny is what the payment processor states in their TOS:

    I understand and agree to not process this payment unless I agree to the terms set forth. All payments are final and no chargebacks and refunds are allowed. Any attempt to CHARGEBACK is considered as Fraud, and is subject to legal criminal action. Please note that credit card fraud is a very serious crime. Your IP address as well as other information about you is collected on this website using technology to track your physical address and other pertinent information to safe guard against fraud. In the event of fraud this information will be used to contact law enforcement authorities in your country, state and city to prosecute at the fullest extent allowed by law. By processing this payment you confirm that you have read the above and understand and agree.

    Can you see this payment processor going into court trying to enforce this BS? Too
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